i'm genuinely impressed by your ability to seemingly learn new pieces of gear so effortlessly, and even more amazingly, teach others what you know in such a calm and concise manner. bravo.
I was just thinking the same thing.. How do you learn so in depth each piece of gear or software enough to Make it talk/sing the way you do? That would be a tutorial for the books because we’re all out here with all this different gear in our quivers..
isn't it wonderful that, in the midst of all our learning on youtube about new devices and sounds and workflows, 8 bars of a Bach prelude with lovely piano sample transcends everything, unintentionally
After your video I'm even happier to have ordered Hermod. When seeing the XY pad on Pyramid I thought "oh, what a shame that Hermod doesn't offer that but was so happy when I saw you drawing the same lines with the Modwheel on the Keystep. SUPERB THOUGHT went into this little device!
Awesome video! I'm thinking of replacing my MPC Live (used as a sequencer) with a dedicated sequencer, as the MPC Live is quite buggy. This video has helped immensely, in that decision making process. Thanks man!
Great video as usual. Two more columns of cv jacks on Hermod would enable a lot more in a package that already has a lot. Could have more polyphony without sacrificing CV. Would be nice if they sold expansion modules like Expert Sleepers FX-1 for the FH1/2.
I've got a pyramid and I'm trying to decide between just getting a MIDI to CV module or a second hand Hermod and.. this hasn't helped much making that decision, but it was a great video as always XD I still feel like the pyramid has greater power to write "songs", and that hermod is weird in that it's too powerful for its own interface: it _can_ do full tracks, but it seems _hard_ to enter a score. A lot harder than just loading a midi file in the pyramid. It seems great for more usual "modular" stuff like generative patches, and the MIDI FX are powerful. It's like it packs a lot of punch, but nothing I can't get close enough with a couple other modules I already have (a turing machine plus a quantizer, for example). Not saying that it doesn't bring a _lot_ more to the table, just that I'm not sure I can justify the HP for the intended use. Of course, on the other hand, I haven't found a midi-to-cv module half as interesting (except maybe the Endorphin.es shuttle control, but that only has USB midi)
I know it is a very old piece of gear but your format and presentation of these videos is excellent and if you ever made one covering the Yamaha RS7000, that would be great!
Thanks - no that’s pretty much it - I think going any more in depth would be basically replicating the manual - which is actually quite well written. I know it’s a pain but I recommend literally going step by step alongside the manual to fully understand this machine.
Thanks for your overview and sharp focus on the display of the hermod. You mentioned that the amount of steps/resolution during a live recording is even higher than 64. could you explain this? Can you record long unquintized sequences exceeding 64 steps?
Is there anything like this, but more oriented at working in conjunction with synts and DAWs? I have a couple of analog synths and midi devices, and was looking at something like to volca FM or similar, that is not analog, does not need to have a sequencer but has presets and it is small. Not sure it even exist; beside the Volca FM
Maybe something like the old Yamaha QY70 or QY100? They're roughly the same size of the Volcas, all digital, with a very capable - albeit fiddly - sequencer built in and presets for both patterns and songs. They can be found on the used market for quite cheap too. Not sure if that's the kind of thing you're looking for though.
Can you clarify connecting hardware synths to this? This is likely a daft question, but I get confused when you say there's 2 MIDI outs and therefore can control up to 32 hardware synths. I'm seriously considering picking this up (it's between this and a Seq). Right now I have a bunch of synths (TR-8S, MS-20, Volca's, Minilogue, etc.) whom I have going through a T8 thru box into a BeatStep Pro which in turn I have going through my 18i20 interface. I also have audio out for all these to record both audio and midi in Logic. Why I'm looking to upgrade is I'd like to sequence out more than two synths at a time (three if you count me using the BSP drum sequencer) - thus that's why I'm looking to upgrade my sequencer. I want each synth to be on it's own sequencer. I'm assuming Pyramid was basically build to do this - is that the case, and would you suggest this over the Seq, or are we getting into cost / workflow preference now? Thanks a million for all your videos - you've helped me level up my knowledge several times, cheers!
Since u asked the Yamaha rs7000 has extensive midi Fx. It does have a harmonizer, midi delay, offset for that delay, offset on the notes, gate, and amazing beat stretch. is it obvious I regret selling it?
I do regret too and now after almost 10 years I do seriously think about getting one just because of its sequencer. I have tried whole lot and really in hardware realm RS7K was never beaten by any and that’s fucking sad in 2019 everything is so boiled down and overpriced! Yamaha is lazy bunch of idiots for ditching that market
Yes indeed! I've changed my mind about finding a replacement for my ageing RS. Instead I've learned how to replace the dials and switches and service it. I've also seen ceefax acid and others use it in a way I dont seem to be able to, perhaps there's a mod or software update.
