Pressure Testing Saps and Blackjacks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- A common misconception about saps and blackjacks is that they are so small, that they can't possibly pack much of a punch. There is of course a reason why they were relied upon for centuries in close quarter combat. As we will see here, their unique design can be easily tested to show you how much firepower they conceal. To view the full download, please visit:
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I was outnumbered and got stabbed in the head, but I had my 9 inch black jack, I won the fight easily & walked myself to hospital. Blackjacks are one of the most misunderstood weapons out there, the beauty of them is it doesn't take much effort at all to turn an attackers legs to jelly. Full swings are a waste. The problem is most the people that speak about them have never actually used them. They're not the one hit killers most people say they are. I like this take on em, especially the "just get a hit" part, doesn't really matter where, touch em and you'll win.
Ive got an 8" leather sap with an oversized pouch full of lead shot and wasted 2 guys who hassled me in a bar bathroom. No they aren't killers but they'll definitely drop dudes to their knees. One body shot and a backhand to the neck or head and that bitch be crying for momma.
I just hate totalitarian laws against self-defense tools, as if the lawmakers would pay for your loss or damage of property &/or your body, or will take care of you for life when u get disabled or blinded.
@@MangaGamified what if someone use defensive weapon to mug somebody? Its still defensive ?
@Mental Freeze it happens anyways
@@truth294 that's why lethal weapon are baned. Simple
In the 1950''s my grandfather, an auxiliary constable, was called to arrest a man reported to be drunk and disorderly and known to habitually carry a butcher knife when he got in his cups. He didn't give the right answer when Officer G'Pop offered him a hot and a cot in the ironbar. Reaching behind his back was the wrong response and the next question asked was a jab to his forehead with a slap jack in Papa's fist. When he woke up in jail the goose egg on his forehead told the story.
Several years after hearing this story a family friend and a State trooper said to turn the slapjack on it's edge to strike the outside of the thigh or inside fairly high on the leg was a fast way to chop down a hard man or someone on horse tranqs.
Amazing story. Thank you.
My girlfriend just caught me watching this and she said "you're all a bunch of Dwight Schrutes" hahaha
That's awesome lmfao
Oh she's funny AF, lock that one down son 🤣🤣🤣💯💯
Carried one when I worked as a bouncer. If there was only one troublemaker , it would stay in my back pocket (unless he was particularly strong or violent) but once I had two boys that had been ejected for bad behavior. They came back with 4 friends. The problem for them was, the entrance was up a narrow stairway...so they had to come one at a time. When it was over their unconscious bodies were laying one on top of the other. They didn't get back in. A blackjack WILL knock someone out if properly used.
Agreed. I carried one as well bouncing. Very reliable.
Always preferred knuckles myself (smooth) blackjacks always worried me they may cause too much injury 🇬🇧 🤷💪🙏
Narrow stairway.... very good tactical design...yep, I like that..... but of course..... could be a problem.....fall back and regroup works too
As a patrolman back in the 1960s, my dad broke a blackjack over the head of a sailor at a bar called the Thirsty Camel in Norfolk, VA. Probably the seam at the end of blackjack where the lead weight was split, but although he knocked the guy out, he was left holding a leather handle with a spring sticking out the end of it. After that he bought one of the flat slapjacks, and always trusted that better. I joined the same police department in 2000 (and still work there), but these things were long since banned from police use by then, though some old-timers still had the pants with the blackjack pockets in them.
Wow that was a power hit. I prefer the flat ones as well.
And those pockets stay empty 😉
@@systemacanadaback in the day when the Cops really wanted to mess someone up they'd turn those beaver tail slap jacks sideways & hit with the edge...it cut flesh like a dull hatchet...
@@jeffanon1772 Heard an account of that from a retired man a couple months ago..Texas ❤️
8:21 "HOMIE DONT PLAY THAT" 🤣🤣🤣💯💯 the old heads know what im talking about 🤣
My grandfather was employed by the Burns detective agency in Brooklyn, n.y. during the 1950s; he carried a small blackjack( among other weapons). 😊❤ Great video 👍 👌 Kevin!!
Wow! That’s amazing. Thanks so much for watching :)
@systemacanada Your welcome Kevin!! Talk soon.
I like that the blackjack gives you a longer range / distance . Extension. Hammer to jaw.
