Don't know if you will see this Jumbo, but I just realized something very useful: the special province upgrades that are unlocked by culture or tomes, like the Mob Camp from the Horde Tome, not only count as a forester or a mine or whatever, but can also be built where those province upgrade couldn't normally be built, meaning if your city is lacking that tile in it's domain, you can use those special structures to force the boost.
Won my first game, the tutorial realm, as Sauron the Dark One and had him Ascend to my Pantheon. Won a Turn 40 victory in Valley of Wonders as Human Constructors who turned Angelic. My leader also Ascended and joined Yaka who i defeated in battle. Having a blast.
I really like popping out an additional *2* scouts immediately at the start of the game. It's so easy to zip around, collecting as many magic materials as possible, while also getting a lay of the land so you can formulate your plan
@@peterknutsen3070 Well it's easy to see where you haven't prospected but not so easy to see where you have. Places you haven't been to are highlighted when you select a prospector unit. Otherwise the territory looks normal. It'd be nice if they could do something to make it more obvious either way.
I would just like to add: to repair an province improvement that has been pillaged, just left click on it. It costs some gold and takes 3 turns. This process is not tied to the cities production que. Also: you can change what improvement is in a given province. Just click on it then click on the swirly arrow icon in the box that pops up. If any other improvements are appropriate for that province, they will appear in the drop down menu that opens. Then, it just takes gold & time. I didn't figure any of this out until 60 turns into my 2nd game.... That said - I am loving this game!. I especially like that unlike similar games, you don't have to worry about retro fitting existing units. So, so much. I also like that there is a great deal of malleability through unit and race enchantments throughout the game - even if you have preferred leader/race combo - it can play out very differently depending on the realm you're in, your start location, your goals.... Endless variety. Loads of fun.
One other tip worth noting: Outpost territory counts for gaining access to magic materials and the province bonuses of wonders. If you're at your city limit, you can just plop one down by a cleared magic material or cleared wonder to start getting the bonuses for it as soon as the outpost completes. Outpost territory also counts as friendly for healing, so you can even drop one down just to have a fast healing zone outside your territory. With the first materium empire skill, it only takes a single turn to set an outpost up.
Does it count for resources do you know like say mana or research do you get that income also? Some of the stuff I’m confused on like say it provides production is that the only one that doesn’t actually provide the income if it’s only attached to an outpost or does it go to your nearest city? :)
@@danielsgamerprofile4067 It will give you mana, gold, knowledge, and imperium (for wonders). Food, production, and draft won't do anything for an outpost.
@@Mechalibur gotcha that’s kind of what I figured 😌 just wasn’t certain I used outposts to grab some wonders I done that had resources like food and production which I figured would do nothing for me but I wanted that imperium income 😂🤷♂️
@@danielsgamerprofile4067 Even if a wonder just gives things like production or food, it's still a good idea to annex it. The +5 Imperium is always nice, and the special province bonuses and extra rally options still take effect!
Just a thing I noticed, we dont need to build a crypt nor a prison in order to be able to sell heroes. Those buildings just give us bonus resources for keeping those heroes in the prison/crypt
Yeah, it feels like there are so many layers to things that some nuances can slip through the cracks. Learning what to do and what doesn't HAVE to be done can change a lot of strategy and save time/resources.
How do you put enemy heroes in the prison? Only ever killed them in battle. Oh, y.if you invest in Shadow Affinity/Necromancy you can reanimate your heroes and enemy ones.
@@amethystwyvern It appears to be fairly random, but if a hero flees a battle, there's a chance that hero will either die, be captured, or return to your throne city after a set amount of time. Otherwise, it's a dice roll as to what happens with Opfor heroes. I just usually hold onto them for the benefits unless they have gear I could use for my heroes.
If you suck at this game, start a custom with only 2 members and dial the advanced choices down (not passive though) you'll start to form you style and get an understanding naturally each playthrough, thats how I'm learning.
7:26 You NEED to build cities. It's great to hear you saying this, as it was my biggest mistake as a noob. I'm just very surprised you said that on the section of planning ahead and where to place them, but you failed to mention the usage of the economic map mode to make better decisions in that regard and not end up with a second city that can't build a farm until it does 4 hops because you tunnel-visioned into securing that ancient wonder or whatever, not realizing the terrain modifiers.
Unless you are going for Artisan Perfectionists or Chosen Destroyers traits. Even then, you eventually want to have additional cities once you increase the cap.
My biggest tip to new players? Never stop making units. Its turn 25 and you're feeling good about your two stacks? well the AI has 8. Dont question it, they simply do.
How do you have the economy to have more than 2 stacks at turn 25 😂😅 (I thought about it and is the key to use more low tier units and avoid high upkeep ones until later?)
@@danielsgamerprofile4067 How do you not? If you arent using your armies to invade, you should be using it to break open wonders or farm infestations for gear. If at any point you ahve an army just sitting in a city, you are playing the game wrong Protip: Barbarian scouts can create outposts. Run them into a cave, create an outpost. Make a city, release it as a vassal. Do this often
Thanks for all these videos. Won my first game last night via Magic Victory or whatever it's called, and it was after a few losses about half way through due to just being unable to expand, build, or do anything in any amount of time. I had a tiny army and one loss crippled me to death. I had poor upkeep and such. That said, building my final item to trigger the 15 turns till I win thing where every single thing on the map immediately went "KILL THE RATS" was terrifying... luckily I was on easy and despite them all hating me... well they never attacked. The spawning Invaders were the only thing I had to deal with and I had such and advanced army by then that they didn't stand a chance. I can't stress how dangerous Death by Upkeep, as you put it, has been. My first few games all fell into the same problem. I never had gold, magic, or Imperium. I may have had 1, but not the other 2. I dunno if it's just me, but if I had to make any suggestions on what to look at for your first game, try focusing on the... I will fail to remember the name. Builder? Architect? Affinity. Orange kite looking shape, focuses on your infrastructure. Will give you a good intro in how to get to boosted, how to build etc... This may just be a personal thing though of course. It works for me, I still struggle with the others.