Thanks for all the info and jams. Just diving into the modular world. Started out with a mother32 and now have a clouds and peaks clone. I want to get into general sequencing. I was pretty set on that key step pro but after seeing this the Hermosillo seems like the right choice. I already have an older key step so the midi host on this thing seems like a good Idea. Plus the sequencer on this thing seems way more intuitive and useful than the key step pro
Hmm, and I thought I'd found the clear winner in my short list for "next sequencer purchase" in the Deluge, but the screen on the Pyramid offers a level of usability that may give it the advantage. But I'm a big fan of the two-dimensional, context-switching grid layout of the Deluge. Tough call. Between the Pyramid and the Deluge, which would you say has more intuitive controls?
I would say neither are intuitive immediately (except the obvious Deluge piano roll grid). Both require that you invest some time in becoming proficient with them (luckly you have my videos on both so it shouldn't take more than 30 minutes ;). Once you're over that hill, you should decide whether the sound engine and quick access to all the rows is important to you (=Deluge) or whether you find the additional sequencing features in Pyramid more compelling. It's a very hard choice for sure...
I had the same dilemma between the Deluge and Pyramid. I chose the Pyramid and am very glad I did. As he mentioned, it takes a little time to learn but it really is intuitive, especially after the recent update. I also like being able to see more information on the screen, as opposed to the small screen of the Deluge. Just my two cents.
Hi. This is an amazing channel, really love it! Question: On the Pyramid, can you lock the pads to a particular key/scale when choosing midi notes to sequence so anything you choose, will always be in key? I'd assume so for such a powerful sequencer but I need to be sure. Cheers
Amazing devices..wow..so torn now...was going to stick with external hardware standalones but after hearing and seeing your rack setup am seriously thinking of starting to save for my own system. The Pyramid is also incredible...I'm thinking that maybe I was too hasty in purchasing the Beatstep Pro.
@@loopop Ha! Well, very well-organized and lucid videos, in any case. You've made it clear that the Pyramid is not for the impatient, yet rewards patience.
@@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 Oh believe me, there will be always some cat hair in your equipment. I never let my cat around my gear but last time when I was servicing my Juno 106 there was some cat hair in the synth.
Hi, Is it possible to send clock and reset, maybe also run signals over gate or cv outs to other sequencers in your modular with the Hermod? Thanks for the video. Regards
Does the pyramid have the connections and the ability to do everything that the Hermod can do with modular gear? The Hermod has the 8 cv and Gate connections. Can the pyramid make this many ?
Sorry. I don't really understand how the midi out works. Can you make a track that sends midi out to a midi synth and then use that same track's cv/gate out for something else?
Would love to see a compare and contrast between the pyramid and Polyend SEQ. If I play more traditional music, with less alignment to grid, say on piano keys, would the Pyramid be a better fit?
Thanks - really appreciate the comment. Yes, I’d like to get to that too... I have quite a pipeline for the coming month but it’s on the to do list for sure!
Loopop, you think you could do a video exploring the MIDI FX fully? There's very little about them online, and they seem like one of the biggest selling points to me. Great video nonetheless.
tziirkq thank you. In this video I already show how to fill 3 of the 5 effect slots ... so for now it’s not likely I’ll make another - maybe in the future if they add new ones. But feel free to ask me any question
They're mostly about using the FX for generative music. I do a lot of that, and I'm curious about how much of my Ableton Live technique an translate. For example, in Live when making acid bass, I make some notes be randomly longer than others for slides. Is this possible? Mostly, I'd just like to see someone have fun with the MIDI FX.
Hi I saw your review of Hermod and was impressed. however I noticed none of the inputs were addressed. Eg. Analog ABCD inputs as they are called by a Squarp instruments youtube expert. I also noticed Molten modular avoided these inputs......do they actually work or are they duds? How do you use them?
This video is so old I don't remember what's in it or not, but if they were duds I'd certainly mention that. There's a limit of what I can test and cover within the scope of a review of two sequencers, so I have to prioritize
In your opinion would hermod or eloquencer be better for a live performance Eurorack sequencer? I like sequencers that are fast and intuitive to use with minimal menu diving.
Any chance you've seen the kickstarter (I know, I know) NDLR project? www.kickstarter.com/projects/thendlr/the-ndlr-a-multi-part-polyphonic-arpeggiator Touted as a Super Arpeggiator & Polyphonic Fun (re: sequencing chords), so not quite the same, but would love to hear your thoughts when it's out.
This video lead me to another demension . Moving tempo is a big issue . In near future classical musician or composer will use this kind of gear or computer .OMG!
So many menus and such a tiny non colour screen with so few controls. I want a sequencer that will be more inspiring and creative than a DAW but without too much complexity and menu diving. It seems so hard to find one that balances features and simplicity. Most seem either really limited 1 x 8 step sequencers with no control of note length or crazy deep sequencers that require infinite menu diving and complex knowledge of using them. I really like to be able to see what's going on in my sequence and edit it easily. I can't find anything that I appeals to me really.