The whole funny thing is, I never new what a Blackjack was? basically I’m reading Jimmy Hoffa’s book, and he mentioned a Black Jack. The only Black Jack I know of is in playing cards. Thank you kindly for the informative video.
Thanks for watching.
1960s London gangs everyone had one on them because you could take on 3 people at once and if you knew how to use it properly then they were extremely effective. behind the ear, the temple or jaw was what you aimed for, accuracy and speed count for more than a big swing to go for a powerful shot and that makes it less accurate so it was better to drop a big blow to the collar bone.
but if you're facing a good boxer you will really damage hands wrists and elbows in a agonising manner and very little force behind it and the easiest way to get a strike to their hands is by keeping your guard up the sap in your back hand and step back when he jabs and flip the sap straight into the jab so they connect at full extension and it will shatter knuckles and bones in the high speed of impact
The blackjack, slapper and brass knuckles are legal in TEXAS, I keep them around my house just in case someone very stupid thinks they can come in unannounced...
Amazing :)
…you’re in TX and using a non lethal weapon in a lethal situation? …in a state where everyone carries?
@@squiffedalldaynot everyone carries a gun, even in Texas , a good number do not. Also not every situation warrants lethal force.
@@horiturk333bro... the dude said he has them around the house for Intruders.... how the hell does that not warrant a gun? There's a strange is in your HOUSE requiring force of action. How are you going for a sap/ blackjack and not a gun? Christ
@@squiffedalldaythis is dumb as hell, for a home invasion... he's using a sap In texas.
There's illigal cartel out here for Fk sake
Man I remember those! My older brother carried one of them as a police officer back in the early 70s! One day I went to his room and found it under his mattress, man at the time I’ve never seen one or knew the damage it can do! I was a teenager then, so when I thought it was toy! 😂I was playing with it and ended up hitting my jaw with it! Man ouch! What a punch it packed! It almost knocked one of my tooth! It did bruised me, so I put it back under the mattress! And cried my way out of his room! My mom asked me, “What happened to you!? Who hit you?!” I had to come up with some stupid answer! That I had fallen and hit the side of my bed! But my brother knew I was lying and knew I was playing with his blackjack! He told me, “that’s what you get for touching what is not yours! After that I learned my lesson! But I was hooked with those things. Now I own quite a few of them, and different sizes, I keep a few in the house, in the garage and in my car. Love them. But you learn to respect them and used them!👌😂👍
Ouch indeed. No one ever expects the impact it packs.
For the joggers- waterbottle on a tether or in a sock (of course make it look nice) WOW!
I was given a Convoy in the mid 80’s. A striking pattern I was shown was left fingers to the eyes, upper cut with the jack under the chin, followed by a lateral strike to the left side of the jaw and then a 45 degree down stroke across the right collar bone angled toward the left hip if that makes any sense. One distraction, three quick strikes. If the attacker is still wanting to fight after that, there are big problems. Never had to use it.
Police where I'm from used to have a pocket on their pants just for a slapjack. An old timer told me he was chasing a suspect once and couldn't quite catch him so pulled out the slapjack and hit him in the head and the guy tumbled head over heels.
Those pockets still exist on many pants.
Came on the job and was issued,and required to carry a blackjack at roll call.
We were trained only with the 26" baton.
I carried and used both,and got most of my training with the ASP 26" expandable.
I see the need for training with this tool.
Then issue and TRAIN with them.
I meant the training with blackjack.
@@scaatylobo fully agree. It’s such a wonderful tool.
A alternative so not charged when using is a garden hose cut with metal end piece. Most all states slack jacks and black Jacks are illigeal. I was taught by an old police officer who moon lighted as security guard for extra cash to carry a piece of garden hose that could fit in pocket or down pants. This is seen as a piece ordinary garden tool, not a weapon. It's spring flexible , but heavy and metal end piece. Another alternative in heavy nuts loopped through thick string.
In many countries if used as a weapon, then it is a weapon - a brick, a stone, a piece of wood, a tree branch, a garden hose, any type of tool...
I made a beautiful out of rubber truck brake line.
