Tenants refusing to leave Ottawa home that's been sold
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- An Ottawa landlord says he's facing a legal nightmare, as tenants won't leave the house he sold. CTV's Jackie Perez reports.
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Who would want to rent out their property in this country
any country
Very risky because so many pos around these days.
And you wonder why there is a shortage of rentals...
Owner's would rather deal with Air-B-n-B or leave it empty than risk 6-9 months of a squatter refusing to leave, while they are on the hook for untold damage beyond their deposit.
So bloody true!
Landlords would rather charge luxury short term rental prices rather than actually having to be a real landlord... wake up.A landlord is not in the hotel business. But a tech start-up duped greedy, entitled ppl into beleieving they were. I used to live in Vancouver, I lived this reality.
I would not blame landlords to Airbnb their properties. As soon as a tenant gets in your house, they think the house belongs to them instantly. Landlord and tenant board penalized landlords if they do a minor wrong but the tenants don't pay rent and they destroy your properties cause they have to move, and yet the tenants have rights 😅😅😅 jokers at LTB.These tenants have more rights than the owners who paid over a million for their properties and have to pay mortgage and bills monthly.Some tenants are nightmare nightmares.
The new owners should have to rent to them. Nothing should change for the renters.
@@harunmusa8693 Who pays u Russia troll? Whats u with your pic of Ramzan Kadyrov?
Why do u have a pic of a Russian politician?
This is why no one wants to build purpose built rental properties.
Tenants don't get evicted in purpose-built rentals because it gets sold to a new owner
Umm. They are building a bunch in Ontario Canada! Plus thinking it's Toronto jack the prices up to Toronto standards in pricing.
I was a Landord once,,, NEVER AGAIN because the government has stacked the cards against the HOME OWNER who pays the mortgage...
TRUDEAU backs the Renter not the Home owner...
Rental laws and the tenant board are run by Doug Ford, not Trudeau. The housing situation is also Doug Ford’s responsibility, but Trudeau is being forced to step in because of inaction by the province.
definitely. the government knows how backed up and how biased residential tenancy boards are in BC and Ontario. Yet, governments don't care about the property owner class and cater to the mass renters because that's where they get their votes from. they only care about ripping property owners off through taxation on everything. it's better to just invest somewhere else than to have freeloading tenants with no consequences to damage properties and government stand idly by
Exactly. And if you don't pay the bank comes after you. Yet the tenant can get away Scott free without paying the rent for who knows how long before you can legally evict them. And if they choose to damage the property, you'll never get your money back.
That’s not true..
@@on2thenextthing and if the landlord has a mortgage, a damage to the credit score if the payments are not on time. The bank takes the place back and damage the credit score. Never be a landlord. It's best to just rent it out short term or just leave it empty, using it for a hobby that makes money (baking, furniture repair) is better
squatters have more rights in Canada than the home owners...laws have to change, like so many other laws that cater to criminals, frauds and scammers
Paying tenants are not squatters.
Your right paying tenants are not
@@RosemaryAmeyto. And they aren’t paying. So yes they are squatters
@@jumbome7420, where did they mention the tenants weren't paying?
@@RosemaryAmey where did they mention they were paying
He offered them $10,000 and a moving truck and they are still squatting there! This is ridiculous and just one more reason Landlords don't want to rent anymore, or would prefer an AirB&B.
Or do renovictions.
Or maybe just invest in the stock market instead of RE?
Yes! I have heard of several landlords saying that short term rentals are preferable to long term because, when there is an issue with LTR tenants the dispute cannot be resolved legally in a reasonable amount of time.
@@shauncameron8390 those clowns will continue to squat regardless of reason
Where would they ho in such a short notice. In Quebec you need 6 months notice . AIRNB also have squatter problems
Dont rent your house. Just dont do it. Not in these times.
True..dont know who is getting influence from Isreali... we don't want Naqba happening in Canada....
I saw a video on a similar situation where the owner waited for them to leave, went in, put all their stuff on the front lawn and changed the locks on the doors. It worked!!!
congratulation's on ruining someone's life and making them homeless.
Not their house to begin with
@seankingwell3692 perhaps don't try to live out of your means. Congrats on putting the landlord in debt.
What happens when you stop paying your mortgage or lease (on a car)
They can easily Airbnb temporarily
Warning to all property owners: being a landlord isn’t worth it. Tenants in Canada have all the rights.