If you built the wrong tile improvements and don't have a boost, you can select your tile improvements and switch them to a different type. It's completely free, and always takes three turns. If you plan ahead, you can always have enough 2-3 farms/foresters/quarries for unlocks and boost, despite not having enough tiles to have all those buildings at the same time. Also useful for switching your economy off of food and onto mana/research/gold once your city is at a comfortable size. You can delete Guild improvements. Select city, gear, menu, buildings. You can delete anything you don't want. Buildings cost no upkeep, so guild buildings are the only ones worth deleting.
1:46 it's curious how you understand that each set of materials is themed, but you didn't mention that they're tailored towards the victory conditions. I mean; they're color-coded the same as them. It's a nice mid-game incentive to think that you're working towards your wincon by acquiring the relevant mats for the one you want. Or have you push one or the other depending on what mats you can secure.
It is worth noting that the boost serves as a discount on purchasing the structure. So the province improvements which provide the boost should be selected BEFORE the structure finishes building so you are refunded the discount. Better would be to have the structure boosted before starting its construction in the first place so the cost is reduced immediately when you start production.
Here’s a tip, there is no limit to summoned units…in tactical battles. Any skill, spell, item, or ability that adds a unit can be amazingly broken by giving you free and expendable units over the 18 unit cap for armies you bring.
@@JumboPixel I think if I were Triumph, it would be the first thing I put a hard cap on. I played a Druid Frogman game, and by mid-game I was already drowning the AI in tactical summon animals. It can snowball pretty fast.
A few map generation tips: Low threat plus emerging infestations trait is a good synergy for a better early game that will still throw big monsters at you later. Far distance really spreads out factions (with 6+ this creates a giant map). It feels like the ai has a better time with maps that use deserts etc. instead of water. I haven't really seen them use ships yet (which is prob good since the auto resolve loves killing ship stacks that dominate in manual battle).
Oh I also use the level up city states option so they are still strong even at low threat. This also gives more of them specialty traits that provide great magic units in the rally tab.
Ships arent as useful since units basically work the exact same as them from what ive gathered...my few combats on water were the exact same as land but with no obstacles.
thats 100% the games fault. there should be a tooltip when you hover over your city number in the UI to tell you how to expand it. I had to google it myself to find out about it.
@Hogans Hairline OK I know about the repeatable general skill Expanded Governance that allows you to increase your city cap for increasing amounts of influence. I've loaded up a game where I have almost everything unlocked (because I used cheats so I could see what a whole bunch of end game stuff was actually like) but I can't find anything about expanding or improving sectors (beyond the base and special improvements from culture and research). Are we talking about Attract Population to grow your city by 1 population (or am I just completely missing something. I've checked the province improvements themselves and the city expanded info from the cog next too population and can't find anything)
@Hogans Hairline I'm sorry. I feel like that sounds rude, and that's not what I intended. I'm genuinely asking because I'd love to learn more about the game
I want to add a good trick that my 14 year old nephew immediately noticed. As you gain items and sell remains you will inevitably gain lots of default mounts and low tier goodies. You can sell those to other players. If they don't hate you, they will pay good money or mana for it. Or you can just gift it for relation boost. So you don't only get the minimal amount of gold from selling remains. You can make a fortune with those. It's almost always better than letting the dead heroes sit in crypt and maybe gain some knowledge from them once you build graveyard.
Can't wait to see what Triumph adds in the coming months with balance passes and system improvement based on player feedback. Then each expansion. One thing I'm hoping for is the return of the Alignment based classes in some form. AoW 3 (with the expansions) had more for each alignment, including my favorite: Greyguard, the Neutral alignment. It focused on economy and upping critical hit chances, and made for some interesting and unpredictable play as you had to balance out good and evil actions to maintain neutrality. Was a little easier to do though as neutral was between -200 and +200 evil/good point. So hopefully they expand this.
@@arcanumelite4853 yep, definitely a first for the series, Draconian race was the closest we could get before. Now lizard form with draconian transformation will recreate that but it still doesn't compare to being able to start as an actual dragon. Going to make for some really fun realm runs.
The High culture is alignment-based. If you're good, you get stability, evil gets something I forgot, and neutral gets a bigass production/food bonus in each city per stability tier.
@@ThatsJStorm once the dragon dlc comes out you can make your ruler a dragon... not a dragon-human/whatever hybrid.. an actual full on full size dragon... but you cant use weapons and such anymore (cus dragon) lizardpeople will also be coming in this expansion as well as a draconic racial transform... but the most exciting thing is the dragon ruler.
Loving the AOW4 content - good job. I know you touched on the expansion victory, but a video surrounding the victories and tips for each would be good, if you haven't done something like that already.
10:11 So the “boost trifecta” to cover a lot of the bases, is Farm, Forrester, Quarry, and presumably in that order, so as to get the Food income early to grow the city faster. From Quill18’s Mountain Sprouts videos, I’ve gotten the impression that the most valuable currencies are Imperium, Gold and Food. He also says Mana, but as far as I can see, that depends on how magic-heavy your “build” and playstyle is. And then there’s some adjacency bonus stuff, but that’s really hard to get a feel for from watching videos.
I would have mentioned about going over your city limit. I did this by absorbing vassels, I had I think 2 or 3 cities over my limit and my economy tanked so I had to re-release them as vessels.