Filled with shot, 3/8 " threaded bolts screwed into the ends. Super innocent bland looking 7"'- 8" tube laying loose
@@draganromcevic6337 that's why "skull - to - pavement" (or wall for that matter) is still the most hassle free option..👍🏻
"I don't know officer, he tript and just head-butted the planet..." And "I sidestepped and he ran himself into the wall"
Are perfect, as long as there's no cams..😂
When I was a kid in the early 80s I was living in a tough town in the States. I had trouble with some bullies who were way bigger than me. I started to carry a blackjack. One day the main bully approached me in an alley and threated me. I was standing next to a large aloe plant. I whipped out the blackjack and destroyed the aloe plant, and the bully got back on his bike and left. He was in shock. I never had any trouble with him again. I carried that sap for a few years, till we moved to a better neighborhood. But I knew the power of the weapon. I would never carry one now unless I lived somewhere it was legal.
Amazing :)
Not having much experience fighting,ive gone thru a more extensive firearm course and train mainly with it.at 60 fighting might not be in my favor,but your video was not only intriguing but also inspiring if i may say.i would prefer not killing if i could defend with a sap.seems as a great equalizer.thank you ,subbed for more teachings.your a great teacher
Don't underestimate a shot to the groin, thigh or shin. the groin and shin will drop a guy and the thigh will give a major Charlie horse and slow them down. avoid strikes to joints.
Thanks for the video. I'd like to have a sap someday. I don't know whether I'll get around to ordering one. I have a long wishlist of these kinds of items.
The one I carry can also be used as a jabbing tool to the ribs if you find yourself in a clinch.
Amazing
That in an impressive bruise on the head - I hope you‘ve recovered ok 👍
Yes I’m all good. Thankfully it was a padded trainer and I was wearing a helmet.
I like your style. I conceal carry the Denver when in public. Hope I never have to use it.
Thanks for watching.
Check your state laws. In some states these are legal on your own property, at your own place of business et al. Oddly in the same category as pistols, etc.
I'm Irish and we used to have a sweet called black jacks!
Your drunk
I carried one as a police officer. The advantages are that they were easier to carry than a 26” baton. Then also would not draw blood like a baton to the head or a flash light to the head. The D cell flashlights were by far the most effective impact weapons. A black jack or slap jack would fit in your back pocket and bend with you when you sat down. They have nowhere near the power of a straight baton or a flashlight ( not the little lights they issue now 5 “D” size battery lights). You might have to hit a man six times in the head with a slap jack ( a flat blackjack) to put him out of the fight. They were made of leather, spring steel in the handle and an once of lead in the head or striking portion.
I read that as " flesh light to the head". 😂 I need my glasses.
@tampa_sal those will work too lol
@@tampa_salI worked in an adult cinema for a few years in early 00's
We kept a 10" black solid rubber dildo under our counter which I can attest worked quite well as a rudimentary blackjack on a couple of occasions 😂😂😂
Oh, blackjack strikes to the head DEFINITELY cause lots of bleeding...the scalp has tons of capillaries & a hit from a bleeds like crazy ..
They seem under powered but get a few coconuts or dry branches and give them a go . They are NO JOKE. What's great is being made of leather they don't seem out of place in your pocket . Although I've found people rarely notice what you carry . And the ones that do are the ones that also carry .
Exactly right.
All the cops I knew in NYC in the 70s swore by the Sap.
Absolutely.
@@systemacanadaback in the day those old school bulls would part someone's hair with a blackjack in a heartbeat...
Of course, they killed a few & gave a lot more epilepsy..but anyone who'd seen one in action was reluctant to attack a Cop ...
A buddy once responded to a bar fight in progress & when he walked in one of the guys gave up the fight, but the other one turned & squared off on him with his fists raised ..
Someone in the crowd called out "Don't do it, Billy...the Cops in this town don't use their fists, they use blackjacks"....
The guy hesitated for a moment & opened his fists & raised his hands in surrender...LOL
Do you have Robert Escobars book on blackjacks? It really revealed the deep history of these weapons to me.
Yes I do. It’s fantastic.
Yes I have the book too. It’s a superb book. I read it cover to cover. I’ve made a few Saps myself, they are very doable once you get the hang of it. For spring steel I just cut a strip off old saw blades. I then take the same angle grinder, cut a slit in the lead weight and fibreglass or jb weld the strip into the lead. Then it’s just a matter of cutting the leather, gluing and stitching. The finished article is well worth it. 👍🇬🇧
10:36 about the limbs great advice
Barnes and Nobles book has these, kinda, as open book weights in the gift type section. No strap but still thick leather and weight at both ends. Would clunk hard ah
Yes the legal way to sell them is as book weights or coin purses.