Exactly, because the right to have a place to stay is more important than your right to get richer, sorry
It's not the same in every province. Much easier to be a landlord in Alberta.
@@scubandre1ever hear of a thing called a mortgage?
And they are always awarded to the tenant.
@@on2thenextthing Ever hear of predatory lending? It's the same reason landlords find their mortgages so expensive now. Funny how u don't mention the banks, and the cut they take.
I was a landlord for a while. I can assure you that on average my experience was worse than most, but Im sure theres worse. I once asked a guy that owns 4 well known coffee shops named after a hockey player some cursory questions. He said he could have a much nicer life just taking his millions and plunking his wealth into the stock market. Why is it that renters think you own the place outright, every dime is sheer profit, then tell you your taking the food right out of their kids mouths on rent day while the smell of pot lingers in my house? Never again.
Justice delayed is Justice denied.
I hope the landlord can find a way to sue both the tenants and the government of Ontario landlord tenant board!!!
🎯💯
1:32 🤦♀️ Not being able to get a meeting with the board *IS* the issue. For some reason 'Tenant Boards' seem to think that they can either sweep it under the rug; the issue will resolve themselves, or it isn't hurting anyone when a tenant refuses to comply with a *legal* order. I feel for this fellow as he has done nothing wrong and while he waits for the justice system to play catch-up, his home is being trashed (most likely) by disgruntled tenants. So WRONG. 🤨
Funny how Doug Ford was able to fleece Ontario, claiming to build average, affordable houses only to be outed for striking backroom deals with luxury property developers. The landlords vote for Doug, they reap what they sow Sweetie.
And he won’t be awarded a penny for damages.
why does a squatter have so much rights
Marxism
they are renting, not squatting
Because aren't squatters, they are paying tenants who have abided by the terms of their lease.
Housing is a Social Service.
Liberals and ndp
This is happening quite a bit. There was another tenant in Hamilton,Ont who refused to move out. The buyers finally got them out by moving onto the front lawn.
And this is why landlords are turning more to airbnb's and away from long-term rentals because the tenant rules are so slanted towards renters it's almost as if the landlords have no rights even though they are footing the bill for repairs maintenance taxes etc
Exactly.
The Ontario government dictates that all disputes be handled through the LTB and then doesn’t adequately staff it. There would no rental shortage functioned properly .
Of course, a government bureaucracy that functions properly is nothing short of a small miracle.
@@Mike__G BC's Tenancy is fabulous. We got rid of a nightmare and the adjudicator gave him 48 hours, and he's out.
Tenant should be arrested.
There's no mention of the tenants breaking any laws.
Not paying rent or not moving out after it was sold is a crime . The cops do it all the time for non rent in the city. Street campers living for free in the streets. They are removed ..... Living in someone's home for free like a little 🐁 🪤. Refused to move is a crime after the notice was issued.
@@helenaavelar8342, not paying rent is grounds for eviction, but there's no mention of the tenants not paying rent. Legally they have a right to a fair hearing at the Landlord Tenant Board before being evicted. It's not a crime to wait for the hearing.
They just don't want to move out.
@@helenaavelar8342the renters probably have nowhere to go. To evict someone during the holidays is a real trash move!!
Yup happened to me. Sold at high time and lost $180,000 in marketing going down. They just didn’t want to move out because rents had gone up. Very selfish of the Tenants.
😢very sad . Disappointing the laws don’t prevent this crap from happening . Sorry in Alberta 💔
you poor multimollionaire
@@sirpaddlesworthiii5933you sound pretty petty and jealous, maybe someone should take advantage of you, make you loose what you’ve earned.
@@JB-eo3iq "what youve earned" lmao.. yea sitting on a portfolio being juiced by an immigrant ponzi is a really earning
sue them
If you think this is bad, there was a case where a tenant and owner lived in the same home. The house was split into 2 units. During the dispute the tenant filed a protective order and this resulted in the homeowner/landlord having to move out in order to be some distance from the tennent as per the order.
Just let that sink in everyone that is renting to room mates!
Presumably there was grounds for the protection order or it wouldn't have bee issued.
That is the most insane thing i have ever heard.
Tenants are fully protected in Canada, and landlords are not, that's why all the landlords love Airbnb, because there are no such headaches. The laws should be there to protect both sides.