Slight correction, you still collect remains and jail heroes even without the corresponding upgrades, it's just that you don't get mana and knowledge, and can't convert jailed heroes.
Would be great to get a guide on what to build or how many troops we should be creating. I struggle with balancing building new structures or units, since obviously gold and mana are limited in a sense. Feel like at one point in the campaign the AI has double my army even though my troops are better and I’m winning mostly all the fights. But I get overrun or my troops slowly get chipped away at and die eventually.
You may already know this but Ai will generally always have more army then you because they get resource cheats because they are not as smart as humans. But you are correct, I recently just started to learn how to get aggressive and find a balance between building the right amount of units that won't tank my economy. The good thing about this game is building units doesn't take a production slot of buildings which is another thing I love about this game compared to past iterations.
For the life of my I still can't figure out how to see the upkeep of units in a specific army, or what that army's total upkeep is. The only tools I have is my total overall upkeep, and I can see that stat in the individual units in the production menu.
Go to the armies tab at the top left. Right clicking on all your units also tells you by the top right next to their titles and simple math gives you a decent idea
I've only played two games so I could be wrong, but in my second game, I delayed founding second and third cities a looong time, just to see how the game played out. The whole time, my hero cap was 1/1. Around turn 90 I founded two cities in the same turn, and then my hero cap went to 1/3 and I could finally animate and convert 2 more heroes from my crypt/prison. And this part is a little fuzzier in my memory, but when I defeated and converted a city and now had a 4th city (my city cap was 4/3), my hero cap also went up to 3/4. Only thing is I can't remember if hero cap went up as soon as I converted that 4th city, or if it didn't increase until I increased my city cap to 4/4. Tl;dr: hero cap is not equal to your city cap, it's equal to the number of cities you control.
Worst thing for me was being resource blocked at mid-late game and having all my troops abandon me except for the heros. Literally couldn't do anything each turn...
I think it should be pointed out that just outright always selling the remains is not really that good strategy... like if you are playing more of a warlike campaign where you take territories left and right and raze cities its not like you need that extra couple hundred gold, and you might much more prefer the extra mana income that you get for having loads of corpses in your crypt. (especially if you are shadow faction becasue if I recall correctly they get a bunch of tech that increases their gains from crypt and prison) Just sell all the ones that have too good gear to pass on. Late game most over 10 level heroes have incredibly good gear on them so it becomes harder to pass on them.
so I am not sure how the AI handles it. but wouldn't forgiving grievances increase the grievance into the enemy's favor, thus making it easier for them to declare war on you? instead of making peace?
I got confused in this part as well. But I believe what he meant is that you should get rid of the grievances you generated to prevent the opponent from declaring war to you, and that you should also sell or forgive the grievances you have from them, since you are not planning to go to war with them anyway (you have no use for them, so it's better to take the gold or alignment bonus)
I typically do it the moment I've found out where my starter vassal is located, so I can wiggle that city into the opposite direction and snag whatever resources my main city will not have access to.
Bought a melee hero that I would like to make magic focused with a respec but the only weapon choice is sword and board. Surely the basic weapon types for each hero archetype are available and I'm just daft, right?
You'll have to find them and equip the other weapons on said hero. If you have defeated heroes In the prison/crypt, selling them off could get you these weapons real easy. Otherwise rng luck on loot.
You didn't explain *HOW* to get magic materials outside of vassals and specific quests. Do you just need to clear out any occupying army that is squatting on one of the resources? Or do you need to actually control the province with that resource in it as well?
@@7F0X7 you getting offended over the use of "duh" and I am the one that needs to grow up? you asked a question that is answered by simple logic. Think more and get some thicker skin
Speaking of heroes is there a way to disband one of them? I went over the cap ( I know big mistake) So I just walked that said hero into a battle alone and it died but I was unable to find the disband function
I’ve never disbanded heroes but to disband a unit you open up their inspection menu and there is a red icon at the top right, near where it shows their unit type icons (ie. cavalry horse shoe)
Can i have a question ? When we create physical traits & mind traits for own factoon, our summon units or units from tomes will be inherited the traits or not ?
Does anyone know how to recruit heroes on PS5? I've only been able to do it when the game prompts me. Haven't figured out how to find it without the prompt
If I'm not mistaken, your heroes are tied with your cities. Every time you build a new city, you get a new hero. So if you want more heroes, build up your city cap and build cities for the heroes to come into play.
I use an Xbox so I forget the PS shapes, but press Y (top button) to open the radial menu, choose the upper right magnifying glass to a submenu, and choose the helmet icon. There ought to be a ‘Recruit Hero’ button at the bottom of the hero overview menu.
Aside from specific traits that give bonuses based on alignment, evil basically gives you an advantage in tempo. Instead of waiting on good relations with a city state to vassalize them, you conquer them now. Instead of waiting for grievances to build to start a justified war, you invade the moment it is convenient.
Can we all agree the auto combat mode is trash ? I constantly have + 700 on other stacks so for argument sake it’s 3400 vs 4100 and I’ll loose I hit retry and do it myself and I’ll steamroll them . Can anyone explain ?
@@secretname2670 yet the AI you face is generally tactical with a strength of 1400 + per army ; so that’s my point now I’ve seen my army prevail in certain circumstances where I thought even I would loose , sure . But that doesn’t negate the fact 8/10 times your right it just lines everyone up in a straight line and tries to win that’s not responsive and adaptive ,that’s just lazy programming IMO 🤷🏼♂️
@@magnificojuandissimo6010 well, the AI does not use spells unless it has 200% net benefit and it does not see difference between a bad and a good position in the grand scheme, only good terrain and bad terrain. I've found immense success with auto resolve as a culture of Mystic Goblins led by an Astral Dragon because all mystic spells are very powerful and incentivize the AI to use them almost as if it was an actual player, but in reality the AI is really dumb. Learn to abuse and use that to your advantage. I've won many battles against a much statistically stronger opponent just because the AI cannot understand combos and marginal utility gain. It operates best with passive abilities, because these do not require comboing.
