The customizable clutch on the DCF601 is awesome for delicate work. It literally takes the pressure off the bit and screw head and greatly reduces stripping. Very good for use within the home and the tri light is awesome across the line
Why in the world would you burden those tools with those huge batteries? The whole point of 12V and a dedicated screwdriver specifically is to make it smaller/lighter than the 18V tools. Just put a small 1.5-2.0 Ah battery on there and that will be more than enough power/capacity for most DIYers.
That DeWalt 601 is my most used tool. I rarely need to grab anything else. It's very strong, but if needed on Clutch 1 it is perfect for just about anything. I use it on the gun bench all the time. Perfect tool for 99% of jobs and hobbies around the house/garage.
I would guess that I use the Dewalt DCF601 for more than 75% of tasks, which was a real surprise to me. I love how light the clutch can be set. Originally I picked it up because #1 setting on the DCD791 may light for working with wood, but still has too much bounce from the clutch that it almost acts like an impact when screwing in plastic parts like thermostat housings, new ultra thin and soft aluminum soffit, etc... The 12v Dewalt #1 setting is reliable and light enough that I have no fears about using it to screw in circuit boards. While not the fastest at drilling, it is much nicer to spend time on a ladder with it alone if you only need to drill pilot holes. I am sure that the other brands work great too and I selected Dewalt purely due to local vendor availability.
One underrated cordless screwdriver has to be the M12 brushed screwdriver. It can be found regularly for 79.99 (with two 1.5 batteries and a charger) and for stuff like machine screws, drywall screws, or other light-duty tasks, it's an amazing tool because of how light and handy it is.
@@kcvu7215 It's not even close. It cant keep up with these tools in the video. the m12 fuel may be able to, but it's a much larger tool. the standard m12 is completely outclassed by these tools.
Before watching any of this, I would say the problem around 12v tools is still lack of options. Milwaukee has most things in 12v, except a heat gun. Their soldering iron is great until the thin plastic retaining screw breaks from getting too hot. DeWalt now has excellent 12V tools but there just isn’t the variety yet. Hopefully they keep making them. Makita has good 12V tools, as well, but again they cover just the staples for a power tool kit and that’s it. Then there’s Ryobi. If you can think of it, they make 3 different kinds. Aside from a coffee maker. They got soldering irons (Milwaukee’s is better for the field), heat gun, rotary tool (again Milwaukee’s makes more sense for the field), a vacuum, etc. the only problem is that it’s a larger 18/20V tool. Even the compact Ryobi tools are larger than the other 12V competitors, because it’s still a larger tool and battery. Ideally I’d like for Ridgid or Ryobi (or DeWalt, doesn’t matter) to come out with field-centric tools in 12V sizes. Or for Milwaukee to introduce a few more 12V tools and bring the price down a bit (which we know won’t happen)
I’ve been browsing these vids wanting one for a bit. Bought the Hercules and returned it the next day. I really wanted to like it but you can really see where the extra money goes… immediately went to Lowe’s and grabbed the DCF601 and love it.
I'm a milwaukee dude. Bought the Cd-0 m12 screw driver and was dissapointed. Don't get me wrong. Super awesome screw driver. Strong and sturdy. But small? Nope. Big and clunky and top heavy. You'd have to slap on a 6ah battery to get the balance ok. And the m12 grip is bulky. I'm getting this Dewalt 601
Love my DeWalt 12v tools!!! I would like to try the Hilti.. That’s the only red drill I would get 👍.. They sell velcro straps to hold Milwaukee batteries in 🤣
Only one I have in the video is the dewalt xtreme and I been liking it for small things like hanging chargers and drilling medium size holes into wood @Man Caver Tools
Love the video and your channel. I also love 12v tools but this is one tool I never understood the need for? I personally just use my M12 impact driver on mode 1 or lower the clutch setting on my drill if I need an "electric screwdriver driver". Not trying to be negative just don't understand is all.
