BRITISH NHS DOCTOR SHOCKED by American Medical Bills (American Reacts)
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I recently had a discussion with two Americans in London and they defended the U.S system of healthcare by saying people should try harder and if they couldn’t afford treatment, then it was tough. I could not believe that attitude and said that I don’t think that view is generally shared by any country in Europe and nor should it be. What is more they actually believed that UK citizens pay 50% in taxes towards health care. It made me think just what nonsense and propaganda is being shared by insurance companies and pharmaceutical industries in the U.S in order to protect their profits.
So if someone gets raped in the US and gets pregnant and has crazy Christian parents who force her to have the baby because they’re against abortion would she genuinely have to pay over $50,000 just to give birth???? And then pay extra for skin on skin contact? That’s disgusting
Americans are only out for themselves..they don't care for the welfare of others.
@@annmitchell4663 that’s not true, this young guy obviously does for starters .
It's an awful attitude. I've been in A & E, maybe a dozen times; I'm 70 now, (I must be accident-prone, especially when I was a kid) and a number of times I've seen people drunk, or should be going to their GP; whatever! I have only gone, or been taken, to A & E when I was bleeding, needed stitches, had the end of a finger; 1) detached, 2) hanging by a bit of flesh, 3) very painful and obviously infected, mashed foot, concussed, knocked off a bike by a transit van, etc. But I prefer that, to a situation where people will not go to an A & E (or ER) until they are in an emergency condition and have no choice.
@@dantemedici8179 Its just a generalised phrase...I am aware not ALL Americans are like that.
I see a lot of Americans say that we pay through our taxes as an excuse to defend themselves but their health insurance is way more than what we pay and they still have to pay thousands and thousands in excess. It's such a huge money making business which is wrapped up in politics that I don't know how it can ever improve 🤔
...and they pay taxes too.. they just don't get anything for those taxes.. the education is awful and their roads and bridges are crumbling.. but the military has a blank cheque 🤮🤮
Jobs dont pay them enough either so it really needs to start there.
@@nukenude yes. No minimum wage, sick pay, maternity pay and no legal holiday pay. I know some get it but overall very little rights for the people. Sorry to JTS but this response is what he may get by choosing to react to this.
pure ignorance and remember a very very big part of aMEricans gets a heart attack when you talk about socialist ideas like having good and fair healthcare
Yeah and taxes are also dependent on income. Healthcare in America dramatically affects the poor more than it does the rich.
I had friends visiting from New Orleans a few years ago on one of them had a cut that turned really nasty. I took them up to the Hospital where the wound was cleaned, stitched and they were given a course of anti-biotics. Just as we were about to leave he asked "Where do we go to pay" as he pulled out his credit card. "You don't pay, its free" I said.
I have never seen a confused expression like his lol. He could not believe he didn't have to pay. "Who pays the bill then?" "The tax payer does" I said, "we look out for each other"
He proceeded to tell me for the next 6 hours how "Goddam lucky" we are to have the NHS.
That's awesome. It's good to hear about good stories of visiting Americans 👍
Yea emergency care is entirely free no matter anything, it's when being admitted there's a charge if that's applicable.
The NHS saved my life 2 times and my kids were born in hospital, no cost, love the NHS💕💕👏👏👏
I'me an Assistant Finance Manager for the NHS, and when i see these video's comparing UK and US medical care it makes me angry how such a big country has so little care for the people, yes we pay higher rate Tax but what we get is so much more.. it just shows how lucky us Brits are
Although we pay slightly more tax overall, I'm pretty sure Americans actually spend more tax per capita just to prop up the private health care industry than we do to fund the entire NHS. If there wasn't so much profit being made by the US health industry, they could have something better funded than the NHS with no changes to tax. Like I said, I'm "pretty sure" this is true, but don't take my word for it.
@@Corrup7ioN Per capita the Americans pay far more for their health care than the British do. Per capita Americans have a far worse infant mortality, lower life expectancy and many other poorer outcomes. The NHS is a terrific bargain, we must keep it.
Someone who actually works in the USA at present but is originally from the UK added up ALL the taxes you pay in the US: federal, state, county, property, etc etc PLUS his share of the health insurance premium (NOT copays, deductibles or any of that stuff though) and it came to around 46% of his income went on taxes. In the UK - for the same income - he was paying around 35%. Then by the time he added in all the other extras such as phones, insurance - not medical - and cable/satellite etc he actually had LESS disposable income at the end of it all than he did in the UK. He ended up by stating he couldn't wait for his term in the US to end so he could return to sanity and a higher nett income
@@Corrup7ioN They pay more than ANY OTHER COUNTRY and get less back for it.
Don't forget as well that our NI covers unemployment and pension as well.
One of the big advantages of a national health service, is bargaining power. For instance, if the NHS refuses to pay a certain price, for a particular drug and the drug company refuses to lower that price, the company has just lost 95%+ of the UK healthcare 'market'. If hospitals were bargaining individually, the drug companies would walk all over them.
At the moment I believe each local trust does regional procurement of medicines which is why there are inflated costs. Some trusts were paying £26 for a plaster in the past
a flip side of the same argument however, is that the NHS and other similar services use very stringent cost benefit unit measurements, i.e if something costs a load of money, but only benefits the patient (say a cancer treatment) then it will outright BAN that treatment on the NHS.
As a result, there are many amazing treatments out there for almost EVERY condition but so many if them are not available in the UK because of this.
@@joshsheffsagain4662 nonsense a child just received a drug at £1.5 million.
@@ansaranduin these were at hospitals that were built under the PFI programme. Private Finance Initiatives. These used private money to built hospitals "on the cheap" but those hospitals were then tied into ridiculous procurement contracts where items were hugely over Inflated.