I agree, I tried the Koma, but it is so very limited in scales and the lack of precision on the notes not being shown. Insane blinking lights over 8 or 16 steps and or crazy menu diving is also a big turn-off for me. I was really looking forward to the Five12 Vector, but it seems a bit divey as well. Polyend seemed very nice, but kind of limited polymetrically and w/o various tempos on each track + menu diving too. My only solution seems to be multiple small unique ones ran by the same clock.
very nice overview about the power of these sequencers, but your video lacked a bit in the main question: does all this power come at the expense of ease of use? is it easy to put in a sequence and alter it? how do you like to work with it? are you actually using the Pyramid for sequencing your gear or are you using other (easier) sequencers?
Oh I thought the video WAS the answer to the question - that’s why I showed the workflow for each of the advanced features. The answer to your question is, for me, yes, I absolutely will use it going forward, not for everything but certainly when a built in sequencer can’t handle what I need - but I showed the workflow because for you or someone else it might not be worth the trouble
yeah, your video is excellent in showing how you can do all this stuff, but for an outsider the learning curve looks really steep and long, but I'm sure when you dig in, you'll get awesome results :D
I'm happy that they published the new (beta) firmware 3.0 for the Pyramid recently, I hope they're doing good, so we could hope for an amazing mk3 with velocity pads, Oled screens and more hands on - that's what bugs me the most, if it's hands-on enough? as an Beatstep pro or the Elektrons, on the other hand is the Pyramid much more powerfull..
No, tried to configure it by myself and googled for instructions. Found other posts asking for help but not clear instructions. Will ask them directly. Cheers
they're both well thought out for their purpose. Pyramid is easier and more powerful for sure, but if you need the CV outputs for modular, you need the outputs because Pyramid only has 3. Or you could get Pyramid and a midi to cv module. or both...
@@loopop I am thinking the Pyramid with Expert Sleepers' FH-2 module plus a FHX-8CV expander would give you the best of both worlds: handle all your Eurorack AND external hardware at the same time.
no worries, it doesn't bite. just go step by step through the manual - it's actually quite good if you follow it. the two mental obstacles for me were mono vs poly mode and what a sequence is. learn mono poly and ignore sequences for starters - things should fall in place from there. hopefully.
Thanks! I have been contemplating starting a self-contained Eurorack system and this video has just made me seriously consider Hermod! Previously I wanted a self-playing patch with Pamela's New Workout as the brain, but I think you can get the same result with this one and much more.
Please, can you confirm this ? on one track I can have 32 sequences/patterns, not more? I ask because I know that changing project just cut the sequencer for a moment ; 32sequences per instrument per project may not be enough for me :/ Very very nice review, in fact probably one of the best pyramid review for now on youtube
TheOrangepeak thanks very much. If the patterns concept is confusing just ignore it - you have 64 different tracks, and you can store their on off states in 32 different sequences
ah thanks since my comments I understood their concept of "sequences" (the video was not finished when I posted) ; but still I don't get this : is the number of pattern (=loop) per track/per project is limited ?
Like I said the concept of pattern is confusing and best ignored for beginners.... you’ve got plenty of tracks (64) with unlimited length. Pattern just lets you store different versions of the same track
ok I'm not getting it, why did they name things with those words wich means other things XD and it's weird because I'm french, like the creators of this box, and I don't get their logic ; anyway I will buy one for sure so I'll see when I get one :) thank you really for your review and for taking the time to reply :)
Hermod or Pyramid for controlling an Analog Four and Digitone (+ one modular eurorack synth)..? A used Pyramid i can get for a little more than a new Hermod. Clock used will be from the eurorack btw.. Opinions?
Big Thanx to You! Would You rather consider making a video on How to control Hardware such as the Octatrack or Analog Rytm or anything else for that matter , with Pyramid.
They are very different - it's like they're on two sides of the spectrum: one on the side of ease of use (Polyend Seq), and the other on power (Pyramid)
I'm more encline on Polyend seq at this time . I'd like to have a master clock from One Seq to rule 'em all ( ie octatrack , AR MK2) and to control future purchase such as Mother 32 and DFAM.What seems more appropriate ? Thanx
Both have master clock, so that shouldn't be a deciding factor. It's about ease of use vs power (and price). Both will rule your synths, just differently...
Love your vids but I'm wondering why in this video and the dedicated Pyramid video you don't demonstrate how the touchpad actually works? Is it so underwhelming that you don't want to show an example of it? Thanks
Thanks! It's been so long since I made these that I honestly don't remember for sure, but I'm willing to bet I showed how to use the touch pad to record cc's in at least the dedicated video, if not both. I didn't find the touchpad underwhelming technically at all; whether it fits a given workflow is a different issue.
how would you compare Pyramid to Elektron boxes in terms of ease of use? I used to own Octatrack, which has powerful MIDI sequencer, but ended up selling it, because everytime I didn't use it for a month or so, I would have to re-learn all those button combinations. Got tired of that interface, eventually. Would you say that Pyramid is somewhat more user friendly? Thanks!