This seems so much better than a knife 🔪, if you lose the knife it can be used against you.
Also with certain clothing slash attacks to the body fo nothing, and you have to stab.
The sap does damage regardless like a heavy weapon does
Night sticks are wonderful too
Absolutely
I watched 2 bouncers in Fort Smith Arkansas clean house with a slapjack in their hands. They then proceeded to drag the unconscious idiots outside and onto the sidewalk where they napped until their ride to the grey bar motel showed up. Great little tools.
Hello Sir, Thank you for this very good video. I live in Germany and I search for those things. My grandfather told me once stories of this effective weapons. Best wishes.
You should have Houston Jones test them. I bet they don’t hurt him.
Lol
I’m one of the old timers. I’ve carried a blackjack in the army flying dust off to get epw to release his hands inside of aircraft. Also as a police officer after my retirement. Most videos show the wrong use of the wrist strap
How so ? U mean ur not supposed to use it to choke ppl ?
@@unverifiedverified4418 you are to be disrespected, but the lib moderators/AI won't allow it..
But for the honorable..it should be hung from the thumb across the backside of your hand. when wrapped back around, you have good retention, but if the enemy should gain a grip on your defensive weapon, you can let go and he wont have control of you hand, which he would if it was around your wrist... it slips right off.
Then you employ your sidearm 🙂
Respect
@@boostismagicexactly...a wrist strap can trap one's arm if someone is able to grab the blackjack...
But I did see an awesome use of one on the old show Cops once, LOL...
Two female Officers were trying to arrest a drunk in a bar who wasn't really fighting them, he was just strong enough to pull away & keep them from putting his hands behind his back to cuff him and his girlfriend kept pulling at the older female Cop's arm trying to help her boyfriend.
After a couple of times of pushing the girl away the older female Cop flipped her wrist up catching the blackjack on the wrist strap & nailed the girl square on the chin as she stepped in to grab the Cop's arm again...she dropped like a puppet with the strings cut 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jeffanon1772 They are effective helpers in close-quarters situations..I’m gonna try to learn to round plait so I can re-create the old police model.
I have the correct rawhide, and my own for reference..but it’s the starting and ending of the plait that is the part where you need true skill.
Found some whip makers vids that are close, but those crown knots they create are another level, almost unfathomable. And they don’t begin with the round, lead-filled head when making a whip…that’s stumping me.
I own a sap but never appreciated the blackjack until now. Ty!
Thanks for watching.
I have made my own Saps a couple of years ago. I’m going to make a blackjack next. I have a spring coming, and I already have the lead smelter so that’s sorted- it’s just the leather wrapping up that I’m going to have to learn. How do you hide the seam? Turn the leather inside out?
All of the saps I have have exposed seams and they hold up fine and look great
@@systemacanada thanks Kevin. 👍
Kevin great content. Question how do you feel about the expandable police batons? Is there an advantage or disadvantage to using them compared to the Sap/Blackjack?
I’m a fan. It’s worthwhile investing in a quality one if you’re going to rely on them. They obviously offer more range but are heavier to carry. A sap is much easier to carry and is flexible so it absorbs recoil but a baton offers easier targeting knees and lets you stay further away.
You might enjoy this old trailer : th-cam.com/video/VFbAJifG4rw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=u3Pn3EzdUEoFH5f5
@@systemacanadaThank you kindly for the response. It is very helpful. If you happen to know of any places that train your system in California, please let me know and I will be there :) Thank again.
I find them pretty similar in some aspects to the nagaika used to strike with a handle kept just below its end where the flexible part starts.
Also with kuban (nothing to do with Cuba!) nagaikas I have, their very slightly weighted business end (just more braiding resulting in twice as much thickness) transfers more energy on the hit, although they are much longer (mine are respectively 50 and 70cm) so they are used a bit differently.
Absolutely. Just a pocket version. As small as it is, ultimately it’s a flexible weapon.