@@charlestaylor9424 £1.8 million list price, it’s a single treatment that replaces a missing gene linked with spinal muscular atrophy, without treatment the life expectancy is 2 years from birth
Both my boyfriend and my grandma had serious (separate) accidents (bf broke his femur whilst skateboarding, grandma got knocked down by a lorry) and both of them needed to be airlifted to hospitals that had Major Trauma Centres. Bf spents weeks in hospital, grandma spent months in hospital. Both were cared for superbly by our wonderful NHS, and it didn't cost them a penny. I'm very happy to pay my tax for this!
This was in my recommendations today and I enjoyed it immensely. I thought I knew a lot about the NHS but learned a lot more. I live in Canada. My father suffered a heart attack when he was 84 years old (he's 90 now) and had to have two stents inserted. The local hospital does not offer this procedure so he was transported by ambulance to the hospital in another town, 100 km away, and back to our town afterwards. He spent three days total in hospital here. He never received a bill, for anything. He could concentrate fully on his at-home recovery. I support socialized medical care and am thankful for it. Thank you for posting this.
Grateful every day for our NHS.. I have quite a few American friends who have said they would like to live in the UK because of our healthcare, education system and social safety nets.
Well they are pretty much from here if there white American 90% chance there from the uk
@@shaun2763 that makes no sense.
Same, saved my life as a kid when i had a severe asthma attack, when i had pneumonia from a suspected covid case at the beginning of the pandemic (i wasn't hospitalised so i wasn't tested) and a consequent swollen lymph node which after having an ultra sound, thankfully turned out to a reactive node and nothing to worry about. I dread to think how much all that would have cost in the US, but every time i got to walk out of hospital without a bill and only my health to worry about.
@@shaun2763 what you talking about
@@shaun2763 sorry I did not understand your comment, could you please explain.
Those prices are criminal. I've seen a couple of this guys vlogs, he came to the UK for a holiday and ended up staying and became a British Citizen.
He came for university and stayed.
As there are many pros but many cons of living in the UK. That said I am glad I do not live in America. All of Europe in my personal opinion is much better than the US ( 1e.g: say in the UK if you work a standard 5 day week you get 28days annual paid leave unlike the US where are isn't a lot of laws in place state to state and I hear mostly 10 days of non paid leave) and if you want to move to the UK its one of the only places you will not have to learn a new language (most in europe speak english now but signs and everything is still in their native language)
@@zeppelinshy I make you right my friend. I wouldn't live in America if you paid me............ Everything thats bad in this world comes from the so called land of the free....... Terrible country, I can't stand the place, been twice, never again,.
@@dazza9326 I'd say not including the cost of booze and Im so stupid I cant learn another language, Id live in Norway they are amazing there. Or the Netherlands, from my trips there they look 100x better than the UK and like 1000x better than the US
@@zeppelinshy Are we talking about the birds ;)
I really hope that one day you will all get affordable healthcare in the USA, but I worry that your unfathomable fear of 'social' medicine will prevent this ever happening.
We really need to seriously appreciate health costs in the UK.
Millions of us do and wouldn't have it any other way.
And stop voting for the fucking Tories!
We do have private health care in the UK and it is quite expensive, but it is just that, expensive, not absolute daylight robbery such as medical bills in the States.
My mum went private for an MRI scan last year, and I think it was somewhere around the £200 mark.
Same here in Canada.
Though private UK health also significantly benefits from buying in cheap NHS services for the many things they can't handle, and have staff who were in the vast majority trained by the NHS - so they are effectively more than somewhat subsidised by the NHS - When my father had a major bypass operation in the NHS - in the waiting room a woman was explaining to her friend how as 'a private' patient, they got the surgeon they wanted for her husband - who turned out to be the same surgeon my dad had - so effectively she was paying private care costs for having a private side room, rather than being on the main ward, ^oo^
No, I used to pay £10 monthly for my private health insurance and added another £10 for dental, £10 for life...I cancelled everything when I moved to US when my dad was very ill...ended up luckily with a successful heart transplant in New York. He was lucky to be covered by Affordable Care.
I was ill with flu in US and could not afford even medicine...their medicines are very expensive in the pharmacy, had to buy tylenol..and some basic flu powder stuff similar to lemsip...it didn't work, ended up getting real ginger and lemon so made a concoction. I also didn't know I had fibroids...fortunately chose to come back to UK because I couldn't get work authorisation and still on their waiting least years later (my sister put in my application as a citizen), my step dad could not because not adopted and my mum could not either.
I have now had two surgeries in UK under NHS all free (yes it comes out of our income tax but we don't feel it) I am only considering getting private dental insurance again because I am scared of dentist and want to go to a really good one.
My sister in UK uses BUPA and is in and out of hospital like we breathe air....
Don't know what she pays monthly but don't think it would be expensive.
I think it's if you start the insurance at an older age (and more with pre-existing conditions) then it is more.
Sorry, my reply is long.
@@marilynseptember21 Thanks, detail is always interesting
I had 3 or 4 pints of Strongbow on Friday night, had to help our 17 year old labrador downstairs. I fell head first down the stairs backwards, knocked myself out and nearly died (stopped breathing for about 10 minutes).
Was kept alive by my family until an ambulance arrived to take me to the local A&E, needed an MRI to check for bleeding on the brain and scans on my neck and upper body (chest and arms) to make sure I hadn't broken any bones ...
Stayed in the A&E until 3am, and had a saline drip too!
Am completely glad that the NHS is free ... at point of access!
Paid for by taxes, not insurance!
Glad you're ok!
@@yedis1750 thanks, that means a lot!
I'm just glad that the UK *currently* (Bastard Tories trying to steal what's rightfully ours, bought and paid for) has a free at point of access healthcare system ...
