@@profanepersonality yes being self aware doesn't make you better, It actualy makes you worse because pepole who don't know what is in the bible can be excused a bit more than pepole who have read It for thinking It is good (moraly and generaly) .
@@stevel6360 I'd argue Westboro Baptist church is the least cherrypicking sect. and I hope it's clear that is in no way of me supporting them or defending them
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a avirgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his awife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. #christianlove
I don't think there's a literal part that says what's in the song ... what Tim mentions is mostly an aggregate of the whole Deutoronomy 22 ... if the woman doesn't marry the guy, and then marries another one and she's not a virgin, then she has to be stoned to death.... If a betrothed woman is raped in the city, and does not scream, she has to be stoned to death... if she's raped outside the city, it seems she's lucky and at least is not stoned to death (wow ... great consolation price) ... if she's not betrothed and raped, then she just has to marry her rapist ... I'm sure she would prefer to be stoned to death in this one....
@@emilyflotilla931 how does a progressive Christian reconcile with the owning of people as well as indentured servitude Genesis? I've yet to meet one that doesn't just say either the book doesn't say that or conflate slavery for indentured servitude which are both bad
It baffles me how someone can enjoy and laugh at this actually state that Tim raises good points and yet still describes themselves as a christian. Morality and acceptable human behaviour changes from one generation to the next as we learn and understand more for anyone to be referencing a 2000 year old text looking for guidance on such things just makes no sense. Loved the reaction though.
Right?! No matter how much you laugh it off or commend Tim, how the hell can you still call yourself a Christian after acknowledging Tim’s points?? I just don’t get it. And I don’t find it funny.
I think this is actually a good thing. And I'm saying this as an atheist, and somewhat anti-theist. If a Christian can see this, and laugh at it while even understanding the points raised in the song... that's great! I, like hopefully most atheists, don't mind that people believe in things that I don't believe in. I just care that people are good to others, no matter who they are, and let them be the way they want to be. It's more important to me that they understand where I, and others like me are coming from, than that they agree with me.
You should face the beliefs instilled in you from childhood, bro. Your morality is derived from your natural desire to be a good person, not from any bible. The Golden Rule stems from our social nature, and we don't need religion to tell right from wrong.
Kiddo… if you don’t know what your own religious text dictates… WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THE OTHER STUFF? Seriously, have you READ the Bible? I so appreciate your humour and openness… But I can’t help thinking that someone as sharp and open minded as you are will end up rejecting the religion you espouse once you’re actually made aware of the totality of that religion. I’ve watched so many of your reactions, and you are better than the identity by which you make yourself known. Peace. 🤗
Cherrypicking... everything that's inconvenient gets ignored or some mental gymnastics while that is no longer valid or mitigated by something else... despiste the claim that this all the inspired word of the deity - that is omniscient and omnipotent ... and doesn't make mistakes... cue noah's flood killing millions to correct the mistake of humans allegedly created by this deity.
Something I noticed when I went to church as a child - no one actually reads the bible. We go to church on sunday, the priest reads a little bit, and then spends 20 minutes telling us what it means. His interpretation of what it means, of course. It wasn't until I took communion and got my own copy of the bible and READ it that I went - wait, what?! I became an atheist not long after that.
yes, READ the religious text of whatever religion you are, and think about at what % of disagreement with the doctrine of the religion can you no longer say you are that religion. doctrine is what makes a religion a thing. a group of people that have the same beliefs. well there is more to it than any random belief, but that is the short of it.
I love your Tim reactions, cuz you are the REAL kind of Christian, and NOT the ones Tim is making fun of 😭😭😂😂 I'm not religious myself, but I respect it 💗💗
@@grejen711 He's making fun of the people that take the Bible litteral. Like WORD FOR WORD. A "real" christian understands that the Bible was written in a different time, and they understand how to bring the virtues in to the modern world. I hope that makes sense 😅
After raping a woman, if you can provide her family with (I believe) 60 pieces of silver, she's got to accept being your wife or get stoned. She's not getting high though.
i would say not noah's ark, but the instruction to stone disobedient children. Leviticus 20:9 says, “If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother, his bloodguiltiness is upon him.” “His bloodguiltiness is upon him” basically means that he brought this punishment on himself. so, parents murder your kid, and it is the kids fault. or Deuteronomy 21:18-21 longer i will not quot it hear you can look it up. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 CSB - Marrying your Rapist "If a man encounters a young woman, a virgin who is not engaged, takes hold of her and rapes her, and they are discovered, the man who raped her is to give the young woman’s father fifty silver shekels, and she will become his wife because he violated her. He cannot divorce her as long as he lives." and if she will not marry the Rapist see above disobedient children.
