Where i live (in dorset/Hampshire) this is the opposite the driver went to the depot to get a different bus because two of the interior lights didn't work, the company was morebus, good job morebus
Hehe, I once had a Volvo B10m suffer a problem (not sure what thought it did start to smell like burning oil quite a bit as the bus progressed towards it's final stop) that started halfway it's journey with intermittent "master caution beeps", literally doing the "Ding!" and then stop, lighting up the master caution lights once or twice and then go off again. With every stop at either a busstop or traffic light we seemed to have more trouble getting moving but the engine kept sounding normal. I was surprised to see people responding to what was happening though (which is good, don't get me wrong), people in The Netherlands would be so caught up in their phone they wouldn't notice a single thing, unless the driver would start to actively request people to get off because of a possible fire-warning...seeing that much steam come out the back would be a sign for me to get off at least...along with hearing the master caution "ding" sound and just overall how bad the engine started to sound, along with it cutting out 2 times... Ugh that engine suffered tremendously...I get that as a driver you'd hate to have to tell your passengers that they will have to wait for another bus because yours is suffering technical problems but this was just insane. Thankfully I have experienced drivers immediately stopping when a particular series of buses we used to have here (MAN Lion City's) tended to "poop out" something out of their exhaust (it looked like oil, not sure what it was) only to then start producing A LOT of thick blue smoke out of the engine compartment at certain intervals only to make sure their engine wasn't on fire. My brother once had a bus that was actively having a fire alarm out of the blue and the driver immediately stopped and requested everyone to get of. My brother was near the stop he had to be and said that there was gray smoke coming out the back, so it was probably a serious, actual warning.
God takes me back i remember first Glasgows last few in passenger service they still do the driver training but wow its amazing throw back that engine sound is something ill never forget to whine of it is just so unique
5:34 And I can definitely hear the passengers panicking possibly realising the bus is gonna breakdown and I can hear the screech on the bus after it turn the corner
This comes from the tendency in a lot of bus companies to not fix issues when they are first reported, but to instead leave the vehicle in service until it finally gives up completely. There is a good chance that this vehicle had been reported time and time again when a simple repair could have brought it back into serviceable condition. Instead you finish up with this. A very short sighted policy in many ways. And one that often leaves the drivers very frustrated.
The driver really should have queried the issue when the “tractor” sound arose. We had this issue on some ALX400s and it’s fair to say they they were swiftly taken out of service and a (newer) replacement bus dispatched. Luckily we were just down the road from the depot at the time, but even so it was a high frequency route so wouldn’t have been too much of an inconvenience to passengers. Surely there’s a policy in place to stop at the next safest location after a warning buzzer sounds?
They drive round for months with the ticking noise it's just the exhaust manifold gasket not a major issue to cause them to be taken "swiftly out of service"
How the driver didn’t notice all that steam in his/her mirrors to is a cause to wonder. Even when it cut out that’s a sign and the driver didn’t proceeded.
Typical scene in Santiago's Operator Alsacia/Express, listening that tappeting were quite usual, and still those Volvos could give the Pace needed. Are strong buses these B7Rs
As a driver myself I'd of stopped as soon as I noticed the temperature gauge going up it wouldnt have go to the coolant alarm going off. We have scania Omnidekkas where I work that dont like the hot weather much so I tend to watch the gauge like a hawk in the summer.
Every bus i've been on that's overheated the drivers have pulled over straight away. One driver told me if their bus has overheated and carried on driving they risk losing their job
That engine has absolutely had it I reckon, I’d say give it a week or two and it’ll blow. That’s absolutely shocking, West of England shouldn’t send a bus like that out for service!
I 100% agree with you on your comment, and yes they shouldn't have sent this bus out in this condition or even kept driving it. I expect as long as the engine starts they think it's fine to use it. Very lazy tbh.
Given my previous experiences with WoE back in 2017-2019 it doesn't surprise me one bit they sent this hunk of junk out... and the driver ignored how obviously broken it is.
Blown Head Gasket causing the ticking noise which is exhaust air passing into the cooling system, causing the overheating. Steam coming from the rear would be normal in the event of an overheat, as the cap to fill the cooling system lets the air pressure out at a certain P.S.I . You can hear the driver not using much throttle before and after Pennyquick to try to stop it overheating again and again, but Bath depot were trying to kill these off.