I kind of agree. I have the Milwaukee that came in a kit, but rarely use it. The impact driver or drill can do all the same but also so much more. So in order to save space, I only carry the drill and impact drivers and the screw driver stays home almost completely unused.
These tools are for low torque applications, using 1/4 hex bit. The beauty of these tools is, you can set the right clutch setting. Pull the trigger at full speed And move on to the next screw/nut Where it sit just right. This will be much faster and consistent than your impact driver. Where you have to rely on the variable trigger, And hope you don’t over tighten the fastener, or over sink the screw. So you can also do this with the drill. But with the drill, the bit isn’t as secured as the 1/4 hex adapters are, And these tools are much more compact, making it a better fit for tight spaces. But most importantly, having a variety tools is FUN! 😀
I respect you like these low power drills thats basically what they are i have the bosh click it it has the same feature with attachments I honestly think you should have put it in there that by far is my favorite but impact drivers are my thing and like you I love all brands the bosch you just reviewed should made it to # compeat od like to see how strong 💪 it is against the dewalt and three other drivers
I have the DeWalt and Milwaukee. The lack of a low gear on the DeWalt is a negative for me. I got in a spot where I was down to one bar with the DeWalt using a 2AH battery and it couldn't remove a three inch screw, where the Milwaukee could. Yes, that is a rare situation but it still occurred. The low speed is the only thing the Milwaukee leads in though. I prefer the DeWalt overall. I got mine for $99 in a kit with the bag,charger, two 2AH batteries and the screwdriver.
I have the Milwaukee fuel one but I do like the Dewalt , I'm undecided if I need the Dewalt one so my question is if you could only have one of them which one would you choose ?
@@Dale37 I'm glad you said Dewalt , I was looking for any little excuse to go get it , as a Milwaukee and Dewalt tool addict I've realized that wanting is stronger then needing lol so as soon as the raider game is over I'm heading to lowes to pick it up 🙂
Those 12v drivers are my absolute favorites as well. I always have one near me or in my tool bag. I prefer the two speed versions; speed 2 for drilling pilot holes, speed one for driving screws. I have both the milwaukee fuel and new bosch GSR12V-300HX; I love how compact and light the bosch is, but don't like the light; it has a yellow tinge. I love the auto load collet of the milwaukee and how smooth it runs, but I'm not crazy about the heavier weight and size. Milwaukee needs to revamp this one with a smaller body. You gotta get those two to compare. :-) Wera makes collets identical to that hilti one (they call them "rapidapters"); they're amazing. Keep it up. I love your comparison videos.
It would be interesting to see how the Milwaukee M12 screwdriver would fare, as well as the M12 2505-20 4-in-1Installation Tool. In fact, I could lend you my 2505-20 for testing if you do another one. How do I contact you off of here?
Drilling or screwing into wood gives you a reasonably good idea but isn't a highly accurate way of testing these tools. Why not very accurate? 1. Wood varies in density depending on the grain (especially if you hit a knot). 2. If you put lots of screws close together the wood will be compacted, denser and harder to screw into. 3. When driving screws close to the edge of a piece of timber there will be less resistance as the wood can be pushed out of the way more easily. 4. Drilling holes close together (which wasn't featured in this video but just sayin'...) has the same effect as driving screws near the edge of the timber. I'm not criticising the video, like I said it still gives you a reasonable idea of the performance, but if you're trying to decide between 2 tools and the performance is very close I'd ignore the torque and look at other factors to help me decide such as size, ergonomics, durability, price, 'features' etc...
It seems like these would probably still be overkill for precision work or even trim work like installing wall plates. Also you didn't really compare anything but power. Like if you had to pick one for comfort or size or precision or whatever which would it be?
I dont know man I really dont see any advantage to this vs a drill which can adapt more than a hex fitting. You can also buy quick change hex adapters for a reg chuck drill
In theory, size and weight. Adding a hex adapter to a drill (which I definitely have done) makes clearance even more of an issue. I actually don't have one of these, but could see the benefit of having a more compact and light option for simpler, less demanding tasks around the house.
