I think it took longer at Dongzhimen when you walked from Line 2 to Line 13 because you were walking to the Line 13 boarding platform, and the arrival platform is closer to Line 2
In ancient times Line 13 was in a different system from Lines 1/2 and to transfer at Xizhimen one had to exit the station. Later the section outside the station was eradicated but through the creation of a restricted passageway on the surface connecting the two stations, and it is rumored to be over a kilometer of walking that usually takes half an hour. It is also speculated that some transfers in the Beijing subway system are deliberately prolonged in order to trap more passengers in the passageways and feed the platforms more smoothly so that the platforms wouldn't become dangerously overcrowded.
Wow! Thanks for sharing this info. Appreciate it! I heard that you needed to go out of Xizhimen to transfer stations, which is so fascinating because it's very very rare to do so now in Beijing subway. It's all so connected.
The longest loop metro line record was just broke by Moscow line 11😄back to transfers stations, BJ's city road network is a very rectangle grid, 90 degree intersections everywhere, metro network design naturally matches this shape, the primary consideration is to move ppl cross surburban and center in the shortest way, so north-south and east-west straight along existing traffic corridors. The convienience of transfer is not priority at that time because the network at that time doesn't need much transfers. As the urban grows & changes fast, some early metro designs have outdated even before being built, the design has to change to accomodate new urban developments. Some transfer stations were not orginally designed to host more than 1 line, then later when plan changes it has to work around using long winding passages to make it work. Later network plan becomes more stable, so newer lines generally have better connection because the transfer passage is already considered with other factors like location/track/platform alignment in master plan. Hong Kong metro system is a very different design compared to BJ. HKMTR uses mostly parallel transfers, which is you transfer to another line by simply going to another side of the platform. HK's urban landscape is very scatterred because of its mountainous terrain, you have isolated urban areas here and there, and a lot of them are strip shape because you have to develop along the only flat space between hills and on seashore. So HKMTR lines can naturally share same corridor at population centers, then divert to different directions. When you have two lines running parallel for a section, it is possible to make parrallel transfer. It requires two tunnels for each line, one on top and one beneath it, and sometimes tunnels need to do a up-down swap between stations, so it is more expensive and difficult engineering.
You're a subway genius and I appreciate you for that! Thank you for this explanation. I read it with great pleasure. If you can point me to online resources or forums about China/ Beijing subway, I'd be thankful!
The London Underground has some short and long transfers too. In the short category changing to the Piccadilly line to go to either Uxbridge or Heathrow Terminal 5 from the District line is no distance at all, it's the opposite platform. Some long walks Northern to the Jubilee line at London Bridge (5 minute walk) and Victoria line to the Northern Line at Goodge Street (another 5 minute walk)
You know, when I moved to Beijing, there were only two subway lines. I still remember the scene when Line 13 opened. I have been away from Beijing for three years. After watching your video, I found many new changes! Thank you!
Line 13 for me will always be the most iconic line for me, because that's all I knew when I first arrived in China (was studying in Wudaokou). In the past three years, Beijing subway has seen a lot of changes. I hope you get to see them for yourself soon!
Haha! It was either Xizhimen or Dongzhimen, they both connect Line 13 and Line 2. But I read online that Dogzhimen was longer. I'm thinking of a part #2 and will definitely see whether Xizhimen can prove the internet wrong.
Thoroughly satisfying video. Well done!
I think it took longer at Dongzhimen when you walked from Line 2 to Line 13 because you were walking to the Line 13 boarding platform, and the arrival platform is closer to Line 2
In ancient times Line 13 was in a different system from Lines 1/2 and to transfer at Xizhimen one had to exit the station. Later the section outside the station was eradicated but through the creation of a restricted passageway on the surface connecting the two stations, and it is rumored to be over a kilometer of walking that usually takes half an hour.
It is also speculated that some transfers in the Beijing subway system are deliberately prolonged in order to trap more passengers in the passageways and feed the platforms more smoothly so that the platforms wouldn't become dangerously overcrowded.
