The Drinker Recommends... Chernobyl (HBO miniseries)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2019
- Every once in a while, I find a movie or TV that genuinely impresses me, so it's only right that I take a break from criticising bad content to just enjoy something. And one of those things is Chernobyl, so I'm going to review it here.
Link to the Chernobyl Children's Project: www.chernobyl-children.org.uk/ - บันเทิง
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TH-cam: "silly drunk. You think we care enough about children to allow you to monetize a video?"
Surprised they haven't banned him yet for saying something bad about communism.
Or banned for drinking on the job, these new puritans will ban you for wearing the wrong underwear.
To be honest they shouldn't make any exceptions.
I had an ad ahead of this video.
According to Creator Studio, the video has ads enabled so not sure why you're not seeing any.
Bit of good news, those 3 legends who went into the flooded basement actually survived.
One of them subsequently died, but nothing to do with radiation.
2 of them actually.. did you watch the show? lol
Wasn't all this revealed at the end of the show?
@@NickBFlair subsequently 19 years later 😂
The power of that vodka afterwards!
1986 Russia: Nah, it'll be fine!
2019 China: Nah, it'll be fine!
It s not the "China : Nah, it'll be fine" that angers me, its the "EU, nah it'll be fine" and the "France : Nah, it'll be fine" for me as a French citizen.
2020: Trump: COVID will just disappear.
@@craigguiliano trump was the first to call it as a threat a month before anyone else
@@youtubehasbigcringe The public record doesn’t reflect that at all.
@@craigguiliano it does, you’re just a dumbass lmao
Best lines in this show,
“We need a new phone”
“Now you look like the minister of coal”
“These men work in the dark and see everything”
Those were pretty good, the phone one still makes me chuckle.
Also "We still wearing the goddamn hats"
The actual minister of coal during the incident was an actual coal miner
@@eshaanjain9379 yes I read about that and that he was pretty well respected by other coal miners
The best line that can easily relate to current real world
Why worry about something that's never going to happen?
Oh that's brilliant. We should print that on our money
This series saved millions of the GOT ending trauma in getting our minds off that other disaster.
Ikr! Thank god for that
GOT ending trauma sounds like trump derangement sydrome.. what tits and dragons will do to a person is scary.. or all you fans are just mentally weak...
@@cyberhawk80 half the people "traumatized" are quite obviously talking in hyperboles. They're not actually being serious. Unlike people with TDS
@@r0w5tortion84 true very true.. i only suffer from EGS luckily..
@@cyberhawk80 End of Got Syndrome?
"A sobering experience"
For a drinker
Woah
Whoa
Well that's a first!
I'm Russian and I never even considered the matter of their accents. This is an English movie in English language, so if course they sound English.
What is really important here, and shows the professionalism of the actors, is their ability to mimic Russian mannerism: hand gestures, phrase structures, facial expressions and other subtle elements that characterize not just Russian speakers, but Russian speakers from different backgrounds and social statuses. The actors nailed that part.
They used varying accents for the English speakers to parallel the diversity amongst the Russian-speakers of the USSR.
The Death of Stalin employed the same approach.
Well it's been dubbed to russian language so for immersion you can run russian audio and english subtitle.
The director said they tried early table read sessions with the actors putting on Russian accents, but they scrapped the idea as they were unable to act naturally. They found it was all too easy to slip into a clichéd, exaggerated "Bond Villain" accent.
@@bluesrocker91 "Ee-wacky-wations are under-vey!" - Pavel Checkov as played by Anton Yelchin (a native born Russian)
@@KissedPuppet RIP Anton Yelchin
As a nuclear operator, we routinely study Chernobyl. It is heartbreaking how many mistakes and bad decisions had to pile on each other to bring that disaster into reality.
question, would the fuel melt down to the water and super heat it (which I kinda find hard to believe) and cause a 2 or 3 mega ton explosion? or was this hypathetacal at the time when they thought it would do that or not? also would the fuel also have sinked into the ground water if they didn't put that heat exchanger their?
That is good news, really. It takes quite some effort to make a reactor go "boom". There goes the lefties wet dream of sabotaging one,
It's astonishing how many people can walk around and see all of that death and destruction and say, "This is impossible. This cannot happen."
any device is as safe as the people operating it. Even the monitoring system was (correctly) warning them. The reactor itself, as a device, was decent. Not great, not terrible. But the people operating it, managed to F everything up.
As only people know how to.
Very few disasters are the result of a single, or even just a few, mistakes. There is usually a long chain of bad decisions, typically by different people, combining with unusually bad luck. Accident investigations usually proceed on that principle.
I have about 10,000 hours operating nuclear reactors, and I was seeing accident analysis videos on what went wrong there back in the late 80s, when that information was still classified. I expected to spend my entire watching experience picking it apart for technical inaccuracies, but boy howdy was I ever wrong. It was so excellently done that I was completely engrossed in the human element of the story. I knew who Anatoly Dyataov, Leonid Toptunov, and Aleksey Akimov were before I saw it, and I could pontificate for hours on the design flaws and operating mistakes that led to the disaster, but not for a second do I think I could've told the story the way HBO did. To coin a grossly inaccurate trope about radiation poisoning, I'd give this miniseries three thumbs up.
They captured the essence of why humanity continues to experience seemingly perfectly avoidable disasters, at least when viewed from advantaged hindsight. Machines don't function as advertised. Nature doesn't behave predictably. Political pressures are pushing down on management from above, while emotional tensions at home, mixed with stresses of work are bubbling up and for an instant--just an instant--the people caught in the middle of all of that have to make a choice between breaking protocols and being screwed, or following protocols and being screwed, so they think _"I just don't care anymore."_ It feels like the entire weight of world with all its contradictions is being supported by a gossamer thread of hope that _maybe_ there's a middle ground through this labyrinth of impossible rules humanity has created for ourselves to spite the limitations imposed by physical reality, but the clock is ticking, the walls are closing in all the while, _you have to act _*_now._*
Then it snaps.
As far as my research went, practically the entire sequence in the control room is made up. As in, the arguments, yelling and even why AZ-5 was pressed.