Otherwise I'd have been screwed!
10 minutes without breathing? You are still drunk.
I seem to be the only person here wondering why you let your 17 year old labrador upstairs, i wouldn't allow my 11 year old English bull up the stairs because it's too heavy for her joints...
@@szultan44 nah, that was the time I was told I was out for ... but sorry I don't f***ing remember it, I was unconscious!
I am so proud of our NHS.
Firstly, it is every human beings right to medical treatment! WE the British, treasure the NHS we pay our taxes throughout our working life! Surely, this is a human right? Having been a Senior nurse Clinical and male matron, I am proud to of helped thousands of patient's throughout my career, FREE at the point of use!
I had an aneurysm and pneumonia in February and had operation within a day of them finding it, if I had to of paid for the treatment I would be dead now. Thank you NHS.
The NHS is great. Recently taken to hospital by ambulance brilliant paramedics. Two night stay, scanned treated and sent home with meds. A follow up outpatient appointment within a week and money not mentioned or considered. I would have hated to have the additional worry of no Insurance or an excess on a policy to pay.
As an Englishman living in USA I keep trying to explain to my family back home the cost is unbelievable compared to NHS. When you get charged $75 for an Ace knee bandage, and get charged by every person who you speak to. The cost of staying overnight is more expensive than some 5 star hotels.
Really, in that case you need to come back to UK bring ur family 👪
Now i get why Rambo stitched himself up!
Barry, I,m Scottish and was married to an American!
I had a kidney stone... Cost of surgery!! $10,800.00.
Extortion par excellence! Yet they decry universal health care " Socialism" what bunk! They're conned beyond belief!
But then there nurses are not being paid £12 an hour. it needs to happen here so i can be properly compensated for my skills
The cost is 5 star hotel in Dubai prices for healthcare in the US
Healthcare is a right not a privilege.
I'm so greatful for our NHS and hopefully one day the USA can learn to treat healthcare as a basic human right, not a privilege
European here!
Hopefully your generation can change the way healthcare works in the US and make the country more equal. Lots of good people living there and you are so worth it.
Keep on learning about the world and thank you for sharing
The thing is, and this is the most important part of the NHS - if you are ill, or require medication or treatment of any kind, the cost of it is never a consideration. You don't have to hesitate to go to the Doctor. You don't have to worry if they prescribe scans, hospital appointments, medication, tests, further investigations and follow ups. You can worry about ill health, but you don't have to worry about getting help. The thing that I find upsetting is that Americans avoid going to the doctor in the first place. They live with illnesses and conditions for years or try and self treat because they are petrified of the bills. The NHS isn't perfect, far from it. But of all the things us Brits worry about, we don't worry about getting treated for an illness. The NHS kicks in when you need it and we can criticise it all we want, but it has saved millions of lives.
Just had a scan today and it cost nothing. To be honest if I lived in the US I wouldn't be alive and am so grateful for the NHS. It's not perfect by any means and Covid has put so much strain on staff, services and waiting lists/ times, however I simply could not afford to pay those kind of bills in the US so wouldn't survive because of that and not necessarily because of any health issue I have.
an essential part of any NHS hospital is the machine that goes 'PING'
And an essential part of an American hospital is the cash register that goes ping
And the most expensive machines in case the administrator comes 😂
We are very lucky to have our NHS
Five years ago, my 35 year old son in law experienced sudden kidney failure but after lots of treatment he was able to have home dialysis. A family member became a live donor but this transplant failed, luckily he had another transplant that worked and he is in full time work and enjoying sports again. Recently he and my daughter had a baby by c section. This is our own little miracle.
Thanks to the NHS the treatment, the drugs, all the home dialysis supplies and equipment and the operations have cost them nothing so they start parenthood without financial worries. Yes, we all contribute in tax to make this happen and give everyone, rich or poor, access to free healthcare.
Is it worth it? To my family and others like us it’s priceless.
You know, it's probably the ONLY reason I could think of and maybe even condone a January 6th type event.
In the UK, the NHS is a revered institution and if we had as corrupt polititions as in the US - it would likely be verging on the whole population marching to Westminster and hammering down the doors.
My eldest daughter was born in 1986. For a 1st child, the new mum is recommended to stay in hospital for 10 days after the birth. Can you imagine the cost if she was in America. She would be bankrupt before she had even gone home.
This isn’t true anymore, (it was in the 80s/90s) now if you have an uncomplicated birth with no issues you are able to leave after 4 hours. Any small medical intervention such as epidural or baby expelling meconium in the womb, you need to stay overnight for observation then can go home next day
I gave birth to my first child in 1976 in England and went home the next day.
I had my first in 89 and has a first time mum had to stay in for 5 days to be shown how to Bath baby feed burp change so on, I was glad off it I would never be able to pay for it in usa, so glad In UK, went on to have 4 children at no cost.
which country are you in? i had my first in 85 and they only wanted you to stay 2 or 3 days after . now they want you to leave after few hours now in England
The NHS budget was around £140 billion in 2020, which some people may think is a lot of money. But that covers 67 million people. We give tax-dodging corporations over £100 billion per annum in corporate welfare and subsidies while also losing around £40-120 billion from the tax gap (unpaid corporate tax). So essentially corporate greed costs far more than the healthcare of 67 million people. Unfortunately, much of the NHS budget also goes to corporations via privatisation and out-sourcing. Aneurin Bevan lead the campaign for the creation of the NHS and despite being voted down by the Tories 22 times, finally succeeded and in 1948 the NHS was born.
@TheRenaissanceman65 Labour has never been against the NHS as they proposed and championed its creation. The NHS model the Labour party produced gives us Publicly Owned Hospitals and is Nationally Provided that is completely incompatible with Tory ideology. The Tories proposed Nationally Organised and Privately Owned Hospitals essentially very similar to the US model.