The bus driver is trying to get everyone to the destination he turned off the engine to allow heat to release then turned it back on the bus lasted longer the bus sounds knackered but he made the bus last a bit longer.
I had this problem when I was going on the bus 74 and I heard the beeping sound, which has something to do with engine, the smoke wasn't going off for me tho, the driver had to take the bus out of service unlike this bus on video
I worked at first for a while that chugging is a gasket in the intercooler that's blown and as for continuing we got told stop check for issue report it "not safe don't do it"
Unfortunately some drivers have no mechanical sympathy. I've been driving 66881 and its overheated and it cut the engine 5 times after going up pennyquick before I could safely pull over but it didnt sound anything like this poor bus (which was my favourite B7), it was a hot day and pennyquick just killed it. Unfortunately these buses are now gone sadly.
Yea it's very sad when buses are in horrible state like this, if it was me driving, I would of just rang the depot to come and sort out the issue, as I wouldn't want the blame for causing a bus to catch fire or something worse. I mean I have been on the 5 many times and despite how old and tired some of these B7RLE's were I still find interesting and overall not to bad of a ride. Now we got the Ex-Mendips on here we will have to wait and see how they plan out. 69458 has a slight ticking noise like this one from the last time I rided it, not sure if it still has that ticking or not now?
@@duraab27 Oh nice! I didn't realise it was still alive and running, I was told on from Mendip Bus the engine went bang on its apparent transfer to Norwich, however, this is great news what you told me if this is true, I'll have to make a visit there. Thanks for letting me know mate! 😀
The problem is modern buses are made lighter and with smaller engines also cheaper components that are not up to the punishment they get. I live in Northampton and stagecoach are still using 06 plate dennis tridents that seem to keep plodding on no matter what. I used to like driving tridents apart from one's that had brakes that nearly put you through the windscreen if you just touched the pedal with a toe.
I live there too, and unfortunately they are finally starting to disappear one-by-one and being replaced with some E400 N230UD.The tridents have always been the best busses we've had over the years. We've just received some brand-new E400 MMC's
i have been in a bus a volov that overheated and shut down it self. then just start it up and it was like no problem for some time... back at the busdepaue it get water and then it was no more problem all day long...
Poor thing, he should’ve pulled over when the beeping started. Reminds me of a similar situation I had on one of my school buses where we overheated to the point steam was coming out the back. But he did stop and he had already contacted the depot.
If I was the bus driver I would stop immediately at the safest spot as soon as it started beeping. They obviously haven’t trained the drivers correctly here if this situation occurs.
I feel really bad for that bus, although the driver should’ve stopped, I think he was wanting the bus to just make it as he didn’t want to be stranded on side
@@cwcptravel6936 That is so common. Drivers are their own worst enemies and seemingly will ignore serious defects. I would like to see the DVSA take earlier action and prosecute drivers and companies putting customers and other road users at risk. I would also like to see engineers more accountable when knowingly allowing defective vehicles to operate a service. I found the way to get round this was to ensure that I asked the engineer to sign off as fit for service, any vehicle with a PG9 defect. Strangely enough they never did! I also had an app on my phone which listed all defects which could lead to an immediate or delayed prohibition, so I could call out any manager or engineer being economical with the truth. Unfortunately, most drivers don't seem to understand the potentially catastrophic consequences of their actions. To remove doubt, those consequences can lead to massive fines, loss of licence and in a worst case scenario, a custodial sentence. That is apart from possibly living with causing the death or serious injury of innocent victims. In later years, cost cutting on maintenance and bullying of drivers was commonplace. Although I still enjoyed the driving and meeting my customers, the job was so ruined by the poor ethos that retirement was a welcome escape. Sorry to get on my soap box, but I feel very strongly about professional driving standards.
Drivers who show this much arrogance/lack of care for their vehicle and passengers should face disciplinary procedures, shameful how they kept on driving this bus for so long after an obvious fault occured.
Totally agree .The comments from some of their customers say it all with some of them leaving because they are worried about the bus catching fire. Terrible customer service IMO. At least having a dialog with the passengers about why he's doing that. Something like saying the bus is poorly but fine to stay in service , and if it gets worse you can get on a replacement bus at least. Not withstanding the vehicle abuse aspect of it - the squealing should have been a prompt for him to stop and investigate.
Sounds as if the bus isn't really properly maintained by the Mechanics at the local FG bus depot. Either that or it's maybe just done so many miles that it's probably needing sold or scrapped.