@@cpthrki5852 Yopp Russian don´t yell that much facing the catastrophy. They are rather like that: th-cam.com/video/m8s1nOe4Wis/w-d-xo.html
Guess that includes your big toe
@@cpthrki5852 I don't think we, the rest of the world, will ever know the total truth of what really happened in that control room the night of the disaster. But that was how Soviet-Era history worked. Lies on top of secrets, when the secrets are are lies to begin with. And honestly, I don't think it really matters anyway. The show, to me personally, was not about "how" or "why" the reactor exploded, but what happened, "After". It was about all the nameless, faceless people, "on the front lines", who had to deal with the greatest nuclear catastrophe the world had ever seen. That was the story that mattered, and the show nailed that story 120%. So we maybe got some fabricated drama leading up to "Explosion", who cares? Docu-Drama's are never totally accurate, that's just how filmmaking works - and considering the totality of the end product, I think we can forgive some creative license from the writers in the beginning...
*"The real cost of lies is measured in human suffering."*
Dang. That phrase made me pause the video and think for a good minute or two. Deep stuff.
"Every lie incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt IS paid."
Maybe the most powerful line I've ever heard in a TV show. Dude should get an Emmy just for that one line of dialog.
Yeah, especially when you consider that this show is 80% lies.
This is something that people constantly forget, learn the hard way, and then forget again. Politics and agendas should never be above truth.
+Just Watch you remember that for the next time some millennial jackass starts with the socialism speech. Then use it on them and watch their eyes glaze over as they try to figure out who gave you permission to speak to them.
- Billie Eilish
English accents: I like how some shows use the various English Dialect accents to represent the various Russian accents. Like how the miners had more of that gruff English accent.
The Death of Stalin is another show that goes all out on the accents.
That was the first thing I noticed also. The one who made me smile was the Irish accent on the fireman's wife.
The miners were Scottish in the show.
Yeah its a better way to handle the use of English. The chief miner was Scottish.
Letting the actors concentrate on their performances rather than trying to badly fake an accent is fine by me.
In particular, Zhukov's broad Yorkshire accent was an attempt at transposition. Zhukov hailed from a similar district to Yorkshire size-wise , so there you go. That's how the production team rolled with the accents in the movie, and it made perfect sense to me. ' Now, I'm off to represent the entire Red Army at the buffet!"
Jason Issacs, having a blast and funny as fk!
P.s. Steve Buscemi also- " I will fuck you up!"
The final conclusion of this series is a chilling one. When a society departs from reality and silently agrees to propagate lies, reality snaps back with a vengeance.
Doesn't it EVER!!!
Sounds like social media
i wonder what the reality snap back from a stolen election looks like.
@@bobleglob162 it looks like YA MUM!!! 🤣🤣🤣
There was a poem by Rudyars Kipling called “The Gods Of The Copybook Headings” that was based on that premise. It would take several paragraphs to fully explain, but yeah.
There was no season 8 of GOT.
YOU DID NOT SEE IT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT THERE!!!!
The meme possibilities are endless
YOU DID-DINT!!
there wasn't all I see fiction written by shitty ass dumb and dumber, show ended in season 6.
you are delusional, someone take that man to the infermary
At the end of episode 2 I turned the telly off and thought well that's that then and then imagined the whitewalkers were victorious and turned everyone into zombies which is basically what happened from what I've heard.
thank you for supporting the Chernobyl Children's Project
Yes indeed, bravo!
He's a classy bastard, he is.
Mad props
never knew it existed until this video and just signed up for monthly donations to the project. Thanks, Drinker!
I LOVE THE CCP!!! The charity of course.
Stellan Skarsgaard has a great bit of dialogue, where he asks “You want me to go onto the world stage and humiliate a state that’s obsessed with not being humiliated?”
One of the best shows I have ever watched.
Putin: Nah, it'll be fine....
I think the world stage went from the desire to humiliate to the desire to face-punch in 1986.
Well, Stellan is Swedish so he has a healthy dose of caution in him as far as Russia's concerned.
This show is more of a “horror movie” than just about any modern horror movie. It’s absolutely terrifying. Knowing what’s happening but watching people live through it without knowing what’s really happening.
"Nah, it'll be fine." Gets me every time!
I actually want to clip it and make it a meme
Yeah. Me too. “Naaaaa... it’ll be fine.” I laugh every time.
Best use of it eveeer.
I was a kid living near Pryp'iat' when the forth nuclear reactor exploded. Both of my parents worked at that Nuclear Power Plant. My sister went to school in Pryp'iat' on April 26, 1986. Nobody told us nothing about the danger. Moreover, those, who wanted to leave Pryp'iat' for personal reasons weren't allowed to do so. Only after more than 36 hours after the disaster, on sunny Sunday evacuation begun. We were told that the evacuation is only a "temporally measure" and that we will come back to our homes on the next day, after they'll "clean up" Pryp'iat'. Well, more than 30 years have passed since that promise. They told us nothing about the level of radiation, neither gave us potassium iodide. My parents, who went back as so-called "liquidators" told me that even in the May of 1986 they were deceived about the radioactivity level and didn't receive potassium iodide. Most of their colleagues are dead by now. There were lie everywhere and about everything.
The mini-series nailed most of that lies and show its consequences. The criminal and cowardice nature of the soviet government, the incompetence and fear of big and small "bosses" without proper education, but with big ambitions. The fear and meanness of careerists with black souls, ready to lie to the last and easily sacrifice others. Especially easily such liars are willing to sacrifice others. The conscript soldiers and reservists (which were called "partisans" by liquidators) who were sent to the roof to clear it from graphite are mostly dead by now. These "bio-robots" were sometimes misused, worked over the "safe" time, sent back more and more. Such dehumanization is terrifying. Evacuated people not only lost their homes and all their previous lives - they were doomed to diseases and "stigmatization" by society. Their lives were divided on "before" and "after" the disaster. In the May, 1986 along the roads near Pryp'at' lay a lot of shot dogs - it was heartbreaking to see, my mother recalls. She was looking for our dog among those dead bodies.