So please don't try and rewrite history. The Tories are ideologically opposed to free healthcare and always have been. Labour ideology supports free healthcare and public ownership.
If you don't even understand the ideological differences between the parties or the history of the NHS it's probably best not to prove your ignorance by typing...
@@steveparker8065 I remember the Labour party introduced private companies into the NHS by Tony Blair. The OLD battle lines you talk about here were in the 1950's AFTER world war two, money was a complete issue back then, 5 years of war and spending money on arms the UK loan leased from the US broke the country out The war had merged the OLD private health system BEFORE the war into a government run pre NHS. Labour wanted to KEEP the system that had been invented becasue of the war. The Tories who had merged the private system into government run war pre NHS, said that it was going to be expensive to run and manage, with the cost of Empire to rebuild.
The Empire crumbled due to the fact the British had NO money, had introduced a NHS expensive healthcare system, the first in the world, and also the independence movement in India spread over the entire Empire. Having said that the Tories and Labour parties of TODAY are on the same page of the NHS future, To keep it publicly run, to invest in people before they get sick, in terms of healthy lifestyle choices promoted and of course to get good performances from the money it spends.
The UK has a higher life expectance than the US citizens do, on average UK life expectancy is 2 years longer than a US man and 3 years longer for a woman. That is the exact point her made by JPS and the original with Evan.
@@darrellpowell6042 I'm not sure you managed to get one single fact correct. The battle lines were drawn and fought before the creation of the NHS in 1948, ww2 ended in 1945. We had plenty of money thanks to the Marshall plan. The Labour (Attlee) government of the time rebuilt Britain, built social housing to replace slums, created the welfare state to create a safety net for the sick, unemployed and disabled, Nationalised the Bank of England, Coal, Steel, Transport, Water, Energy and Communications (The Tories have sold most of these off and the taxpayer has to pay over £100 billion per annum in subsidies and constant bailouts thanks to failed privatisation). Labour also gave the UK legal aid, public parks, free schooling, public libraries, public transport, worker's rights and human rights (via ECHR).
As for PFI's they were first trialled in Scotland by John Major's Tory government and the Tories extended Blair's PFIs to 2035 and also added PFI2. There was no pre-war NHS it was created 3 years after ww2. The Tories are stealth privatising the NHS, have sold off many GP surgeries to US medical companies, sold NHS land and buildings and reduced NHS funding by around 4% as these IFS stats clearly show:
Annual average real growth rates in UK public spending on health.
Blair and Brown Labour governments 1996-97 to 2009-10 6.0%
Coalition government 2009-10 to 2014-15 1.0%
Conservative government 2014-15 to 2018-19 1.6%
But thanks for wasting my time with your revision of history, pedantry and economic and political illiteracy...
@@steveparker8065 You're talking out of your arse! Just another Labour voter talking BS again.
"We had plenty of money thanks to the Marshall plan. "
That was to rebuild EUROPE NOT the UK.
Just another Bullshiter on YT that thinks they know everything, they read from a fucking headline.
The private to nationalisation to private hands was becasue.. The UK citizens has shit services from governments Labour and Conservatives that DID NOT put money into the them as taxes and rebuilding did NOT cover the wasted money ploughed into Union wage rises, conditions that public companies carried over in debt to the taxpayers. The ONLY reason the IMF was running Britain under the Labour government was the UK was skint and borrowed too much money to pay it back for these systems costed money. Facts
Every Labour government has taken the UK to the brink of overspending money we don't have on projects at the time can't afford.
UK IMF bailout
The 1976 UK Sterling Crisis was a balance of payments or currency crisis in the United Kingdom in 1976 which forced James Callaghan's Labour government to borrow $3.9 billion ($17.7 billion in 2020) from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), at the time the largest loan ever to have been requested from the IMF.
Your just another Labour leftie that would have voted Jeremy Corbyn into power, that dumb terrorist loving cunt!
I don't and NEVER WILL attempt to rewrite history as Labour members seem to do every NEC and every election.
@TheRenaissanceman65 Labour was opposed to private hospitals and for-profit healthcare, not the NHS. You are conflating the NHS and a Tory model of private healthcare. Tory ideology is known as Conservatism but is more predominantly neoliberalism since Thatcher... PS we finished off paying for Marshall loan in 2006, it took 61 years. I'm surprised you are ignorant of this fact...
Health care in America is blatant extortion....I have had two children, three major ops.. (one to treat cancer) been in intensive care for 8 days and had countless GP appointments/tests/medication...my prescriptions are free because of medical needs. All this has cost nothing out of pocket and you really don't miss your National Insurance payments as they are taken at source without you ever seeing the money. When we are ill in the UK all we have to concentrate on is getting well again, I can't imagine having the stress of worrying about the financial impact. America...Land of the free my arse... :(
@TheRenaissanceman65 The NHS in England is funded mostly through general taxation and National Insurance contributions......fullfact.org/health/how-nhs-funded/
@TheRenaissanceman65 same with the car road tax it's supposed to pay for highway repair but as you rightly said it comes out of the 'general pot of other taxes'...
@TheRenaissanceman65 OK read it...direct quote from start... 'NICs also help finance the National Health Service (NHS). NICs are paid into the NIF net of money allocated to the NHS' Your point is?
@TheRenaissanceman65 That was NOT the comment you made that started this convo, you stated that NIC don't pay for ANY of the NHS...I never said that the NHS was funded solely by NIC, Is that blindingly obvious to you?.... can this stop now...getting really boring.