Who plays with diplomacy? It requires no skill to kill any single AI. Set up teams and go fot carnage so the AIs had some chances. Hero in Crypt if it's from independent city can be sold for good price if there will be the event of the city asking you to do so, but till you encounter such an event you will not know that this's possible. Sometimes it may be good idea to sell them not for money but for important item. Planning for speciefic victory is rather pointless just because no matter what you plan but there're good chances that AI with it's additional resources will outrun you. You always should play agressively only that way you can be ahead of everybody by cutting out their resourses. Upkeep is a problem but it only force the player to run for some speciefic technologies which reduce upkeep, give money and etc. It's just a thing everybody will meet playing for the 1st time especially with AoW 3 experience where money usually is not a problem on random map for long time.
the game dont have much variaties of items for the heroes also items are not so rare in this game you get them by the dozens, heroes dont feel so Unique's is a OK game but it seems the game is base for the combat only and most of the combat you can win them automated if not all, I got bored after 20 hours playing the game, this game got me craving AOW1.
Yeah, the game is heavily skewed towards combat, and the combat is way too bloated with tons of unnecessary complexity with a lot of modifiers, attack types and parmetres on every unit, in my opinion. Focus on the combat also makes playstyles not focused on military less interesting. Battles being complex and taking at least multiple minutes each make multiplayer practically impossible. I wish it has the combat of Humankind.
why is everyone saying this game is good? it's actual trash compared to AoW2. no special racial units, every race literally feels the exact same. AoW2 had 15 races with completely different units. The ingame music is uninspired dog shit compared to AoW2, too. Also, why do the buildings/towns look exactly the same for every nation? that's so fucking lazy, in AoW2 every nation had their own, thematic art for buildings... AoW4 is just extremely lackluster in so many aspects compared to its ancestor AoW2
just left click on the unit in the army display at the bottom of the screen with the army selected to select the unit individually. Then you can tell it to move out from the army it is in, provided it still has movement points. Best done at the start of the turn before you tell the army to move. You can't split armies on the same exact tile. Only one army per tile.
Set 1v1 close, choose kruul the default barbarian rat champion. Learn spawnkin and basically rush the other faction and easily wipe them by turn 15. Easy 500 pantheon exp in case you're rushing for the good traits and just want to finish the pantheon
@zacharyjackson1829 I have been stuck on a Slugfest with a Wizard King that had a bigger realm (Think Russia vs Ukraine) and army ,so I kept beating him in detail with superior tactics but he keeps respawning with more mobs ,so I started to ravage his landscape and that got me into the Evil alignment and lost my alliance...
@Vendura in this case you're playing normally, which my last advice won't apply. If you can't win by military might you should push for a magic victory. Get as much knowledge as possible and build all 3 seeds in 3 of your cities and go on the defensive. Magic victory makes everyone, even allies, declare war on you anyway so it doesn't matter
This is the first 4x game is think i will quit on without even beating the first realm. Nothing gets propper explained. No story, not why you fight not for what you fight not how to maybe get a decent starting culture. i hate games that just throw you in and say "here find out what we want from you"
Don't know if you will see this Jumbo, but I just realized something very useful: the special province upgrades that are unlocked by culture or tomes, like the Mob Camp from the Horde Tome, not only count as a forester or a mine or whatever, but can also be built where those province upgrade couldn't normally be built, meaning if your city is lacking that tile in it's domain, you can use those special structures to force the boost.
Won my first game, the tutorial realm, as Sauron the Dark One and had him Ascend to my Pantheon. Won a Turn 40 victory in Valley of Wonders as Human Constructors who turned Angelic. My leader also Ascended and joined Yaka who i defeated in battle. Having a blast.
I really like popping out an additional *2* scouts immediately at the start of the game. It's so easy to zip around, collecting as many magic materials as possible, while also getting a lay of the land so you can formulate your plan
This is especially important for Industrious societies because of the fact that they can prospect.
@@audiogarden21 I really like the prospect feature really handy for building a strong economy early game and building up your city very nice
@@audiogarden21 Is there a way to see where you’ve already prospected?
@@peterknutsen3070 Well it's easy to see where you haven't prospected but not so easy to see where you have. Places you haven't been to are highlighted when you select a prospector unit. Otherwise the territory looks normal. It'd be nice if they could do something to make it more obvious either way.
@@audiogarden21 and also for barbarian units because their scouts can lay down outposts.
I would just like to add: to repair an province improvement that has been pillaged, just left click on it. It costs some gold and takes 3 turns. This process is not tied to the cities production que. Also: you can change what improvement is in a given province. Just click on it then click on the swirly arrow icon in the box that pops up. If any other improvements are appropriate for that province, they will appear in the drop down menu that opens. Then, it just takes gold & time.
I didn't figure any of this out until 60 turns into my 2nd game....
That said - I am loving this game!. I especially like that unlike similar games, you don't have to worry about retro fitting existing units. So, so much. I also like that there is a great deal of malleability through unit and race enchantments throughout the game - even if you have preferred leader/race combo - it can play out very differently depending on the realm you're in, your start location, your goals.... Endless variety. Loads of fun.
One other tip worth noting: Outpost territory counts for gaining access to magic materials and the province bonuses of wonders. If you're at your city limit, you can just plop one down by a cleared magic material or cleared wonder to start getting the bonuses for it as soon as the outpost completes. Outpost territory also counts as friendly for healing, so you can even drop one down just to have a fast healing zone outside your territory. With the first materium empire skill, it only takes a single turn to set an outpost up.