Yea sadly 66722 has started to have a bit of a ticking sound. Last year when Lawrence Hill operated the 37 there was an even chance at getting a B7RLE and I remember 2 of them had this ticking noise, now there in driver training. But the 54 plates are going strong but soon there will no longer be any old buses in Bath.
He hasn't, ironically I seen this driver today doing the X39 from Bath to Bristol. But yeah a few First employees have seen this, however, I don't have the time to go reporting drivers, First will eventually catch on to bad drivers themselves.
He should've stopped the bus and pulled over completely and rang the guys at the depot rather than keep on going because otherwise that will cause the engine to blow up completely. I do not get it some bus drivers. They do not care about the bus thinking there's nothing wrong with it. It's never like that in First Worcestershire at all.
Poor bus, I've heard her from the outside recently, certainly not in a good way! She'll be off for scrap now, with this new lockdown & the ULEZ coming into force
Yea, I agree. Sadly the time has come and the remaining First bus classics will be gone. With Covid 19 I would think a lot of people are short pocketed so chances are these wont get a chance for preservation.
1...PSV rules and regulations, not the bus company that state the driver is responsible for the safety of the passengers, and the condition of the vehicle, while in service, at all times, and to report any defects to the Allocation office, who then inform the Engineer/supervisor. 2...Then issues a "VOR" notice on the vehicle, (vehicle off road=VOR) you should park safely at the nearest bus stop and secure the vehicle, and ask the passengers to wait for the next bus and continue on with their journey, and 3...send out a replacement vehicle, along with a fitter and van with tools and fluids etc to either repair VOR bus, or arrange for vehicle recovery of the VOR bus, the bus company is responsible for 100% vehicle maintenance at all times, it is not a managers job to say take it out what ever the cost, that is why there are no "Cowboys" in the Passenger service industry, as you will be held fully responsible in the eyes of the Law, and the courts, and would be held fully responsible for any injuries to the passengers if the vehicle should burst into flames, due to negligence and or, any passenger got injured in any way due to that negligence. ? think it is £10000 fine and up to 5 years in prison too. As for this driver, he/she should be on a warning for negligence, (this video is evidence in a court of Law too.) and will be held responsible for any damages done to the vehicle whilst he/she was in charge of it, as he/she signed for it on his Rota Duty, so he/she is fully responsible for the vehicle, and as soon as any of the dashboard warning lights or buzzers sound alarm goes off, secure the vehicle at the first available bus stop and inform your garage by way of vehicle coms of the situation, and await fitter. And as a professional driver, you should be constantly looking in your mirrors, you would have noticed the white smoke coming from the engine area of the vehicle, that's the first sign of over heating.
Yeah, the driver should have followed these simple procedures but failed to do so, so yes I agree, the driver is to blame for neglect and showing a lack of care for the safety of the passengers. Thanks for the full safety procedure BTW, very useful if I come across this scenario again.
@@cwcptravel6936 I was a bus driver just as London Transport was going privatized, and have been psv 1 & hgv1 for 40 years now, British Army 79-84 in my opinion, standards must be maintained at all times, and passenger safety at all times comes first. Glad you found my input of good standing.
Yeah driving up hill hard with a full load on whilst overheating is pretty bad. Volvo’s are some of the best engines out there and whilst I can understand the driver not wanting to be stranded, they should have stopped sooner.
I don't either. If it was me I would have contacted the depot and let them deal with it. Because if that engine blew up or caught fire the driver would be in the wrong and taken to court if someone got hurt. Very serious!
If the driver isn't taking the opportunity to switch the engine off, when he has the opportunity to do so, then of course the engine is going to dry out and if there's not really enough water then it stands to reason that the engine will go on fire. Bad driver habits, and it's usually the ones who have been driving for decades who are the biggest perpetrators due to arrogance and ignorance. The exact same thing happens with the Police traffic cars around the UK, so much so that BMW has told the UK Police forces that they will no longer be supplying them with their vehicles.
Well older buses cant be turned off at stops of traffic lights because they take to long to restart so yea at the terminus but they’ll get at most 5 minutes off before its back on
The driver has endangered his passengers to such an extent that he's ran the vehicle out of coolant completely and as such could have caused the vehicle to go up in flames due to the heat. What an idiot. Supposed to have a duty of care towards his passengers and should have realised given the buzzer and the amount of steam pouring from the back of the thing that he should have instantly parked it and rang for roadside assistance from the depot. Instead he chose to drive it back and risk not only the vehicle but the lives of everyone on board, that is a driver that doesn't deserve the right to serve the public if this is how he chooses to deal with the emergency at hand.
