Maplestory/Nexon poisoned me because the first thing I did when I started Lost Ark and got the free pet was look somewhere for an expiration date. It's unreal how liberating it is to get daily/event rewards and not have to worry about using them before they expire within some arbitrary amount of time.
I'll probably be crucified for this one, but Lost Ark has one of the cleanest UIs for a KMMO. You can hover over a random item and know what it's for for the most part without ever searching it up, outside tidbits needed for World Tree Leaves. Also in FFXIV, you don't need to spend a single penny to level any of the classes and can do it at any time without events, and it makes mainswapping VERY easy as long as you have the levels for it. You can probably get a class from 0 to 100 in a few weeks, it's not that hard. But, class design is too streamlined and stale, as all tanks and healers play VERY similarly. Having one character in XIV means you do story only once and that's it, which can be a pro especially for western players. I don't think some viewers are "hating" on it, but moreso trying to debunk a lot of surface-level misconceptions.
My Prefekt MMO would be a Mix between the Lost Arks Artstyle Combat flashyness And Retail Wows casual friendlyness and Systems. And it runs very smooth for an old game.
In my opinion, the perfect MMO would be a game where you have easy graphics that can run on almost any computer on the market, have a mix of the WoW and FFXIV systems, the combat of a Lost Ark/Wildstar, and the raiding/telegraphing system of FFXIV as well as the UI. I personally think needing to use addons for anything you'd want in the game is a terrible system.
@@pittaaaabread i enjoyed the archeage class mixing thing and the sorta of naval combat and house/life/land experience it had. (yeye p2w we all know how it ended rip) BDO has the most sick third person combat feeling for sure. (i can't play it my pc is trash and btw tho has annoying pop up problem of grass etc) also class look and feel insane and is good point that u can solo grind (for me) i saw gunslinger new class trailer and i got shocked compared to lost ark.
i guess lost ark is the best mmo for the ""Raid Themes"" and the isometric combat feel good despite some old class. and since is different than BDO u can't rly choose a winner on that. back in the day i loved a game called rappelz because u could use pets in combat! (but other than that was pretty bad xd) imagine a game with all combined! as for art style.. it gotta be stylized for sure. even if not anime. games graphics just last way longer before starting looking old when they stylized. for example i get bored at first sight of stuff like new world graphics. idk if is just me.
Games don't respect your time. What they CAN do is avoid devaluing your time or previous achievements. Some games are better at this (gw2 with the horizontal expansion systrm) and some are worse (wow effectively discarding everything that was added each expansion, as well as getting easier if you are eillijg to just wait)
I guess this applies to GW2, which is only buy once to play (no subs) and there is so much content that focuses on horizontal progression, so you never miss anything. Once getting max power you don't progress in terms of power/gear score/stats, but you progress in other areas (lots of people hates no vertical progression).
IMO, there are VERY FEW good skins in LoA. And I wish it weren't so. BDO has, BY FAR, the best skins in an MMO. Lost ark needs more Fantasy style skins instead of the constant cutesy and casual wear skins. Where is my gian warrior armour? (besides Legendary skins)
4:07 definitely the second option. a more unique mec/raid every six month. (also give more time to prepare 2 bird one stone) than the same copy paste 2 phase design example you mention, (that can also lead to random dangerous difficulty spike "to make up" for the repetitiveness. but then ppl complain that they have nothing to do. i guess. 😮💨
I'm just curious, how is WoW p2w. There is no way that character progression can be achieved with the swipe of a credit card unless you are paying for a carry or "bus" to get the drops from the raid. Five man mythic+ can't be carried on the high end.
i think another HUGE pro of wow is the casual friendliness, if youre not interested in M+/raids/pvp, you can always do heroic/m0 dungeons, delves, farm mounts and transmog, do pet battles, overworld content (world quests, sidequests, dragon riding contests, etc.), they even introduced a story mode raid where you can experience the raid with AI companions. even if you dont do endgame content, you can sink an infinite amount of time into wow without getting bored.