Does it count for resources do you know like say mana or research do you get that income also? Some of the stuff I’m confused on like say it provides production is that the only one that doesn’t actually provide the income if it’s only attached to an outpost or does it go to your nearest city? :)
@@danielsgamerprofile4067 It will give you mana, gold, knowledge, and imperium (for wonders). Food, production, and draft won't do anything for an outpost.
@@Mechalibur gotcha that’s kind of what I figured 😌 just wasn’t certain I used outposts to grab some wonders I done that had resources like food and production which I figured would do nothing for me but I wanted that imperium income 😂🤷♂️
I genuinely hadn't even thought about this use for an outpost! Thank you for sharing!
@@danielsgamerprofile4067 Even if a wonder just gives things like production or food, it's still a good idea to annex it. The +5 Imperium is always nice, and the special province bonuses and extra rally options still take effect!
Just a thing I noticed, we dont need to build a crypt nor a prison in order to be able to sell heroes. Those buildings just give us bonus resources for keeping those heroes in the prison/crypt
Yeah, it feels like there are so many layers to things that some nuances can slip through the cracks. Learning what to do and what doesn't HAVE to be done can change a lot of strategy and save time/resources.
true noticed that as well, but the prison is needed for conversion etc.
You also need the prison/crypt to be able to convert/resurrect the heroes. But yeah.
How do you put enemy heroes in the prison? Only ever killed them in battle. Oh, y.if you invest in Shadow Affinity/Necromancy you can reanimate your heroes and enemy ones.
@@amethystwyvern It appears to be fairly random, but if a hero flees a battle, there's a chance that hero will either die, be captured, or return to your throne city after a set amount of time. Otherwise, it's a dice roll as to what happens with Opfor heroes. I just usually hold onto them for the benefits unless they have gear I could use for my heroes.
If you suck at this game, start a custom with only 2 members and dial the advanced choices down (not passive though) you'll start to form you style and get an understanding naturally each playthrough, thats how I'm learning.
7:26 You NEED to build cities. It's great to hear you saying this, as it was my biggest mistake as a noob. I'm just very surprised you said that on the section of planning ahead and where to place them, but you failed to mention the usage of the economic map mode to make better decisions in that regard and not end up with a second city that can't build a farm until it does 4 hops because you tunnel-visioned into securing that ancient wonder or whatever, not realizing the terrain modifiers.
Unless you are going for Artisan Perfectionists or Chosen Destroyers traits. Even then, you eventually want to have additional cities once you increase the cap.
My biggest tip to new players? Never stop making units. Its turn 25 and you're feeling good about your two stacks? well the AI has 8. Dont question it, they simply do.
as someone that recently got back into Planetfall because I can't pick up 4, this is very relatable to that game
How do you have the economy to have more than 2 stacks at turn 25 😂😅
(I thought about it and is the key to use more low tier units and avoid high upkeep ones until later?)
@@danielsgamerprofile4067 How do you not? If you arent using your armies to invade, you should be using it to break open wonders or farm infestations for gear. If at any point you ahve an army just sitting in a city, you are playing the game wrong
Protip: Barbarian scouts can create outposts. Run them into a cave, create an outpost. Make a city, release it as a vassal. Do this often
@@waffleswafflson3076 depends what map and difficulty you’re playing on I suppose
I generally have 8 stacks by turn 25
Thanks for all these videos. Won my first game last night via Magic Victory or whatever it's called, and it was after a few losses about half way through due to just being unable to expand, build, or do anything in any amount of time. I had a tiny army and one loss crippled me to death. I had poor upkeep and such. That said, building my final item to trigger the 15 turns till I win thing where every single thing on the map immediately went "KILL THE RATS" was terrifying... luckily I was on easy and despite them all hating me... well they never attacked. The spawning Invaders were the only thing I had to deal with and I had such and advanced army by then that they didn't stand a chance.
I can't stress how dangerous Death by Upkeep, as you put it, has been. My first few games all fell into the same problem. I never had gold, magic, or Imperium. I may have had 1, but not the other 2. I dunno if it's just me, but if I had to make any suggestions on what to look at for your first game, try focusing on the... I will fail to remember the name. Builder? Architect? Affinity. Orange kite looking shape, focuses on your infrastructure. Will give you a good intro in how to get to boosted, how to build etc... This may just be a personal thing though of course. It works for me, I still struggle with the others.
If you built the wrong tile improvements and don't have a boost, you can select your tile improvements and switch them to a different type. It's completely free, and always takes three turns. If you plan ahead, you can always have enough 2-3 farms/foresters/quarries for unlocks and boost, despite not having enough tiles to have all those buildings at the same time.
Also useful for switching your economy off of food and onto mana/research/gold once your city is at a comfortable size.
You can delete Guild improvements. Select city, gear, menu, buildings. You can delete anything you don't want. Buildings cost no upkeep, so guild buildings are the only ones worth deleting.
1:46 it's curious how you understand that each set of materials is themed, but you didn't mention that they're tailored towards the victory conditions. I mean; they're color-coded the same as them. It's a nice mid-game incentive to think that you're working towards your wincon by acquiring the relevant mats for the one you want. Or have you push one or the other depending on what mats you can secure.
Huh I didn’t think about that but that makes sense :)
That's neat, but I can't think of any scenario that you wouldn't pick one up. They all give you the effect regardless of the wincon you want.
It is worth noting that the boost serves as a discount on purchasing the structure. So the province improvements which provide the boost should be selected BEFORE the structure finishes building so you are refunded the discount. Better would be to have the structure boosted before starting its construction in the first place so the cost is reduced immediately when you start production.
