@@lancerchoate3342 I'm new to the JW. Is like ... What are y'all talking about? What suffering 🤣 what cult !? Nobody forces anyone to do anything, in the Bible the rules and commandments are clear. You're angry the JW take the Bible SERIOUSLY unless other organizations
Really everything revolves around the judicial process. It’s much more invasive and abusive than any legal system anywhere else in the world. It doesn’t report crimes to authorities when they would help protect the rest of their communities. And they keep a lot of secrets in books you aren’t allowed to see, for example, the Elder’s manual. Suicide rates are very high for people in the organization, much higher than can really ever be acceptable. All that aside though, I think freedom of religious seeking should be a human right. To be born one of Jehovah’s witnesses is to never get to choose a belief system for yourself. Tbh I don’t have too much of a problem with people wanting to join because their own beliefs align, but if your beliefs don’t align, even in one single way, you can be maligned, shamed, and shunned, which has disastrous psychological effects on people.
@@derekmaverick5986 then they can leave...but any religious adult will have children born into the adult's religion and they can choose to leave when they are older. Any belief works this way, religious, political, or moral.
@ most other modern day belief systems don’t necessitates systematic shunning of members who decide to disagree. Sure, people can choose not to talk to someone they don’t align with, but it’s the choice they make before god, for only themselves, or at most, their family. JWs bake it into policy, so that if you get any funny ideas about not shunning someone, they can remind you that you’ll be next to be shunned if you don’t. Even if it’s someone you brought into the world. Even if it’s someone who still loves god. Committing to this belief system makes you intensely vulnerable. There already has to be an element of trust between faith leader and parishioner, but JWs demand you trust without fail, even when their perspective flies in the face of centuries of theology, and there is no room for discussion in the doctrine. The governing body decides, the Jehovahs witnesses do, and expressing anything other than appreciation for the arrangement would be met with caution and control. This would be fine if they were as upstanding and correct as they claim, but they’ve proven many times to not be faithful in what is little, or in what is much. To make yourself so vulnerable to people like that without researching their origins or their intentions is shocking to me, and I hope the people who do it manage to see the truth eventually.
Welcome to the conversation! It's great that you're exploring your faith, but many of us here are sharing personal experiences from years inside the organization. For some, it felt restrictive or harmful because of shunning, discouragement of higher education, and control over personal decisions. While the Bible’s teachings are central, it’s also important to ask if the organization’s rules truly align with scripture-or if they go beyond it. Keep learning, questioning, and thinking critically.
My family was Jehovah’s Witnesses growing up and some still are I went to some Kingdom Hall Sunday Services until I was about 16 and I stopped believing in religion altogether.
Next topic po sana yung mga nagpapartake ng m3morial bat dumadami sila sabi noon way back 2009 kumokonti na raw mga pupunta sa langit na nabubuhay indikasyon na malapit na ang katapusan bat ngayon andami na nila
R O M A N S O N E 4get the old book, I clearly break the laws myself but, I know it's wrong no doubt about it. I know it's hard with modern view points to know what's expedient. Repression is Freudian therefore not of God, replace repression with discipline. There fixed it for you.
Great video! People need to be aware and shouldn’t downplay how we suffered and were traumatized in this cult because of this subject.
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I'm new to the JW. Is like ... What are y'all talking about? What suffering 🤣 what cult !? Nobody forces anyone to do anything, in the Bible the rules and commandments are clear. You're angry the JW take the Bible SERIOUSLY unless other organizations
Really everything revolves around the judicial process. It’s much more invasive and abusive than any legal system anywhere else in the world. It doesn’t report crimes to authorities when they would help protect the rest of their communities. And they keep a lot of secrets in books you aren’t allowed to see, for example, the Elder’s manual.
Suicide rates are very high for people in the organization, much higher than can really ever be acceptable.
All that aside though, I think freedom of religious seeking should be a human right. To be born one of Jehovah’s witnesses is to never get to choose a belief system for yourself. Tbh I don’t have too much of a problem with people wanting to join because their own beliefs align, but if your beliefs don’t align, even in one single way, you can be maligned, shamed, and shunned, which has disastrous psychological effects on people.
@@derekmaverick5986 then they can leave...but any religious adult will have children born into the adult's religion and they can choose to leave when they are older. Any belief works this way, religious, political, or moral.
@ most other modern day belief systems don’t necessitates systematic shunning of members who decide to disagree. Sure, people can choose not to talk to someone they don’t align with, but it’s the choice they make before god, for only themselves, or at most, their family. JWs bake it into policy, so that if you get any funny ideas about not shunning someone, they can remind you that you’ll be next to be shunned if you don’t. Even if it’s someone you brought into the world. Even if it’s someone who still loves god.
Committing to this belief system makes you intensely vulnerable. There already has to be an element of trust between faith leader and parishioner, but JWs demand you trust without fail, even when their perspective flies in the face of centuries of theology, and there is no room for discussion in the doctrine. The governing body decides, the Jehovahs witnesses do, and expressing anything other than appreciation for the arrangement would be met with caution and control. This would be fine if they were as upstanding and correct as they claim, but they’ve proven many times to not be faithful in what is little, or in what is much. To make yourself so vulnerable to people like that without researching their origins or their intentions is shocking to me, and I hope the people who do it manage to see the truth eventually.
Welcome to the conversation! It's great that you're exploring your faith, but many of us here are sharing personal experiences from years inside the organization. For some, it felt restrictive or harmful because of shunning, discouragement of higher education, and control over personal decisions.
While the Bible’s teachings are central, it’s also important to ask if the organization’s rules truly align with scripture-or if they go beyond it. Keep learning, questioning, and thinking critically.
My family was Jehovah’s Witnesses growing up and some still are I went to some Kingdom Hall Sunday Services until I was about 16 and I stopped believing in religion altogether.
Next topic po sana yung mga nagpapartake ng m3morial bat dumadami sila sabi noon way back 2009 kumokonti na raw mga pupunta sa langit na nabubuhay indikasyon na malapit na ang katapusan bat ngayon andami na nila
What is the current belief of JWs on masterbation?
R O M A N S O N E 4get the old book, I clearly break the laws myself but, I know it's wrong no doubt about it. I know it's hard with modern view points to know what's expedient. Repression is Freudian therefore not of God, replace repression with discipline. There fixed it for you.
Content suggestion: Jehovah’s witnesses cartoon series "Become Jehovah’s friend".