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The customizable clutch on the DCF601 is awesome for delicate work. It literally takes the pressure off the bit and screw head and greatly reduces stripping. Very good for use within the home and the tri light is awesome across the line
Love that makita, I work in maintenance, and this thing has accomplished 95% of all my tasks. Pop Lu's it's really small.
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Why in the world would you burden those tools with those huge batteries? The whole point of 12V and a dedicated screwdriver specifically is to make it smaller/lighter than the 18V tools. Just put a small 1.5-2.0 Ah battery on there and that will be more than enough power/capacity for most DIYers.
That DeWalt 601 is my most used tool. I rarely need to grab anything else. It's very strong, but if needed on Clutch 1 it is perfect for just about anything. I use it on the gun bench all the time. Perfect tool for 99% of jobs and hobbies around the house/garage.
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I really like the light on the DeWalt, but I’m already invested in Milwaukee, and Ryobi.
I have all 3 brands. No regrets
I would guess that I use the Dewalt DCF601 for more than 75% of tasks, which was a real surprise to me.
I love how light the clutch can be set. Originally I picked it up because #1 setting on the DCD791 may light for working with wood, but still has too much bounce from the clutch that it almost acts like an impact when screwing in plastic parts like thermostat housings, new ultra thin and soft aluminum soffit, etc...
The 12v Dewalt #1 setting is reliable and light enough that I have no fears about using it to screw in circuit boards. While not the fastest at drilling, it is much nicer to spend time on a ladder with it alone if you only need to drill pilot holes.
I am sure that the other brands work great too and I selected Dewalt purely due to local vendor availability.
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One underrated cordless screwdriver has to be the M12 brushed screwdriver. It can be found regularly for 79.99 (with two 1.5 batteries and a charger) and for stuff like machine screws, drywall screws, or other light-duty tasks, it's an amazing tool because of how light and handy it is.
I’d agree, i believe that brushed screwdriver can keep up with these brushless that mct has
@@kcvu7215 It's not even close. It cant keep up with these tools in the video. the m12 fuel may be able to, but it's a much larger tool. the standard m12 is completely outclassed by these tools.
Dewalt’s screwdriver is super awesome. Got it and love it
Before watching any of this, I would say the problem around 12v tools is still lack of options. Milwaukee has most things in 12v, except a heat gun. Their soldering iron is great until the thin plastic retaining screw breaks from getting too hot.
DeWalt now has excellent 12V tools but there just isn’t the variety yet. Hopefully they keep making them.
Makita has good 12V tools, as well, but again they cover just the staples for a power tool kit and that’s it.
Then there’s Ryobi. If you can think of it, they make 3 different kinds. Aside from a coffee maker. They got soldering irons (Milwaukee’s is better for the field), heat gun, rotary tool (again Milwaukee’s makes more sense for the field), a vacuum, etc. the only problem is that it’s a larger 18/20V tool. Even the compact Ryobi tools are larger than the other 12V competitors, because it’s still a larger tool and battery.
Ideally I’d like for Ridgid or Ryobi (or DeWalt, doesn’t matter) to come out with field-centric tools in 12V sizes. Or for Milwaukee to introduce a few more 12V tools and bring the price down a bit (which we know won’t happen)
DeWalt surprisingly looks like it crushed the competition
Good to see you back
I’ve been browsing these vids wanting one for a bit. Bought the Hercules and returned it the next day. I really wanted to like it but you can really see where the extra money goes… immediately went to Lowe’s and grabbed the DCF601 and love it.
What's the part number on the hilti extension with the locking collet? I need to buy one.
It’s just a wera rapidaptor in red.
I have a 12v brushed Milwaukee. It isn’t very powerful but does 90% of DIY stuff and it was $50 with a battery.
I have it as well, it is one of my most used tools.
I'm a milwaukee dude. Bought the Cd-0 m12 screw driver and was dissapointed. Don't get me wrong. Super awesome screw driver. Strong and sturdy.
But small? Nope. Big and clunky and top heavy. You'd have to slap on a 6ah battery to get the balance ok. And the m12 grip is bulky.
