The new series and some recent short stories (father of the Daleks and the third wise man) have my preferred post-remembrance Davros characterization. He doesn’t want to be emperor anymore. He just wants to be with his “children” as their father, chasing a love for him they do not and cannot possess
"Would your precious humans allow themselves to be led by one of their ancestors? A simian creature at the head of their armies?" "No, I don't suppose they would..." "The Daleks do not need a relic. They need a god."
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 It’s from Restoration of the Daleks, the last part of the Time War 4 audio collection with Paul McGann. One of Big Finish’s absolute best works in my opinion. Davros and the Eighth Doctor are both amazing throughout, and the Dalek Time Strategist gives an absolute masterclass in being a hyper competent villain. This line in particular is the Time Strategist explaining very neatly why the Daleks should have a problem with Davros running the show. The whole collection is full of great lines though, totally recommend it.
I came up with a concept for a story where Daleks grow sick of Davros and attempt to erase him completely from the timeline an replace him with a "Proto-Dalek" (I imagine the Dalek Eternal in this role) as the creator of the Daleks.
Neat I like to imagine a story where there's no doubt Rasta no Emperor around and a fleet of darlex needing order so desperately decide to try to make the doctor their new leader
TL;DR: the Dalek must have major daddy issues at this point. Davros is like an incubation tank, like egg shells from which the dalek race hatched. At least that's how I imagine they view him without any bartering or mind control. By his design the Daleks should have no reverence for davros yet he continues to put them in situations where they must show fealty. Davros will never be the true dalek emperor, he's the daleks curse, their shackles.
Awesome! I always preferred to Dalek Emperor (from Evil Of The Daleks) to Davros. Also I wonder if you could do a video of what happened to the Thals on Skaro during Remembrance?
Considering the even at his darkest moments the doctor is still trying to save people like the War Doctor Who literally is attempting to not be the doctor still ends up acting like the doctor I don't think 7 would have killed them no matter how dark he is so my guess is either they they f***** off and let the daleks getting the planet or they were exterminated
I assume the Thals were extinct by the time of the Dalek Civil War, at least on Skaro. Some may have existed elsewhere (like we see in Planet of the Daleks) as diaspora but they were certainly limited in numbers and of no concern to the Daleks.
I always just always thought davros was just trying to hard to be the emperor, but the daleks just sort of allowed him to think that and then go to do there own thing
I think the more time went one he list his mind and became completely insane then after and during journeys end he is completely insane no longer just an evil scientist he started as
I haven't listened to Terror Firma, but I vaguely remember a clip where Davros mentioned a clone. Assuming the clone survived that story, could the Davros Emperor have had Davros' mind extracted and placed within the clone, who ultimately became the Davros seen in The Stolen Earth? Additional idea: What if the Davros seen in the Witch's Familiar isn't the Davros that faced the Nightmare Child, but instead the Davros created by the Dalek Time Strategist?
The Dalek Eternal popped in ... took his robotic hand with it's plunger and exclaimed "Emergency Temporal Shift!" ... the Eternal then dumped Davros on Skaro and went off to do something else.
F*** you that how I think he was dead before the time War because of the same reason I think the evil of the Daleks emperor is The Parting of the ways version. Rassilon was dead or in stasis whatever and he was brought back the master had finally burned through his body and he was brought back and the doctor died and The Sisterhood of Khan brought him back remember in Night of the doctor he just straight-up f****** died no regeneration they used Voodoo to resurrect him This is unrelated to the question I'm just sharing a common theme in the time war of death can go f*** himself
There's always a paradox with the Daleks' relationship with Davros. They see him as inferior due to how he designed them and yet the Daleks wouldn't exist (or at least wouldn't have as narrow-minded a viewpoint) had he not genetically engineered them. Then again, the Nazis have always been the party of contradictions so we shouldn't be surprised
I have a question unrelated to this but could you do a video about the bit in Journeys end when Dalek caan said “I decreed ‘No More’” did he he mean when the war doctor shot No More into the wall or actually stopping to declare to the daleks
With the more recent BF, davros TV stories, they tend to ignore Terror firma, so I don't count that at all in my head cannon. Also, there is another static emperor. In we are the daleks, the daleks are meant to be the imperial daleks. So they have rebuilt skaro, after remembrance, have an emperor and new supreme council. Yet there is no mention of davros in that. We do need a proper account of davros life after remembrance as it is very confusing
Of course the First full lick of the time War probably started during the seventh doctor's era not the actual War itself but just the Calm before the storm causing time to be a bit wobbly so it could all happen and be contradictory
I want to see the doctor become leader of the Dalek somehow like some dialects are separated and need orders but there's no Emperor and there's no divert us so we have this entire Legion of Daleks and for some reason they couldn't do the classic mass murder
Damn the timelines sure do get messy around the time war. I think the Dalek Time Strategist is right, the Daleks need something greater than their creator they need a god.