@@roy2689 Road tax, or VED, is a tax on motor vehicles and not on roads. VED is not connected to roads in any way which is a good starting point to explain what road tax pays for. Because road fund license ends up with the Exchequer it could be argued that road tax pays for everything and nothing all at once.
I meant to add that here in Scotland if you very ill they will send an ambulance for appointments and we have a mini bus that goes around picking up pensioners and those without cars to take them to hospital for regular appointments at the hospital. They bring you home too and see you safely inside if need be, all on the NHS.
I really think in the UK we should issue a paid bill receipt to people for all treatment, still have it paid for by taxes ect... but show everyone getting treatment exactly what has been spent on them so they appreciate the costs the NHS helps with.
But then you have the cost of producing that bill. Before that you have to price everything. Having said that when I got my CPAP machine they did tell me what it costs.
@@sashh2263 I agree.
A couple of years ago I was prescribed a new inhaler, it costs my GP £80 each time it’s prescribed- currently once a month.
I'm an older Australian, ten years ago I was flown from a country hospital to the city with a bowel bleed. I ended up with a perforated bowel as I had been diagnosed with IBS when I actually had Crohnes. I lost a lot of small intestine and had to spend 3 months in hospital. I was fed through TPN for the majority at 700 bucks a day. The money cost to me for absolutely everything was zero, under Medicare. One of my scripts after discharge was $3800 every 3 months...cost to me on PBS was $6.30. I'm certainly glad I'm an Aussie!
I find it really hard to get my head around the privatisation of your Hospitals and prisons.
I’m going for a spine operation next Tuesday and it’s not costing me anything. Obviously we pay national insurance so I know it’s not “free”.
We have private prison here too :(
@TheRenaissanceman65 "The NHS is funded mainly from general taxation supplemented by National Insurance contributions (NICs)." www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/how-nhs-funded
yes so you clown, take of those blinkers.
Much of our prison system is privatised.
Our prisons are privatised. Run by G4 or Capita. OUr hospitals have been sold off piecemeal for years to the likes of Richarse Branson. Glad you live in a place where the NHS isn't broken like it is in my area. Got family history of heart problems yet I'm still waiting 4 months later for the rests of a heart scan.
prescriptions in Northern Ireland{which is part of Uk} are totally free, proud of our NHS ,Proud of our hard working Drs and Nurses.
Thank god for Aneurin Bevan who started the NHS, nearly never happened. We are so lucky us Brits
Thank you to the NHS 💙 #thankyouNHS 💙
It's common knowledge that America is light years behind with health care.
Not just Healthcare.
It’s so mad hearing those costs. The awful situation of having a life-threatening event just to (hopefully) come out of it with an ungodly debt
America should get a grip and have an NHS ,so grateful for having the NHS here
Fell off my bike in UK, full face-plant, ripped my face in several places. Got ambulance ride to a hospital, x-ray and mri done, once they confirmed only soft tissue damage, doctors decided to get me to another hospital where they had much better equipment and doctors for facial microsurgery. 2 days in hospital, ~5 hour surgery with 30 stitches on my face and at least same amount in my mouth. The biggest expenditure was several public transport travels to find my bike as i went to 2 hospitals and was not conscious through most of that.
Scary to think how much that would have cost me in US.
I spent 7 weeks in hospital when i was pregnant with my son which being in the UK was free. I did have BUPA cover through work and they would only cover a private room if i ended up with a CS. I also was part of a health scheme through my husband which cost us about £5 a month but they paid me around £330 as they pay you per night in hospital. It also covered half cost of glasses, dentist and osteopaths etc not covered by NHS. That was 26 years ago but that type of scheme is still cheap
God bless the NHS❤️🌹
I have a congenital heart disease (LITERALLY only half of my heart). I have 18 operations (4 open heart, most key hole). I’ve had hundred if not thousands of scans and X-rays. Thousands of Ultrasounds and echo scans. Spent well over a year in hospital (combined) in 2004 I spent 28 of the 52 weeks in hospital. I’ve been on medication since I was 3 months old and have also had hundreds of doctors visits, thousands of blood tests and checkups. All this cost my family nothing at all (even my medication is free, due to the importance of it)
I decided to research and find out an estimate of what it would have cost me in the USA. I went in thinking about 300/500 thousands. WOW WAS I WRONG.
30 million… and that’s a low ball estimate. THIRTY MILLION POUNDS. Unbelievably stupid. America an amazing place to visit but, an awful place to live.
Those costs are so awful - there must be many people who've been financially ruined by medical bills. The Pharmaceuticals are at the hub of why everything medical is so expensive; I'm not being cynical here just, what I believe to be factual, it pays for Pharma to have people be ill.
Thanks for the video JP
The "It's only money" argument works only if you have money.
The NHS is one of the last public services that is still 'public' in the UK and has not been shelled out to private companies - I don't believe the UK voters would EVER let the Government outsource health care.
Most people in the UK that I have spoken to would even accept a TAX increase if they could be assured that it was going directly to improve the salaries of NHS staff - from cleaners, to nurses and also doctors at all levels. NHS workers are our heroes who help us when we feel at our most vulnerable and do a very hard job under very difficult conditions - they should be paid much better for their service to the public!!
The number of people who 'misuse' the NHS is actually very small statistically but, of course, it does happen.
We definitely take the NHS for granted, they do a great job 99% of the time, but then no one is perfect.
shame NHS is wasting money 0n trans people
@@girlsdrinkfeck that’s a shocking thing to say. Does that mean they waste it on fat people, people who smoke, people who drink alcohol, no one asked people to have kids etc etc, behave!!
@@billybscotland7246 fat and obese people pay the NHS via duty tax on the crap they consume. Trans is not a physical illness that is paid by their lifestyle
@@girlsdrinkfeck maybe not but they still pay their tax into the NHS, so are they not entitled to use the services? What about skin grafts etc?