Atheist here but I'm pretty sure the guy told by "god" to kill his son was Abraham. And followed up with oopsy, just kidding. My beloved Muslim brothers also believe in this ghostly asshole.
I love this song. Do you actually believe the bible? Earth was created 2000 years ago by an invisible magic man in the sky or believe the physical evidence from multiple people carbon dating stuff from millions of years ago. If you want to believe in God/The Bible then go for it, it just makes no logical sense to me
I love the face Christians make when someone points out what’s actually in the book.
I find it refreshing when I find people that know the religious book they swear by. I can respect that over people who cherry pick.
@@Claire-tz8yl there isn't a sect of Christianity that doesn't cherry pick though
@Claire , it makes me even more disgusted because they know, and still support it. 🤷♂️
@@profanepersonality yes being self aware doesn't make you better, It actualy makes you worse because pepole who don't know what is in the bible can be excused a bit more than pepole who have read It for thinking It is good (moraly and generaly) .
@@stevel6360 I'd argue Westboro Baptist church is the least cherrypicking sect.
and I hope it's clear that is in no way of me supporting them or defending them
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man find a damsel that is a avirgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his awife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
#christianlove
I don't think there's a literal part that says what's in the song ... what Tim mentions is mostly an aggregate of the whole Deutoronomy 22 ... if the woman doesn't marry the guy, and then marries another one and she's not a virgin, then she has to be stoned to death.... If a betrothed woman is raped in the city, and does not scream, she has to be stoned to death... if she's raped outside the city, it seems she's lucky and at least is not stoned to death (wow ... great consolation price) ... if she's not betrothed and raped, then she just has to marry her rapist ... I'm sure she would prefer to be stoned to death in this one....
@@dmunozg Thanks. Progressive Christian here, from an open and affirming UCC church.
"And she shall be his awife" I couldn't help but read that in Borat's voice.
And Tim was being nice and not mentioning that a preachers daughter who has unwed sex is to be burnt to death.
@@emilyflotilla931 how does a progressive Christian reconcile with the owning of people as well as indentured servitude Genesis? I've yet to meet one that doesn't just say either the book doesn't say that or conflate slavery for indentured servitude which are both bad
Tim nicely pointing out the circular logic of ‘this book is good. Why? Because the book says it is good”.
But a really good book would know that it's good.
I never clocked on to the Noah's ark reference with the cats until you mentioned 😂 great reaction bud
It baffles me how someone can enjoy and laugh at this actually state that Tim raises good points and yet still describes themselves as a christian.
Morality and acceptable human behaviour changes from one generation to the next as we learn and understand more for anyone to be referencing a 2000 year old text looking for guidance on such things just makes no sense.
Loved the reaction though.
Right?! No matter how much you laugh it off or commend Tim, how the hell can you still call yourself a Christian after acknowledging Tim’s points?? I just don’t get it. And I don’t find it funny.
I think this is actually a good thing. And I'm saying this as an atheist, and somewhat anti-theist. If a Christian can see this, and laugh at it while even understanding the points raised in the song... that's great! I, like hopefully most atheists, don't mind that people believe in things that I don't believe in. I just care that people are good to others, no matter who they are, and let them be the way they want to be. It's more important to me that they understand where I, and others like me are coming from, than that they agree with me.
Oh- and again love just watching you. Great reactions and timing and comments
You should face the beliefs instilled in you from childhood, bro. Your morality is derived from your natural desire to be a good person, not from any bible. The Golden Rule stems from our social nature, and we don't need religion to tell right from wrong.
Love your Honesty being a believer. Great work m8
Your face at 5:40 was everything!!
Minchin schooling a Christian on his own religion. Standard.
TIM makes me proud to be a AUSSIE.