No not true years ago I almost lost my spot for one late , here in Quebec you would get a Bailiff letter and have 10 days to move or your stuff goes to storage. One Co-op couple got evicted recently . If you get evicted there , you are a bad tenant or in Low income housing
And the government encourages owners to get into a long term rental agreement that is never honoured by the tenants.
Should be a lot easier to evict for nonpayment. No need for such a drawn out process.
The tenant was evicted. They're just not leaving.
There was no mention of nonpayment.
The ruling takes too long. It's a 6 month wait for hearing. Tenant lives for free but owner continues to pay property tax, insurance, and possibly a mortgage. The housing market is not a free market under this government
This is terrible. Make these tenants public so that they are publicly insulted wherever they go by their friends, family and even strangers.
So as a reporter, the questions you should have asked and aired the answers to were: was there a lease in place? Or was it month to month? Did the new buyers sign off on having tenants? Or were they notified that the house was tenant-occupied before they purchased? Etc.
Doesn't matter in Ontario if they have a lease or are month to month. Tenants can overstay (month to month) and make it very difficult to get them to vacate.
Housing crisis? Why anyone would rent their property to anyone is beyond my comprehension.
Rental to pay for the expenses and eventually pay off the mortgage & use for retirement or grow the equity but bad idea in Ontario as the law in housing has swung too far in the tenants directions.
This is one of the many reasons I invest in index ETFs versus real estate.
Index ETFs offer better diversification
This justifies my decision to go Airbnb in my legal basement 😀
Cut off the power to the tenant name
They need to disclose the names of these tenants. No one should rent to them...
There used to be a law they could be evicted after 3 months.
I was a landlord for 14 years in total. If anyone thinks being a landlord is passive income they better look into it a little closer.
This is why there is no such thing as affordable rent or affordable housing.
Yeah because the government interferes with free market by establishing all the rules and delay/deny justice. Investors and businesses will go somewhere else, leaving very little buyers to rent out their space and limited supply.
@@checory
And limited supply = higher prices.
It's the greedy property owners nothing more
@animalmother5287 o really a. How about the greedy government, taxes, insurance, and bank's mortgage lenders. The list of greedy criminals just got bigger. But hey if you want affordable housing you can buy a tent from Canadian tire.
But you still have the property taxes under the tent.
They will drag on to benefit from the owner. Such a shame. They are expecting a crazy $$$ package from the owner
Tenants got more than 2 months notice PLUS 10,000$ offer in cash from landlord to move, and moving truck! They're practically secured financially for half a year! Yet they still refuse to leave?
That's clearly one landlord less to help against rental crisis.
So investing in real estate isn’t easy money?
It’s unfortunate that honest renter’s lose because of tenants like this. This landlord has gone above and beyond in this case.
And this is why I will NEVER buy a rental unit in Canada. Absolute joke this country is.
don't rent it out. it's better to leave the suite empty than to go through all the troubles, especially true if you're in BC and Ontario. let commercial property management companies and real estate developers deal with tenants. enjoy your own space with a home gym or hobby train set instead.
Then I guess we need to start drafting laws to prevent greedy ppl from owning ghost properties then. It's pretty disgusting how your humanity seems to be *missing*
Then squatters move in and you end up in the same boat.
Agreed
I purchased a small bungalow 5 years ago. I had searched in small town Ontario. "long time tenant would prefer to remain" Rental income is $1,000. Rent is paid on time. Yes, fine and dandy but I want to live in that house and have no interest in a tenant.
Don't even look at a house that is tenanted. Ignore, walk past. You'll be buying problems. I paid more, but it's mine, no tenants.
Next week we'll hear that they have legally moved in and now own the property, at the cost of the real owner.
Nah. It might take 2 years, but they will eventually have to leave.
"a frustrating scenario for ALL PARTIES INVOLVED" Really? The tenants are disgusting excuses for human beings! Yay for yellow journalism.
Yellow?
@@cory966 A term used when teaching future (actual) journalists in the past. In simple terms someone who turns their own opinions about a factual story into the facts, rather than stating facts.
All we know about the tenants is that they didn't move out when the landlord asked them to. How does that make them disgusting human beings? It's very hard to find an affordable place to rent nowadays.
@@RosemaryAmey I agree! This is the proper process as per the LTB. When someone buys a house that is tenant occupied, they assume those tenants. They're welcome to issue an N12 to those tenants, but they'll still need to deal with a hearing at the LTB. Rent prices are ridiculous nowadays. If I had to leave the house I'm in, my family would be homeless because we can't afford the current market rent. It's just the way it is.