I'm getting this Dewalt 601
im not a fan on how big the handles are on most of the m12 tools
@@ManCaverTools Yeah but I guess that is what you get when you glock 17 the battery up there. 🤷♂️
Neat Makita 12v. Personally my 12v tools are Milwaukee no complaints plenty of power💥
Hilti looks awesome and 2 speeds ;)
Right on the money Dave. I love my extreme set up. I do need to get the 5amp battery
It makes a difference. Id say about 10-20 percent more power, on the small dcf902 impact wrench.
Yeah the 5ah battery is a significant increase in power👍🏻
What is the difference between these and just using the m12 fuel hammer drill on drill mode?
these are specifically for smaller jobs. they are shorter because they don't need a chuck on them.
@@ManCaverTools so no drilling. Is it a better value to get a drill/driver then? Trying to avoid tool creep...
the bosch GSR 12V-35 FC (in europe or GSR12V-300FCB22 in the usa) is the one to watch
Them 12v are nice to be doing light work not having to be using a full size all day makes the job easier.
They're amazing for woodworking/cabinet making.
It’d be nice to see you get the M12 Fuel 2402 and do a battle between the 4 of them.
Anyone have a model number for the black japanese version of that makita?
That makita Is Nice @Man Caver Tools
Love my DeWalt 12v tools!!! I would like to try the Hilti.. That’s the only red drill I would get 👍.. They sell velcro straps to hold Milwaukee batteries in 🤣
Only one I have in the video is the dewalt xtreme and I been liking it for small things like hanging chargers and drilling medium size holes into wood @Man Caver Tools
Love the video and your channel. I also love 12v tools but this is one tool I never understood the need for? I personally just use my M12 impact driver on mode 1 or lower the clutch setting on my drill if I need an "electric screwdriver driver". Not trying to be negative just don't understand is all.
The brushed Bosch pocket driver is another great tool for the DIYer
Dude I thought I was the only one!
I kind of agree. I have the Milwaukee that came in a kit, but rarely use it. The impact driver or drill can do all the same but also so much more. So in order to save space, I only carry the drill and impact drivers and the screw driver stays home almost completely unused.
These tools are for low torque applications, using 1/4 hex bit.
The beauty of these tools is, you can set the right clutch setting. Pull the trigger at full speed And move on to the next screw/nut Where it sit just right.
This will be much faster and consistent than your impact driver. Where you have to rely on the variable trigger, And hope you don’t over tighten the fastener, or over sink the screw.
So you can also do this with the drill. But with the drill, the bit isn’t as secured as the 1/4 hex adapters are, And these tools are much more compact, making it a better fit for tight spaces.
But most importantly, having a variety tools is FUN! 😀
Don't play with the chuck especially in tight spaces...
Wish the 12v Metabo with the 1/4 quick adapter (like the Hilti) was featured.
I got the Dewalt 12v and the UK version of the Makita 12v brushless. 👍🏻
I have the Milwaukee multi head and it's pretty awesome @Man Caver Tools
The perfect DIY _drink._
Love my 2 speed fuel screwdriver
Nice 👍
Nice to have...Someday💯❤️
For somebody that loves 12v, still no milwaukee 2402-20 video? Please do video soon
I gotta get that tool
I an honestly extremely suprised hilti batteries are so affordable normally when i think hilti i think reliable but expensive
Great review
Why is no one reviewing the m12 fuel screwdriver
I respect you like these low power drills thats basically what they are i have the bosh click it it has the same feature with attachments I honestly think you should have put it in there that by far is my favorite but impact drivers are my thing and like you I love all brands the bosch you just reviewed should made it to # compeat od like to see how strong 💪 it is against the dewalt and three other drivers
I have the DeWalt and Milwaukee. The lack of a low gear on the DeWalt is a negative for me. I got in a spot where I was down to one bar with the DeWalt using a 2AH battery and it couldn't remove a three inch screw, where the Milwaukee could. Yes, that is a rare situation but it still occurred. The low speed is the only thing the Milwaukee leads in though. I prefer the DeWalt overall. I got mine for $99 in a kit with the bag,charger, two 2AH batteries and the screwdriver.