(:-o) you are simply next levet in all aspects of the ins & outs of synthezisers - thank you so very very much- you litterally made my machinepark - unimagible - higher value - for me - and for every real syntherziers freaks out there , in the open ! iou & W.O.U. !
Better and faster workflow dedicated for easy performance and jamming. I agree with you a daw or iPad can do practically everything - these units are a luxury - a physical embodiment of a subset of features optimized for a specific workflow. If you’re fine with a daw and iPad you just saved yourself a lot of money ;)
i'm genuinely impressed by your ability to seemingly learn new pieces of gear so effortlessly, and even more amazingly, teach others what you know in such a calm and concise manner. bravo.
I was just thinking the same thing.. How do you learn so in depth each piece of gear or software enough to Make it talk/sing the way you do?
That would be a tutorial for the books because we’re all out here with all this different gear in our quivers..
Whoa, that Eurorack case! I like!
isn't it wonderful that, in the midst of all our learning on youtube about new devices and sounds and workflows, 8 bars of a Bach prelude with lovely piano sample transcends everything, unintentionally
If you think it's unintentional check out my review of GR-1: Bach Returns
After your video I'm even happier to have ordered Hermod. When seeing the XY pad on Pyramid I thought "oh, what a shame that Hermod doesn't offer that but was so happy when I saw you drawing the same lines with the Modwheel on the Keystep. SUPERB THOUGHT went into this little device!
Awesome video! I'm thinking of replacing my MPC Live (used as a sequencer) with a dedicated sequencer, as the MPC Live is quite buggy.
This video has helped immensely, in that decision making process.
Thanks man!
Caid Johnson beware... The pyramid is a lot *rigid* when it comes to move, cut, paste patterns and notes
( I do not know the mpc, though )
I have both and it is much easier to cut and paste on the pyramid, as well as duplicate tracks etc.
I want to thank you for your material, apart from it being highly reliable product info, it also has strong educational value for me.
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Super vid. I just got one of these, and being new to eurorack, this can be a little daunting. Very much appreciated the teaching.
Excellent video as always! 🙌👌👍
Great video. More than answered all my questions, and made it look learnable.
Great video as usual. Two more columns of cv jacks on Hermod would enable a lot more in a package that already has a lot. Could have more polyphony without sacrificing CV. Would be nice if they sold expansion modules like Expert Sleepers FX-1 for the FH1/2.
Wow ... that is amazing, thank you so much !
I've got a pyramid and I'm trying to decide between just getting a MIDI to CV module or a second hand Hermod and.. this hasn't helped much making that decision, but it was a great video as always XD
I still feel like the pyramid has greater power to write "songs", and that hermod is weird in that it's too powerful for its own interface: it _can_ do full tracks, but it seems _hard_ to enter a score. A lot harder than just loading a midi file in the pyramid. It seems great for more usual "modular" stuff like generative patches, and the MIDI FX are powerful. It's like it packs a lot of punch, but nothing I can't get close enough with a couple other modules I already have (a turing machine plus a quantizer, for example). Not saying that it doesn't bring a _lot_ more to the table, just that I'm not sure I can justify the HP for the intended use.
Of course, on the other hand, I haven't found a midi-to-cv module half as interesting (except maybe the Endorphin.es shuttle control, but that only has USB midi)
I know it is a very old piece of gear but your format and presentation of these videos is excellent and if you ever made one covering the Yamaha RS7000, that would be great!
Thanks! How do I get one...?
Yep! I still haven't spotted anything to top it. I think there's a mod or update too that makes it even more flexible. See ceefax acid.
Very cool!.... I just saw the Hermod in Anne Annie’s breathtaking vid of Clare de Lune and now here’s a Loopop vid on it to educate me! Sweet!! 😃👍
Jason Johns thanks and LOVE that channel
The Yamaha RM1X can do similar things. I find this sequencer very nice as well ...expecially in this analogic time
The Yamaha RM1x and RS7000 are ignored because people think they're toys--they're the best hardware sequencers I've ever used.
They are nice, but Not in production anymore and use 3,5" floppy Disks as storage. Too old.
Excellent pyramid introduction! Do you have another more complete one ?
Thanks - no that’s pretty much it - I think going any more in depth would be basically replicating the manual - which is actually quite well written. I know it’s a pain but I recommend literally going step by step alongside the manual to fully understand this machine.
Thanks for your overview and sharp focus on the display of the hermod. You mentioned that the amount of steps/resolution during a live recording is even higher than 64. could you explain this? Can you record long unquintized sequences exceeding 64 steps?