![[HD WS] *🎶 TUNEFUL ZF 🎶* First 69154 (MX06 VOH) at LN52](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z7mLp2_IPTQ/mqdefault.jpg)
That's why Volvo engines are the best, they go though the worst and still end up giving their best!
I completely agree with you there, built to last those B7's!
@@cwcptravel6936Transdev still have some 2003 B7RLEs in their fleet as well as 2001 B10BLEs.
as much as that doesn't sound healthy, that ZF gearbox does sound quite nice. good video.
The ZF on 66722 you could hear from one side of Bath to the other. lol 😂
Where i live (in dorset/Hampshire) this is the opposite the driver went to the depot to get a different bus because two of the interior lights didn't work, the company was morebus, good job morebus
Hehe, I once had a Volvo B10m suffer a problem (not sure what thought it did start to smell like burning oil quite a bit as the bus progressed towards it's final stop) that started halfway it's journey with intermittent "master caution beeps", literally doing the "Ding!" and then stop, lighting up the master caution lights once or twice and then go off again.
With every stop at either a busstop or traffic light we seemed to have more trouble getting moving but the engine kept sounding normal.
I was surprised to see people responding to what was happening though (which is good, don't get me wrong), people in The Netherlands would be so caught up in their phone they wouldn't notice a single thing, unless the driver would start to actively request people to get off because of a possible fire-warning...seeing that much steam come out the back would be a sign for me to get off at least...along with hearing the master caution "ding" sound and just overall how bad the engine started to sound, along with it cutting out 2 times...
Ugh that engine suffered tremendously...I get that as a driver you'd hate to have to tell your passengers that they will have to wait for another bus because yours is suffering technical problems but this was just insane.
Thankfully I have experienced drivers immediately stopping when a particular series of buses we used to have here (MAN Lion City's) tended to "poop out" something out of their exhaust (it looked like oil, not sure what it was) only to then start producing A LOT of thick blue smoke out of the engine compartment at certain intervals only to make sure their engine wasn't on fire.
My brother once had a bus that was actively having a fire alarm out of the blue and the driver immediately stopped and requested everyone to get of. My brother was near the stop he had to be and said that there was gray smoke coming out the back, so it was probably a serious, actual warning.
God takes me back i remember first Glasgows last few in passenger service they still do the driver training but wow its amazing throw back that engine sound is something ill never forget to whine of it is just so unique
5:34 And I can definitely hear the passengers panicking possibly realising the bus is gonna breakdown and I can hear the screech on the bus after it turn the corner
Similar thing happened when I was on a B7TL Gemini 1, that very same beep came from the cab but the driver pulled at the next avaliable stop.
Yeah as they should
Great way to blow an engine. Some companies tell drivers to drive it until it won't go any further.
Sounds like Arriva the shires & any independent company
@@Transport-Coolfunr absolutely correct I was on 4025 and it overheated after it went up naphill
@Hayley Wonders the best idea I would think of would be stopping at a nearby bus stop and check the engine
other than that the driver should see what that tractor noise is
This comes from the tendency in a lot of bus companies to not fix issues when they are first reported, but to instead leave the vehicle in service until it finally gives up completely. There is a good chance that this vehicle had been reported time and time again when a simple repair could have brought it back into serviceable condition. Instead you finish up with this. A very short sighted policy in many ways. And one that often leaves the drivers very frustrated.
Some companies have their bus drivers have to drive until the bus stops completely
ecomats sound the best even in tough times lol
The driver really should have queried the issue when the “tractor” sound arose.
We had this issue on some ALX400s and it’s fair to say they they were swiftly taken out of service and a (newer) replacement bus dispatched.
Luckily we were just down the road from the depot at the time, but even so it was a high frequency route so wouldn’t have been too much of an inconvenience to passengers.
Surely there’s a policy in place to stop at the next safest location after a warning buzzer sounds?
They drive round for months with the ticking noise it's just the exhaust manifold gasket not a major issue to cause them to be taken "swiftly out of service"
@@LVideo1000 no but the overheating issue would be.
