That.....was.....amazing. You just saved me from having to replace a 30 year old (but great condition) Kinetico system that's in the house I just bought. Nobody in the area will touch it so it was either figure it out myself or replace it. Thanks for taking the time!
Thanks to your video I just changed my resin on my Series 60. I have been meaning to do it for a couple years now. I bought it used maybe 12 years ago. It was probably 3-4 years old then. Last couple years 1 tank was soft and other tank was not soft. I have been putting it off and off. A couple weeks ago I ordered my resin on the jungle site. It was way cheaper to buy two 1.0 cu.ft bags than the 1.4 cu. ft kit that sellers are selling. It really was easy and I should have done it a log time ago but now it's done. I'm on the regen as I write this. Thanks again!
Excellent instructional video. Was just quoted 500.00 to rebuild the head or over 3000.00 recommended to replace everything because it was 15 years old.
Awesome information! I also recently serviced our Kinetico softener. We used a product called "Super Iron Out" to improve the vacuum pull on the softener. It worked! This is a step I'd guess to try before replacing the resin beads..which I would have done given your guidance.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, it sure took the mystery out of changing the tank resin. Now I need to look at cleaning the control head video, my unit leaks out the drain tube after regen. I think the valve inside might have some crud keeping it from closing completely. Thanks again
Thank you for the video, sir!! Can you please tell me how long the regen cycle last for? My transparent top cover of the cycles control isn’t so transparent anymore. So, it’s a guessing game where it’s at…I just push down, turn until I feel the resistance, click and water flush sounds. 🤷🏻 Is changing the top section of the dial parts more difficult than the rest? And would I have to call Kinetico for those parts? Thank you so much for you video, much appreciated
Regen cycle takes around 30 minutes on larger ones, less on smaller ones. The top section with the dial parts show up on ebay. Just make sure you get one from the same model as yours. They all look the same, but have different gear ratios to compensate for the different volumes depending on the model.
Thank You ! I'm about to do battle with my 1986 K-30 so it's nice to know what I'm up against w/o buying someones ebay video. Hopefully I can find a way to get any parts. Question ? are all resins the same or is any ones better
I had no clue you could do this. I have an ancient model 60. It came with the house my wife and I got a couple years ago. I’m 32 and this thing is probably older than me. Occasionally it makes our pipes rattle. I’ve gotta try this.
I have a kinetico model 60 water softener it’s 23 + years old. What resin would you recommend to use in there. Thank you in advance. I’ve watched your videos good job explaining
I have a question, maybe you can answer... I have torn apart the head/controller on my tank, cleaned it all out, and double checked everything in it. There are no blockages anywhere, but the connection that is supposed to suck from the brine tank has little to no suction at all in one cycle, and in another cycle, it actually leaks a bit of water out of it. Is it possible that my two tanks may be filled with enough sludge and crap that they would stop the suction from working or do you think it's a problem with my head/controller? Thanks for any help you might be able to offer.
I think over time the 4 big valves stop sealing like they should and that causes problems.Mine was not working well last week and constantly dripping out the exhaust between cycles. I took it all apart again, cleaned everything and it seems to be working again. I think as they age, they become more and more finicky. I am in no way an expert on them.
Good video… and is it special resins for Kinteko water or your can use any kind resin. Thank you …. It will be more helpful if put the link where did get the resins!
Look up how a water softener works. The salt in the brine sticks to the resin and the hardness in the water sticks to the salt. They call it ion exchange. The unit back flushes to clean the trapped hardness out and new salt brine is injected to recharge the resin beads. There are supposed to be different quality of beads. North American vs Chinese are said to be better. If I remember correctly 10% cross-linked are the best.
Any issues with the mechanical portions of the unit? Gaskets, o-rings, etc in the head unit breaking? I see there are potentially lots of little points of failure after seeing the head unit taken apart.
The only problems I have ever had with the head unit are occasional foulups caused by tiny bits of debris plugging the little passages in it. Aside from that it has worked perfectly for 20 years. Watch my latest video to see dealing with debris and a crack. th-cam.com/video/q8jHZw9JWgg/w-d-xo.html
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How has softened water worked out for you? Has the taste improved, is there a taste at all? I know there's reverse osmosis but that's another topic. And thanks for yet another in-depth video! Now I at least have an idea of what it takes to recharge my system!