This is very sobering stuff for someone like me who never enjoyed or had much respect for MMO’s as a genre before I tried out Lost Ark haha. Still a bit of an outsider looking in but it’s making sense why I’ve enjoyed my time with some of the more niche titles even if they’re more flawed (main contributor is being F2P, that shit is always an excuse for them to nickel and dime players for the littlest of things, Stoopzz is on crack for not putting that as a con)
I rather play Gw2 has it respects the time i invest, no p2w, community is amazing, raids/strikes/fractals are challenging, combat is good but could use some upgrade, easy to hop in.
yea my mom had some heart pills and she loves grapefruits.. it was a bad time, thank god it wans't to late for her. and my gf with her pills are also countert by them
it hurts my eyes watching WoW and F14, like what hell is this clusterfuck of UI and horrible combat, speaking from a boomer as well. LA is too superior in term of contents + combat to other MMO. However, the p2w aspect and obnoxious progression kill it.
If lost ark had FFXIV’s class system I would enjoy it a lot more. I REALLLLY hate alts. So as nice as LoA is aesthetically, I just can’t play it anymore. 2k hours well spent tho. Enjoyed it.
@@Ecksplisit if it make you feel better, .i play 4 chars only, probably 10-15 hours max per week (daily + full raids), and still manage to get all 4 to brelz (hm + nm). it's not that bad, and the game is entertaining
@vipr0359 I would much much much rather have bots and rmt than have the devs purposefully make a game that has dogshit features for the average player to reduce rmt and bots. It's not even a fucking question
Maplestory/Nexon poisoned me because the first thing I did when I started Lost Ark and got the free pet was look somewhere for an expiration date. It's unreal how liberating it is to get daily/event rewards and not have to worry about using them before they expire within some arbitrary amount of time.
My weapons and gear not breaking or going down was a shocker to me as someone who has played at least 3-4 KMMOs.
@@TellusLS Starforcing, never again.
I'll probably be crucified for this one, but Lost Ark has one of the cleanest UIs for a KMMO. You can hover over a random item and know what it's for for the most part without ever searching it up, outside tidbits needed for World Tree Leaves.
Also in FFXIV, you don't need to spend a single penny to level any of the classes and can do it at any time without events, and it makes mainswapping VERY easy as long as you have the levels for it. You can probably get a class from 0 to 100 in a few weeks, it's not that hard. But, class design is too streamlined and stale, as all tanks and healers play VERY similarly. Having one character in XIV means you do story only once and that's it, which can be a pro especially for western players. I don't think some viewers are "hating" on it, but moreso trying to debunk a lot of surface-level misconceptions.
My Prefekt MMO would be a Mix between the Lost Arks Artstyle Combat flashyness And Retail Wows casual friendlyness and Systems. And it runs very smooth for an old game.
I hope you're being sarcastic, no way that's your actual desire you sick bastard.
In my opinion, the perfect MMO would be a game where you have easy graphics that can run on almost any computer on the market, have a mix of the WoW and FFXIV systems, the combat of a Lost Ark/Wildstar, and the raiding/telegraphing system of FFXIV as well as the UI. I personally think needing to use addons for anything you'd want in the game is a terrible system.
@@pittaaaabread " easy graphics " no thanks
@@pittaaaabread i enjoyed the archeage class mixing thing
and the sorta of naval combat and house/life/land experience it had. (yeye p2w we all know how it ended rip)
BDO has the most sick third person combat feeling for sure. (i can't play it my pc is trash and btw tho has annoying pop up problem of grass etc)
also class look and feel insane
and is good point that u can solo grind (for me)
i saw gunslinger new class trailer and i got shocked compared to lost ark.
i guess lost ark is the best mmo for the ""Raid Themes""
and the isometric combat feel good despite some old class.
and since is different than BDO u can't rly choose a winner on that.
back in the day i loved a game called rappelz because u could use pets in combat! (but other than that was pretty bad xd)
imagine a game with all combined!
as for art style.. it gotta be stylized for sure. even if not anime.
games graphics just last way longer before starting looking old when they stylized.
for example i get bored at first sight of stuff like new world graphics. idk if is just me.
And screw off with the awful p2w, and awful amount of bots that have basically destroyed the economy of the game.
Which MMO respects my time?
The one you don't play.
No entertainment "respects your time" until you consider that it doesn't. For other people, videogames as a whole are a waste of time.
Games don't respect your time. What they CAN do is avoid devaluing your time or previous achievements. Some games are better at this (gw2 with the horizontal expansion systrm) and some are worse (wow effectively discarding everything that was added each expansion, as well as getting easier if you are eillijg to just wait)
I guess this applies to GW2, which is only buy once to play (no subs) and there is so much content that focuses on horizontal progression, so you never miss anything. Once getting max power you don't progress in terms of power/gear score/stats, but you progress in other areas (lots of people hates no vertical progression).
ff14
IMO, there are VERY FEW good skins in LoA. And I wish it weren't so. BDO has, BY FAR, the best skins in an MMO.