I fucking love you, dude…. Thank you for sharing your video… Tim Minchin is so incredibly intelligent and funny…your reaction was priceless😬🥰
If i didnt have you is another great one by tim if you get a chance
Kiddo… if you don’t know what your own religious text dictates…
WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THE OTHER STUFF?
Seriously, have you READ the Bible?
I so appreciate your humour and openness… But I can’t help thinking that someone as sharp and open minded as you are will end up rejecting the religion you espouse once you’re actually made aware of the totality of that religion.
I’ve watched so many of your reactions, and you are better than the identity by which you make yourself known.
Peace. 🤗
Cherrypicking... everything that's inconvenient gets ignored or some mental gymnastics while that is no longer valid or mitigated by something else... despiste the claim that this all the inspired word of the deity - that is omniscient and omnipotent ... and doesn't make mistakes... cue noah's flood killing millions to correct the mistake of humans allegedly created by this deity.
Something I noticed when I went to church as a child - no one actually reads the bible. We go to church on sunday, the priest reads a little bit, and then spends 20 minutes telling us what it means. His interpretation of what it means, of course. It wasn't until I took communion and got my own copy of the bible and READ it that I went - wait, what?! I became an atheist not long after that.
yes, READ the religious text of whatever religion you are, and think about at what % of disagreement with the doctrine of the religion can you no longer say you are that religion. doctrine is what makes a religion a thing. a group of people that have the same beliefs. well there is more to it than any random belief, but that is the short of it.
You have to listen to Woody Allen Jesus. The one with the video. Tim is a genius.
I love your Tim reactions, cuz you are the REAL kind of Christian, and NOT the ones Tim is making fun of 😭😭😂😂 I'm not religious myself, but I respect it 💗💗
Can you explain to this atheist the difference between what a REAL Christian and the ones Tim makes fun of? I have a really hard time seeing it.
@@grejen711 He's making fun of the people that take the Bible litteral. Like WORD FOR WORD. A "real" christian understands that the Bible was written in a different time, and they understand how to bring the virtues in to the modern world. I hope that makes sense 😅
@@crazyratlady3026 It seems like you're doing a no true Scotsman fallacy which is in poor taste.
Also how do you decide which parts to read into?
@@stevel6360 okay, have a Nice Day.
@@crazyratlady3026 No that makes zero sense
Don't take this the wrong way, I love your reactions but I glad you're making your intros shorter 😊
Wait until you find out how the Bible justifies slavery, and was literally used as a tool for slavery in America, and that is why you believe. 😂😂😂😂
After raping a woman, if you can provide her family with (I believe) 60 pieces of silver, she's got to accept being your wife or get stoned. She's not getting high though.
i would say not noah's ark, but the instruction to stone disobedient children.
Leviticus 20:9 says, “If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother, his bloodguiltiness is upon him.”
“His bloodguiltiness is upon him” basically means that he brought this punishment on himself.
so, parents murder your kid, and it is the kids fault.
or
Deuteronomy 21:18-21 longer i will not quot it hear you can look it up.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 CSB - Marrying your Rapist
"If a man encounters a young woman, a virgin who is not engaged, takes hold of her and rapes her, and they are discovered, the man who raped her is to give the young woman’s father fifty silver shekels, and she will become his wife because he violated her. He cannot divorce her as long as he lives."
and if she will not marry the Rapist see above disobedient children.
You haven't read your bible have you? Or just missed that part. Stoning was very common in the Old Testament!
Abraham was told to kill his son.
Read Deuteronomy 22:28-29.
Atheist here but I'm pretty sure the guy told by "god" to kill his son was Abraham. And followed up with oopsy, just kidding. My beloved Muslim brothers also believe in this ghostly asshole.
I don't like the Good Book.
The song or the actual book.
@@aliamvickersfan2388 haha I didn't make it clear.... love the song, not the book!
@@jemxs Thanks for the clarification and it's the same for me.
If you don't know what your scripture actually says, why believe in the religion?
Where does it say that? The Bible, read yours. Also the Quran (bible 2.0).
I love this song.
Do you actually believe the bible? Earth was created 2000 years ago by an invisible magic man in the sky or believe the physical evidence from multiple people carbon dating stuff from millions of years ago.
If you want to believe in God/The Bible then go for it, it just makes no logical sense to me
Christianity does not claim Earth was created 2000 years ago, that is the birth of Jesus.
Read jude