Soviet atmosphere and life recreated as thoroughly as possible. Total lies, cowardice, incompetence and inhumanity of the system and its functionaries evoke memories and is as frighten as a revived corpse enchanted by necromancers from HBO. Craig Mazin has created a spiritualistic seance under the guise of the mini-series. The degree of immersion and horror is amazing. No horror film is capable of what reality is capable of. Musical accompaniment, background noises, absurdity and madness of what is happening on the screen, the doom of the performers of someone else's will, going to suffering and death. And the total lie of all and about everything. All of these shown by wonderful actors cast, with tense dramatization, perfect ambient sounds and music. Deep and haunting show, with excellent balance between staying true to the real story and keeping audience in suspense despite the fact that we all know how the story ends.
Among the shortcomings, I will note the “necessary evil” of political correctness - the fictional character of Uliana Khomiuk, the whole line of which is extremely “Mary Sue-ish” and annoying. Exaggerations with the miners, the overly glorification of Legasov and Shcherbina, etc, but all these don't spoil the main idea of the film. By the way, the design flaws of the reactor were indicated and specialists warned about the danger of the “koncevoy effect” and the need to modernize rods and fuel channels in reactor. Latest warning was in 1983 (all secret of course). But the NPP had to be commissioned by May 1, 1984. The soviet bosses liked to time everything for the communist celebrations. That timed. Only after the disaster did they begin to correct the shortcomings that they had been hearing about back in the 1970s (still hiding the truth).
"The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no longer recognize the truth at all". The whole soviet system was build on lies, on denial of truth. All we are eager to believe in convenient lies rather than to accept painful truth. And sooner or later such ignorance of reality inevitably leads us to collision with it - the real world reminds about itself ruthlessly to those, who are willing to live in dreams instead of reality. But when the lies became building material for the whole political system, the manifestation of truth can became catastrophic.
Truth is like radiation - it is invisible and you can easily deny its existence until you begin to vomit and die from radiation sickness or, if “lucky”, from cancer.
"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" John 8:32. Or live in lies, in illusions, slaves of fear, and it will truly crush you. Everyone decide for themselves.
P.S. Complains about the absence of "Russian language" are ridiculous - locals spoke Russian at best with their national accents. In small villages locals spoke Ukrainian or Belorussian or mixed both languages. Thereby one essential factor was missed in the mini-series. As liquidators joked with grim humor, in Pryp'iat' Moscow wanted to extinguish all the national minorities - in 1986 conscripts from Latvia were "thrown" to Pryp'iat', in 1987 - conscripts from Central Asia. The local population were Ukrainian with nearby Belorussians. Moscow didn't care much, because population of Russia did not suffer at all in a result of that stupid experiment conducted by the order of Moscow bosses on the reactor designed with engineering miscalculations. When it exploded, mostly Ukrainians and Belorussians suffered, with other national minorities sent there as conscripts.
WOW! Thank you for your story of personal experience.
...and there it is.
Excelsior, my friend.
Incredible example why strong governments are dangerous and we should live in societies where individual freedoms are as extensive as possible.
Mind blowing read my heart goes out to you. Thanks for taking the time to share you have my total respect friend.
That's a lot to take in. Good read...
“ Not comfortable profiting from a tradegy like this...” You Sir, are a Gentleman and a Scholar in a ‘world’ filled with Lookatme-ers. Subbed
It’s great that you called out the “blame culture” mentality in “Chernobyl”. I use this example at work all the time by comparing the blame culture of “Chernobyl” to the problem-solving culture you see in “Apollo 13”. It goes to show what happens when you punish people for telling the truth or taking action in good faith.
That blame culture brought the Soviet Union down 4 years later. Because no leader wanted to be blamed, so there was no initiative to improve the lives of ordinary Soviets citizens. So those citizens became disillusioned and turned to politicians who promoted nationalism. Which destroyed the Soviet Union from the inside out. All 15 Soviet Republics became independent nations.
Its interesting. In aviation accidents investigators go to great length NOT to assign personal blame. Almost all disasters happen because of multiple mistakes by multiple people (certainly true of Chernobyl). The focus is on making sure it doesn't happen again and finding "who is to blame" and punishing them gets in the way of that by preventing candour. We should be thinking a lot more like that for ALL accidents - even everyday road smashes.
Very good observation. I hope we can always maintain the Problem Solving culture in our country.
"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid."
As good of a line as that sounds, how true is it really? Take China and the corona virus with them lying for months about it, nobody will ever call them out on it and they got away cleanly with the lie, EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE KNEW IT WAS A LIE, because people were more interested in blaming it all somehow on Trump.
@@thehoerscorral8565 wow.. China is being called out constantly for Covid and Trump was blamed for his response to the virus.. not creating it. You need to find a new less bitchy narrative. But I guess you could use the incitement of an insurrection of our Capitol and then never getting in any trouble for that incitement. That would be a much better comparison.
Sherald Hill 100 truth
@@thee_morpheus thanks Matrix guy
@@sheraldhill2728 "Haha yes lets jerk ourselves off over how smart we are 100 truth le memes am I right fellow neckbeards? You sound like morons. And speaking of bitchy narratives? Changing the subject to whining about Orange Man not getting 'in any trouble' when it's not even up to him? Did he personally sneak into congress and make all those R senators spineless and vote Nay?
Talk about whining and bitching LMAO.
"...fatal radiation dose in the matter of minutes..."
A second. Literally a second in the case of those poor bastards who looked into the heart of the core. Same with the poor wanker who was ordered to check for graphite on the roof. God, that first episode was so hard to watch knowing they were being sent to their doom.
And those that weren't incapacitated Immediately had to keep working and help with the liquidation
The scene when they look into the open burning fire gave me a feeling of looking directly into hell.
Its crazy that the dude that held the door open survived.
Yep and yet the three guys who went underneath survived for a long while. Two are still alive today.
Your right 2 of the divers are still alive
My parents, who were born and raised in Soviet Union (Soviet Ukraine and then Moldova, to be exact), found this show to be very realistic and impressive.
And as russian speaker and someone who lives in ex-Soviet country, I had zero problem with actors sounding "too British". The story, the visuals, the actors play, the soundtrack and stuff had me from the first minute, so minor things like accents wasn't the matter anymore.
Just have to remember that this show isn't a documentary, and it doesn't have to be, there were a lot of documentaries about that already. It's drama, and a well done one.
Sorry for my bad English.
Your english was totally fine!
@@cameronspence4977 Thanks. :)
Thank you.