It works well. I also have a R-O system that makes great drinking water.
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@@ClaremontClassicGarage Hey Claremont; I noticed you used flex lines for your manifold build too. I'm thinking of doing the same. What hose did you use? My local big box store only have lines with 3/4 ends but the hose itself is MUCH smaller and likely would be a choke point for whole house water delivery.
@ They are 3/4 hoses. I got them at Home Depot. (20 years ago}
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@@ClaremontClassicGarage do they still have a P/N on them? Or is it simply heater tank hoses (I noticed heater tank hoses seemingly do have a true 3/4 throughput)
I ordered it online from a local water system place. Can't remember the name of it, but it was just the standard stuff. Tax delivery in it was less than $200.
We changed resin of 40 yr old kinetico. Had lots of touble realighing & reattaching head to unit -it still leaks at the top. Suggestions? The old resin was totally black goo!
You have to make sure its perfectly straight and that no stray bits of the media get into the seal. Worst case you make need a new seal. If it has been crossthreaded you may never get it sealed up.
Most likely problems in the control head. There are tiny little passages that get easily plugged. Also, you need to make sure you have the little pawls and springs all together properly or the discs won't advance and it will keep running forever.
Just had the same issue I had taken the head apart but the screen was clogged and I needed to blow out with an air compressor and also the gasket was not seating right and the drain plug rubber caps were not all the way on from separating the level 5 off.
Great video, however I jacked something up screwing the valve head back into the primary tank and caused a leak. Now I'm worried I shaved the threads off trying to tighten it down.
It was stated that each tank takes 0.7 cu ft of resin, and you only split one bag which is 1 cu ft, just curious if that's ok ? Btw I'm about to do the same service as Kinetico wants $3600 for new tanks.
I just went back and rechecked. As stated in the video Mine takes .47 cu foot per reservoir. So my 1 cu foot bag was enough with a tad to spare. If yours is calling for .7 per res you'll need 2 bags.
That was 100% a concern when I did mine. I won't lie, there is a lot that can go wrong. If you are not comfortable tackling it yourself, farm it out. There is no shame in that.
That.....was.....amazing. You just saved me from having to replace a 30 year old (but great condition) Kinetico system that's in the house I just bought. Nobody in the area will touch it so it was either figure it out myself or replace it. Thanks for taking the time!
Our pleasure, glad it helped!
Thanks to your video I just changed my resin on my Series 60. I have been meaning to do it for a couple years now. I bought it used maybe 12 years ago. It was probably 3-4 years old then. Last couple years 1 tank was soft and other tank was not soft. I have been putting it off and off. A couple weeks ago I ordered my resin on the jungle site. It was way cheaper to buy two 1.0 cu.ft bags than the 1.4 cu. ft kit that sellers are selling. It really was easy and I should have done it a log time ago but now it's done. I'm on the regen as I write this. Thanks again!
Glad we could help!
Excellent instructional video. Was just quoted 500.00 to rebuild the head or over 3000.00 recommended to replace everything because it was 15 years old.
These things are not cheap to repair.
just got quoted $2,800 to replace resin in the two tanks and $395 to replace carbon in the 3rd. Glad I found this video
Mine's still working great since I did it. Thanks for watching!
I have a feeling I will be changing my own resin after a call to the local Kinetico dealer.
Thanks for another great how-to video!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome information! I also recently serviced our Kinetico softener. We used a product called "Super Iron Out" to improve the vacuum pull on the softener. It worked! This is a step I'd guess to try before replacing the resin beads..which I would have done given your guidance.
I tried everything before replacing the resin, but it had been in there for 20 years so I guess it was time. LOL.
Love this brand! I'm a plumber and these are the best water softener I've ever seen
Mine has been going for 23 years
BRILLIANT!!: So nice to be able to "do the job" before you do the job. Thank you very much
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for a great DIYS video. This is the video I have been trying to find for years!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, it sure took the mystery out of changing the tank resin. Now I need to look at cleaning the control head video, my unit leaks out the drain tube after regen. I think the valve inside might have some crud keeping it from closing completely. Thanks again
Glad we could help!
Now I know a whole lot more about water softeners than I did, Thanks!
You and me both. I had always just "called the guy". Now I'm the guy!