Hey Dalek bumps, here’s an idea for a video, it’s called ‘who is falkus’, I saw on the doctor who wiki that this character is a clone of Davros who considers himself to be his real son. I bet he’s just as mysterious as dalek zeg or the dalek prime, so if you ever get the chance think about it.
The new series and some recent short stories (father of the Daleks and the third wise man) have my preferred post-remembrance Davros characterization. He doesn’t want to be emperor anymore. He just wants to be with his “children” as their father, chasing a love for him they do not and cannot possess
"Would your precious humans allow themselves to be led by one of their ancestors? A simian creature at the head of their armies?"
"No, I don't suppose they would..."
"The Daleks do not need a relic. They need a god."
Goodness! Where does this quote come from? It's amazing!
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 It’s from Restoration of the Daleks, the last part of the Time War 4 audio collection with Paul McGann. One of Big Finish’s absolute best works in my opinion. Davros and the Eighth Doctor are both amazing throughout, and the Dalek Time Strategist gives an absolute masterclass in being a hyper competent villain.
This line in particular is the Time Strategist explaining very neatly why the Daleks should have a problem with Davros running the show. The whole collection is full of great lines though, totally recommend it.
Yet the daleks end up needing him over & over...
I came up with a concept for a story where Daleks grow sick of Davros and attempt to erase him completely from the timeline an replace him with a "Proto-Dalek" (I imagine the Dalek Eternal in this role) as the creator of the Daleks.
Neat I like to imagine a story where there's no doubt Rasta no Emperor around and a fleet of darlex needing order so desperately decide to try to make the doctor their new leader
The alternate Davros in the Big Finish "Unbound" universe is very interesting... 🐙
TL;DR: the Dalek must have major daddy issues at this point.
Davros is like an incubation tank, like egg shells from which the dalek race hatched. At least that's how I imagine they view him without any bartering or mind control. By his design the Daleks should have no reverence for davros yet he continues to put them in situations where they must show fealty. Davros will never be the true dalek emperor, he's the daleks curse, their shackles.
Davros recreated his people in his own twisted image
@@redjirachi1indeed, and he treated them as his playthings as well
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 He enslaved what's left of his kind to his twisted ideology. Truly one of the most evil beings in the universe
There were rumours the Emperor Dalek in Evil of the Daleks was a final incarnation of Davros
I love this channel. Keep posting dude.
Awesome! I always preferred to Dalek Emperor (from Evil Of The Daleks) to Davros. Also I wonder if you could do a video of what happened to the Thals on Skaro during Remembrance?
Considering the even at his darkest moments the doctor is still trying to save people like the War Doctor Who literally is attempting to not be the doctor still ends up acting like the doctor I don't think 7 would have killed them no matter how dark he is so my guess is either they they f***** off and let the daleks getting the planet or they were exterminated
I assume the Thals were extinct by the time of the Dalek Civil War, at least on Skaro. Some may have existed elsewhere (like we see in Planet of the Daleks) as diaspora but they were certainly limited in numbers and of no concern to the Daleks.
I always just always thought davros was just trying to hard to be the emperor, but the daleks just sort of allowed him to think that and then go to do there own thing
I think, at some point between '70s or '80s stories, Davros cloned himself and every death seen has simply been one of his clones dying.