My wife was born a year after the explosion and survived her battle with AML two years ago. We also have Ukrainian and Moldovan heritage. Slava Ukraini
@@slangterm Героям слава.
"And the chief engineer is all like 'Nah it'll be fine comrades' "
So damn true
One of the most disturbing and infuriating things you can watch is modern interviews with the actual Chief Engineer. (I'm not sure if he is still around, but he was in the 90's and 2000'sish.) He still suffers from a complete and utter failure to comprehend reality or accept any responsibility. "We did nothing wrong" etc. He almost seems to claim that the entire incident was simply a pack of lies.
@@andrewtaylor940 There were technically two engineers on charge. Deputy chief engineer Anatoly Dyatlov ( who was in the control room, and was the one who ordered them to not use official reccomendations for safety) and Nikolai Fomin, chief engineer, who decided to go to bed that night rather than oversee personally. Dyatlov died of heart failure in 1995, Fomin is still alive, and the chief builder (also convicted for 10 years for failure to follow safety standards) died a month ago.
"For God's sake Boris, you were the one that mattered most" hit me in the feels hard. Skaarsgard was monumental.
"out of a whole committee of obedient fools, they mistakenly sent the one capable man"
His disgust and anger when the bomb robot failed because the USSR didn’t tell the Germans the actual level of radiation was epic!
@@bryanm5233 One of my favourite scenes. That's when you knew the guy had heart.
"they heard me but they listened to you".
Boris was the man they sent, because they felt the disaster was not serious. Had they known the true severity, the Central Committee would have sent a Party shill whose main job would have been to deny the extent of the disaster and make the Party look good. By accident, the Committee sent the one man who could actually fix things.
The scene of clearing the roof of the reactor was one of the most intense things I’ve ever seen.
The ending of the first episode was also horrifying.
Nah, when the divers go in the basement, and the torches failed with the geiger counters going nuts scared the shit out of me
@@MontyPython12 Its like a horror movie without the monster. Like some otherworldly power creeping through the walls, killing everything it can get it's hold on.
Really creepy stuff, because it's real.
I kept holding my breath. 😲
D S moron
It's amazingly decent of you to donate all financial gains you make from this video to the Chernobyl Children Project. You, sir, are a kind person after all. Thank you!
I was in Japan during the 2011 Fukushima disaster and did disaster aid not long after in the Fukushima region. Walking through the abandoned towns and areas, while constantly checking the Geiger counter, you feel something is wrong but everything looks perfectly normal and peaceful.
It's the strangest, most eery feeling I ever experienced and probably ever will. And this show felt so real, it perfectly portrayed how people will react to radiation ... with completely unawareness.
Valery Legasov : Dyatlov broke every rule we have. He pushed a reactor to the brink of destruction. He did these things believing there was a failsafe: AZ-5, a simple button to shut it all down. But in the circumstances he created, there wasn't. The shutdown system had a fatal flaw. At 1:23:40, Akimov engages AZ-5. The fully-withdrawn control rods begin moving back into the reactor. These rods are made of boron - which reduces reactivity - but not their tips. The tips are made of graphite, which accelerates reactivity.
Judge Milan Kadnikov : Why?
Valery Legasov : Why? For the same reason our reactors do not have containment buildings around them, like those in the West. For the same reason we don't use properly enriched fuel in our cores. For the same reason we are the only nation that builds water-cooled, graphite-moderated reactors with a positive void coefficient.
Valery Legasov : It's cheaper.
fucking government
Spot on!
They had to know the truth because they could not have it happen again. But the did not want to know the truth because it incriminated the Communist system and so they victimised the man they got to find out the truth.
No amount of time in the gulag could freeze that merciless burn.
Great point. Safety always go behind expenses and if question is why then is either ass or cash. That is what I learned.
HBO: You thought GOT was a disaster? Lemme show you a real disaster."
Wuhoo. Thats dark man. I like it.
if you mean the representation of events and whole smearing of russians as a disaster - when I will agree. I am a Russian by the way
@@dana5757 Did you feel like they smeared russians? I felt fuckin patriotic to the soviet union after I watched chernobyl and im not even russian lol
@@sawtoothgrind1981 could it be that you are wrong and do not understand anything, and know nothing and believe everything that has been shown? I am russian and I am telling you they smeared russians
@@dana5757 you're one Russian. Not the entire country.
This was by far the SCARIEST thing I have ever seen, because it was real.
@Criminals rule the world now! ye from what iv heard threads beats out all
I know! Episode 3 was horrifying because it was actual suffering that actual people went through.
The word in the English language is "HARROWING"... This series was the most harrowing experience I've ever had. More than fear, more than dread, it's the highest amount of all of those feelings one can possibly experience and still survive. Just sharing that the characters you're viewing are going through the MOST awful, horrible, mind-melting terrifying experience a human being can ever know... My worst nightmares are never as bad as what the real people depicted in this story lived and died feeling...
It wasn't all real. The female scientist was made up, to push feminist propaganda.
Yes, it was scary, I was 16 years old at the time. First we made jokes about Chernobyl:
1. Do you know there is a new radio station from the Soviet Union?
2. No, what it the station's name?
1. Radio.....Active.
But later when live stock was being killed and maybe iodine tablets are going to be distributed, we got scared.
They're still worried about the "Elephant's Foot" finally breaking through into the water supply one day. That's one part they didn't mention in the series, but that would be the melted remains of Reactor #4 that oozed into the basement. After initially photographing it with a manually-pushed dolly/camera, they tried to lower a man on ropes to snap a picture of it and then hoist him back up. He still died of a lethal radiation dose a few days later.
"Of all the ministers - deputies - entire congregation of obedient fools - they mistakenly sent the one good man. For God's sake, Boris... You were the one who mattered most".
God, what a line.
"they heard me. they listen to you."
@ab3defC8ijkmnmopqrxt Wow talk about about a totally random outburst.
You do realize Abbas Khan never made any claims that it was a documentary or even any speculations of how factual the show was right?
Yeah Abbas Khan, that mini series had a lot of memorable well written and delivered lines.
I still get chills ever time with the final line on the final bit of dialog in the closing shot on the last episode. "What is the cost of lies?"
This line won it for me.
