(How To) Zone Focus with a Leica Rangefinder and NEVER miss focus!

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    Today we talk about how to master zone focusing with a Leica rangefinder so you never miss focus again! This is a great technique to use for street photography so you never miss a moment. This works well with all 35mm film cameras but will be much easier with rangefinder lenses that have focus tabs.
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  • @_H_2023
    @_H_2023 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You forgot to mention the crucial part that's the distance that would actually be in focus eg feet / metres at each of your three positions eg @4ft f16 what will be in focus would be roughly 3ft - 8ft that's why it's called zone focus. the extremities of the zone being softer focus.

  • @patriciatedeschi512
    @patriciatedeschi512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Finally someone who explains zone focusing using a rangefinder camera without creating more confusion. Thank you.

  • @karimnasser9226
    @karimnasser9226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Zone focusing works as long as you can guess how far a particular zone area is. I guess the real training is guessing your distances. Also with zone focusing you can forget shallow depth of fields, which I particularly don't use. I use f/5.6 and smaller in street photography.

  • @SourPlanet
    @SourPlanet ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If anyone reading this is on a typical Autofocus style body (such as a Sony A7, etc).. you can do this as well. It won't be nearly as clean as seen here, where the lens is designed to really make it easy for you. BUT, you still have multiple options that work fantastic. One is adapting vintage lenses, which mirror the experience seen here pretty closely. Adapters are typically cheap, lenses are available for very cheap (My favorite- the Asahi Pentax 28/3.5 SMC Takumar- was $30). The other option is getting contemporary manual lenses manufactured for your exact mount. In the case of Sony, you have a few options... but the gold standards are Zeiss (Loxia) and Voigtlander. They are less fidgety and prone to aged-related wear than their vintage counterparts. Dialing in zone/range focus is very straight forward with modern manual lenses, where-as it might take some experimentation with vintage lenses. Everything else he talks about here still applies. Just keep in mind that the focus throw will not be as short and sweet. BUT, it may come with upsides as well. For instance, the Voigtlander 21/3.5 Color Skopar can focus very close. So it has a short throw for 1.5ft to infinity.. then a very long throw for under 1.5ft. We lose the ability to whip back to 2ft minimum distance at a hard stop like seen here... but we gain the ability to focus much closer. Similar quirks exist for many lenses (look into the Helios aperture limiter, for instance).
    Anyway. A little ramble for those who may end up here and think they can't pursue this with their random modern cam ✌

  • @ianbrown704
    @ianbrown704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent tutorial, just got a Leica SL2-S and will be using a 35mm f1.4 in manual focus. Never used manual focus so this zone focus tutorial was very helpful. Thanks Ian (UK)

  • @theoldcameraguy
    @theoldcameraguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Learned to dig zone focusing with my first love, the Lomo LC-A. Good tips man.

  • @1-year-old628
    @1-year-old628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, your sample pictures are better than 99% of youtube film camera channel

  • @eddymangual8161
    @eddymangual8161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Killing it man. Thanks for the simplicity. Hope you’re doing well! 👏👏👏

  • @JDubyafoto
    @JDubyafoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your 3-point system! I've always looked at the distance scale on the lens to get it close to where I want prior to shooting. That may go back to my days of shooting weddings with a Hasselblad...I had a rapid focus lever on the lens & I put obvious markings along the ring of the lever so I could quickly move the focus & with a glance tell where it was. Not as fast as your system but it still worked! #Canongang!

  • @tiggiewinkle8515
    @tiggiewinkle8515 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After viewing multiple zone focusing videos, THIS made it clear! THANK YOU!!!

  • @KavionSabio
    @KavionSabio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a dope video. I got a Minolta X-700 about a year after I bought my first SLR (thanks to you 😎🤙🏽)
    This is gonna help me tremendously. Thanks bro

  • @thomaspopple2291
    @thomaspopple2291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best video I've seen on zone focusing. Thank you.

  • @iLLWiLL173
    @iLLWiLL173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good looks on the video...I just picked up a M10-P not too long ago after using the Q-P ...using manual focus has always been an issue for me because of my near sightedness...so been trying to practice zone focusing more and more these days...will definitely try out your tips after I get my Leica 28mm 👊👊

  • @duaneswaby622
    @duaneswaby622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this method! Lots of great tips here fam 👌🏾

  • @mike_yphoto6692
    @mike_yphoto6692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zone focus all the time with my Rollei 35!! 😊🤙🏼

  • @sebastam2603
    @sebastam2603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving it!!