@@girlsdrinkfeck but fat people and alcohols etc cause their own health issues, they are also entitled to use the facilities.
JPS, I'm only at 3:50 in the video and I can already tell you that the cost of prescriptions differs, right across the UK. I'm Scottish and live in Scotland, ALL of our prescriptions from the doctor are FREE. However, when I lived down in London, I had to pay for my prescriptions. I'm not sure of the cost, if any, in Wales or Northern Ireland. I'm not exactly sure how much this has to do with it but the 'Barnet Formula' is applied in the UK to split the money equally across all 4 nations, depending on population. At least, I think that's how it works lol maybe need a wee bit more research!
Though waiting times on an ambulance depending on the injury ..up two hours in scotland the nhs is poor under an SNP govt.
My scottish friend's elderly dad had a bad fall last weekend.. waited 10 hrs for the ambulance....🙁
@@CEP73 That's appalling 😡
Living in England.. and about 10mins from a major trauma centre hospital and every time I've called for an ambulance (including during the height of the pandemic) I have always still been on the phone to dispatch when the paramedics arrive.. we're very lucky!
that's scary
The NHS in Scotland actually preforms way better than England's, there are loads of statistics out there that prove this.
The SNP are the biggest party in Scotland because they actually care about their citizens unlike most politicians and political parties.
(Their handling in covid has been a million times better than Westminsters. They're also the ones who got prescription fees scrapped in Scotland for, under 18s, pregnant women, the unemployed etc.)
I've never heard of anyone waiting 10hrs for an ambulance that's ridiculous and very unlikely.
If you live in a big city in Scotland an ambulance will usually be there within 5-10 minutes, if you live somewhere more rural it will obviously take longer but never 10hrs. For non emergency situations with minor injuries (like an elderly person falling) a patient transport minibus would be sent out to collect the patient and take them to hospital to free up ambulances for emergency situations.
My sister lived in England for a few years and hated using the NHS there as most of the doctors had terrible bedside manner, were incredibly rude and judgemental, and often mocked her Scottish accent. She had her daughter in England and hated every interaction she had with medical staff during her pregnancy and after giving birth. She moved back to Scotland just before she fell pregnant again, her son was born in Scotland and she said the entire experience was 100 times better here.
It makes me really, really glad that my mother moved back to the uk to have me instead if struggling with the debts in the us. Last feb I was diagnosed with brain cancer and spent nearly a year in hospital off and on with many medical issues (ended up in the icu once). If I’d have been in the us I’d likely be dead as the costs would be astronomical. Not a penny here, just normal taxes. I plan on a fundraiser when it’s safe to thank the cancer ward that saved me :)
I forgot to add. My Dad is still in the us and was blind for nearly 3 years as he couldn’t afford to get his cataracts removed.
My thoughts are with you and I pray you live a long and fulfilled life
@@brendanukveteran2360 thank you. Right back at ya :) 1 year clear of cancer, woot!
Fascinating! On childbirth costs, a friend is an Ob/Gyn in Philadelphia, and his medical negligence insurance premiums were enormous as everybody sues if the child is born with a problem. So I expect all the costs to do with pregnancy in the US are heavily loaded by that.
I think half if the she happy stuff is to pay off as much if the insane costs as possible.
I guess in the US, if your child is born with a problem you HAVE to try and sue someone in order to be able to afford the child’s future medical care. In the U.K., we don’t have that worry.
@@noonnie9302 ...I think it is unusual in the NHS, and I presume in the US, nowadays not to be aware of health complications that might present before the baby is born. The performing clinician here would make this evidently clear to the parents, and it would be their stated documented decision whether they wished the pregnancy to be halted or continued. In other words, there can be little onus on the clinician, other than, of course, some sort of dilatory practice occurred during the pregnancy or during birth or ensuing dilatory practice. Other than that, the NHS, as far as I'm aware, will still pay for any subsequent treatment that the child, even becoming an adult should they live, might need in the future. Please correct me if I'm wrong concerning my last sentence. Robert, UK.
Medical bills are loaded through greed. Americans need to wake up and realise that ignorance is very, very expensive.
Proud to be English and living here wonderful.
That was so interesting! I'm UK and been hospitalised/transported by ambulance many times, I never thought about the costs. Now I'm curious and will do further research. I've had bone fractures from birth, some very nasty compound fractures over the years where I've been hospitalised for weeks at a time resulting in metalwork implanted in various parts of my body ($/£?). I'm now 60 and still mobile and healthy! That's all due to the top notch NHS care I've received. I don't just mean the surgeon's wonderful skills but also the after care from nurses, occupational therapists and physiotherapists who work hard and give psychological support and encouragement. I've grown up with the NHS being a caring profession and it shocks and saddens me to think of people in the US suffering and not receiving the medical treatment they need because they don't have the money to pay for it. If I had been born in the US I don't think I would have survived early adulthood. Thanks Jps for the video you've really got me thinking! 😊
I'm so lucky to be in the UK, I have several chronic conditions which make it completely impossible to afford private healthcare insurance so I have to use the NHS, amongst other treatment I have had 2 bouts of neck surgery, the first to remove 2 discs that were compressing my spinal cord, and the second to remove a 3rd disc. Treatment in both cases was brilliant. NHS funding is becoming an increasing issue but I, and many others, would be happy to pay increased tax to cover the shortfall....
He gets paid £12 an hour??? My sister-in-law who was visiting from the UK to Australia, fell (missed a step) and landed on the decking splitting her eyebrow open and when our Doctor finished stitching her up … $0. Apparently the two Government health systems reciprocate with each other.
