watching Makkro struggle to understand his teammates lack of macro is amusing. i figured there was an inherent understanding that these people aren't in challenger for a reason.
to be fair, i'd be just as annoyed at their lack of mechanics too lmao. Tryndamere was a non-factor that entire game, always in the wrong place at the wrong time, Jinx refusing to use her machine gun with Poppy, Hecarim, Leona, and Irelia all diving her, Bard whiffing ults and refusing to use portal to save Makkro. Ahri was the only decent player mechanically, and even then she still got caught by Poppy and Irelia from time to time.
It's not just lack of macro and/or micro, often times yes, but if enemy's abuses 200 years/meta they are getting chall and you won't even if you're Faker incarnate
Using the wiki calculations 10k hp with your armour at 18:30 (236) is about the same as a 4 item build with 4.5k hp and 304 armour (assuming the enemy has last whisper, if not; 284 armour). The gold saved with such a build is -19,4%, concluding that building jacksho is about equal if not better than having 1653 heartsteel stacks. Second wind gives the HP a bit more value but that would mean you lose out on 5% from conditioning. The relative HP5 lost by having such a huge HP pool is also concerning, hence your need for a warmogs to make this even remotely viable. This build results in 35 ability haste which is 15 under the SOFT cdr cap, a vast loss of pontential during teamfights. Build rating: 4/10 Conclusion: Don't build heartsteel if you expect to get less than 1400 stacks in a game.
@@fuxemup Yes those make it remotely viable, if at all. If it had no damage the entire item would have no point. Hearsteel is a damage item for tanks, not survivability. What I meant is that armour pen is the worst case scenario, if people do NOT have armour pen there is no way hearsteel will be even remotely good compared to normal resistance items (on Ornn, a resistance tank).
Second wind favours resistances over hp, % missing hp regeneration doesn't mean your hp gets higher value if it's lower effective value due to lacking resistances and the 3 base regen scales only with reductions. Building hp was never the way to survive more damage unless faced with high true damage, for a while now hp is the way to output more damage, with 3 tank items scaling on it and being able to kill squishy enemies is very effective at making you not die.
@@vael167 I agree with both your statements, as for the second wind: I never meant it was, I said it's atleast a way to slightly counteract the fact that your hp5 is less valuable because of your higher HP pool.
Alternate title: Challanger ornn top otp plays in low elo with expected results.
Even better
Yeah, it does looks fun to watch but there almost no challenge.
Almost like Zwag or Alois videos.
@@JeyNLik And?
@@RyanReynolds42069 There is no "And".
It is what it is: mostly fun, sometimes boring, everyone does that.
@@JeyNLik who do you watch i get bored watching this too XD ?
watching Makkro struggle to understand his teammates lack of macro is amusing. i figured there was an inherent understanding that these people aren't in challenger for a reason.
to be fair, i'd be just as annoyed at their lack of mechanics too lmao. Tryndamere was a non-factor that entire game, always in the wrong place at the wrong time, Jinx refusing to use her machine gun with Poppy, Hecarim, Leona, and Irelia all diving her, Bard whiffing ults and refusing to use portal to save Makkro.
Ahri was the only decent player mechanically, and even then she still got caught by Poppy and Irelia from time to time.
@@Dracon350 this is bronze ish lmao
It's not just lack of macro and/or micro, often times yes, but if enemy's abuses 200 years/meta they are getting chall and you won't even if you're Faker incarnate
@@Daefin Its gold elo
@@toad7395 same difference
If the toplaner tank has the double digit kills somethings wrong in the team
7:14 THE war scream xD
Your Ornn is a big boy😂❤
What elo is Makkro playing in now?
Edit: Bruh why is he playing in gold???
Fanta mentos
I don’t want Smurf anymore :( use your talent
Vlad complaining about a tank champ is crazy.
I need the replay code for that vald game, I have a hunch he flashed at the start of the match
Using the wiki calculations 10k hp with your armour at 18:30 (236) is about the same as a 4 item build with 4.5k hp and 304 armour (assuming the enemy has last whisper, if not; 284 armour).
The gold saved with such a build is -19,4%, concluding that building jacksho is about equal if not better than having 1653 heartsteel stacks.
Second wind gives the HP a bit more value but that would mean you lose out on 5% from conditioning. The relative HP5 lost by having such a huge HP pool is also concerning, hence your need for a warmogs to make this even remotely viable. This build results in 35 ability haste which is 15 under the SOFT cdr cap, a vast loss of pontential during teamfights.
Build rating: 4/10
Conclusion: Don't build heartsteel if you expect to get less than 1400 stacks in a game.
grasp damage is a consideration too. second wind is % based, plus damage from heartsteel. not only that, not everyone has % armor pen or % damage.
@@fuxemup Yes those make it remotely viable, if at all. If it had no damage the entire item would have no point. Hearsteel is a damage item for tanks, not survivability.
What I meant is that armour pen is the worst case scenario, if people do NOT have armour pen there is no way hearsteel will be even remotely good compared to normal resistance items (on Ornn, a resistance tank).
Second wind favours resistances over hp, % missing hp regeneration doesn't mean your hp gets higher value if it's lower effective value due to lacking resistances and the 3 base regen scales only with reductions. Building hp was never the way to survive more damage unless faced with high true damage, for a while now hp is the way to output more damage, with 3 tank items scaling on it and being able to kill squishy enemies is very effective at making you not die.
@@vael167
I agree with both your statements, as for the second wind:
I never meant it was, I said it's atleast a way to slightly counteract the fact that your hp5 is less valuable because of your higher HP pool.
Classic Apoz spewing bs out his mouth 💀
thank god
There is no god
I am sorry I had a rough day