  • @KylerSteele
    @KylerSteele 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great tip. I found for those unique occasions that its best to remember where your infinity is on you lens as well as the minimum focus distance

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      @troyblaine370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @beniciosterling5043 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @gewglesux
    @gewglesux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah man I'm going to try this this weekend!
    Thanks.

  • @bngr_bngr
    @bngr_bngr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I used zone focusing when I first started taking pictures but my interest led me to sports photography. I mastered manual focusing very quickly. This was before autofocus technology ;)

  • @aaronstaana
    @aaronstaana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    subbed! I'm new to film, I went out last Tuesday and took about 7/36 shots, I'm so noob the film didn't even move. Too bad buuut got it working now, will try again the next time I leave the confines of my space haha. I learned a lot with your sunny 16 vids. Can't thank you enough for that. Cheers!

  • @Benjaminjohansson93
    @Benjaminjohansson93 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man, super helpful. Always wondered how people can be so fast while Street photographing and nail focus, so i guess this is how! Thanks!

  • @benjhaisch
    @benjhaisch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude. You’re almost to 100k 🙌🏼

  • @user-pd8fs3eb6z
    @user-pd8fs3eb6z 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video, you make focusing look so easy.

  • @utubephil100
    @utubephil100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well explained - many thanks !

  • @magxuretah1029
    @magxuretah1029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the tips

  • @Proph14
    @Proph14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good! Thank you

  • @FerrisThomas
    @FerrisThomas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would it be correct to say that you shouldn't expect tack-sharp focus? I get the gist of mid- to high-aperature settings allowing for greater depths to appear in focus, but isn't it just that there's a wider gradient of slightly-to-very-to-genuinely in focus content based on their depth/distance from the focal plane?

  • @hisgallery
    @hisgallery 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for your some upload videos to your channels, more need to learn coming from you. As always minolta gang....

  • @trilheptal
    @trilheptal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info man! Suscribed

  • @Pikkakikka
    @Pikkakikka หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You for sharing!

  • @michaelmast_nomadicthrive
    @michaelmast_nomadicthrive ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super helpful

  • @walcineybarbosa
    @walcineybarbosa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you very much, great video
    i recently got an old petri 7s II and the framing guides/focus guide are too faded to see, i will practice this method on my digital first

  • @mikethomas1073
    @mikethomas1073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video (& for shooting film!). I am waiting on a few Russian rangefinders to play with but got an odd camera today with zone focus scale only. No distance, just "Close-ups", "Groups", & " Scenes". Might head to the city tomorrow and shoot a roll of B&W. I have one of those Keks light meters on order. How is it compared to the Voigtlander at half the price? Thanks again!

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the how-to video.
    I have no problems tactile zone focusing with my 35mm lens on my Leica bodies. However, I do have problems with my other Leica lenses and with my other cameras. I probably just need to practice more with them.

  • @julian.km85
    @julian.km85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx man.

  • @psychoanima
    @psychoanima 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You forgot to talk about aperature for zone focusing. This technique is useless if someone is using fully open aperature.I expect you will explain to the guys how to do zone metering drawn on the lens

    • @jmtphotographymedia
      @jmtphotographymedia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Its not useless it just means your zone will be very small with an open apeture (i.e f1.4-2.8 small zone vs f5.6-11 big zone)

  • @davidbrighten2572
    @davidbrighten2572 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question - when mounting M lenses on an adaptor (for Fuji in this case), is the distance scale thrown off by the thickness of the adaptor? I find my M lenses don’t focus at infinity properly. Thanks

  • @thacabanas4253
    @thacabanas4253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have tips for a KS super II? i just got one, my first analog. I mean, i had a Lomo la Sardina but it doesn't count haha! :) Thanks!

  • @joseuribe430
    @joseuribe430 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    try hyper-focal focusing. Its more forgiving than Zone focusing

  • @deemdoubleu
    @deemdoubleu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome

  • @hollywoodheiner6028
    @hollywoodheiner6028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I like the idea of zone focusing but the thing is, it only works well at f16 and f11. Maybe also f8 but then it gets more critical to estimate the distance to your subject correctly. So yea, for street photography you probably don’t want go go below f8 but in cloudy, rainy areas of Europe that‘s not always possible 😅

    • @UglyCameras
      @UglyCameras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try scale focusing by feel. Jae Rose made a video about it recently. You can get down to f/2.8 or f/4 with a 35mm or 28mm lens.
      Back when I did street, I did a variation based on framing (full length, 3/4, and above waist length) in both horizontal and vertical orientations. It’s a lot easier to mentally tie the framing you want with a physical (unnumbered) distance than trying to get good at telling how many meters away everything is and where you should pull the focus tab for that distance.