I have the Milwaukee fuel one but I do like the Dewalt , I'm undecided if I need the Dewalt one so my question is if you could only have one of them which one would you choose ?
@@gustavomacall4997 DeWalt, you already have the Milwaukee. So I would just stay with that.
@@Dale37 I'm glad you said Dewalt , I was looking for any little excuse to go get it , as a Milwaukee and Dewalt tool addict I've realized that wanting is stronger then needing lol so as soon as the raider game is over I'm heading to lowes to pick it up 🙂
@@gustavomacall4997 lol I feel the same way.
Those 12v drivers are my absolute favorites as well. I always have one near me or in my tool bag. I prefer the two speed versions; speed 2 for drilling pilot holes, speed one for driving screws. I have both the milwaukee fuel and new bosch GSR12V-300HX; I love how compact and light the bosch is, but don't like the light; it has a yellow tinge. I love the auto load collet of the milwaukee and how smooth it runs, but I'm not crazy about the heavier weight and size. Milwaukee needs to revamp this one with a smaller body.
You gotta get those two to compare. :-)
Wera makes collets identical to that hilti one (they call them "rapidapters"); they're amazing.
Keep it up. I love your comparison videos.
Try bosch gsr 12v-35fc
Have both hilti and dewalt .. hard decision !!
1 year later, can you pick one?
What about Skil 12 volt??
He says "Time" but no actual time is displayed?
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They had the 12 V mikita at home depot before drill and impact for a $100 1 year If I didn't have Milwaukee I wanna thought about it
It would be interesting to see how the Milwaukee M12 screwdriver would fare, as well as the M12 2505-20 4-in-1Installation Tool.
In fact, I could lend you my 2505-20 for testing if you do another one. How do I contact you off of here?
I have the the m12 fuel 2402 and love it.
Where is the Milwaukee screw driver?
Mine is making a new grinding noise from inside. Going back to Dewalt
man disappointed to not see makita drive the screws.
Wish the Bosch was in here. Not a fan of 12v tools with batteries that stick out.
Slide on > Torpedo. You people make up bullshit clearance issues with slide on 12vs.
The thinner grip tends to be easier on the hands though
Why was the timer ⏲ not on screen
Drilling or screwing into wood gives you a reasonably good idea but isn't a highly accurate way of testing these tools.
Why not very accurate?
1. Wood varies in density depending on the grain (especially if you hit a knot).
2. If you put lots of screws close together the wood will be compacted, denser and harder to screw into.
3. When driving screws close to the edge of a piece of timber there will be less resistance as the wood can be pushed out of the way more easily.
4. Drilling holes close together (which wasn't featured in this video but just sayin'...) has the same effect as driving screws near the edge of the timber.
I'm not criticising the video, like I said it still gives you a reasonable idea of the performance, but if you're trying to decide between 2 tools and the performance is very close I'd ignore the torque and look at other factors to help me decide such as size, ergonomics, durability, price, 'features' etc...
Maybe you should invest in a mic pack so we can hear you better...
Packout black to the states
2 speed 12v screwdriver
It is ok man craver tools
If you put a big ah battery it defeats the point of a small lightweight.
12v screwdrivers
It seems like these would probably still be overkill for precision work or even trim work like installing wall plates. Also you didn't really compare anything but power. Like if you had to pick one for comfort or size or precision or whatever which would it be?
I dont know man I really dont see any advantage to this vs a drill which can adapt more than a hex fitting. You can also buy quick change hex adapters for a reg chuck drill
In theory, size and weight. Adding a hex adapter to a drill (which I definitely have done) makes clearance even more of an issue. I actually don't have one of these, but could see the benefit of having a more compact and light option for simpler, less demanding tasks around the house.
Smaller, more precise torque settings, weight.
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None of the screwdrivers in this video will remove a lug nut. They’re not impacts.
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