@@Philscooper coming from mostly a survivor main, adren pre nerf was just stupid, no way i get a free health state when im on hook or hell even on the killers shoulders
@@andrewandrew3713 Yeah even though I was upset by the adrenaline nerf, it was understandable that they made it not activate while on hook. It was incredibly broken in that aspect.
Y’all are literally arguing after we just got done with made for this and how messing with the speed is a bad idea after the game was built for 2 players at a specific speed, and not to mention they already got rid of spine chill resilience. Conclusion both you all and behavior are dumb af and can’t make up y’all minds about what’s good for the game after we’ve all already said how messing with vault speed and speed in general is a big no no yet here we are 💀 killers like oni ghost face hit a fat nerf from this
I mean I've played like 20 games of killer since the update and I think missed 1 hit due to the perk, cooldown means that unless you're deliberately baiting swings at windows(which you will still get hit at due to window validation in a lot of cases) it generally just gets wasted vaulting when you were never in danger to begin with.
it also helps sine it gives you more distance compared to a normal vault you can take riskier vaults since you know you can 1 vault back 2 more distance around a tile
Plus the fact that some or most killers depending on skill level usually get an easy hit so even if a survivor were to make it to a window or pallet, the perk can't be used
i think the perk is more like sprint burst in the way that you make the killer swing and look like an idiot whilst rushing off/ through a window, and dumb teching i never got why people said it was mega OP in the ptb
It’s definitely not op but I hate how you have to be healthy just like with that perk where your footsteps only make no noise when you are healthy. It would be better if it was the other way around.
I haven't seen game 4 onwards yet, but I'mma be honest. . . calling this new perk build a problem feels like a overreaction considering out of what was shown in the first three games (gameplay which should be showing how busted it is), you got basically no value. Half the time you were injured so it didn't work, and the other vaults shown so far where it did work were already safe vaults you wouldn't have gotten hit on even without it. So far there's nothing showing any reason of why this build is broken. Who knows, maybe as i finish the vid it will show some decent examples. But when half the vid so far doesn't do anything to help the title, it feels extremely click baity. Edit: FINALLY some value against the spirit. It didn't look like game changing value, but still some value.
@@turbo_killer347 i wouldn't say it's mandatory. Definitely helps, but not mandatory. Dbd is one of the few games where i typically don't see click baited titles as often as other games. Part of why i find it so odd when i finally do see them every so often. It could be because i typically mainly only watch a few of dbd content creators as to why I don't see it often, but it feels even when i stretch out and watch other dbd content creators click bait isn't something i see all that often in the dbd community specifically.
I had a full group of this build plus 4 vigil against my sadako trying to do a daily, it was pure pain. literally as soon as they saw the little red circle on their bodies they would scatter to the closest window like roaches
I like this perk a lot, I used resilience for this exact purpose and to have a perk like this is super awesome. I do agree with the people who are like “shushhh don’t man it seem super strong” because I could definitely see them changing the vault speed.
I think this perk is fine. Not OP but definitely very strong if you are going for synergy. If you run it with Lithe, Quick & Quiet and Dance With Me and use Finesse right at the beginning of a chase killers don’t even wanna chase you and abandon the chase going for easier victims.
Finesse knocks one tenth of a second off your vault speed. That's it: 0.1 seconds. Saying 20 percent makes it sound like a lot but it really, really isn't. This perk is bait.
It’s gotta a massive cooldown though, basically as long as an exhaustion perk. I think that balances it out. Plus you have to be healthy to use it. It’s not like +20% speed on every single vault 🤷
Yall tripping, he's talking about the weave/franklins combo, and frankly i agree with him, weave should have a radius of max 7/8 meters, 12 is a bit too much
@@andrewandrew3713 This shit meta really ? x) That work only on m1 and if you drop items in a corner he become useless and killer just waste 2 perks slots
Is there something special u do for your graphics? Mine just seem so dark and Grey while I'm playing killer and it's awful in chase because I can't see survivors
Okay, so now i have to be careful when i play Legion for the next week or two unless this perk will be meta which won't surprise me and ill just have to wait 2 more seconds
finesse is an okay perk, her value is really weak for so many conditions and killers that can easily counter her and the cooldown is unnecessary big , in overall she just guarantee a fast vault that mostly of the time you already was safe (unless you really wait the killer to get closer) and you can use resilience for the same reason and would be better bercause resilience do everything faster and consistently not just once in 30 minutes and still having the ability to not activate
Idk why people are complaining about finesse. Its not like og vault build and u had 15% while injured all the time. Peeps need to chill. Mind as well bring back og spine chill if thats the case lol.