The part when they're flying over to the reactor, and it seems that Boris is yet another arrogant thickheaded apparatchik who won't listen to the physicist; and then when they meet the plant management he uses the small amount of information he gained to great effect in bowling over the plant managers trying to minimize the accident. Brilliant character development.
This show was amazing. No filler, no bullshit. Just straight progression from start to finish with shocking revelation.
Yeah, it was really badass. I don't think anyone saw such badassery coming with this one.
It is a must-see. I'm still thinking about it. Great, now I have to watch it again.
definitely going to see this !
this is your best video yet, too bad we can't send the snowflakes, SJW & LGBT over to learn a lesson !
Me : I'll never see something better than Game of Thrones ...
HBO : Hold my Graphite!
Oh God..You must be a total idiot to enjoy and believe such a cheap fake story about balalaika , drunk russian and other classical USA-movie-cliche trash. Just look for the interview from real people who worked to stop radioactive contamination. And be ashamed.
The guy who drove the truck to measure the radiation level near the power plant was a veteran of Stalingrad and survived into old age
Americans be like: can't wait for second season
Ucranians be like: 😶
Fukushima 2 crazy boongalow
Ukrainians. That's how we spell it.
@@SundraTanakoh He's Italian. In his language "українець" is "ucraino".
@@BlacktoothgrinUA interesting
@@sk8erbyern you're
I loved the part where Spock gives his life by entering the reactor core and fixes it.
I hope he gives it a good kicking like Kirk did that one time 🙃
Miiikkkkhhhhaaaaiiiiilllll !!!!!
"I have been... and always shall be... your comrade."
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Already finished it, and it was something special to watch. Thanks for reviewing it and recommending it! Good on you for the donation of revenue to those kids directly affected by it.
Do you know that this show is 80% lies.
RIP Paul Ritter - a very underrated actor.
What the fuck. He's dead? He's only in his early to mid fifties, or something. Jesus.
This news is not great, but terrible.
Awww we lost Dyatlov!
@@ferdinand5223 He died of a brain tumur
Meanwhile Dyatlov should've already been dead from radiation before he even came to Chernobyl.
The storyline of the firefighter and his wife are absolutely heartbreaking. 2 episodes end on their behalf and the soundtrack during these scenes is absolutely brilliant and haunting.
fireMAN
Episode 1: "Puking and Dying"
Episode 2: "What Do I Know? I'm Just A Nuclear Physicist"
Episode 3: "We Need A Big Ass Hole"
Episode 4: "Old Yeller"
Episode 5: "A Tragedy of This Magnitude Must Be Somebody's Fault"
Old Yeller got me
@@chadh0nkleton774 That's a very old joke, I was wondering if anyone would get it
lol
You made my day sir
@@kemalcalsr7591 I'm happy to hear it!
Dying by turning into a corpse one cell at a time must be the absolute worst way to go. Rest in Peace :'(
Professor Legasov giving his testimony was alone more immersive than the actions scenes in today's superhero movies
This really was storytelling at it's best. Gory, well acted and gripping, you'll want to see it more than once.
Just wish it had been done with proper colour balance rather than that washed-out look.
People said the same thing about the different English accents in 'The Death of Stalin'. Then it was pointed out how it was a pretty good way to represent the vastness of the Soviet Union where people obviously would have spoken with different Russian accents.
Chernobyl feels like a darker sequel to The Death of Stalin
ROBOHOLIC1 Well when you think about it, "The Death of Stalin" was the start of the Cold War. And Chernobyl ended it
@@naughtydog201 or the begining of the end of the cold war? Kruschev could see what a macabre pantomime the revolution had become. He was ousted within ten years by a fossilised Bresnev - the man who never smiled in 40 years. Now THAT'S real fear of denouncement.
@andy jarman kruschev was the guy who decided kennedy was weak and started building nuclear silos in cuba. That was hardly the first step toward ending the cold war.
@@mnemonija Hate to be that guy, but the crisis begins with U.S. Missiles in Turkey, so blame should be directed towards both sides.
Best Mini Show ever made hands down. This show does something real Radiation can't do. You can feel it, smell it and see it. A masterpiece
That moment when we and the two engineers are looking straight into the burning open core.... Its like you're looking straight in the face of death
Agreed. That bit made my blood run cold. The weird sinking feeling set in my stomach, but man, it left me in horrified awe.
@@Tallimme the show has a lot of these intense moments
You can see their faces turn red in seconds.
When the two engineers looked into the destroyed core, it’s as if they were looking into the face of death or the pit of hell.
@@johnnumber1 that's what I said
For me, it was the acting. I swear, for a moment, I thought I was in the 80s, watching people from the 80s. It was so realistic and brilliantly acted by all actors.
I was in my early 20s when this happened, I remember the "mystery" of what it was at first when the first started detecting the radioactive elements spreading into Europe, with the USSR first trying to deny & then deflect as it became more and more obvious where it was coming from before they finally admitted it.
Stayed tuned for a miniminiseries on Three Mile Island. It's a ten minute episode where no one dies after some steam gets out.
Yes, because the entire US Nuclear energy industry draws men from the USN Nuke school graduates, Meaning they still have many, these days in Senior positions, who got the Rickover school of extreme ownership and no fuckups.
If Admiral Rickover was to run Chernobyl Power plant, he would take one stroll around and shut the place down for months to retrain the entire staff and send the worst offenders to GULAG (yes I know that GULAG as an organisation ceased to operate in the early fifties, but a lot of people from Chernobyl management would end up the furthest away from anything nuclear if Rickover would be in charge)
@@michalsoukup1021 It has as much to do with the reactor designs we use in the US as the operators. We use water as both a coolant and a moderator, so if you boil away the water, you also lose the moderator that's slowing the fast neutrons down to facilitate the chain reaction.
NEVER turn off your safety systems. And ALWAYS believe your instruments until you've proven them faulty
@@williamnoll7935 Remember, their instruments were purposefully bad. Like the radiation detector that only went to 3.6 roentgens (which is not great, not terrible). In the soviet system, even the very equipment itself lies.
@@danielscully3952 I know you are typing but I am not sure you know the meaning of anything you are typing.
>That mission in CoD
>No STALKER mention
Bruh...
that is what makes stalker special. filthy casuals will never get to experience it as its not popular
It was cheap and I LIKED IT!
Such is life in the Zone.