The live recording resolution goes down to 24ppqn - so if you slowed down the tempo a lot, you could cram a nice long sequence in there.
Is there anything like this, but more oriented at working in conjunction with synts and DAWs?
I have a couple of analog synths and midi devices, and was looking at something like to volca FM or similar, that is not analog, does not need to have a sequencer but has presets and it is small. Not sure it even exist; beside the Volca FM
Maybe something like the old Yamaha QY70 or QY100? They're roughly the same size of the Volcas, all digital, with a very capable - albeit fiddly - sequencer built in and presets for both patterns and songs. They can be found on the used market for quite cheap too.
Not sure if that's the kind of thing you're looking for though.
8:50 Finally someone has addressed this long running deficit on sequencers. This alone makes gets me tipping on the fence.
I don't quite get it, what's the deficit you mean? 🤔 I wish to learn too
@@teodordumi He meant the Missing switchable syncable time signature per track. Like in track 1 4/4 and track 2 3/4.
Can you clarify connecting hardware synths to this? This is likely a daft question, but I get confused when you say there's 2 MIDI outs and therefore can control up to 32 hardware synths.
I'm seriously considering picking this up (it's between this and a Seq). Right now I have a bunch of synths (TR-8S, MS-20, Volca's, Minilogue, etc.) whom I have going through a T8 thru box into a BeatStep Pro which in turn I have going through my 18i20 interface. I also have audio out for all these to record both audio and midi in Logic.
Why I'm looking to upgrade is I'd like to sequence out more than two synths at a time (three if you count me using the BSP drum sequencer) - thus that's why I'm looking to upgrade my sequencer. I want each synth to be on it's own sequencer. I'm assuming Pyramid was basically build to do this - is that the case, and would you suggest this over the Seq, or are we getting into cost / workflow preference now?
Thanks a million for all your videos - you've helped me level up my knowledge several times, cheers!
Thanks for the kind words. Yeah, indeed it boils down the features/workflow preference - everything I know is in these videos
@@loopop rock on, thx a mill again, peace!
Since u asked the Yamaha rs7000 has extensive midi Fx. It does have a harmonizer, midi delay, offset for that delay, offset on the notes, gate, and amazing beat stretch. is it obvious I regret selling it?
I do regret too and now after almost 10 years I do seriously think about getting one just because of its sequencer. I have tried whole lot and really in hardware realm RS7K was never beaten by any and that’s fucking sad in 2019 everything is so boiled down and overpriced! Yamaha is lazy bunch of idiots for ditching that market
Yes indeed! I've changed my mind about finding a replacement for my ageing RS. Instead I've learned how to replace the dials and switches and service it. I've also seen ceefax acid and others use it in a way I dont seem to be able to, perhaps there's a mod or software update.
How do these compare to the Eurorack sequencer Winter Modular Eloquencer? Met a guy last nite with full Eurorack setup with TWO of the Eloquencers!
Renaissance Man I’ve not reviewed it (yet..?) maybe someone else can chime in
Thanks for all the info and jams.
Just diving into the modular world.
Started out with a mother32 and now have a clouds and peaks clone.
I want to get into general sequencing. I was pretty set on that key step pro but after seeing this the Hermosillo seems like the right choice. I already have an older key step so the midi host on this thing seems like a good Idea.
Plus the sequencer on this thing seems way more intuitive and useful than the key step pro
There is this cat fur hair on the pyramid main knob that will definitely make me go to the modular rack section !
Excellent review! Glad to see the comment re: 3.0 addressing the apparent bugs reported by Jade (Dawless Jammin')
Hmm, and I thought I'd found the clear winner in my short list for "next sequencer purchase" in the Deluge, but the screen on the Pyramid offers a level of usability that may give it the advantage. But I'm a big fan of the two-dimensional, context-switching grid layout of the Deluge. Tough call. Between the Pyramid and the Deluge, which would you say has more intuitive controls?
I would say neither are intuitive immediately (except the obvious Deluge piano roll grid). Both require that you invest some time in becoming proficient with them (luckly you have my videos on both so it shouldn't take more than 30 minutes ;). Once you're over that hill, you should decide whether the sound engine and quick access to all the rows is important to you (=Deluge) or whether you find the additional sequencing features in Pyramid more compelling. It's a very hard choice for sure...
I had the same dilemma between the Deluge and Pyramid. I chose the Pyramid and am very glad I did. As he mentioned, it takes a little time to learn but it really is intuitive, especially after the recent update. I also like being able to see more information on the screen, as opposed to the small screen of the Deluge. Just my two cents.
Just such a useful video for me right now :)
Sweeeeeet ;)
Hi. This is an amazing channel, really love it! Question: On the Pyramid, can you lock the pads to a particular key/scale when choosing midi notes to sequence so anything you choose, will always be in key? I'd assume so for such a powerful sequencer but I need to be sure. Cheers
Thanks! Please check my full video about Pyramid
@@loopop I must have missed it. I will check it, thanks!