One thing ive learnt working at a bus depot is how oblivious drivers are to problems
How the driver didn’t notice all that steam in his/her mirrors to is a cause to wonder. Even when it cut out that’s a sign and the driver didn’t proceeded.
Typical scene in Santiago's Operator Alsacia/Express, listening that tappeting were quite usual, and still those Volvos could give the Pace needed.
Are strong buses these B7Rs
As a driver myself I'd of stopped as soon as I noticed the temperature gauge going up it wouldnt have go to the coolant alarm going off. We have scania Omnidekkas where I work that dont like the hot weather much so I tend to watch the gauge like a hawk in the summer.
Every bus i've been on that's overheated the drivers have pulled over straight away. One driver told me if their bus has overheated and carried on driving they risk losing their job
@@jaggass probably wouldn't lose the job but they'd be in serious trouble. An overheating engine is a serious fire risk.
That engine has absolutely had it I reckon, I’d say give it a week or two and it’ll blow. That’s absolutely shocking, West of England shouldn’t send a bus like that out for service!
I 100% agree with you on your comment, and yes they shouldn't have sent this bus out in this condition or even kept driving it. I expect as long as the engine starts they think it's fine to use it. Very lazy tbh.
Buy the way they did on ariva,first and tower transit
Given my previous experiences with WoE back in 2017-2019 it doesn't surprise me one bit they sent this hunk of junk out... and the driver ignored how obviously broken it is.
Just low on coolant.. Depends how low it actually is
Blown Head Gasket causing the ticking noise which is exhaust air passing into the cooling system, causing the overheating. Steam coming from the rear would be normal in the event of an overheat, as the cap to fill the cooling system lets the air pressure out at a certain P.S.I . You can hear the driver not using much throttle before and after Pennyquick to try to stop it overheating again and again, but Bath depot were trying to kill these off.
Poor bus. It didn’t deserve to suffer. :(
I do like the tractor sound tho.
Yes bus I dont like the tractor sound as it means that something in the bus is going through hell
@@Austin_allegro they were able to drive with it for several months and nothing happened, only the bus was louder with this "cycling" of the engine.
Exhaust manifold is the ticking noises
Ah, the good old rod bearing noise 🤤
The bus driver is trying to get everyone to the destination he turned off the engine to allow heat to release then turned it back on the bus lasted longer the bus sounds knackered but he made the bus last a bit longer.
Great video and really cool engine sounds
I had this problem when I was going on the bus 74 and I heard the beeping sound, which has something to do with engine, the smoke wasn't going off for me tho, the driver had to take the bus out of service unlike this bus on video
When i was a kid, i was in a bus where smoke came in the bus 🤔 The bus driver did stop and didnt keep going
5:08 there’s the smoke coming out from the back and there he’s stalled it
You can't stall an automatic dumbo
5:40 It’s like a Kettle that’s gonna blow itself up
Eventually it did on it's way to being transferred to Norwich, lol🤣
@@cwcptravel6936 Oh nooooooooooo
@@cwcptravel6936 wait did it!?
@@cwcptravel6936 the engine blew?
The Ecomat sounding🤩 though but this is how you cause bus fires putting lives at risk
Oh yes, bus definitely sounds like it's seen better days.☹😳
One of our ALX 400’s used to make this sound but only taking off after a stop. But the ticking was nothing like that poor B7
Yes, I have experienced it quite a few times myself as well, however, 66722 was just in a severe state of condition from being abused in this video.
The audible warning you hear is just the 'STOP' on all mk3 volvo dashboards. It would simply just flash on the little screen the driver sees.
jesus that shaking sound of the engine sounds so painful lol
I can hear the alarm going off looks like overheating warning
Yeah that bus does sound like a tractor
And 5:03 I can see smoke puffing out of the back of the bus just as the bus’s engine conks out
The warning beeping/light means stop not carry on
I would stop at the nearest safest bus stop and then call depot I ain't taking any risks
sounds like the exhaust is blowing
Volvo D7 engine and ZF Ecomat.
Same energy!