@@RosemaryAmey
What would it cost him legally if he hired 4 big movers to put the contents of the curb? More than he is already paying?
Illegal.
@@adanam6377 ya but they are then out. 😂...
They are squatters, the police should kick them out. In most countries investing in properties is considered safe and relatively rewarding, in Canada it’s a headache.
Why not give limited time contracts to tenants ? If you have a legally binding contract for 2 years, tenants will have no legal right to overstay that time period !
Realtor website should list all delinquent tenants, so all landlords can decline their rent leases.
Been through the same .... I couldnt even move in my own home ...
New owner can move into their purchased house any time , even if the tenant does not move out. Both parties can live in the same house
why is the board constantly backed up? this has been going on for years.
government is incompetent (all governments, always).
Because there are more bad tenants than they can handle and everyone is taking advantage of the system knowing there won't be any consequences
Because the Ontario government has underfunded the LTB for years.
We are going through the same thing in St. Catharines. This is awful!!!!!
Time to take law into your own hands
If there is nowhere to go , where do you go ??
But at the same time , when you charge crazy rent you make yourself part of the problem and then renters don't care , your a business remember and business don't care about you lol
This is why landlords don’t want lower rents. To many self entitled squatters.
Too much risks too little reward. When the whole world and the government is against you by stupid rules and loopholes, don't go into that business
Bring more illigal immigrants in the will solve the rental shortage. Problem solved, just like the budget balances itself.
Dont ever feel sorry for landlords. Housing should have never been a money making scheme
U need to get a job. Stop begging off landlords
Give me 10k and I’ll make sure they leave.
it is strange all the employees at canada's housing and tenancy boards own hundreds of property each in private.
the corruption in canadian government agencies is disgusting.
Facts ? Or conspiracy
You have proof of that? Cause I really doubt that.....
@@jobuchner2563 of course they don’t. They probably saw it on tik tock
The broken & incompetent laws allow bad tenants to take advantage of owners, in many other countries the police would get involve to enforce the laws and protect the citizens. Really shameful situation.
No wonder no one wants to be a landlord
They didn't give much information about the current tenant. If the tenant has a lease, you can issue as many n4s as you want. You can't get them out until their lease ends. Also the new owners have to issue the n4 as they become the new land lord. The seller can issue an n4 on the new owners behalf if they are no longer on a lease and going month to month but only then will I agree, yes tenants can become a real pain in the ass if they request a hearing with the ltb
It does not matter. Tenants have more rights and know how to milk the system, especially the professional ones. Sad state of affairs in Ontario.
@@adanam6377 It does matter because if its a fresh lease agreement, then 100% it needs to be honored. Those laws are in place for these exact reasons. However if the lease is up, then yea tenants can milk the system because the wait lists are way to long right now with the LTB, exactly what I said above.
Greedy tenants.
Is there any wonder that there are fewer and fewer rental properties?
And whatever's around either charge higher rent or the landlord is trying to sell it.
That is just plain stupid. If a renters does not pay rent they should have 30 days to get out. No exceptions.
They never said the tenants weren't paying rent.
@@RosemaryAmey
But the new owner don't want them around.
@@shauncameron8390, if the new owners want to move in they can get the LTB to evict the tenants. However, the tenants have the right to a fair hearing, which will be delayed by the LTB backlog.
We need way more protection to get rid of squatter tenants. It's a joke.
you need to obey the law, this is what happens when you prey on your own for money
You couldn't give me a rental property. Tenants are a nightmare.
A friend had the same problem with his tenants when he sold his house. Took many months
There was ppl here who wouldnt leave the house across the street for almost 2 yrs. Owner couldnt sell.
Scandalous! They should be forced out by police at once.
Wrong, its against their rights whether you agree or not
Only the LTB can evict the tenants. They have a right to a fair hearing.
Tenants are likely the have not's, or have little.
They may need to find a place to move into, that might be the main issue. Moving trucks aren't hard to find.
Doesn't mean the tenants can take advantage of the senior who owns the property
Renting in😅 the Glebe is not cheap. They must have money.
I will never go into a renting business, unless the law changed.
I hear tenants are asking for as much as 100k to move out...lol
Marry them, then divorce. Police have no problem removing then.
IF YOU HAVE LEGAL POSSESSION OF THE RENTAL PROPERTY AND THE TENANT IS LIVING THERE ILLEGALLY - PULL THE HYDRO METER OFF!