@Jon Henson Absolutely. I’ve seen it with a sap. I saw a guy dropped with a sap shot to the thigh fwhich would never be my go to but it just took him out and he was barely able to breathe he was in so much pain. I’ve also seen a tear drop sap the size of a key chain split a guy open wide and disorient him so badly he almost walked into traffic. I’ve seen a few knockouts with them at close range. A lot of the first team I worked the door with were religious about them. The thing is they absorb recoil so you can just swing with reckless abandon. I’ll do a review of my newest sap later this week and show the differences between some models. It’s all about the weight distribution. A tip heavy sap can really multiple your force. I personally used them at very close range with tighter hits a few times and they always created space and stunned. I have a lot of confidence in them but it boils down to how you fight. You need to mix them with your style of movement.
@Jon Henson I have a bit in my edc and cane download. A few other clips on TH-cam. I’ve read a few books in them but they were pretty terrible . There isn’t a lot out there on them.
@@systemacanada exactly!
Bob looks like he has seen some action.
He definitely has lol
Palm saps were once highly favored by police for rousting work (ejecting squatters), what makes them really effective is wearing them under gloves as they give unexpected power to open hand strikes and that leads to easy K.O.s
Palm saps are incredible.
15:08 Worst Foot injury I've seen on youtube.
Great video.There are no blackjacks in Spain so i must be one of the few pioneers :) When i walk the dog after BJJ class is usually late at night and there some guys at the Park gathered together for drug smoking.I guess i will start carrying my blackjack or sap more often :) If you knock out the first the others will think twice about getting closer to you hahaha.
Stay safe out there.
Are they smoking weed? Or something harder?
The problem with this kind of training is the attacker never reacts as someone without padding would. Sure, each attacker can take different levels of pain, but the defender never gets to see the effectiveness of the hits and the attacker keeps attacking after a real hit would have put them on the ground. What this kind of training does do for you, is to let you practice on getting into position to use your weapon. Overall, much better than just hitting on a BOB which will only teach you power, but not distance/timing/real angles.
Absolutely. Every simulation has its limits. This is more for timing and movement. Incidentally some attackers don’t respond as you would expect or feel much in the moment. I’ve fought some zombies working the door, so for building the reflex of continuance and constant drive there is nothing more important. I would rather train overkill and extra drive.
using the SAME current TTP less lethal strikes, the BJ or SAP is more effective that the PR24 or ASP. you just cannot create distance,
@@xusmico187 I agree
I got a much thicker blackjack from my grandpa's stuff, he was a Sheriff's deputy and a Baliff officer for a long time, I'm not sure how to properly use it but it's not as bendy and it's alot bigger then the one shown
There is a huge variety of sizes from little tear drop ones up to huge civil war style ones it’s all a question of what is comfortable for you to carry
How would you say does the impact compare to a 50cm wood baton, or that spring with the metal ball at the end of roughly the same length as the baton? The latter is quite popular among thugs today in Europe, as it is collapsible and works better than the telescopic police baton. BTW, in my childhood, the most frequent weapon besides knives was a double layer of bicycle chains (they just broke it off a parked bicycle and thus the weapon was ubiquitous and free) and that was used pretty much like the blackjack.
Compared to anything rigid of comparable length the impact is much heavier. Compared to the flexible spring batons of the same length it’s about the same depending I. The weight of the sap. I do have some saps however that are quite heavy and that surpass the comparable s but then they become less convenient to carry. There are much smaller saps that are tear drops and very light. These pack less impact but all of them are more than enough to knock you out.
@@systemacanada please show those small saps. I am looking for an edc so they should be rather small. Also I think they are illegal in my country, they are called "death batter". So the less it looks like one the better. I think this is the best self-defense tool to carry, in my case anyways. I don't want to stab or shoot someone, repercussions could be bad. Batons are not practical to carry, even though I love my Tonfa. Right now I carry a monkey fist in my jacket and a small flashlight in my bag, also a small knife. I think knockout power is the most important, would be great if it could be hidden inside an harmless looking small object. Thank you for your video
Спасибо.
Nice presentation 👍👍
Thanks for watching.
@@systemacanada You're welcome sir. I am a sap maker and because of that your video was very interesting to me.
@@yu7rup that’s amazing. The world needs good sap makers. It’s a lost art form.
@@systemacanada Thanks!
Bottom line is police agencies didn't stop issuing these because they weren't effective. They stopped issuing them because they were too effective.