Lost ark needs more Fantasy style skins instead of the constant cutesy and casual wear skins.
Where is my gian warrior armour? (besides Legendary skins)
4:07 definitely the second option. a more unique mec/raid every six month. (also give more time to prepare 2 bird one stone)
than the same copy paste 2 phase design example you mention, (that can also lead to random dangerous difficulty spike "to make up" for the repetitiveness.
but then ppl complain that they have nothing to do. i guess. 😮💨
I'm just curious, how is WoW p2w. There is no way that character progression can be achieved with the swipe of a credit card unless you are paying for a carry or "bus" to get the drops from the raid. Five man mythic+ can't be carried on the high end.
valtan is the only raid where i have fun
Based
i think another HUGE pro of wow is the casual friendliness, if youre not interested in M+/raids/pvp, you can always do heroic/m0 dungeons, delves, farm mounts and transmog, do pet battles, overworld content (world quests, sidequests, dragon riding contests, etc.), they even introduced a story mode raid where you can experience the raid with AI companions. even if you dont do endgame content, you can sink an infinite amount of time into wow without getting bored.
FF14 is the same exact way too!
WoW casual contents are goated. The transmogs you get from outdoor contents and quests are absolutely beautiful.
I tried them all and lost ark is light years better than the other games. People need to wake up
This is very sobering stuff for someone like me who never enjoyed or had much respect for MMO’s as a genre before I tried out Lost Ark haha. Still a bit of an outsider looking in but it’s making sense why I’ve enjoyed my time with some of the more niche titles even if they’re more flawed (main contributor is being F2P, that shit is always an excuse for them to nickel and dime players for the littlest of things, Stoopzz is on crack for not putting that as a con)
ff big big con is the server ticks.. you dodge something but its not on the server tick, you die. dots and dps are counted in there too..
GW2 from NCSoft is a KMMO anomaly, and I'm glad for it
Probably because NCsoft is publishing the game, not developing it. That's Arenanet which is not a korean developer.
Arenanet developers are not from Korea.
Thrones is no longer pvp centric, you mainly do co op trials for runes, it's hell
I rather play Gw2 has it respects the time i invest, no p2w, community is amazing, raids/strikes/fractals are challenging, combat is good but could use some upgrade, easy to hop in.
I don't know if WoW is still popular or not. It's pretty dead in my country.. Maybe it's an America thing?
it became more popular since tww launched worldwide lol and chinese player got their servers back again.
Its actually insane how unbiased you were in your takes and I dont mean this sarcastically
Maplestory boss prequests are complete ass and Nexon ruined a ton of good private servers by suing them
BNS best combat
hope you banned the guy that send the loud orange. Woke me up wtf
What bot managment? The game is overun with bots, that's like 90% of the game population, lol and the economy is gross.
yea my mom had some heart pills and she loves grapefruits.. it was a bad time, thank god it wans't to late for her.
and my gf with her pills are also countert by them
it hurts my eyes watching WoW and F14, like what hell is this clusterfuck of UI and horrible combat, speaking from a boomer as well. LA is too superior in term of contents + combat to other MMO. However, the p2w aspect and obnoxious progression kill it.
20 years old games, both are outdated. Thats all
If lost ark had FFXIV’s class system I would enjoy it a lot more. I REALLLLY hate alts. So as nice as LoA is aesthetically, I just can’t play it anymore. 2k hours well spent tho. Enjoyed it.
@@Ecksplisit if it make you feel better, .i play 4 chars only, probably 10-15 hours max per week (daily + full raids), and still manage to get all 4 to brelz (hm + nm). it's not that bad, and the game is entertaining
"Lost ark syndrome"
Get better Mr.Stoopzz .
Game u play with your wallet xd , a shame. couldv been a hit , but well .money hungry crap company
I feel like FF14 has the same type of end game for WoW, might not be as extended but I do feel like its similar enough to have them in the same boat
absolutely insane that the hyper restrictive economy wasn't even brought up in the cons section of bdo
It's what prevents RMT and bots. Lost Ark would have benefited from a economy like that
@vipr0359 I would much much much rather have bots and rmt than have the devs purposefully make a game that has dogshit features for the average player to reduce rmt and bots. It's not even a fucking question
Positive for a lot of people tbh.
maplestory con: Nex (om) n