Great video
sequencing like you do at 17:20 gives me all the same note, is there something i messed up in settings?
Late here but press and hold a pad, then choose notes on keyboard while holding
Amazing devices..wow..so torn now...was going to stick with external hardware standalones but after hearing and seeing your rack setup am seriously thinking of starting to save for my own system. The Pyramid is also incredible...I'm thinking that maybe I was too hasty in purchasing the Beatstep Pro.
was thinking exactly the same ; around here it's 500/550 euros on second hand market
don't feel bad, can never have too many sequencers
they complement eachother perfectly
4:12 lol at the cat hair, only cat owners will known the truggle lol
I had to scroll down to find the first person to mention it. I keep my cats away from my equipment for this reason.
Ok since you asked .... I have no cats. This is probably a hair from a brush I used to clean dust....
@@loopop Ha! Well, very well-organized and lucid videos, in any case. You've made it clear that the Pyramid is not for the impatient, yet rewards patience.
@@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 Oh believe me, there will be always some cat hair in your equipment. I never let my cat around my gear but last time when I was servicing my Juno 106 there was some cat hair in the synth.
Hi,
Is it possible to send clock and reset, maybe also run signals over gate or cv outs to other sequencers in your modular with the Hermod?
Thanks for the video.
Regards
QY700 lets you do a lot with chords and reharmonisation -not sure whether it works the same as on here though.
RS7000 too :) yamaha sequencers rock!
If you don't mind the work flow
Does the pyramid have the connections and the ability to do everything that the Hermod can do with modular gear? The Hermod has the 8 cv and Gate connections. Can the pyramid make this many ?
On the Hermod, can you use the midi effect to play notes and use the cv/gate outs on the same track to modulate modular gear?
Pee Dee not sure I understand the question. Once you send notes your using cv and gate per mono voice
Sorry. I don't really understand how the midi out works. Can you make a track that sends midi out to a midi synth and then use that same track's cv/gate out for something else?
Pee Dee no but you have plenty of tracks especially if you use more than one row per track
Thanks!
Would love to see a compare and contrast between the pyramid and Polyend SEQ. If I play more traditional music, with less alignment to grid, say on piano keys, would the Pyramid be a better fit?
yes for you Pyramid would give more flexibility
Just wanted to say, that I really like your reviews and tips/tricks - thank you. I would love to see a loopop-video on the Morphagene. :-)
Thanks - really appreciate the comment. Yes, I’d like to get to that too... I have quite a pipeline for the coming month but it’s on the to do list for sure!
Can you clarify what the modmatrix does on this thing? Also what are the “ABCD” inputs (or outputs) for?
Have you tried the Killpatrick Audio Carbon Sequencer?
What's the piece you're playing back via midi file at the 3:50ish mark in this video? Lovely.
Bach Prelude
Reminds of of a modern rm1x a bit except with out onboard sounds and with a smaller nicer build.
Loopop, you think you could do a video exploring the MIDI FX fully? There's very little about them online, and they seem like one of the biggest selling points to me. Great video nonetheless.
tziirkq thank you. In this video I already show how to fill 3 of the 5 effect slots ... so for now it’s not likely I’ll make another - maybe in the future if they add new ones. But feel free to ask me any question
They're mostly about using the FX for generative music. I do a lot of that, and I'm curious about how much of my Ableton Live technique an translate.
For example, in Live when making acid bass, I make some notes be randomly longer than others for slides. Is this possible? Mostly, I'd just like to see someone have fun with the MIDI FX.
tziirkq ok noted... and yeah it’s very much like Ableton - what you’re saying should work
nice overview. that last sound, what was the source oscillator?
Samuel Costa not sure what the last sound is but I use plaits elements and Disting for the kick
loopop right! on disting ur triggering a sample?
Yes the kick is a simple sample
So I have a question: if your could have only one of the two keeping modular as an option which one do you choose? Thanks
Can you input midi Hermod like you can the Pyramid? Love the channel. Honestly, loopop is too good.
Thanks! Just saw this comment now for some reason. Anyway, you can input notes with a MIDI controller but not import MIDI files
Hi I saw your review of Hermod and was impressed. however I noticed none of the inputs were addressed. Eg. Analog ABCD inputs as they are called by a Squarp instruments youtube expert. I also noticed Molten modular avoided these inputs......do they actually work or are they duds? How do you use them?
This video is so old I don't remember what's in it or not, but if they were duds I'd certainly mention that. There's a limit of what I can test and cover within the scope of a review of two sequencers, so I have to prioritize
In your opinion would hermod or eloquencer be better for a live performance Eurorack sequencer?
I like sequencers that are fast and intuitive to use with minimal menu diving.
fuenstock I’ve never used eloquencer - perhaps someone else can comment
Has pyraOS 3 been released?! Didn’t know that!!!