    • @atroche1978
      @atroche1978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You guys over there have to buy 800-3200 film. Or push some 400 if your camera permits.

    • @ducly3078
      @ducly3078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He didn't mention enough about the f stop setting and iso Glad you guys mentioned it here.

  • @certs743
    @certs743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I first learned how to do this with a 1950s Voightlander Vito.

  • @samue1991
    @samue1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have any tips for setting shutter speed/aperture when you're zone focusing? I'm newer to photography and doing this quickly is what I struggle with the most

    • @walcineybarbosa
      @walcineybarbosa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8.0 on aperture gives u a good start

  • @hannajessamalicdem1402
    @hannajessamalicdem1402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can someone help me. Is this also applicable for a canonet QL17 with a 45mm lens?

  • @channamasala
    @channamasala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the influence of aperture?

  • @heres_the_sauce
    @heres_the_sauce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    f/8 and be there!

    • @imjasonennis3624
      @imjasonennis3624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@namaste597 old journo motto. Lens zone focused at f/8 and be in an interesting place.

  • @vc6218
    @vc6218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how is this zone focusing? I thought it depends on your f/stop?

  • @Yanidschare
    @Yanidschare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you explain which aperture you are using in zone focusing please? Thanks a lot

    • @Hush99
      @Hush99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's using f16

  • @charlesrankin6768
    @charlesrankin6768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, 79 just got M8, the video help me understand. 07/8/2022.

  • @tjmanou6422
    @tjmanou6422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what about if you want to shoot wide open?

  • @yunluo4080
    @yunluo4080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question 🙋‍♀️: how to get the right exposure when using zone focusing? 🙏🏼( shutterspeed ?)

    • @benjamintan7294
      @benjamintan7294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Use the sunny 16 rule to get correct exposure! KingJvpes has a vid on it as well, have a look for it on his channel.

  • @thelostnegatives
    @thelostnegatives 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the 3 point system is helpful for me cus my Konica c35v only had 4 focus modes, 3 feet, 5 feet, 10 feet, and infinity😭

  • @JJ-gm4ck
    @JJ-gm4ck 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how do you know how many feet your subject is away from you without a tape measure?

  • @damonson3614
    @damonson3614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this. I’m kind of forced to learn this method because my rangefinder patch is missing lol.

  • @CrueLoaf
    @CrueLoaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surely a lens is not at it's optimum performance at f16. Leica's are superb wide open. f8 is OK, I would be wary of f16. Do you find it works well? What ISO would you need at f16 because you might get camera shake or movement blur?

  • @ribsy
    @ribsy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great explanation. i really need a tab on my lens - is this something you can buy for non leica lenses?

  • @Dragsterkazan
    @Dragsterkazan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Чувак, спасибо за объяснение. Недавно купил Yashica FX-3 Super 2000 и не понимаю, как попасть в точный фокус при f-1.7 Репетира диафрагмы на фотоаппарате нет)

    • @messiaheugene
      @messiaheugene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      На f1.7 практически никак) все что объясняет автор уместно для диафрагм f8-f16. На открытых диафрагмах нужно наводиться вручную через видоискатель

  • @emotivemulsion
    @emotivemulsion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Am I crazy or are your fire alarms chirping

    • @lrrowley
      @lrrowley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol it's been going on in his videos for months. Definitely not crazy

    • @godscola
      @godscola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's honestly so irritating... tons of people have mentioned it, but he refuses to do anything about it.

    • @emotivemulsion
      @emotivemulsion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@godscola just irresponsible really

  • @patrickyoung2151
    @patrickyoung2151 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yashica gang rise up!

  • @nastropc
    @nastropc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why go to infinity focus rather than hyperfocal distance?

    • @filmbyhari
      @filmbyhari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because with hyperfocal, you get much more depth of field, both in front and behind your subject. You don't need to focus at infinity to get infinity in focus, if that makes sense...