Thanks for the tip on removing the head! 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thank you -
Our local Kinetico dealer suggests we get a whole new system instead of doing maintenance ...
I prefer to keep things running...
They're there to make money. Withe premium that these things cost over a "normal" one it should last forever as far as I'm concerned.
GREAT VIDEO
Thanks for watching!
You're awesome. Very informative. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Great video! thanks for sharing, how much media/resin did you use?
There is a chart I got from Kinetico customer service that specified how much goes in the different models.
@@ClaremontClassicGarage I have a model 60, I don't know if I have a gravel bed yet.
💯💯💯💯 we gin eye ball it👀👀
Great Instructions overall
Thanks for watching!!!!
great video. To the point..... Thanks. You are a good man
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video, sir!!
Can you please tell me how long the regen cycle last for?
My transparent top cover of the cycles control isn’t so transparent anymore.
So, it’s a guessing game where it’s at…I just push down, turn until I feel the resistance, click and water flush sounds. 🤷🏻
Is changing the top section of the dial parts more difficult than the rest? And would I have to call Kinetico for those parts?
Thank you so much for you video, much appreciated
Regen cycle takes around 30 minutes on larger ones, less on smaller ones. The top section with the dial parts show up on ebay. Just make sure you get one from the same model as yours. They all look the same, but have different gear ratios to compensate for the different volumes depending on the model.
@@ClaremontClassicGarageThank you!!
@@coewhat My pleasure, thanks for watching!
Thank You ! I'm about to do battle with my 1986 K-30 so it's nice to know what I'm up against w/o buying someones ebay video. Hopefully I can find a way
to get any parts. Question ? are all resins the same or is any ones better
Thanks for watching. To my knowledge the resins are mostly similar. I bought mine online and it seems to work well.
I had no clue you could do this. I have an ancient model 60. It came with the house my wife and I got a couple years ago. I’m 32 and this thing is probably older than me. Occasionally it makes our pipes rattle. I’ve gotta try this.
They last a log time.
How much resin is needed for the model 60? I have one too.
@@gary4738 I was never able to find that information, sorry. I went with a new unit.
@@gary4738at 3:18 the manual he has said 0.7 for the 60. I too just bought a house with a k60 and I’m trying to figure it out.
I have a kinetico model 60 water softener it’s 23 + years old. What resin would you recommend to use in there. Thank you in advance. I’ve watched your videos good job explaining
Thanks for watching. I used resin that I bought online. Its was just a generic product but looked exactly the same as the stuff that was in it.
@@ClaremontClassicGarage was just wondering if it is pretty much all the same
@@ryanbachman9227 yes, I'm pretty sure it is.
I have a question, maybe you can answer... I have torn apart the head/controller on my tank, cleaned it all out, and double checked everything in it. There are no blockages anywhere, but the connection that is supposed to suck from the brine tank has little to no suction at all in one cycle, and in another cycle, it actually leaks a bit of water out of it. Is it possible that my two tanks may be filled with enough sludge and crap that they would stop the suction from working or do you think it's a problem with my head/controller?
Thanks for any help you might be able to offer.
I think over time the 4 big valves stop sealing like they should and that causes problems.Mine was not working well last week and constantly dripping out the exhaust between cycles. I took it all apart again, cleaned everything and it seems to be working again. I think as they age, they become more and more finicky. I am in no way an expert on them.
@@ClaremontClassicGarage OK, thanks for the reply!
Good video… and is it special resins for Kinteko water or your can use any kind resin. Thank you …. It will be more helpful if put the link where did get the resins!
Its just standard water softener resin. You can get it at any local water treatment place. They even have it on amazon.
Look up how a water softener works. The salt in the brine sticks to the resin and the hardness in the water sticks to the salt. They call it ion exchange. The unit back flushes to clean the trapped hardness out and new salt brine is injected to recharge the resin beads.
There are supposed to be different quality of beads. North American vs Chinese are said to be better. If I remember correctly 10% cross-linked are the best.
Any issues with the mechanical portions of the unit? Gaskets, o-rings, etc in the head unit breaking? I see there are potentially lots of little points of failure after seeing the head unit taken apart.
The only problems I have ever had with the head unit are occasional foulups caused by tiny bits of debris plugging the little passages in it. Aside from that it has worked perfectly for 20 years. Watch my latest video to see dealing with debris and a crack. th-cam.com/video/q8jHZw9JWgg/w-d-xo.html
How has softened water worked out for you? Has the taste improved, is there a taste at all?