It’s in public beta
Any chance you've seen the kickstarter (I know, I know) NDLR project? www.kickstarter.com/projects/thendlr/the-ndlr-a-multi-part-polyphonic-arpeggiator Touted as a Super Arpeggiator & Polyphonic Fun (re: sequencing chords), so not quite the same, but would love to hear your thoughts when it's out.
This video lead me to another demension . Moving tempo is a big issue . In near future classical musician or composer will use this kind of gear or computer .OMG!
Thanks for this. Does it send sysex midi? Would be great for controlling vintage rack gear if so.
geecen welcome. Not that I know...
But email them, if it doesn’t I wouldn’t be surprised if they added it ....
Where do I purchase this? I couldn't find it at my place
You can buy straight from them (square.net) and there are dealers listed there too
So many menus and such a tiny non colour screen with so few controls. I want a sequencer that will be more inspiring and creative than a DAW but without too much complexity and menu diving. It seems so hard to find one that balances features and simplicity. Most seem either really limited 1 x 8 step sequencers with no control of note length or crazy deep sequencers that require infinite menu diving and complex knowledge of using them. I really like to be able to see what's going on in my sequence and edit it easily. I can't find anything that I appeals to me really.
did you end up deciding on something? interested if so
What did you decide on?
Deluge?
deluge looks cool but i use ableton
I agree, I tried the Koma, but it is so very limited in scales and the lack of precision on the notes not being shown. Insane blinking lights over 8 or 16 steps and or crazy menu diving is also a big turn-off for me. I was really looking forward to the Five12 Vector, but it seems a bit divey as well. Polyend seemed very nice, but kind of limited polymetrically and w/o various tempos on each track + menu diving too. My only solution seems to be multiple small unique ones ran by the same clock.
can you use hardware sequencers with vst instruments?
Yes of course
Nice, can you make a vid about your setup, Thanks.
What is a reasonably priced hardware sequencer to get your feet wet with?
very nice overview about the power of these sequencers, but your video lacked a bit in the main question: does all this power come at the expense of ease of use? is it easy to put in a sequence and alter it? how do you like to work with it? are you actually using the Pyramid for sequencing your gear or are you using other (easier) sequencers?
Oh I thought the video WAS the answer to the question - that’s why I showed the workflow for each of the advanced features. The answer to your question is, for me, yes, I absolutely will use it going forward, not for everything but certainly when a built in sequencer can’t handle what I need - but I showed the workflow because for you or someone else it might not be worth the trouble
yeah, your video is excellent in showing how you can do all this stuff, but for an outsider the learning curve looks really steep and long, but I'm sure when you dig in, you'll get awesome results :D
Bibi oh it was steep for me too. Took a good read of the manual until it “clicked”
I'm happy that they published the new (beta) firmware 3.0 for the Pyramid recently, I hope they're doing good, so we could hope for an amazing mk3 with velocity pads, Oled screens and more hands on - that's what bugs me the most, if it's hands-on enough? as an Beatstep pro or the Elektrons, on the other hand is the Pyramid much more powerfull..
Can’t get the Hermod to receive the MIDI from a keyboard connected to the usb host port. Tried with a Akai mpk and a Op-1... any tips? Thanks a lot!
Worked for me - did you try emailing their support? I’m sure I must not be thinking of something ...
No, tried to configure it by myself and googled for instructions. Found other posts asking for help but not clear instructions. Will ask them directly. Cheers
11:16, MV-8000 & MV-8800.....
Would You recommend more pamela's new workout or Hermod for pairing it with DFAM?
I’m not very familiar with Pam’s but I don’t think it has a sequencer? Seems like Hermod is much more powerful but perhaps someone else can chime in
I just noticed the Pyramid case / form looks to have been used by IK multimedia for new synth.
soundfx68 yeah they seem similar but pyramid is bigger and has actual buttons, a screen and more than 16 steps in a sequence ;)
Very nice demo and tutorial, thank you. How does the Pyramid compare to the Cirklon?
I’ve not tried it
Muy bien formidable secuenciador hardware bien animo con todas las cosas y vayamos con alegrias
So which one is the easiest to use, most well thought out would you say?
they're both well thought out for their purpose. Pyramid is easier and more powerful for sure, but if you need the CV outputs for modular, you need the outputs because Pyramid only has 3. Or you could get Pyramid and a midi to cv module. or both...
@@loopop I am thinking the Pyramid with Expert Sleepers' FH-2 module plus a FHX-8CV expander would give you the best of both worlds: handle all your Eurorack AND external hardware at the same time.
Good call Kkidzz@@Kkidzz
didn’t really get a sense of ease of use from your video. i own pyramid 2 and i’m terrified of it, yet to turn it on.
no worries, it doesn't bite. just go step by step through the manual - it's actually quite good if you follow it. the two mental obstacles for me were mono vs poly mode and what a sequence is. learn mono poly and ignore sequences for starters - things should fall in place from there. hopefully.