Wow! Thanks for sharing this info. Appreciate it! I heard that you needed to go out of Xizhimen to transfer stations, which is so fascinating because it's very very rare to do so now in Beijing subway. It's all so connected.
The longest loop metro line record was just broke by Moscow line 11😄back to transfers stations, BJ's city road network is a very rectangle grid, 90 degree intersections everywhere, metro network design naturally matches this shape, the primary consideration is to move ppl cross surburban and center in the shortest way, so north-south and east-west straight along existing traffic corridors. The convienience of transfer is not priority at that time because the network at that time doesn't need much transfers. As the urban grows & changes fast, some early metro designs have outdated even before being built, the design has to change to accomodate new urban developments. Some transfer stations were not orginally designed to host more than 1 line, then later when plan changes it has to work around using long winding passages to make it work. Later network plan becomes more stable, so newer lines generally have better connection because the transfer passage is already considered with other factors like location/track/platform alignment in master plan.
Hong Kong metro system is a very different design compared to BJ. HKMTR uses mostly parallel transfers, which is you transfer to another line by simply going to another side of the platform. HK's urban landscape is very scatterred because of its mountainous terrain, you have isolated urban areas here and there, and a lot of them are strip shape because you have to develop along the only flat space between hills and on seashore. So HKMTR lines can naturally share same corridor at population centers, then divert to different directions. When you have two lines running parallel for a section, it is possible to make parrallel transfer. It requires two tunnels for each line, one on top and one beneath it, and sometimes tunnels need to do a up-down swap between stations, so it is more expensive and difficult engineering.
You're a subway genius and I appreciate you for that! Thank you for this explanation. I read it with great pleasure. If you can point me to online resources or forums about China/ Beijing subway, I'd be thankful!
The London Underground has some short and long transfers too. In the short category changing to the Piccadilly line to go to either Uxbridge or Heathrow Terminal 5 from the District line is no distance at all, it's the opposite platform.
Some long walks Northern to the Jubilee line at London Bridge (5 minute walk) and Victoria line to the Northern Line at Goodge Street (another 5 minute walk)
Good to know! The first time I switched lines by walking to the opposite side of the same platform, I genuinely felt confused 😅
You sound like an American. Well, I was also impressed by NY subway 35 years ago when coming from China.
How much has the NY subway changed since?
My home is only 50 kilometers away from Tiananmen Square.
In Mexico there is a Subway transfer which is 880 m long
Now that's what i call a challenge!
Sanyuanqiao is having an extra line added to make 3.
Hello, brother. Can I ask what application can be used for Google maps? Thanks
Xizhimen, Qianmen, and Shilihe are honorable mentions, too
you need those shoes with the wheels in them
Haha. Not sure if I can find them in size 44.
西直门，西直门，西直门
下次吧！哈哈。
You know, when I moved to Beijing, there were only two subway lines. I still remember the scene when Line 13 opened. I have been away from Beijing for three years. After watching your video, I found many new changes! Thank you!
Line 13 for me will always be the most iconic line for me, because that's all I knew when I first arrived in China (was studying in Wudaokou). In the past three years, Beijing subway has seen a lot of changes. I hope you get to see them for yourself soon!
@@longinchina Wow, I'm also at Wudaokou.
@@pptskills Wudaokou rules!! Was there a couple of months on a day visit. The 枣糕 place is heavenly, if you've never been. Right next to 森马。
@@longinchina Okay, thank you.
@@longinchinayou were in Tsinghua University?
Which app you use in the video? 😄
The app is called Keep! 😁
I was expecting you to do the Xizhimen transfer haha. I heard its dreadful
Haha! It was either Xizhimen or Dongzhimen, they both connect Line 13 and Line 2. But I read online that Dogzhimen was longer. I'm thinking of a part #2 and will definitely see whether Xizhimen can prove the internet wrong.
You can only want to remove faults .
微生物
Do you have such a subway in your country.
Nope. A subway won't work in Lebanon. It's costly and the country is small.
Complicate