Yeah i was waiting for him to mention STALKER....
I was thinking he would mention Stalker. But no... Call of duty.
Watched it 3 times start to finish.
When I saw Jared Harris in The Expanse I was so happy.
They made a great companion podcast with the writer. They explain the ways they adapted the history for the screen and why they made the choices. They said that since this series is so obsessed with the result of lie, they wanted to be transparent as possible. Properly good.
"The truth can get you killed"
China would like to know your location.
Didn't the USA say that China created a climate change hoax or something? LOL
Well China is the biggest polluter on the planet
@asdf Yeah, that makes it all safer.... smh
Its mainly the upper class here that runs the country since they can spread the word better
@asdf Lol, that _doesn't_ make it SAFER though, now does it??? S.A.F.E.R. Wow, I can't believe someone really does need to spell it out for you... You know, it's rare to find someone that is actually as stupid as they sound. Congrats?
So. Damn. Good.
The scariest stories are the true ones.
nah, the scariest ones are believable lies and lies with some truth mixed in like this anti-soviet propaganda.
@@dimas3829 “Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.” Mark Twain.
Dima S The truth was always the enemy of the Soviet murder machine.
It's not that true though, the claim that Europe would be uninhabitable is nonsense.
Hirnlego999 they never said uninhabitable, and I very much believe it would have drastically affected most Europe if left unfixed
I knew a Ukrainian family who moved to the U.S. (Cleveland) after the Soviet Union fell. They lived outside of Kiev, not all that far from Chernobyl. One of their daughters, who was eight months old when Chernobyl occurred, eventually died of cancer at 22. I'm convinced the explosion had something to do with it.
Well duh.
I'm an engineering student who did a fair bit of nuclear power stuff. My lecturer advised me to watch this show, because in the last episode there is the best explanation of how that type of reactor works ever. To the extent that one of his industry friends learned how a reactor works, one of the reactors he works on!
Small correction: Chernobyl went prompt supercritical, not critical. Going critical itself is not bad, nuclear power plants run at (delayed) critical when at power. Critical just means that the fission reaction is self sustaining (k=1), every neutron absorbed or lost is replaced by a new one. Then you have delayed vs prompt. Delayed neutrons are important for power generation, being generated between a few milliseconds to a minute, as they're the ones that are slow enough to respond to. Prompt neutrons are generated in 10^(-14) seconds, much to quickly to deal with. Hence why power plants go delayed critical, or critical with delayed neutrons. Going prompt critical is a bad day, as when the delayed neutrons catch up you're going to see a power spike.
Now on to supercritical vs critical. Supercritical means K>1, or that the fission reaction is growing. More neutrons are being made than absorbed, so power will rise. When controlled, this isn't a bad thing. Raise power, balance out, maintain delayed critical (and prompt subcritical).
Chernobyl, on the other hand, went prompt supercritical. You have a huge power spike (then followed by another power jump when the delayed neutrons hit), which led to fuel damage, boiling of the moderator (water), and an over-pressurization of the reactor vessel; which then resulted in the steam explosion that shat spent fuel all over the place.
Alzeron Thanks for telling me things I can’t understand!
wow that changes everything thanks
As much as I would love to understand I think the gist is it had a out of control reaction where as you can have it critical but still controlled.
We get it: Wikipedia is a thing XD
It was a terrible design there was not enough absorbent material to mop up the leaking energy produced. Most western designs have this for safety concerns but the soviets never considered a tragedy on such scale as they did not have the funds
Was it human Error?
Technical failure?
Or something more sinister?
Yes.
It was terrorism.
Human Factors plain and simple. The man in charge of the test did not understand nuclear physics well enough to judge the safety of any nuclear reactor and the human system above him didn't give a damn if they new enough to understand that the timing of that test was a terrible idea in the first place.
The man put in charge was not a nuclear physics, and hw was more concerned for the realization of the test, becaue he wanted to please the hire ups, for fear of loosing his and the team bons, wich could be as valuable as 50% of their pays.
So they continue with the test, even when the reactor number 4, have a history of not working very well even sometimesalred have problems with it.
Finaly when shit hit the fans, bad training, and lack of actual experience and practicce, make them not able to respond and everithing well goes boom
It was likein many accidents a mix of everithing.
From the bad dfesign of the reactor, to the lakc of preparation and traiing of the personel.
Before the history channel become a reality tv thing, it pass a lot of documentaries about these things and they show very clearly what happen
Human stupidity and politics. It was stupidity that made humans use a reactor-design meant for submarines, on land. And by the way: That's true for all mainstream reactors around the world: They all use water as a moderator and coolant, which is like cooling a borderline runaway reaction in a pressure-cooker.
Then you got stupidity in how the accident was triggered, and once a proper catastrophe was ongoing, politicians ensured maximum damage.
@@lyxar777 You do know that the RBMK design that exploded there DOESNT use water as a moderator (but graphite) and that it wouldnt have happend if it did, right? No?
Well as soon as the water starts to boil, there is no liquid water where the bubble is. So there is no moderation there. Reactivity goes down. Thats a negative void coefficient.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Void_coefficient
This show was absolutely stunning. One of the best things I have EVER watched.
I can remember when it actually happened and have always been fascinated by it.
A great insight into the events and outcomes of a truly tragic incident. I watched the complete series while flying overseas. I was hanging on every moment due how well the show was made. It was done so well it just kept drawing you in further and further as it went along. You couldn't help but feel for the people effected by such a devastating event and with what some of them gave up to get the jobs done that need to be done.
'Chernobyl' was a masterclass in filmmaking. The acting was SUBLIME. Watched every episode twice even though I'm busy as hell. Bully to HBO for continuing to bring us great product.
It hurts when productions like this come out in a sea of otherwise shit.
except they invented a female scientist to push feminist b.s.
Wow. You actually moved me to tears with that beautiful gesture at the end. I have a new found respect for you man.
yea he will send all 3 dollars there
@@johnbane6199 fuck u 3 dollars more thaN u chump
The only big inaccuracy I saw in Chernobyl was the hospital scene showing the firemen were isolated to protect the staff from radiation. In reality they were isolated to protect them from the staff, as the radiation poisoning left them with destroyed immune systems and extremely vulnerable to infection.
you didn't notice the totally fabricated female superwoman scientist?