66907 developed a ticking noise like that and preston bus canned the bus entirely, why not the same bere?
had the same happend to me on first essex as they need to do there safety checks more
firstgroup in general are normally pretty serious about their checks
Thx now i know wat i listening out for on the bus 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0:02 sound like Alexandra Dennis ENVIRO 200 mmc
Cool video
JUST LISTEN TO THAT ZF OMGGGG
It must be a problem with a water system because the tanks last for like 2 to 3 travels before going to the depot and getting chect ups
I worked at first for a while that chugging is a gasket in the intercooler that's blown and as for continuing we got told stop check for issue report it "not safe don't do it"
Unfortunately some drivers have no mechanical sympathy. I've been driving 66881 and its overheated and it cut the engine 5 times after going up pennyquick before I could safely pull over but it didnt sound anything like this poor bus (which was my favourite B7), it was a hot day and pennyquick just killed it. Unfortunately these buses are now gone sadly.
Yea it's very sad when buses are in horrible state like this, if it was me driving, I would of just rang the depot to come and sort out the issue, as I wouldn't want the blame for causing a bus to catch fire or something worse. I mean I have been on the 5 many times and despite how old and tired some of these B7RLE's were I still find interesting and overall not to bad of a ride. Now we got the Ex-Mendips on here we will have to wait and see how they plan out. 69458 has a slight ticking noise like this one from the last time I rided it, not sure if it still has that ticking or not now?
Now with us at Olive Grove... im yet to spot it, so hopefully at some point I'll get to see it!
@@duraab27 Oh nice! I didn't realise it was still alive and running, I was told on from Mendip Bus the engine went bang on its apparent transfer to Norwich, however, this is great news what you told me if this is true, I'll have to make a visit there. Thanks for letting me know mate! 😀
The problem is modern buses are made lighter and with smaller engines also cheaper components that are not up to the punishment they get. I live in Northampton and stagecoach are still using 06 plate dennis tridents that seem to keep plodding on no matter what. I used to like driving tridents apart from one's that had brakes that nearly put you through the windscreen if you just touched the pedal with a toe.
this eclipse is older than that,regardless i doubt a trident could keep running if its was overheating too without eventually failing.
I live there too, and unfortunately they are finally starting to disappear one-by-one and being replaced with some E400 N230UD.The tridents have always been the best busses we've had over the years.
We've just received some brand-new E400 MMC's
Great video but driver should of stopped as soon as warning sound was going off not continue putting passengers at risk there
What company does the bus operate for?
i have been in a bus a volov that overheated and shut down it self. then just start it up and it was like no problem for some time... back at the busdepaue it get water and then it was no more problem all day long...
Ticky tick tick tick 😢😢😢
Poor thing, he should’ve pulled over when the beeping started. Reminds me of a similar situation I had on one of my school buses where we overheated to the point steam was coming out the back. But he did stop and he had already contacted the depot.
If I was the bus driver I would stop immediately at the safest spot as soon as it started beeping. They obviously haven’t trained the drivers correctly here if this situation occurs.
The driver made the passenger panicked for not letting the bus cool down
He let it cool down when he turned the engine off for a while
@@thamesdown5532the engine cut out he didn’t turn it off
I would like to know why the bus driver continued to bloody dive it will catch fire ffs how thick can u get
Sounds to me like a leaky injector. Had same sound on my volvo b6 and the engine caught fire due to the fuel on the hot engine
Great video mate the poor bus sounds worse than a tractor
Gotta love volvo zf
I feel really bad for that bus, although the driver should’ve stopped, I think he was wanting the bus to just make it as he didn’t want to be stranded on side
I think the driver was aware before hand the bus was making a ticking sound when it left the bus station, just decided to ignore, which is foolish.
@@cwcptravel6936 That is so common. Drivers are their own worst enemies and seemingly will ignore serious defects. I would like to see the DVSA take earlier action and prosecute drivers and companies putting customers and other road users at risk. I would also like to see engineers more accountable when knowingly allowing defective vehicles to operate a service. I found the way to get round this was to ensure that I asked the engineer to sign off as fit for service, any vehicle with a PG9 defect. Strangely enough they never did! I also had an app on my phone which listed all defects which could lead to an immediate or delayed prohibition, so I could call out any manager or engineer being economical with the truth. Unfortunately, most drivers don't seem to understand the potentially catastrophic consequences of their actions. To remove doubt, those consequences can lead to massive fines, loss of licence and in a worst case scenario, a custodial sentence. That is apart from possibly living with causing the death or serious injury of innocent victims. In later years, cost cutting on maintenance and bullying of drivers was commonplace. Although I still enjoyed the driving and meeting my customers, the job was so ruined by the poor ethos that retirement was a welcome escape.
Sorry to get on my soap box, but I feel very strongly about professional driving standards.