Exactly.
Why oh why does everybody pick on bob ?
I have family and friends who have used these in police work many years ago. They said these were quite a bit more effective than a baton minus reach especially against people amped up on drugs. The sap would almost always stop an assault once used correctly. Now, due to snow flake policies, police are no longer permitted and these are pretty much illegal in most states for anyone to carry. This is ridiculous and you can carry a gun but not a blackjack or sap?!!? ...WTH?!? I love these things and have several different types. I carry different ones depending on dress and situation. Practice with these is also key. Power is not required, speed and surprise are the key! Also, go for any joint: elbow, wrist, hand or collar bone (as demonstrated)..it will break bones! A head shot is not always required to stop an action.
Agreed. They’re really incredible.
Do you practice with them on a heavybag? Will it cause permanent damage to the bag?
@@Traps510 it scuffs the leather like hitting with a stick or whip would.
@@Traps510 On most heavy bags, it will not cause a problem. I have an everlast bag and practice on it. It does no damage besides scuffing up a little bit but its not bad. Just remeber if you really like the device you are using, and love the look of it, it will get wear damage as a result of practicing with it! So use a device you don't mind beating up.
@@tntshuffle-9799 Roger tbat. DO you prefer the sap or the blackjack more?
Ive previously done absolutely incredible things with a small tac flashlight. I own a blackjack i dont carry. Train at home. Bob home gym. I am still undecided. Short or long blackjack slapper? What do i prefer? Dunno.7 inch or 11 inch? Ive got great elbows and headbutts. Ive used. Can make some good drills.
Palm sap. I never trained with one. Curious.
The full palm slap is incredible if you like open hands. I just a new longer sap I will film a review for. Just beautiful. I also love a flashlight
@@systemacanada Thank you. This stuff is my passion. Trained my whole life. Had to buy hundreds of knives and learn how to use them. Libre. Kali . Silat....JUST TO DISCOVER.....non lethal is better. Avoidance. Stay out of jail. Becoming a master of body language....reading the right books.
@@JasonPatrick-tj4xj fully agree. I took the same path.
Wow - that guy really wanted to knock you out by hitting you on the back of the head. I probably would have stopped the sparring session after the second time I got hit behind my helmet…
He had very good control., it just happens anytime you push the pressure . That’s why I was wearing the helmet and not a student. Still a great helmet. I would have been split open otherwise.
How are these as a protection device for not very strong women against attackers? slapper vs pepper pray vs baseball bat vs taser? (Excluding pew pews)
They still require skill. You need to be able to function in close quarters . So while I love them . They wouldn’t be my first suggestion. Pepper spray or taser requires less skill to use but paper spray always carries a risk of getting cross contamination . If we’re talking home defense however. I suggest baseball bat in fact I normally suggest a smaller t-ball bat for men or women just because they’re easier to manipulate on tight hallways and close spaces.
@@systemacanada back spray is my concern w pepperspray especially outside. I keep meaning to get an aluminum bat (heard that was better than wood) and / or a taser.
@@nicolemcat1422 yes cross contamination is a huge problem.
Well, sold me. Where can I get one?
I would look for local sap makers. Do you live in the US?
I do yes. I found a couple sap makers but no adverts for blackjacks.@@systemacanada
Going to the gym. Lock in sock. Steel water bottle with clip caribeenar lanyard
Yep that will do the job.
6.09 why would you rather use the sap or black jack than stab someone.
Stabbing is likely to get you an excessive force charge. In most areas of the world it’s always regarded as lethal force. With a blackjack an argument can be made you were only trying to stun. A single blackjack hit can immediately stub or knockout . A single stab is less likely to completely stop someone in most cases unless you’re hitting the brain. Stabs usually take time to fully shut someone down and during that time the subject can be dangerously functional.
Perfect! 👍
Thanks for watching.
Good video
Thanks for watching.
I wish I had one when I got jumped and robbed by 3big dudes, I held up alright Buti would've easily pummeled them with one of these.... if only I had one back then
Sorry to hear that .
They are a powerful equalizer.
do you ever whack your fingers what with it being so close to the palm
No it isn’t that flexible that recoil into the hand
I sort of meant that your fingers may accidentally hit the target when using those smaller flat saps.