There are moments that crystallize the true meaning of horror. For me, the worst was watching the second plane flying into the second tower in NYC on 9/11 knowing that hundreds of real people had died in front of my eyes.
I remember the coverage of Chernobyl well and I recall the helicopters flying so close dropping fire retardant into the burst open reactor. I knew those men were dying too. A haunting moment.
I will be watching this series but with real forboding. My tiny homage to bravery incarnate.
I work for a streaming service and this show is saving HBO's ass. So many people are chatting and calling in after HBO shit the bed with GOT.
They should thank their lucky stars that they've scored a hit with this excellent show.
This is a masterpiece, my HBO favorite show, after Band of Brothers
I so bloody loved it and I *WON'T* watch it again
Feel the same. Rarely do you watch anything that goes on for hours and are basically perfect in every thinkable way.
From acting, pacing, direction, cinematography, effect, to sound fx and music (or lack of).
10 out of 10.
They should have given all the Band of Brothers Australia accents.....
Seriously? best HBO show....Sopranos?
From The Earth To The Moon was pretty excellent too.
My thoughts exactly ... Subbed! PS ... (The "RBMK reactor cores don't explode - Change my mind" pic made me spit my coffee out! Laughed so hard, I spotted!) Well done! Skal, ^v^
Thank you for the recommendation Drinker! 👍 I've watched several documentaries about the accident itself but it's good to see everything that came afterwards (...and is still happening).
We need more LIMITED series. The best of TV & Cinema.
i watched sharp objects and the young pope the last couple of years, and yeah i gotta say mini series are a great medium. conciseness of a movie with enough time to give the story more breathing room
@@kefkapalazzo1 Sharp Objects was mind blowingly good.
@@jacobhiller6731 facts. i keep putting the book off though. at least its in the house
Avatar: The Last Airbender
As a nuclear physicist, I was pretty damned impressed by how accurate the depictions and explanations of the causes were were
I dont get to ask nuclear physicists to many questions so here goes: If Chernobyl Scores at "10" on the nuclear disaster scale, (a) what did Fukishima score??(b) do you think there are similar cover ups going on there? (c) will we end up with a similar mini series in 25 years from now?
@@MrRugbylane Fukushima is rated at the same scale as Chernobyl and managed to leak a lot of radioactive water in the ocean.
@@MrRugbylane a) I'd say a 5. There were 3 meltdowns, but they were inside proper containment buildings (so the radiological output was orders of magnitude less). The only reason it happened was because the idiots running the plant cheaped out on flood defences (closer plants with adequate sea walls were fine) and they were silly enough to keep their backup diesel generators (for the pumps) in the basement. Chernobly was a demonstrably dangerous (reckless) reactor design (RBMK) which was operated in the most insane manner in the events leading up to the incident. If you want to know more details about why Fukushima happened I'd recommend TH-cam searching "Understanding the accident of Fukushima Daiichi" - "/watch?v=YBNFvZ6Vr2U"
b) no, post Fukushima the IAEA has been far more vigilant (w/ greater powers). Anything anywhere near the scale of Three Mile Island or Windscale would be detected very soon.
c) Potentially, I don't know what would be the point after this great mini-series.
They probably paid a grad student $5,000 to double check the script
thunderf00t is saying they didnt do so well in some of it. Mainly about the molten core causing a nuclear explosion if it hit water.he mentions this video as well.
Great video man!! After hearing your donation I cried. I remember watching it unfold on tv in the 9th grade. Thanks drinker for a must watch “Drinker Recommends”!! Keep the faith and stay safe! James
I am an arm chair nuclear and former nuclear submarine reactor technician... and I can categorically say this series filled every one of my holes with glee and satisfaction... like a late night out navy pissup in Portsmouth...
I truly loved this and dont think there could have been much more inserted withought loosing some of the audience... so thumbs up 👍 and great review
I want to read your book.
no
wut
I want to be listen to him read his book. In this voice.
At least buy him dinner first.
Who was a greater villian?
The night king
Or
A chuck of the reactor core?
the guy that would fire his subordinate for reminding him about safety measures
@@JohnDoe-ug3su that dude killed more people, and has a lasting legacy of pain and misery.
Arya can't stab it. Because irl there was no magic, no heroes, just people of flesh and blood.
@@manhphuc4335 along with you
William Shalden Ambassing Yep me and my communist self deserve that XD. For the Greater Good.
Simply a brilliant piece of TV. And goes just a little way in bringing to light the heroic efforts and sacrifice so many made to avoid an even worse disaster. The world owes them and their families a debt of gratitude.
To bad it's more of propoganda flic full of lies.
I love how the guy in the control room says it's a "safe design" when the Chernobyl reactors were infamous for poor technical engineering. I'll have to watch this series sometime. I've long had an interest in nuclear physics and am very interested in the history of the Chernobyl plant.
“It will not stop. Not in a week, a month. It will burn and spread its poison until the entire continent is dead”
That whole scene was amazing. The realization that the one guy was right and this was a serious situation was down very well.
Me after GOT S8: I give up on HBO.
Drinker: Chernobyl
Me: Aw shit here we go again!
@ that Soprano's reference gets me everytime
"The Series starts with a bang... Literally"
Understatement
What’s crazy is the meltdown affected the rest of Europe. Experts described it as a radiation cloud. I remember reading that the Princess Bride cast was evacuated due to fears of contamination.
This show made me replay all S.T.A.L.K.E.R games
I am from Ukraine, want to thank you for your support and words 🇺🇦💛💙
Also i want add that every year during high, middle and senior school we have evacuation training on April 26 that's the results of our tragedy of Chernobyl
@@andyone7616 You're welcome!
Oh, you weren't talking to me? Sorry.
How are things over there? We don't hear about Crimea or any of that in the news anymore because apparently what Donald Trump is thinking about on the toilet with his twitter account open is more important.
Ukraine soil is fertile. That's all I know about the country.
@@reshpeck Don't rely on TV news to inform you. Do some research yourself and you'll know what's going on around the world. Plenty of articles and videos available.
I know of a great thing in Chernobyl.
It's called S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
EXCELLENT series! What a well-written and acted mini-series. I watched the play by play on TV.