@@cwcptravel6936 they aren’t allowed to look under the engine not much he could of done 🤷♂️
Its quite sad to see one of these break down as I adore these buses and we have hardly any left in ni as the GB hawks have replaced them
Drivers who show this much arrogance/lack of care for their vehicle and passengers should face disciplinary procedures, shameful how they kept on driving this bus for so long after an obvious fault occured.
Yes, I completely agree with your point there!
Yet if you phone in and are told to keep going. Which happens in a lot of companies.
Totally agree .The comments from some of their customers say it all with some of them leaving because they are worried about the bus catching fire. Terrible customer service IMO. At least having a dialog with the passengers about why he's doing that. Something like saying the bus is poorly but fine to stay in service , and if it gets worse you can get on a replacement bus at least.
Not withstanding the vehicle abuse aspect of it - the squealing should have been a prompt for him to stop and investigate.
Hill climb? That bus wouldn't be able to handle that
Sounds as if the bus isn't really properly maintained by the Mechanics at the local FG bus depot.
Either that or it's maybe just done so many miles that it's probably needing sold or scrapped.
Sounds a bit broken with that ticking!
Yea sadly 66722 has started to have a bit of a ticking sound. Last year when Lawrence Hill operated the 37 there was an even chance at getting a B7RLE and I remember 2 of them had this ticking noise, now there in driver training. But the 54 plates are going strong but soon there will no longer be any old buses in Bath.
@@cwcptravel6936 Yea it's a shame they are going, though their age is starting to show, especially with WX54 XCM with its sticky gears
I ❤ ZF
In Astana we are have MAZ-203.067, and this ZF is sounds like our MAZ!
The bus was over heating so the warning is it needs water and tell the driver that it's overheating
I hope that driver has now been sacked. He is an absolute asshole for forcing this poor bus
He hasn't, ironically I seen this driver today doing the X39 from Bath to Bristol. But yeah a few First employees have seen this, however, I don't have the time to go reporting drivers, First will eventually catch on to bad drivers themselves.
@@cwcptravel6936 have you got any other social media sights? I'm on all of them
@@kieransbusvids7910 Instagram and Discord, also I post in bus groups on Facebook, I'm in a few, but the main ones are around the south-west area
@@cwcptravel6936 im kieran pittard on Facebook
Collector Exhaust
my bus like this sounded like a tractor today
6822 has the same problem in Norwich it sounds like a tractor engine and always overheats
He should've stopped the bus and pulled over completely and rang the guys at the depot rather than keep on going because otherwise that will cause the engine to blow up completely. I do not get it some bus drivers. They do not care about the bus thinking there's nothing wrong with it. It's never like that in First Worcestershire at all.
Does the driver not have any gauges to show temperature etc. Or incapable of telling by his "bum" there is a problem
Engine sounds like a Plaxton Prestige
Fast bus
Most of the buses are not owned by the bus company the loans so the keep driving them and then get a new bus out
Poor bus, I've heard her from the outside recently, certainly not in a good way! She'll be off for scrap now, with this new lockdown & the ULEZ coming into force
Yea, I agree. Sadly the time has come and the remaining First bus classics will be gone. With Covid 19 I would think a lot of people are short pocketed so chances are these wont get a chance for preservation.
She’s still surviving! Been on the 5s again for another round today.
@@tobytrainspotter That's quite surprising! I suppose 69446 must be struggling then.
446 is out as well!
@@mendip4134 I agree 66722 is on its last legs. Never been a massive fan of it but seeing this does hurt a little deep down :(
Remember guys they favoured this bus over the b10ble
That driver wants sacking for not stopping and reporting to depot there was an overheating issue, poor b7 engine
They get told to keep going till it fully breaks down. Also he wouldn’t be allowed to diagnose the problem. So therefore he couldn’t report
1...PSV rules and regulations, not the bus company that state the driver is responsible for the safety of the passengers, and the condition of the vehicle, while in service, at all times, and to report any defects to the Allocation office, who then inform the Engineer/supervisor. 2...Then issues a "VOR" notice on the vehicle, (vehicle off road=VOR) you should park safely at the nearest bus stop and secure the vehicle, and ask the passengers to wait for the next bus and continue on with their journey, and 3...send out a replacement vehicle, along with a fitter and van with tools and fluids etc to either repair VOR bus, or arrange for vehicle recovery of the VOR bus, the bus company is responsible for 100% vehicle maintenance at all times, it is not a managers job to say take it out what ever the cost, that is why there are no "Cowboys" in the Passenger service industry, as you will be held fully responsible in the eyes of the Law, and the courts, and would be held fully responsible for any injuries to the passengers if the vehicle should burst into flames, due to negligence and or, any passenger got injured in any way due to that negligence. ? think it is £10000 fine and up to 5 years in prison too.