  • @bcegerton
    @bcegerton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can maybe use this scale on my Pentax ( first 35mm SLR ) but could I use it on my Fuji XT3?

    • @Benjaminjohansson93
      @Benjaminjohansson93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on what lens you are using on the Fuji but i guess not unless you have a lens with the focusing scale on the lens. Not sure how if not.

    • @bcegerton
      @bcegerton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Benjaminjohansson93 Yes, unless I marked it out, not something I want to do. I’ll leave it for my 35mm

    • @Benjaminjohansson93
      @Benjaminjohansson93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bcegerton or maybe if you get an adapter and use old lenses 😁 ive tried it on my Fuji with old konica lenses, works great!

    • @bcegerton
      @bcegerton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Benjaminjohansson93 Thanks for that, been wondering which lenses would fit, just no idea when it comes to adapters

    • @Benjaminjohansson93
      @Benjaminjohansson93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bcegerton you can find adapters to pretty much any old lenses. Just Google the name of the lens mount of the old lens to Fuji x (for example "konica ar to Fuji x"). The adapters are pretty cheap. The konica lenses are good and cheap, there are probably better ones but im happy with the results!

  • @nilzthorbo5437
    @nilzthorbo5437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly: i can't hear this "squarespace" shit anymore :D

  • @jonfassnacht9309
    @jonfassnacht9309 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video but it looks like you are at f16 what I'd your light isn't that good and you have to be at like f5

  • @mr_cramberry
    @mr_cramberry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought you were gonna sell your summicron from the previous video. Or was that click bait?

    • @kokioi8640
      @kokioi8640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even if that's the case, why do you even care.....?? It's none of your business lol

    • @Lavi-Aemilia-Astori
      @Lavi-Aemilia-Astori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kokioi8640 he just asked, what are you mad about lmao

    • @kokioi8640
      @kokioi8640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori and I just gave my opinion lmao

    • @mr_cramberry
      @mr_cramberry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @kuka. Well given that he personally discusses about purchases and makes recommendations to viewers who are watching for his review its disingenuous to say something but does the opposite..
      Anyway whatever floats your boat lol.

    • @kokioi8640
      @kokioi8640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr_cramberry "disingenuous to say something but does the opposite.." Are you upset that he has changed his mind? LOL how childish you have to be to say that LMAO

  • @sarj8164
    @sarj8164 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tips

  • @SISSI_LU
    @SISSI_LU 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    FIRSTTTT

  • @dali3091
    @dali3091 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    actual video starts at 4:42

  • @Ultimateteam-ls1ly
    @Ultimateteam-ls1ly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you live in cloudy Belgium and you have to shoot at 1/125 f 1.8 at ISO 100 even in the middle of the day

    • @atroche1978
      @atroche1978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You gotta get yourself some 3200 speed film man.

  • @genobambino
    @genobambino ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry to be a grammar cop but the better word might be “reactive” rather than “reactionary.” Good stuff though. Only video I’ve seen that deals with the three-ranges idea.

  • @maxbashyrov5785
    @maxbashyrov5785 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not 'acceptable focus' (focus is either achieved or not), but 'acceptable sharpness'.

  • @trapchannel822
    @trapchannel822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude went from sleep walk to this

  • @kumimukimu
    @kumimukimu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I wish I could do this with my camera, unfortunately it’s not a leica

    • @Benjaminjohansson93
      @Benjaminjohansson93 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesnt really matter if its a leica. As long as you have the scale visable on the lens if i understand it correctly. Ofc its easier with a rangefinder at least since you have a shorter focus span

    • @atroche1978
      @atroche1978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can do this with any lens. Having scale marks will definitely help you understand how it works though. Since my Nikon modern lenses don't have any markings, it wasn't until I got back into shooting film as an adult that it started to make sense.

    • @kumimukimu
      @kumimukimu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atroche1978​ ​@benjamin Johannson
      I know guys, was just making a silly joke about the title

  • @ferv5470
    @ferv5470 ปีที่แล้ว

    Working with old non rangefinder cameras you use it all the time. Simple and efficient most of those lenses are not fast anyway😂.

  • @BobACNJ
    @BobACNJ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's called Range Focusing.

  • @Bigbluebobaboy
    @Bigbluebobaboy ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, but add metrics. Feets are sus.

  • @--.--
    @--.-- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your introduction is too long, so many references to other videos, asking to subscribe twice in a row... Just get to the point wth!