Best one in a while
Guys, I'm from Ukraine and this series is fucking masterpiece. It hits like a truck even tho I love drama and used to it. We love this show here.
You folks are the bravest people on the planet, my hat is off to you!
@scuba Steve I am from Ukraine, it is easy to check, I suffer from chronic illness I got in spring of 86 and I was stunned by this show.
@@alanhall9506 And that was 3 years ago...
It's good of you to donate to the Chernobyl children's project, we have had Belorussian kids coming to my little Derbyshire town annually since the 90s for a few weeks to recuperate and boost their immune systems, they're always very friendly and grateful for a change of scenery, good on you.
One of my favorite scenes is when Legasov tells Gorbachev the sheer scope of what will need to be done and how much it will cost, and you see Gorbachev trying to process it.
gorbachev was a bastard. he admitted later that he actively worked to destroy the very country he was supposed to lead...
Honestly my favourite part of this series is that they chose actors, not 20-30 something models to portray the main/composite characters. They chose people who look like... regular people and had the chops to act this series as it covered the tragedy of Chernobyl #4
I read a few books about Chernobyl. Some are pretty well done. Worth the read.
Birds falling out of the sky ... should we cancel the Parade in Kiev?
Nah...it’ll be fine.
The part like that which struck me was when everything went public, and they're discussing evacuations. No, everything here is fine, BUT meanwhile in Germany, a thousand miles away, they're not letting children leave the house because the measured radiation is too dangerous, a thousand miles downwind...but I'm sure everything HERE, not 1000 miles away, is just fine.
haha 2020 you still believe that cold war crap? at least Comrade Gorbachev did't blame it's from USA and dispatch the task force overnight.
@@xselam1988 Let me put it thusly, the same symptoms as in Germany were present in Czechoslovakia, I know that because my aunt knows folks who were in OUR nuclear programme at the time, they say that for a few days in the Immediate aftermath once the fallout got to us it was definitely unhealthy to be out. Especially to be out and do strenuous activities.
Yes, German's were possibly overcautious and it may be that nothing serious would happen to no child if they haven't issued the restrictions, but in absence of proper data on the subject, would you take that risk unless you would know for sure that it IS bulletproof safe? I would not.
If I was a politician, I would hopefully err on the side of overcaution. Better fuckin safe than sorry.
Michal Soukup man I was talking about covd19, you still believe this is comm vs cap? Is just per leader based. It’s not German vs sov, is just this guy vs that guy
Michal Soukup this whole Capitalism vs XXXX, or democratic vs Xxxxx was the bigger lie, and killed much more people than this nuke
Writer/producer said in Chernobyl podcast (highly recommended) that they don't have Russian accents because then they wouldn't focus on acting but on maintaining the accent. It would stand in the way of their amazing performances and I, as Slavic guy who lives in country the radioactive cloud went through and so this show really touched me a lot, completely agree. Pretending to have Slavic accents sounds in 99.9999% of cases dumb.
Was not expecting that bit at the end, glad I’m subscribed so I didn’t miss this opportunity to donate. I have mad respect for you drinker
I was in Scotland at the Holy Loch/Dunoon sub base when Chernobyl happened. As I recall, the initial assumption was that one of the subs stationed there had a leak. Then, it was realized the contamination was coming from outside, where people walking around Dunoon were tracking contamination back into the ships. WTF? Finally, the source was announced as the USSR. So many farmers had to kill their herds and destroy their crops. And, the USN couldn’t source local food stores anymore for the ships leaving on patrol.
“Go ‘way naow”...what the reactor said to the roof on the fateful day in 1986.
Great review btw; couldn’t agree more!
Alcohol poisoning, Xenon poisoning... easy to mix these two
Best scene is Jared Harris and Stellen Skarsgard during a recess in the trial, episode 5. Portraying two genuine (as in saved the entire world) real heroes as human beings who couldn’t have done it without the other. Fate was very kind.
This series was a masterpiece. Well done HBO. Its amazing what u can do when you totally ignore diversity quotas and woke garbage.
Its amazing that good tv shows and films can still be made nowadays.
not too much "diversity in Ukraine" ;)
What, no African-Americans or just Africans being irradiated on the grounds of Chernobyl? That just can't be! Someone must be cancelled like now, them raysists!
one of the best part about this show is how the exposition of the science jargon is so cleverly done in a way that feels integral to the story and not in a lets take a break of 10m while we explain all this science lore sitting on a couch
I'm not scientist but since I was a kid, I was always aware of the 'invisible fires' that is radiation. And the first episode is something that will stick with me. We see a man forced to check on the reactor core, just to see a pit spewing more than what any human eyes could possibly see or understand, as the flames were not normal. It was as if hell itself opened up and the devil was screaming at the world for the mistakes we have made. And anyone who did look inside, even for a second, would be proof of the essence of hell and the antithesis of human life. And it's nothing that wasn't deserved... the cost of lies is measured in human suffering.
With that being said.. we also witness the very definition of what a hero is and the true good in humanity. The 2 who first went into the flooded basement, knowingly killing themselves in one of the most horrific ways. And even better, the 3 who volunteered to sacrifice their life after. And the beauty is that those 3 lived. And because of them, so did millions of others. 3 men agreed to give their lives to fight hell itself and were in turned gifted life. Perhaps eternal life, because legends never die. And those men saved the world, in contrast to those who almost destroyed it. As humans, we brought hell upon ourselves, but we also fought it, and won. Of corse, not without cost.
Why am I not surprised your not a scientist
its not hell. It´s just not-quite-goldylocks-conditions-for-life-as-we-know-it.
this series cured my season 8 GOT trauma
Perfectly timed to remind people what good story telling and narrative is.
Really? It should have been a genuinely harrowing experience.
Sletzorz u have a problem
@@parisfranz8053 No, I had* a problem, I'm much better now.
I agree that this was probably the best miniseries I have ever watched, and it also had me gripped from the very first minute to the very last. Excellent review as always.
For some reason I thought this would be some kind of spin-off of the horror movie “Chernobyl” with freakish creatures that hunt teenagers exploring the Chernobyl ruins (for some fucking reason)
Decided to give it a watch after this review, and it’s absolutely incredible. Seeing the rapid onset of radiation sickness while children play in the ashes of the explosion is so horrifying and surreal