at 5:16, what to do you mean by that? Legion is super easy to counter, getting chain hits to 5th hit without pills is like a rare moment for legion... But yeaaah, hope you wll do video about legion so you would understand, you can ask Tatariu, he is pretty chill and good legion main
To be fair, Finesse is pretty balanced. Without it, survivor feels so rigged and when you get value out of it you get some much adrenaline and it makes the game actually fun and as killer i dont mind it
Wow, 20 percent faster vault speed! That sure sounds like a lot! ....right? Numbers time! A healthy survivor fast vaults a window in 0.5 seconds. Pretty fast! Now, let's see....twenty percent of 0.5 is.....0.1 seconds. So instead of half a second for a vault it now takes 0.4 seconds. Yeah, doesn't sound like a lot anymore does it. The only thing that makes it feel a lot faster is the animation.
People who don't think this is OP are on another world imo, I play almost exclusively survivor and can see that lol That said, I dont think it needs significant changes to be fine, its just too much right now.
Everyone is saying finess and lithe . Let me tell you finess plus balanced is the real deal . Its really good on the game . Drop down balanced into finesse window super fast .
dbd 2020 - 2024 remove everything fun and remove all minor skill requirements and add a perk or base kit thing to make it possible for blind quadriplegic persons to do it making it unfun like flashlight saves, locker saves now with this you don't need to be that good at doing fast vaults
This video isnt a lara perk showcase, its a fengmin one. Every content creator I've seen try to clickbait this perk has yet to use it effictively. It's dogshit, not your fault but stop clickbaiting people.
Every big name player in the ptb even said it should be 10% 15% MAYBE at the most but even then it should have a caveat like exhausted or longer CD it's so OP that you can use it 2-3+ times in one chase
No it’s not, stop calling it broken cause it’s gonna get nerfed QUICK
Killer mains are the majority, just like how adren got nerfed 😂
@@Philscooper coming from mostly a survivor main, adren pre nerf was just stupid, no way i get a free health state when im on hook or hell even on the killers shoulders
@@andrewandrew3713 Yeah even though I was upset by the adrenaline nerf, it was understandable that they made it not activate while on hook. It was incredibly broken in that aspect.
@@CuriosityKilledTheCat-by3vs true that it felt unfair even if i was benefitting
Y’all are literally arguing after we just got done with made for this and how messing with the speed is a bad idea after the game was built for 2 players at a specific speed, and not to mention they already got rid of spine chill resilience.
Conclusion both you all and behavior are dumb af and can’t make up y’all minds about what’s good for the game after we’ve all already said how messing with vault speed and speed in general is a big no no yet here we are 💀 killers like oni ghost face hit a fat nerf from this
finesse don’t need nerfs
I mean I've played like 20 games of killer since the update and I think missed 1 hit due to the perk, cooldown means that unless you're deliberately baiting swings at windows(which you will still get hit at due to window validation in a lot of cases) it generally just gets wasted vaulting when you were never in danger to begin with.
it also helps sine it gives you more distance compared to a normal vault you can take riskier vaults since you know you can 1 vault back 2 more distance around a tile
Plus the fact that some or most killers depending on skill level usually get an easy hit so even if a survivor were to make it to a window or pallet, the perk can't be used
i think the perk is more like sprint burst in the way that you make the killer swing and look like an idiot whilst rushing off/ through a window, and dumb teching i never got why people said it was mega OP in the ptb
This perk is not OP in all honesty it’s exactly where it should be
Agreed 👍
i think they need to lower the cooldown, it makes it useless during anything but the start of chase
@biggboii9515 exactly very little value when the use is limited to cooldown
@@HOODIESOLOO til the killer mains say otherwise and get it nerfed aswell
It’s definitely not op but I hate how you have to be healthy just like with that perk where your footsteps only make no noise when you are healthy.
It would be better if it was the other way around.
I haven't seen game 4 onwards yet, but I'mma be honest. . .
calling this new perk build a problem feels like a overreaction considering out of what was shown in the first three games (gameplay which should be showing how busted it is), you got basically no value. Half the time you were injured so it didn't work, and the other vaults shown so far where it did work were already safe vaults you wouldn't have gotten hit on even without it.
So far there's nothing showing any reason of why this build is broken. Who knows, maybe as i finish the vid it will show some decent examples. But when half the vid so far doesn't do anything to help the title, it feels extremely click baity.
Edit: FINALLY some value against the spirit. It didn't look like game changing value, but still some value.