@@jamesdiver2183 you could hit your hand I suppose just like when you use a knife. It’s important to keep your hand firmly closed as with any weapon in case the hand hits
Where can we buy one?
Where do you live?
@@systemacanada Commifornia
If someone is adept at parrying punches then having that is a recipe for a broken hand
It hurts even through a boxing glove.
I got a blackjack with an old police uniform. It had a pocket for it sewn into the pants
Amazing. Many modern pants still have the pocket but having it filled with ab antique blackjack is s an incredible bonus.
@@systemacanadaGood show,Thanks! I have a few antique blackjacks. I've gotten all of them at antique stores Usually from old cops. I also got a antique set of Nickel plated brass knuckles at an antique store
@@Travis-pv8vj very nice collection
What kind of sap would you recommend?
So model wise I prefer a flat beaver tail sap over a cylindrical blackjack. It offers more variability like slapping or cutting or even stabbing for a short jab. While I understand the desire to get small and portable I like something at least 8’inches long for length and weight. Now it depends on budget. The cheap Chinese variants at 30 bucks are ok but if you can find a hand crafted variation in your area there is no comparison. The leather, durability and fit tend to be much better. Where are you located ? Maybe I can refer someone near you who sells them .
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Their quality is incredible
Thank you i will check them out.
Have you any experience with boston leather? Why do you prefer 8inch or longer and not the short guys like the midget? Thank you for the great content. Im trying to find 1 of these for my disabled wife that has to stay home alone without me alot and a gun cant always be the fisrt option all mattering the distances involved
@@truebeliever8605 no I’ve never dealt with them. The shorter saps are fine too I just like a solid grip and as much weight behind it as possible. I typically carry this in the winter when being gloved and in a heavy jacket can make using a folder less comfortable and when carrying is easier. The short ones still pack a wallop there’s just a big difference in power with the heavier ones.
Saps or blackjacks what about monkey fist that you can make at home what do the viewers think I'm from Scotland whare everything illegal for self defence
They can work for sure.
Where can you get these in united Kingdom
I would start on a place like Facebook with the “saps and blackjacks” page and ask the same question. There are a lot of custom makers there.
This is silly. Anywhere you go where you think you may need to carry a sap you actually need to carry a pistol...and if you're going somewhere that you think you need to carry a pistol....you're making a wrong destination choice.
Not everyone lives in the US. In Canada, most of Europe or Australia for example, a makeshift sap is far more feasible than a gun. When I bounced I often carried a sap. A gun would never have been able to have a gun. Cops carried saps as a back up for years. So not sure what’s silly about it.
Cant really pressure test a blackjack with head protection
It’s more for timing and targeting. It’s about building confidence in the wielder. Even with protection you gain an appreciation for the power and naturally he’s not targeting my neck and elbows as he would in a real situation. It’s training, not blood sport. Believe me, there is pressure lol
@@systemacanada I do agree the blackjack is a nasty weapon. I was more saying it for the nay sayers who doubt its effects. They should volunteer to sample a smack with one for a real test. Great video
@@davefletch3063 agreed. Thanks for watching.
I’ve always liked using these in a clench. Hi fellow bouncers ;)
Absolutely.
I have a slapjack and blackjack. Very powerful non-lethal weapon. Instant knockout without minimal energy.... trust me
Agreed. Time tested and proven. Such a simple little tool. Thanks for watching.
@@systemacanada You are a very good martial artist. Very fluid. Not linear or lumpy in your strikes or movement. Fun to watch. Would not be fun to fight.
@@n.s4269 thanks for watching. That’s very kind.
"non-lethal weapon" actually that is a wrong term for it. In Germany they are illegal for being famous of cracking skulls and called club of death.
@@Gieszkanne anything can be lethal by that logic . A fork is lethal. Their intent is to knockout not kill.
intro volume: 11
mic volume: 2
Leather taboon
(M)ass X (V)elocity = (F)orce
Wrong, that's not the equation.
Mass and velocity are not equal, velocity is squared doing more damage.
Why bullets are so effective since they have alot of speed even if mass is low
Anyone who has ever held a real black jack wouldn't question its effectiveness. The first time I picked one up, I wondered how they didn't crack people heads open every time. There is no prohibition on carrying one in Missouri if you have you CCW
Agreed