As for this driver, he/she should be on a warning for negligence, (this video is evidence in a court of Law too.) and will be held responsible for any damages done to the vehicle whilst he/she was in charge of it, as he/she signed for it on his Rota Duty, so he/she is fully responsible for the vehicle, and as soon as any of the dashboard warning lights or buzzers sound alarm goes off, secure the vehicle at the first available bus stop and inform your garage by way of vehicle coms of the situation, and await fitter.
And as a professional driver, you should be constantly looking in your mirrors, you would have noticed the white smoke coming from the engine area of the vehicle, that's the first sign of over heating.
Yeah, the driver should have followed these simple procedures but failed to do so, so yes I agree, the driver is to blame for neglect and showing a lack of care for the safety of the passengers. Thanks for the full safety procedure BTW, very useful if I come across this scenario again.
@@cwcptravel6936 I was a bus driver just as London Transport was going privatized, and have been psv 1 & hgv1 for 40 years now, British Army 79-84 in my opinion, standards must be maintained at all times, and passenger safety at all times comes first.
Glad you found my input of good standing.
I can hear the engine overheating and it’s like a tractor with that noise
Sounds Like A G Reg Tractor With A ZF
The driver still driving when you can tell the buses is not working right
5:33 😢
I can hear engine roaring on the bus
Bloody hell he should not have kept going with that lot kicking out the back passengers sound frightened that thing could’ve blown up
Oh definitely, the driver took a dangerous risk that day, not following the right procedures.
Sounds like our 66741
Yeah driving up hill hard with a full load on whilst overheating is pretty bad. Volvo’s are some of the best engines out there and whilst I can understand the driver not wanting to be stranded, they should have stopped sooner.
i know that the enigne was in a bad state but i thought it sounded epic
oh my god :O that bus does'nt sound so good at all. is it fixed now?
I think it’s been sold due to ULEZ
@@thamesdown5532 really?
When a bus over heats it will come up a red light
Why did you restart the bus u should of called the machine
You mean mechanic lol
I’m sorry but that’s the drivers fault for carrying on. Should have stopped you could tell it’s worsening
some companies make drivers drive till the bus is no longer usable.
Poor eclipse 1...
Everything goes wrong on the bus
Some companies make the buses keep going until the stop completely! This is unacceptable
Smokey bus
Sounds like a blowing injector
I don’t get why he continue to drive it like this
I don't either. If it was me I would have contacted the depot and let them deal with it. Because if that engine blew up or caught fire the driver would be in the wrong and taken to court if someone got hurt. Very serious!
@@cwcptravel6936 yep I 100% agree with you I would as soon as that alarm was going off I would stop and ring depot I wouldn’t continue driving
If the driver isn't taking the opportunity to switch the engine off, when he has the opportunity to do so, then of course the engine is going to dry out and if there's not really enough water then it stands to reason that the engine will go on fire.
Bad driver habits, and it's usually the ones who have been driving for decades who are the biggest perpetrators due to arrogance and ignorance.
The exact same thing happens with the Police traffic cars around the UK, so much so that BMW has told the UK Police forces that they will no longer be supplying them with their vehicles.
Well older buses cant be turned off at stops of traffic lights because they take to long to restart so yea at the terminus but they’ll get at most 5 minutes off before its back on
The driver has endangered his passengers to such an extent that he's ran the vehicle out of coolant completely and as such could have caused the vehicle to go up in flames due to the heat. What an idiot. Supposed to have a duty of care towards his passengers and should have realised given the buzzer and the amount of steam pouring from the back of the thing that he should have instantly parked it and rang for roadside assistance from the depot. Instead he chose to drive it back and risk not only the vehicle but the lives of everyone on board, that is a driver that doesn't deserve the right to serve the public if this is how he chooses to deal with the emergency at hand.
The smack
these drivers these days they should hear the warning alarm u never know it might gone bad. You Couldve told the driver aswell
6:40
an tractor with ZF transmission