He doesn't think the perk is OP, just made that title for clickbait. which is mandatory if you want your videos to get views at all.
@@turbo_killer347 i wouldn't say it's mandatory. Definitely helps, but not mandatory. Dbd is one of the few games where i typically don't see click baited titles as often as other games. Part of why i find it so odd when i finally do see them every so often.
It could be because i typically mainly only watch a few of dbd content creators as to why I don't see it often, but it feels even when i stretch out and watch other dbd content creators click bait isn't something i see all that often in the dbd community specifically.
Maybe thats the point?, to show the killer mains that finesse isnt that good?
@@Philscoopernoob killer mains are still crying tho :(
@@andrewandrew3713literally who
Woah, this is my first time ever hearing about finesse l, it looks op
It absolutely is. At the very least, it should be an exhaustion perk so that way it can't synergize lithe.
Yea laras perk
@@DragonOnCoke7299ok killer main
So op that out of the six games it worked twice 🤪😜🥰
@@user-ie4uk3ub6cJust admit your perk is a bit too good brother
loved the vid w/ Quiet Kills your guy's energy was infectious!! Would love to see you guys do more stuff, maybe some SWF action ;)
I had a full group of this build plus 4 vigil against my sadako trying to do a daily, it was pure pain. literally as soon as they saw the little red circle on their bodies they would scatter to the closest window like roaches
I like this perk a lot, I used resilience for this exact purpose and to have a perk like this is super awesome. I do agree with the people who are like “shushhh don’t man it seem super strong” because I could definitely see them changing the vault speed.
I think this perk is fine. Not OP but definitely very strong if you are going for synergy. If you run it with Lithe, Quick & Quiet and Dance With Me and use Finesse right at the beginning of a chase killers don’t even wanna chase you and abandon the chase going for easier victims.
Finesse knocks one tenth of a second off your vault speed. That's it: 0.1 seconds. Saying 20 percent makes it sound like a lot but it really, really isn't. This perk is bait.
09:15!! Nagito komaeda is finally in a puffalope video
Please don't nerf finnesse it's the first new perk I've found fun in years😭
They nerf anything that's fun in DBD because they think they're an MLG competitive game.
It’s gotta a massive cooldown though, basically as long as an exhaustion perk. I think that balances it out. Plus you have to be healthy to use it. It’s not like +20% speed on every single vault 🤷
did bro even read the perks description..
Bro how is this perk combo a problem, you got real value from it like twice in almost ten games
NEW PUFF VID LESSS GO
Damn man thank you so much for introducing me to this perk, def gonna run a build off it now
Most of the time I'm injured when I get to the first pallet. But I will say this when this combo works it's really strong!!
Perfect, I can eat now.
I havent been running this perk and sometimes i feel like my vaults should have got me hit
Man why hasn’t anyone talk about the new killer metas being a problem
Explain how it’s a problem?
what new killer meta ?
New killer meta? Like people running trail of torment instead of pop?
Yall tripping, he's talking about the weave/franklins combo, and frankly i agree with him, weave should have a radius of max 7/8 meters, 12 is a bit too much
@@andrewandrew3713 This shit meta really ? x) That work only on m1 and if you drop items in a corner he become useless and killer just waste 2 perks slots
Nothing OP about the perk only work when healthy and on CD. It was give you 3 to 4 vaults during the game sounds quiet balanced to me.
1:33 me and bro said it at the same time 😂
Nah nah amazing intro btw had to run it back super funny😭😂
Is there something special u do for your graphics? Mine just seem so dark and Grey while I'm playing killer and it's awful in chase because I can't see survivors
Okay, so now i have to be careful when i play Legion for the next week or two unless this perk will be meta which won't surprise me and ill just have to wait 2 more seconds
finesse is an okay perk, her value is really weak for so many conditions and killers that can easily counter her and the cooldown is unnecessary big , in overall she just guarantee a fast vault that mostly of the time you already was safe (unless you really wait the killer to get closer) and you can use resilience for the same reason and would be better bercause resilience do everything faster and consistently not just once in 30 minutes and still having the ability to not activate
*I am still waiting for Freddy adept...*
Make a series of the known killer one tricks or mains to main survivor with you show them techs and stuff like they did with you
survivor DC after death meta so your team can pop 2 gens in 1!