Here’s a tip, there is no limit to summoned units…in tactical battles. Any skill, spell, item, or ability that adds a unit can be amazingly broken by giving you free and expendable units over the 18 unit cap for armies you bring.
That’s right! Also *siege* units.
We talked about that in yesterday’s video here on my channel if people want more info.
@@JumboPixel I think if I were Triumph, it would be the first thing I put a hard cap on. I played a Druid Frogman game, and by mid-game I was already drowning the AI in tactical summon animals. It can snowball pretty fast.
lv5 hero summon skill (elemental and animal) looks broken AF. I think they should summon T2 unit, not T3
A few map generation tips:
Low threat plus emerging infestations trait is a good synergy for a better early game that will still throw big monsters at you later.
Far distance really spreads out factions (with 6+ this creates a giant map).
It feels like the ai has a better time with maps that use deserts etc. instead of water. I haven't really seen them use ships yet (which is prob good since the auto resolve loves killing ship stacks that dominate in manual battle).
Oh I also use the level up city states option so they are still strong even at low threat. This also gives more of them specialty traits that provide great magic units in the rally tab.
Ships arent as useful since units basically work the exact same as them from what ive gathered...my few combats on water were the exact same as land but with no obstacles.
@@cheato1163 Sure, they are cheap chargers if you have the sailing faction trait though.
It felt good finding out that you can use imperium to expand your sectors in the city because my first few games I didn’t know that.
thats 100% the games fault. there should be a tooltip when you hover over your city number in the UI to tell you how to expand it. I had to google it myself to find out about it.
Do you mean by attracting population to claim a new sector or is there something I'm missing?
@@vesve i misread what he/she mentioned but yes, theres a bunch of stuff you can use imperium on like expabding sectors and increasing your city cap
@Hogans Hairline OK I know about the repeatable general skill Expanded Governance that allows you to increase your city cap for increasing amounts of influence.
I've loaded up a game where I have almost everything unlocked (because I used cheats so I could see what a whole bunch of end game stuff was actually like) but I can't find anything about expanding or improving sectors (beyond the base and special improvements from culture and research). Are we talking about Attract Population to grow your city by 1 population (or am I just completely missing something. I've checked the province improvements themselves and the city expanded info from the cog next too population and can't find anything)
@Hogans Hairline I'm sorry. I feel like that sounds rude, and that's not what I intended. I'm genuinely asking because I'd love to learn more about the game
I've found all your AOW4 guides helpful, but this one particularly so. Exploring the more obscure mechanics. Well done! 🎉
I want to add a good trick that my 14 year old nephew immediately noticed. As you gain items and sell remains you will inevitably gain lots of default mounts and low tier goodies. You can sell those to other players. If they don't hate you, they will pay good money or mana for it. Or you can just gift it for relation boost. So you don't only get the minimal amount of gold from selling remains. You can make a fortune with those. It's almost always better than letting the dead heroes sit in crypt and maybe gain some knowledge from them once you build graveyard.
i was mainly intrested in the failing to plan ahead, i usually have to switch what type of victory i have to go for since things around me changed
I haven't bothered much with diplomacy, so that part about the grievances was very helpful.
Can't wait to see what Triumph adds in the coming months with balance passes and system improvement based on player feedback. Then each expansion. One thing I'm hoping for is the return of the Alignment based classes in some form. AoW 3 (with the expansions) had more for each alignment, including my favorite: Greyguard, the Neutral alignment. It focused on economy and upping critical hit chances, and made for some interesting and unpredictable play as you had to balance out good and evil actions to maintain neutrality. Was a little easier to do though as neutral was between -200 and +200 evil/good point. So hopefully they expand this.
right now im looking forward to being able to make my ruler a dragon... sounds soo much cooler being a dragon than a humanoid.
@@arcanumelite4853 yep, definitely a first for the series, Draconian race was the closest we could get before. Now lizard form with draconian transformation will recreate that but it still doesn't compare to being able to start as an actual dragon. Going to make for some really fun realm runs.
@@arcanumelite4853 you can have a dragon?
The High culture is alignment-based. If you're good, you get stability, evil gets something I forgot, and neutral gets a bigass production/food bonus in each city per stability tier.
@@ThatsJStorm once the dragon dlc comes out you can make your ruler a dragon... not a dragon-human/whatever hybrid.. an actual full on full size dragon... but you cant use weapons and such anymore (cus dragon)
lizardpeople will also be coming in this expansion as well as a draconic racial transform... but the most exciting thing is the dragon ruler.
Loving the AOW4 content - good job. I know you touched on the expansion victory, but a video surrounding the victories and tips for each would be good, if you haven't done something like that already.
One thing about Diplomacy. It's wild to me that the option to call someone to war is buried in the Pronouncements menu.
10:11 So the “boost trifecta” to cover a lot of the bases, is Farm, Forrester, Quarry, and presumably in that order, so as to get the Food income early to grow the city faster.
From Quill18’s Mountain Sprouts videos, I’ve gotten the impression that the most valuable currencies are Imperium, Gold and Food. He also says Mana, but as far as I can see, that depends on how magic-heavy your “build” and playstyle is.
And then there’s some adjacency bonus stuff, but that’s really hard to get a feel for from watching videos.
Mana is super important. Spells are not only strong but you need global enchantments
#5 was helpful. I did not realize I could spend gold to rush production. I was wondering why I had so much of it sitting around
I would have mentioned about going over your city limit. I did this by absorbing vassels, I had I think 2 or 3 cities over my limit and my economy tanked so I had to re-release them as vessels.
Slight correction, you still collect remains and jail heroes even without the corresponding upgrades, it's just that you don't get mana and knowledge, and can't convert jailed heroes.