I know there's reverse osmosis but that's another topic.
And thanks for yet another in-depth video! Now I at least have an idea of what it takes to recharge my system!
It works well. I also have a R-O system that makes great drinking water.
@@ClaremontClassicGarage Hey Claremont; I noticed you used flex lines for your manifold build too. I'm thinking of doing the same.
What hose did you use? My local big box store only have lines with 3/4 ends but the hose itself is MUCH smaller and likely would be a choke point for whole house water delivery.
@ They are 3/4 hoses. I got them at Home Depot. (20 years ago}
@@ClaremontClassicGarage do they still have a P/N on them? Or is it simply heater tank hoses (I noticed heater tank hoses seemingly do have a true 3/4 throughput)
@ There's no numbers on them that i could see.
WHat Resin did you use and how much? Love the video thanks so much - I have an old Kinetico that I want to refurbish
I ordered it online from a local water system place. Can't remember the name of it, but it was just the standard stuff. Tax delivery in it was less than $200.
Please provide info about the resin and where you ordered it from.
Its just standard resin. I got it from an online water filter place if I recall.
Excellent video, I need to do this to mine.
What would you say should be the cost to do this job from a Kinetico dealer that installed the system?
Sorry, no idea. You'd have to call them.
We changed resin of 40 yr old kinetico. Had lots of touble realighing & reattaching head to unit -it still leaks at the top. Suggestions? The old resin was totally black goo!
You have to make sure its perfectly straight and that no stray bits of the media get into the seal. Worst case you make need a new seal. If it has been crossthreaded you may never get it sealed up.
Great video, where did you pick up the resin for the kinetico I would like to try this on my system.
amazon
changed disk, after regen water is still running out drain tube. cant get the water to stop running. What would be the problem?
Most likely problems in the control head. There are tiny little passages that get easily plugged. Also, you need to make sure you have the little pawls and springs all together properly or the discs won't advance and it will keep running forever.
Just had the same issue I had taken the head apart but the screen was clogged and I needed to blow out with an air compressor and also the gasket was not seating right and the drain plug rubber caps were not all the way on from separating the level 5 off.
Great video, however I jacked something up screwing the valve head back into the primary tank and caused a leak. Now I'm worried I shaved the threads off trying to tighten it down.
Oh gosh, that doesn't sound good.
Kinetico says to use gravel on bottom, is it necessary?
mine didn't have gravel. I also have a model 50. No gravel in it either.
It was stated that each tank takes 0.7 cu ft of resin, and you only split one bag which is 1 cu ft, just curious if that's ok ? Btw I'm about to do the same service as Kinetico wants $3600 for new tanks.
I just went back and rechecked. As stated in the video Mine takes .47 cu foot per reservoir. So my 1 cu foot bag was enough with a tad to spare. If yours is calling for .7 per res you'll need 2 bags.
@@ClaremontClassicGarage, I see now yours is model 2030, mine is 2060s, so it takes 0.7, thanks
No worries, best of luck with it!
Also, can you please tell me what the brand resin you bought? Thanks
I got it online. Its all pretty much the same as far as I know.
Have a Kinetico model 2000 water softener about 20 years old. Need to change Resin but I can't find data on how much Resin to put in each cylinder?
I emailed kinetico and the sent me a chart with the resin amounts for the various models.
How can I know the level of resin for each celender??
If you contact Kinetico and tell them your model number they will tell you how much goes in. It goes by weight .
No need to add gravel to the bottom of the cylinder?
No gravel in this one. It is a Kinetico Model 30
What brand of test strips are you using? BTW, love you content. You have saved me with your videos about the Ford 8N.
The brand is TESPERT. I got them on amazon.
How do you change the meter disc?
th-cam.com/video/I3JHfSc48ro/w-d-xo.html
No gravel needed?
No gravel in these Kineticos.
@@ClaremontClassicGarage thank you
My quote was 1700.00. Not sure if I can do it myself, I don’t wanna pay that much. But don’t wanna try to and make it worse.
That was 100% a concern when I did mine. I won't lie, there is a lot that can go wrong. If you are not comfortable tackling it yourself, farm it out. There is no shame in that.