Maybe the true emperor was the friends we exterminated along the way
I thought of doing a sequel Fanfic called "Requiem of the Daleks"
Dalek Bumps is the true Emperor of The Daleks, not these two sussy imposters.
I'm going to make Doctor Who the emperor and then what are you going to do
Badwolf you have betrayed me there can only be one!! Telebot
@@emperordalek102 The Whovian Wars continues XD
@@plantainsame2049 yes it will never end!!!
Crawler! :P
Daleks vs. The Joker: who’s cheated certain death more
Davros is a just like the hood from classic Thunderbirds
After he nicked Commander Shore's hover-chair.
the true emperor is official YT
I am the true emperor
I think the more time went one he list his mind and became completely insane then after and during journeys end he is completely insane no longer just an evil scientist he started as
I haven't listened to Terror Firma, but I vaguely remember a clip where Davros mentioned a clone. Assuming the clone survived that story, could the Davros Emperor have had Davros' mind extracted and placed within the clone, who ultimately became the Davros seen in The Stolen Earth?
Additional idea: What if the Davros seen in the Witch's Familiar isn't the Davros that faced the Nightmare Child, but instead the Davros created by the Dalek Time Strategist?
How on skaro did Davros survive the destruction of the Dalek crucible???
We never found out
Force field
The Dalek Eternal popped in ... took his robotic hand with it's plunger and exclaimed "Emergency Temporal Shift!" ... the Eternal then dumped Davros on Skaro and went off to do something else.
Davros probably has an emergency temporal shift or a teleport that teleports him to an escape pod
emergency temporal shift
F*** you that how I think he was dead before the time War because of the same reason I think the evil of the Daleks emperor is The Parting of the ways version.
Rassilon was dead or in stasis whatever and he was brought back the master had finally burned through his body and he was brought back and the doctor died and The Sisterhood of Khan brought him back remember in Night of the doctor he just straight-up f****** died no regeneration they used Voodoo to resurrect him
This is unrelated to the question I'm just sharing a common theme in the time war of death can go f*** himself
Could you do a Cult of Skaro history video as they are my favourite set of Daleks.
I never miss a upload from you, your an amazing Whoviantuber 💙
Me!! I am the dalek emperor
There's always a paradox with the Daleks' relationship with Davros. They see him as inferior due to how he designed them and yet the Daleks wouldn't exist (or at least wouldn't have as narrow-minded a viewpoint) had he not genetically engineered them. Then again, the Nazis have always been the party of contradictions so we shouldn't be surprised
I have a question unrelated to this but could you do a video about the bit in Journeys end when Dalek caan said “I decreed ‘No More’” did he he mean when the war doctor shot No More into the wall or actually stopping to declare to the daleks
With the more recent BF, davros TV stories, they tend to ignore Terror firma, so I don't count that at all in my head cannon. Also, there is another static emperor. In we are the daleks, the daleks are meant to be the imperial daleks. So they have rebuilt skaro, after remembrance, have an emperor and new supreme council. Yet there is no mention of davros in that.
We do need a proper account of davros life after remembrance as it is very confusing
Of course the First full lick of the time War probably started during the seventh doctor's era not the actual War itself but just the Calm before the storm causing time to be a bit wobbly so it could all happen and be contradictory
Well
I want to see the doctor become leader of the Dalek somehow like some dialects are separated and need orders but there's no Emperor and there's no divert us so we have this entire Legion of Daleks and for some reason they couldn't do the classic mass murder
Damn the timelines sure do get messy around the time war. I think the Dalek Time Strategist is right, the Daleks need something greater than their creator they need a god.
Hey Dalek bumps, here’s an idea for a video, it’s called ‘who is falkus’, I saw on the doctor who wiki that this character is a clone of Davros who considers himself to be his real son. I bet he’s just as mysterious as dalek zeg or the dalek prime, so if you ever get the chance think about it.
No but why is davros kinda…
Davos is just space putin
Sadistic evil leader? I’d just say the man is “ Ambitious “ .