Would be great to get a guide on what to build or how many troops we should be creating. I struggle with balancing building new structures or units, since obviously gold and mana are limited in a sense. Feel like at one point in the campaign the AI has double my army even though my troops are better and I’m winning mostly all the fights. But I get overrun or my troops slowly get chipped away at and die eventually.
You may already know this but Ai will generally always have more army then you because they get resource cheats because they are not as smart as humans.
But you are correct, I recently just started to learn how to get aggressive and find a balance between building the right amount of units that won't tank my economy.
The good thing about this game is building units doesn't take a production slot of buildings which is another thing I love about this game compared to past iterations.
For the life of my I still can't figure out how to see the upkeep of units in a specific army, or what that army's total upkeep is.
The only tools I have is my total overall upkeep, and I can see that stat in the individual units in the production menu.
Go to the armies tab at the top left. Right clicking on all your units also tells you by the top right next to their titles and simple math gives you a decent idea
Excellent video. I learned a lot. Thank you for sharing Jumbo :)
Instead selling the remains, keep them and get wizard tower upgrades for small resource trickle such as knowledge, mana, etc.
I've only played two games so I could be wrong, but in my second game, I delayed founding second and third cities a looong time, just to see how the game played out.
The whole time, my hero cap was 1/1. Around turn 90 I founded two cities in the same turn, and then my hero cap went to 1/3 and I could finally animate and convert 2 more heroes from my crypt/prison.
And this part is a little fuzzier in my memory, but when I defeated and converted a city and now had a 4th city (my city cap was 4/3), my hero cap also went up to 3/4. Only thing is I can't remember if hero cap went up as soon as I converted that 4th city, or if it didn't increase until I increased my city cap to 4/4.
Tl;dr: hero cap is not equal to your city cap, it's equal to the number of cities you control.
That’s right. It’s actually the numerator, not the denominator of the city cap (so cities controlled, not capped)
At about 4:10 you said, "You can recruit heroes at any time. The cap is the same as your city cap." I was just clarifying.
just downloaded the game, thanks for the info
Worst thing for me was being resource blocked at mid-late game and having all my troops abandon me except for the heros. Literally couldn't do anything each turn...
If you are using all your gold and mana you need to expand apparently.
since everything I know about humankind came from your channel, I'm waiting for you to make tome tier list, because I know you will :D
I think it should be pointed out that just outright always selling the remains is not really that good strategy... like if you are playing more of a warlike campaign where you take territories left and right and raze cities its not like you need that extra couple hundred gold, and you might much more prefer the extra mana income that you get for having loads of corpses in your crypt. (especially if you are shadow faction becasue if I recall correctly they get a bunch of tech that increases their gains from crypt and prison)
Just sell all the ones that have too good gear to pass on. Late game most over 10 level heroes have incredibly good gear on them so it becomes harder to pass on them.
Great tips thank you
so I am not sure how the AI handles it. but wouldn't forgiving grievances increase the grievance into the enemy's favor, thus making it easier for them to declare war on you? instead of making peace?
I got confused in this part as well. But I believe what he meant is that you should get rid of the grievances you generated to prevent the opponent from declaring war to you, and that you should also sell or forgive the grievances you have from them, since you are not planning to go to war with them anyway (you have no use for them, so it's better to take the gold or alignment bonus)
When should I be thinking of going for a second city? Within the first 5 turns? First 10 turns?
I typically do it the moment I've found out where my starter vassal is located, so I can wiggle that city into the opposite direction and snag whatever resources my main city will not have access to.
I do it as quickly as I can once it is at least 3 tiles away from your first city.
Bought a melee hero that I would like to make magic focused with a respec but the only weapon choice is sword and board.
Surely the basic weapon types for each hero archetype are available and I'm just daft, right?
You'll have to find them and equip the other weapons on said hero. If you have defeated heroes In the prison/crypt, selling them off could get you these weapons real easy. Otherwise rng luck on loot.
What would I do without you? Many thanks.
Yes but why sell your enemies bodies when you can reanimate and recycle them?
MY BIG FAT THRONE CITY
Can Recruit heroes above hero cap, has 30 gold upkeep, one of the early things i do every game.
Do free cities expand or just remain the same size?
The city grows, but they sont settle extra cities
I wanna get it but idk, is it like planetfall was but a different setting and better?
I can never get into these RPG strategy games, in battle what XYZ Spell does to a particular fantasy creature vs another.
You didn't explain *HOW* to get magic materials outside of vassals and specific quests. Do you just need to clear out any occupying army that is squatting on one of the resources? Or do you need to actually control the province with that resource in it as well?
Well duh you have to have it in your domain. That's literally how everything works in this game, even wonders 😅
@@zacharyjackson1829 Are you actually using condescending quips like "duh" for a game that has not been out for a week? Grow up.
@@7F0X7 you getting offended over the use of "duh" and I am the one that needs to grow up? you asked a question that is answered by simple logic. Think more and get some thicker skin
Both. Need to have it in your domain and clear the hostile on the material site.
Speaking of heroes is there a way to disband one of them?
I went over the cap ( I know big mistake)
So I just walked that said hero into a battle alone and it died but I was unable to find the disband function
Haven't found a way to do it personnally so I just suicide them on a enemy stack
I’ve never disbanded heroes but to disband a unit you open up their inspection menu and there is a red icon at the top right, near where it shows their unit type icons (ie. cavalry horse shoe)
Can i have a question ? When we create physical traits & mind traits for own factoon, our summon units or units from tomes will be inherited the traits or not ?
Do Magic Material Effects Stack?
How to raid to draw out an enemy army?
tehy should rename grievances to "how to be annoying or not"
Does anyone know how to recruit heroes on PS5? I've only been able to do it when the game prompts me. Haven't figured out how to find it without the prompt
If I'm not mistaken, your heroes are tied with your cities. Every time you build a new city, you get a new hero. So if you want more heroes, build up your city cap and build cities for the heroes to come into play.