I get the impression the Medical Health insurance industry is so lucrative and powerful in the USA that I feel their Lobbyists would do everything possible to foil any plans for a true NHS style system.
Exactly!
You will find that the majority of people in the UK do not just go to the hospital or doctor unless they really need too. One thing that people don’t realise is that because we have the NHS the government take their duty of care more seriously. That is why we we have strict rules on food with sugar, salt and additives. It is why our rules for passing a Motorbike test are so stringent. I am sure there are many other examples. It is not because our politicians care more, It is the fact it is cheaper to prevent people getting I’ll or injured then it is to fix them. The biggest benefit of our system is that if you get to the point where you need the help of the NHS your only concern you have is for your health and recovery, not about money or bankruptcy.
I Can't Believe in this Age that USA don't have a NHS , I Do know how lucky I am living in a Country where we have one of the Best HealthCare Treatment in the World we have a long and very Proud History , I hope One Day The USA will have a NHS.
As an American, I find myself asking why this isn't criminal. There are an average of over 600k medical bankruptcies annually here. Disgusting how many justify these shakedowns
In all the many US tv medical dramas that have also been shown in the UK and worldwide dating back to the days of Dr. Kildare up to the present day I have never once seen a cash register or credit card machine in the corner of any doctor's surgery or operating theatre, nor any mention of how much any ongoing aftercare or drugs would cost...
Strange that ain't it !!!
I am 70 UK citizen. I have worked since leaving college, been married twice (first wife died from cancer at 67) . I have had long term health problems, poor lung capacity, since my 40's. A few x rays and 2 inhalers per month. My first wife had cancer leading to leg amputation, so wheelchairs, prosthetics for 35 years, etc. Died of lung cancer, after year of chemo plus all the rest. She had in addition a lymph problem from birth which needed monthly medication. I could go on but won't. None of this cost us anything. Americans you are being robbed.
We pay tax to treat cancer Americans pay tax to bomb Syria.
We also have 4 weeks paid holiday, better maternity leave, better sick pay etc.
medical treatment is totally free in thUK funded by taxation.
If patients choose to go privatel then the charges discussed here refer to
private treatment only!
My prescriptions are free because I have an under active thyroid. There are a few conditions where this happens. I also had an emergency cesarean section. I didn't pay a penny
My prescriptions are free. I live in Scotland. Thank you, Scotland 🏴
The costs that the British doctor is quoting are the cost to the NHS not to the individual. Unless you choose to go private, all your treatment is free. We have a lot to be grateful for with our NHS.
Wow some of those treatment prices are crazy! How on earth would an average earner with a family pay for that without any insurance
We are so lucky to have NHS.
I read a comment on US healthcare recently. It said 'Don't get sick. But die quickly if you do. How sad and 😨scary 🇬🇧
I had a heart attack and didn’t pay a penny thanks to NHS 🇬🇧👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️
Americans getting so blatantly ripped off like that for medical care is despicable.
Hi Joel, How about some Vlogs showing American life styles, aka a vist to golden arches for a meal, a day on the beach, a visit to a country park, just something to show a day in the life of you guys. :):):):)
Hi Joel, I am Swiss. We have bilateral agreements with the EU but are not members. Not to mention the UK has now quit the EU. Anyway this was a few years before they did. I was on holiday in Scotland in a tiny fisherman’s cottage. One night I managed to find my head in direct line with a stone lintel. 6’3’’ does not go well with cottages built for 5’ fishers. Split scalp and eyebrow.
Anyway, you know how scalp wounds bleed. Made a mess all over and finally decided I probably needed some medical attention. So I went to the nearest clinic. The guys took one look and sent me off to Aberdeen Hospital ER. Got there, treated very efficiently and stitched very nicely. Barely visible today. All over and ready to leave, I asked where do I settle the bill? The nurse looked at me diagnosing brain damage and sais ‘what bill’ ? You are a European visitor and covered by the NHS. 0£
In the UK it saves the government money (in the long run) if they try to keep us healthy, in the US the insurance/drugs companies make more money the unhealthier the population is.
I'm English and was very surprised by a video I found, which was Jay Leno asking questions of young Americans. How about reviewing this one entitled Pedestrians Being Dumb for 10 Minutes Straight I bet you could answer more questions than these guys. Thanks for all your videos. I love your expressions when you look at the camera. It's like you''re looking directly at us. I subscribed ages ago.
I had three c sections, my first birth I was 48 hrs in labour and top of the pain scale, I was told I needed an emergency c section and they put an epidural in so that I could be awake but they pulled spine fluid off and they panicked I would go into a coma. I went in awake but I wasn’t numbed up on my right side fully and I could feel it in pain, the surgeon told me to shut up or he would put me out I chose that. My baby had a placenta that was three times the size, I lost a lot of blood and the next day I was freezing but even then I had to convince them I wasn’t right in myself, ended up with 5 pints of blood. Imagine how much that must have cost.
I so appreciate ourNHS
These prices are what it costs the hospital. It is all free to the patient.
after watchin this i am a million more percent gratefull for our nhs here in the uk. and i am a big fan of evan he is brill xx
I’m a brit. I don’t just go to the doctors or hospital. I only see a doctor if I have an annual checkup or blood test (due to having epilepsy), OR if I really do have an emergency (e.g. times I broke my legs, collapsed/passed out, was in a car crash), OR the going into hospital because of the operations I needed. If I’m in pain I’ll call up the GP/doctor or 111 first and consult with them (as I did when I had gastro enteritis) before going into the doctors. If I can deal with it on my own I will.
I'm glad I live in the Uk My labour from start to finish was 67 hours long and entailed a failed forceps delivery and an emergency c section.