If as the owner you are paying the hydro then ask your hydro company to pull the meter. It is your right to do so.
This is part of the reason why rents for everyone are so high. Ridiculous. I'm a renter and I'd never do something like this.
I was in this situation and did cash for keys and
they ripped me off for soem of it
in the future i'll just refuse
New homeowners don't have a contract with the tenants.
Actually they do under Ontario law, although if they want to live in the house themselves, they can evict the tenants.
The law.does not.protect the owners.or.landlords! Ridiculous!
If you want to know why rent is so high, look no further than legislation designed to protect tenants. Who in his right mind would choose to be a landlord? Lawmakers need to understand how well-meaning legislation can be a huge part of the problem.
Just turn off the power,water.
Not legal in Ontario.
@@RosemaryAmey So if you don't pay hydro,or water bill they won't shut it off? I am going to stop paying my hydro and water bills now.👍
That happened to me as a Landlord, but market went down $200,000, so l lost a lot of money and the buyers ended up not able to move in.
why countries are allowing Illegal and Terrorists into the countries...now face the consequences....
Landlord needs to squat inside while they go shopping
And then the tenant files a T2 form with the LTB for the landlord illegally entering the unit.
@@RosemaryAmey I've hard USA landlords claim squater rights
I thought he can move in !?! Poor guy
Doesn't seem like a frustrating scenario for the former tenants/Squatters.
He can sue for all cost. Maybe when these low life’s want to do better in life, an unpaid debt will hold them back.
You cant get blood from a stone, can sue all he wants, if they dont have the cash nothing he can get out of them.
Ontario landlord law is totally broke. Get rid of too much rights for the tenants. 60 days notice more than enough
Get the government to build more apartments not condos
Condos are a product of government interference that made apartments not worth it.
Government protects the bad look at the snake at the top
He may have followed the rules but they have the right to a hearing, they aren't squatters- this is the system. Once they get a hearing he will be able to have the sheriff remove them.
Does anyone know what happened at the April 2024 LTB hearing? Have the tenants moved out? Did the sale go through and do the buyers now live in their house?
Remove the windows.
This is simply ridiculous. These tennants should be ashamed of themselves. The police should be involved and forcing them out the door.
Legally, the tenants have a right to a hearing at the Landlord and Tenant Board, wlhich will decide if they will be evicgted.
@@RosemaryAmey this hearing won't be held until spring. That is months of accumulated costs for the landlord and the family that has purchased the home.
These tenants are saying they were not given enough notice to move. Did they not see the for sale sign on their front lawn for maybe a few months before the closing date? They must have allowed for showings as well.
Legally speaking, this law is ridiculously in favor of the tenant and completely unfair to the home owner.
If and when a tenant can no longer legally reside in the rental property then the new owners can ask the hydro company to pull the electric meter. The tenants will then leave asap. They can not live without hydro.
We need to stop calling it squatters when it's theft by conversion
the one thing that is assured....these tenants will never again have another rental at their disposal.....park bench anyone?
Call in a fumigation company and make the house unlivable for a month.
Why aren’t the police dragging them out???
The tenants told the landlord to make a real offer
😂😅, sounds like they know what they are doing.
Shouldn't have sold it before the dispute was settled in court.
Our society is pathetic, no respect, accountability or morals.
they should be forcibly removed and taken to jail
Not a word said about why the tenants refuse to leave though.
Rents generally are way up because house prices up
@@cliffc8177 This is why house prices are up......Prime Minister Trudeau's trip to India in 2018 that cost Canadians in excess of 1.5 million?....He is a little reminder......."figures released by the government include $323,000 for hotel stays, $485,070 to fly and staff the VIP Airbus for 43.7 hours over the nine-day trip, $5,235 for cell phone fees, $5,100 to buy Canadian wines for use at official events and $17,044.21 to fly Vancouver Chef Vikram Vij to India, where he cooked a dinner for a meeting and an official reception at the Canadian High Commission in New Delhi". Yet, many Canadians are being forced to choose between food and shelter.
"Trudeau's Christmas trip to a private resort in Jamaica, from Dec. 26, 2022, to Jan. 4, 2023, cost taxpayers $162,000. Trudeau's three vacations in the past year have cost Canadians more than $678,000". Again Canadians are being forced to choose between food and shelter.
All f this money spent for the luxury of the government, while citizens struggle to pay for food, shelter and medicine.