@Mikey Kliss
Go to "Heroes Overview" in the upper-left. At the bottom of the popup is a Recruit button.
I use an Xbox so I forget the PS shapes, but press Y (top button) to open the radial menu, choose the upper right magnifying glass to a submenu, and choose the helmet icon. There ought to be a ‘Recruit Hero’ button at the bottom of the hero overview menu.
Is there any advantage of being evil instead of good?
Well except the gold boost you get from razing cities i guess 😅
Aside from specific traits that give bonuses based on alignment, evil basically gives you an advantage in tempo. Instead of waiting on good relations with a city state to vassalize them, you conquer them now. Instead of waiting for grievances to build to start a justified war, you invade the moment it is convenient.
How to I build an Outpost? I'm new to the game.
Just go in a territory with your hero and left-click him. Only heroes can build outposts.
Can we all agree the auto combat mode is trash ? I constantly have + 700 on other stacks so for argument sake it’s 3400 vs 4100 and I’ll loose I hit retry and do it myself and I’ll steamroll them . Can anyone explain ?
AI uses force, not tactics. If your army is made to be tactical and not "hit enemy in face" then AI will perform badly with it.
@@secretname2670 yet the AI you face is generally tactical with a strength of 1400 + per army ; so that’s my point now I’ve seen my army prevail in certain circumstances where I thought even I would loose , sure . But that doesn’t negate the fact 8/10 times your right it just lines everyone up in a straight line and tries to win that’s not responsive and adaptive ,that’s just lazy programming IMO 🤷🏼♂️
@@magnificojuandissimo6010 well, the AI does not use spells unless it has 200% net benefit and it does not see difference between a bad and a good position in the grand scheme, only good terrain and bad terrain.
I've found immense success with auto resolve as a culture of Mystic Goblins led by an Astral Dragon because all mystic spells are very powerful and incentivize the AI to use them almost as if it was an actual player, but in reality the AI is really dumb.
Learn to abuse and use that to your advantage.
I've won many battles against a much statistically stronger opponent just because the AI cannot understand combos and marginal utility gain. It operates best with passive abilities, because these do not require comboing.
How to Deal with an ai leader leaving to sea alone in youre fog while youre at war with them?
Who plays with diplomacy? It requires no skill to kill any single AI. Set up teams and go fot carnage so the AIs had some chances.
Hero in Crypt if it's from independent city can be sold for good price if there will be the event of the city asking you to do so, but till you encounter such an event you will not know that this's possible. Sometimes it may be good idea to sell them not for money but for important item.
Planning for speciefic victory is rather pointless just because no matter what you plan but there're good chances that AI with it's additional resources will outrun you. You always should play agressively only that way you can be ahead of everybody by cutting out their resourses.
Upkeep is a problem but it only force the player to run for some speciefic technologies which reduce upkeep, give money and etc. It's just a thing everybody will meet playing for the 1st time especially with AoW 3 experience where money usually is not a problem on random map for long time.
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the game dont have much variaties of items for the heroes also items are not so rare in this game you get them by the dozens, heroes dont feel so Unique's is a OK game but it seems the game is base for the combat only and most of the combat you can win them automated if not all, I got bored after 20 hours playing the game, this game got me craving AOW1.
Yeah, the game is heavily skewed towards combat, and the combat is way too bloated with tons of unnecessary complexity with a lot of modifiers, attack types and parmetres on every unit, in my opinion.
Focus on the combat also makes playstyles not focused on military less interesting.
Battles being complex and taking at least multiple minutes each make multiplayer practically impossible.
I wish it has the combat of Humankind.
why is everyone saying this game is good? it's actual trash compared to AoW2. no special racial units, every race literally feels the exact same. AoW2 had 15 races with completely different units. The ingame music is uninspired dog shit compared to AoW2, too. Also, why do the buildings/towns look exactly the same for every nation? that's so fucking lazy, in AoW2 every nation had their own, thematic art for buildings... AoW4 is just extremely lackluster in so many aspects compared to its ancestor AoW2
Probably because we haven’t played AoW2
Really stupid how you can’t remove a unit from a stack without deleting it, like why.
just left click on the unit in the army display at the bottom of the screen with the army selected to select the unit individually. Then you can tell it to move out from the army it is in, provided it still has movement points. Best done at the start of the turn before you tell the army to move. You can't split armies on the same exact tile. Only one army per tile.
Nothing on how to beat someone quickly ?
Set 1v1 close, choose kruul the default barbarian rat champion. Learn spawnkin and basically rush the other faction and easily wipe them by turn 15. Easy 500 pantheon exp in case you're rushing for the good traits and just want to finish the pantheon
@zacharyjackson1829 I have been stuck on a Slugfest with a Wizard King that had a bigger realm (Think Russia vs Ukraine) and army ,so I kept beating him in detail with superior tactics but he keeps respawning with more mobs ,so I started to ravage his landscape and that got me into the Evil alignment and lost my alliance...
@Vendura in this case you're playing normally, which my last advice won't apply. If you can't win by military might you should push for a magic victory. Get as much knowledge as possible and build all 3 seeds in 3 of your cities and go on the defensive.
Magic victory makes everyone, even allies, declare war on you anyway so it doesn't matter
@@zacharyjackson1829 so the Nuke solution?
@@zacharyjackson1829 I've won at least 1 magic victory where my allies stayed allied with me through the whole process.
I learned not to do drugs today. :)
This is the first 4x game is think i will quit on without even beating the first realm. Nothing gets propper explained. No story, not why you fight not for what you fight not how to maybe get a decent starting culture. i hate games that just throw you in and say "here find out what we want from you"