When he said “ARE ROLES SWAPPED” I immediately said no cuz every game I get in a someone dcs 😭
Yeah tbh most clips you only delayed a hit for like 10 seconds with this combo which is def good but like, its not winning games outright lol
Idk why people are complaining about finesse. Its not like og vault build and u had 15% while injured all the time. Peeps need to chill. Mind as well bring back og spine chill if thats the case lol.
at 5:16, what to do you mean by that? Legion is super easy to counter, getting chain hits to 5th hit without pills is like a rare moment for legion... But yeaaah, hope you wll do video about legion so you would understand, you can ask Tatariu, he is pretty chill and good legion main
To be fair, Finesse is pretty balanced. Without it, survivor feels so rigged and when you get value out of it you get some much adrenaline and it makes the game actually fun and as killer i dont mind it
Wow, 20 percent faster vault speed! That sure sounds like a lot!
....right?
Numbers time!
A healthy survivor fast vaults a window in 0.5 seconds. Pretty fast! Now, let's see....twenty percent of 0.5 is.....0.1 seconds.
So instead of half a second for a vault it now takes 0.4 seconds.
Yeah, doesn't sound like a lot anymore does it. The only thing that makes it feel a lot faster is the animation.
omg puffaloop is back finally
People keep complaining about how Finesse is just fine. I dont think so. Finesse needs to be reworked completely .
I saw value twice this entire video 😂😂😂 the perk is fine.
Watching this realizing it was you getting away that quick (I was the pyramid head)
The perk just don’t activate for me majority of the time
i think its perfectly fine myself, great effect yes but yiu dont get to use it often so i think its fine
12:20 bro how it worked lmao
People who don't think this is OP are on another world imo, I play almost exclusively survivor and can see that lol
That said, I dont think it needs significant changes to be fine, its just too much right now.
What happened to “This survivor build will bring her back”
Puffalope finessing his way into our homes again.
Everyone is saying finess and lithe . Let me tell you finess plus balanced is the real deal . Its really good on the game . Drop down balanced into finesse window super fast .
That nea in the thumbnail is scary af I see ehy people think shes the entity
Finesse is far from broken, its actually pretty balanced
I heard that Puffalope has made, like, a Brazilian videos.
Puffa teu Insidious doctor. I think you get It the Idea.
Maybe I should sub to puff and see all the mean tricks survivors pull so I can stop getting dunked on.
What is this new perk finesse? 🤨
Bro used the perk like 2 times the whole video nice
Bro just made a video of Lithe 😂
What is this perk😮
It's the new MFT ........ disgusting!
Only one solution, I need to main skull merchant now!
Are you a killer main🫨🥴😫🥱🤨
as a surv main you sure do everything in your power to shit talk survivors is kinda admirable
That's how we get balanced perks Nerf... TH-camrs clickbating that a certain perk is Op while it's far from it... Unsubbed.
Ur laugh is so cute 😁😁😭
puff are you brazilian???
I am Brasilian and nobody gives me money, please explain this new meta.
The current state of the game is also a problem
cool video
dbd 2020 - 2024 remove everything fun and remove all minor skill requirements and add a perk or base kit thing to make it possible for blind quadriplegic persons to do it making it unfun like flashlight saves, locker saves now with this you don't need to be that good at doing fast vaults
"pov tech" lmao.
Why do you sound so much like fearless
itll be nerfed soon right into an exhaustion perk
This is a good perk but it’s not op.
ok nerf it, it will become garbage and not useable like a LOT of other perks. GG nice we are done, what can we nerf next ? No pallets anymore ?
Another brazilian with mongrel complex... just like me :V
Day 2 of asking for legion adept
Not op at all, can’t even use perk against plague and legion
é brasileiro ou não ?
um salve do Brasil!
The amount of yapping about the perk is comical to say the least, leave it be its fine where its at right now
What is finnese????
one of Lara Crofts new perks
Less go
You are super kate
you're super mate
wtf is a "Puff tech"? pov tech is better
It’s not op for the love of god stop calling it op behavior has trigger fingers for these kind of things.
Puff prove ur brazilian rn or i unsub
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Finesse is so annoying on killer side 😅
This video isnt a lara perk showcase, its a fengmin one. Every content creator I've seen try to clickbait this perk has yet to use it effictively. It's dogshit, not your fault but stop clickbaiting people.
Nice clickbait
Puff prove you are Brazilian or I don't like the video
proof you’re brazilian or I unsub 👹
puff prove you're Brazilian or I unsub
I min gang here
Prove ur Brazilian or I’ll unsub
First
Every big name player in the ptb even said it should be 10% 15% MAYBE at the most but even then it should have a caveat like exhausted or longer CD it's so OP that you can use it 2-3+ times in one chase
9 mins agooo
640 views in 30 minutes puffalope fell off
Just….stop. Please….just stop.
i'll think about it