Can you use Hermod's outputs as synced LFOs?
Gustavo Elizondo yes you can
Thanks! I have been contemplating starting a self-contained Eurorack system and this video has just made me seriously consider Hermod! Previously I wanted a self-playing patch with Pamela's New Workout as the brain, but I think you can get the same result with this one and much more.
Gustavo Elizondo yes - it’s way more than just a sequencer
Holy crap the price for Hermod is generous
Please, can you confirm this ? on one track I can have 32 sequences/patterns, not more? I ask because I know that changing project just cut the sequencer for a moment ; 32sequences per instrument per project may not be enough for me :/
Very very nice review, in fact probably one of the best pyramid review for now on youtube
TheOrangepeak thanks very much. If the patterns concept is confusing just ignore it - you have 64 different tracks, and you can store their on off states in 32 different sequences
ah thanks since my comments I understood their concept of "sequences" (the video was not finished when I posted) ; but still I don't get this : is the number of pattern (=loop) per track/per project is limited ?
Like I said the concept of pattern is confusing and best ignored for beginners.... you’ve got plenty of tracks (64) with unlimited length. Pattern just lets you store different versions of the same track
ok I'm not getting it, why did they name things with those words wich means other things XD and it's weird because I'm french, like the creators of this box, and I don't get their logic ; anyway I will buy one for sure so I'll see when I get one :) thank you really for your review and for taking the time to reply :)
TheOrangepeak my pleasure - pattern and track makes sense when you think of it but sequence I still don’t understand ;)
Hermod or Pyramid for controlling an Analog Four and Digitone (+ one modular eurorack synth)..? A used Pyramid i can get for a little more than a new Hermod. Clock used will be from the eurorack btw.. Opinions?
Veramente interessante ma nei negozi non si trova, si acquista solo sul sito del produttore.
Big Thanx to You! Would You rather consider making a video on How to control Hardware such as the Octatrack or Analog Rytm or anything else for that matter , with Pyramid.
And Do you think it is more appropriate with Pyramid or Polyend?
Hi and thanks! Doesn't this video do that? What else would you like to see?
They are very different - it's like they're on two sides of the spectrum: one on the side of ease of use (Polyend Seq), and the other on power (Pyramid)
I'm more encline on Polyend seq at this time . I'd like to have a master clock from One Seq to rule 'em all ( ie octatrack , AR MK2) and to control future purchase such as Mother 32 and DFAM.What seems more appropriate ? Thanx
Both have master clock, so that shouldn't be a deciding factor. It's about ease of use vs power (and price). Both will rule your synths, just differently...
Love your vids but I'm wondering why in this video and the dedicated Pyramid video you don't demonstrate how the touchpad actually works? Is it so underwhelming that you don't want to show an example of it? Thanks
Thanks! It's been so long since I made these that I honestly don't remember for sure, but I'm willing to bet I showed how to use the touch pad to record cc's in at least the dedicated video, if not both. I didn't find the touchpad underwhelming technically at all; whether it fits a given workflow is a different issue.
I am ordering pyramid now.
Good boy
how would you compare Pyramid to Elektron boxes in terms of ease of use? I used to own Octatrack, which has powerful MIDI sequencer, but ended up selling it, because everytime I didn't use it for a month or so, I would have to re-learn all those button combinations. Got tired of that interface, eventually. Would you say that Pyramid is somewhat more user friendly? Thanks!
I think pyramid is slightly more user friendly but both have a learning curve and will require a bit of relearning if you left them for a while.
@@loopop Thanks for the quick reply!
planning on keeping both?
Hodari Reuben Clarke yes, but I’m really not an example for normal behavior ...
Your videos are more memory train like)
great channel this is fella
octatrack can harmonise as such, you asked
Yep, and if you go to arp page you can set scale too!
(:-o) you are simply next levet in all aspects of the ins & outs of synthezisers - thank you so very very much- you litterally made my machinepark - unimagible - higher value - for me - and for every real syntherziers freaks out there , in the open ! iou & W.O.U. !
Very interesting but why these machines when we can have fantastic DAWs and synths with the Ipad Pro?
Better and faster workflow dedicated for easy performance and jamming. I agree with you a daw or iPad can do practically everything - these units are a luxury - a physical embodiment of a subset of features optimized for a specific workflow. If you’re fine with a daw and iPad you just saved yourself a lot of money ;)
Brother its ironic to listen to your video, I have to adjust my eq settings for a guy reviewing audio gear for F sake...
This is an old video and since then I’ve been cutting the lows off my voice, but what changes are you making beside that?
@@loopop Ok fair enough, I was listening on a pair of Audeze LCD X which has blown it out of proportion.