When we go on holiday to the US we get insured for up to $10,000,000 it’s nuts, in case we get hurt
NHS is for sure the finest in the world - I was 14 years old and rushed to the hospital in and ambulance - then found that I needed and operation for apendicittus (my spelling not good) however after being poked and proded by 4 doctors they deside that I deeded emegency operation - I later found out that that took more than 3 hours because it had turned into pertonitis? I remained in the hospital for another 12 days. I had 14 clips and 8 stitches to fix the wound and I have a scar that is 12" long on my tummy. The cost to my parents was "0".
I just dont get why Americans just accept being robbed like that. It's crazy!
I'm convinced it's a kind of Stockholm syndrome. Americans have been under the yoke to insurance companies for so long it would be too hard to admit several generations of being conned.
Health care should be a basic human right we are so lucky in the U.K.
In the UK the NHS is run differently depending on which country you live , so for example prescriptions in England cost about £9 per item , I'm Welsh, in Wales prescriptions are free, in 2019 (we were still in Europe at the time) I was diagnosed with needing a new hip , because the waiting time to receive a hip replacement was over 30 weeks the NHS paid for me to have it done in Lithuania , before Brexit people had the right to travel to any of the 27 states of Europe to have medical procedures done if it couldn't be done in the UK or if the waiting time was to long, we lost that right the day we left Europe .Not many people know this
I'm a skateboarder and mountain biker in the UK. I wouldn't risk doing either of those activities if I lived in the US!
As a rider l dread to think what the various falls, kicks and most recently, shoulder dislocation would have cost me had l had to pay for them.
I'm so grateful for the NHS because if I lived in America I would have died years ago literally. I hope one day you will have a health care system that is for the people and not for the pharmaceutical companies
We have been saying for years we have not got the money to invest more in the NHS
then covid comes along and we spend billions if not trillions dealing with all that went with it !!
Amazing how that money suddenly appeared from nowhere isnt it !!!
#supporttheNHS
That was interesting! More for the estimates of the NHS costs, as was said, I think it's easy to take it for granted and I think some don't realise the costs involved even for the more basic treatments.
With prescription costs vs the over the counter price, I've found that they will write the prescription to a bulk amount so it is better for the patient. For example, paracetamol, my mother could only buy 2 packets at a time so was given a script for 100 tablets, cost effective and convenient for her long term ailment.
Also the pharmacy will usually recommend an over the counter equivalent product of it works out cheaper. Or if you already know that you’ve been prescribed something that can be bought as an cheaper over counter product, you can ask for it
I do some medical ordering for my ward, some of the things are cheap, some are not.. depends really. But they're nowhere NEAR (along the order of several astronomical units) the costs of what the US charge for things.
Thank goodness for the NHS 💔
Aside from childhood appendicitis and very occasional GP issues, I hardly bothered the NHS all my working life...until at 58 I had a heart attack...treated promptly in intensive care...turns out what I thought was shortness of breath was also the onset of angina but it hadn't occurred to me it was that serious, and I'd ignored the pains for ages. Anyhow I returned to work (stressful old job but it's what I knew) and about five years later I had a second heart attack...further period in hospital, and the quacks thought it would be advantageous to me to put in some stents...they did three...again I returned to work until retirement (though I had a period of remedial physio too), so since 58 I've been on half a dozen medications. First couple of years it cost me just over a hundred pounds a year (paid off monthly). Since age 60 the medications (now down to five a day) have been free...the NHS saved my life and continues to care for me...at (nearly) 68 I feel one heck of a lot better than I did at 58 - so obviously I'm going to say the USA needs something similar...aside from anything else who otherwise is going to keep your Health Corporations and Drug Companies honest?
I have had Type 1 Diabetes since I was 2 years old and I’m so glad I live in England. I have American friends who are paying thousands upon thousands a MONTH for medication that keeps them alive and it’s so ridiculous. So many people with Type 1 in the US die because they cannot afford the insulin prices.
I agree many have lost lives because they missed and waterd it down
Even if you ARE insured… oh my god it’s terrifying 🙃 I went into hospital very unexpectedly for nearly a month after serious operations at age 20, I was in uni and not working, if I was in America I would have bankrupted my family - I am forever grateful to the NHS, my saviours
I had spinal surgery at a private hospital, in the UK, but paid for by the NHS (my local hospital had an agreement with the private one while they had no back specialist). The NHS would only pay what it would cost them; I was told that for my 10 hour operation, the week spent in a lovely private room, the physiotherapy, the constant nursing care and all the drugs etc, the NHS would only pay between £2,000 and £2,500. My surgeon's secretary told me that would just about cover use of the theatre!
If I hadn't had that operation, I would have been paralysed within a few months, and yet in chronic pain. Thank goodness for the NHS!
Btw, my surgeon worked as an NHS consultant as well as a private one, but he only had room in his private practice. And the reason that my local hospital needed the private hospital's assistance was because their consultant had just walked out, without giving notice, leaving a backlog of patients.
I am a UK resident and went to A&E with a nose bleed that would not stop for four hours previous. Well looked after. One 'trick' i did learn was if it happens again, use the nose clip like swimmers do. Made my arms/hands ache trying to hold my nose that long. 3 in this house, 3 nose clips bought.
I live in Australia and we have a similar health care system called Medicare.
Medicare is great and our PBS is brilliant. My blood pressure meds cost me 9.95. This year I have had a number of blood tests and an ultrasound. Didn't cost a cent.
And people saying that we pay through our taxes for the NHS? We don't!!!!!! It is free to everyone, for everything from major to minor.
I've been subscribed to both of Evans channels for some time now. They're always good, fun videos.
Prescriptions are charged in England not the UK. There are no charges in Scotland and Wales.
The uk has a Health service to make people better. The us has a health industry to make money.