I'm not sure the guy demoing fully appreciated just how much Nick's patch interventions helped this video land with its target audience. Liking what I'm seeing/hearing (thanks to Nick) for the money.
Just inexperience. He'll learn - for example to grab our attention at the start by pulling the keyboard off (instead of as an afterthought 10 minutes in) and by firing out some catchy riffs, sequences etc., rather than enthusing over a (dull) triangle wave.
@@Its303AcidBass totally different, where as Behringer are bringing passed synths with a few up dates, I think Donner are putting a very modern twist on synths that are inspired by older ones. But I will say this, if Behringer had Donner's set sequencer in their synths that would be special.
Nick is so good at what he does, man. This was a great demonstration for the power of truly understanding synthesis. He is a true master. A Synth Lord.
I freaking love my donner equipment! I've got the carbon fiber violin (I wish donner would do an update to these!!), hush-i guitar, B1, pedals, and the medo! I plan on getting the D1 and L1 in the near future for sure! Donner if you're listening the one product I haven't been hot on is the medo, I got it from the kickstarter and try to pick it up at least once a month but still find it frustrating most of the time, I think with a little software update it could become an absolute blast!
Looks and sounds really good. Some nice design touches. If I didn't already own the MS-1 I'd be very interested. Donner make some really nice affordable gear. The B1 is great. The D1 is a little pricey but an excellent drum machine/groovebox..
Eagerly awaiting their multi-timbral sample based Proteus 2000 style mega synth that uses this same magnetic attached mini keyboard. If only they could borrow the E-MU synth tech from creative like the z-plane filters.
It's great, love the concept too. If they release other synths, then you only need to buy the keybed once. I'd use this for jams with friends for sure.
@@Digiphex I like what Donner have done here though. It snaps together with magnets and powered through magnetic connectors. Much easier to separate the keyboard and synth than on a Boutique. I love your channel btw.
This dude kinda needed to just step aside and let Nick explore. Donner is pretty new at making synths so they get a pass for not having experts demoing their gear, but Nick clearly is the guy to sell your unit for you if you are lucky enough to have him stop by the booth. That's where you're gonna make sales lol
Apparently this guy, Gabriel De Leon, is a US based composer from Malaysia. It sounds like his stuff is more on the film soundtrack / classical composition end. So he's not a nobody but he's an odd choice to demo a monosynth. Maybe he was there for all the Donner stuff. They make a lot of gear aimed at every subset of musicians
Yeah, same idea as with my minibrute. Finding the right patch would take longer than just dialing it in on the fly. The advantage of having a very limited synth engine is that it's very limited, so it can only do a few sounds, and you'll take no time to program it. Where it falls down is with the "look we've invented a midikeyboard" clickety magnety gimmick. Just release it as a module. Low quality mini keybeds are, what, about three dollars on Temu these days? They'll probably perform better than this silly novelty thing as well.
I'm glad they're making more analogue synths as they genuinely seem to be better at it than (let's just say it ) Behringer. More intuitive & useful interfaces , particularly the wayyy easier sequencer. However I won't be getting this , I'm waiting for them to get to the, VITAL, 2 oscillator synths. Here's hoping I don't cave in and get a Behringer MS-5 while I'm waiting as I'm really confident Donner could eclipse it easily ... well, just by bringing their sequencer to the table for a start.
enthusiastic young team, i've seen them active on forums. nice hw, it's cool it's in 2 parts. but i think a polysynth would be more appealing, we have so many monos already
He's so nice that it's hard to be mean and point out how jank Donner is. I wish in the 80s Donner had been around to take the place of the Casio craze.
Donner, the other Behringer. 😂 so happy to see these little buggers offer budget minded creative folks an access point. Even as a midi controller with all those sliders??? Awesome 240 usd ??? I would skip there keyboard option. May release it is on the must buys.
The detachable keyboard is such a great idea. I like how Donner is actually doing some interesting things with something like this instead of just a boring clone with not much thought put into design.
If you had said 10 years ago that a cool Chinese company would have affordable and spicy 101 and 303 clones plus a drum sampler the PSSSSSHH response would have been large. Donner is kind of a cool brand. Now if they could just make their panels a bit more readable, that would be nice.
I'm glad that Donner came out with this. They already had the B1, which is a dirt cheap bass box, so they've got a good start on the REALLY budget end of the market. This product isn't for me, but the more companies making budget synths, the better.
System 1m is obviously much more feature rich, but this is around half the price of a used system 1m. Especially if you have to buy the 101 plug out for it. I’d also argue the L1 is more aesthetically pleasing and has a better interface, but that’s subjective. A better comparison imo would be the S1 since they are much closer in price and both exclusively 101 style synths.
Looks/function wise, this resembles a cross between the Superlative SB-1 and a Roland SH-01a. Seems pretty cool! I'm all for affordable, real analog SH-101 clones. Although, being a greedy guts, every time I see that Donner label it puts me in the mood for a big greasy kebab, lol.
@@nintenalex They’ve got a few minutes to pitch, the guy was showing what it can do. Some great features. Little time on sounds, hence Nick squeezed those sounds in for him. The original comment was was either clueless or troll. Both I suspect.
If Ableton had made a synth, this would have been the look and design style. Double octave Pulse and the custom Triangle addition is nice. Will check this out.
LOL, the guy thinks he knows what he's doing, but he doesn't know which celebrity he's dealing with either. Nick was right without going around proving himself a master and let the guy get into his own mistakes. Donner should have demonstrators who know how to demonstrate what they have in their hands and know who Nick Batt( the king of PWM) is or who know that they can find people who are experts in the subject at NAMM.
I'm gonna give credit to Donner. They take an old synth, add a few improvements and sticks it in their own design. That's basically what Behringer *should* do. OK, fine, with old designs that are impossible to find, like the Jupiter-8, cloning is fine. But they do it with modern designs as well, as it's intellectually lazy. Make it better. Stop ripping off other peoples styles. Donner is doing it right.
Plenty of Behringer "clones" have extra features compared to the originals. It's actually the older synths they add features to, because those have obvious places to improve. The place where they don't add features is when making a cheaper version of a currently produced design. And tbh I don't care about companies who sell overpriced analog gear getting fucked over. If Behringer can come and undercut you by 60%, your product was never worth the initial asking price, and it wasn't innovative.
Could you give me an example of those modern designs Behringer has been cloning? Because other than their Keystep clone (which, get over it, is just a compact 37 key usb midi keyboard.) I can't think of an actual modern synth they've cloned and released in the same kind of design. Crave, Edge and Model15 may clone the overpriced Moog products built from slapping some old favourite Moog modules together, but they definitely look starkly different. Other than those three, which Behringer clone of a current synth have they been offering? Because all the others I know are clones of classic instruments that have long since had their day in the sun.
@@gladtobeangry He might be talking about the Prophet 5, because it's currently in production, and Behringer is coming out with a clone. But I side with Behringer on this - it's nice to have something similar to the real thing, but for far less money.
@ That's a reissue though, of the original Prophet 5. Not a new design at all, one of the iconic polysynths of the 1980s. There's a lot of gripes to have with Behringer, but to me it would make a lot more sense to address those gripes instead of inventing crimes they patently do not commit, and parroting them on the internet without actually checking if what people are parroting makes any sense whatsoever.
Had my eye on this for a while. All these new features, mixed with the classic sound, and they still don’t implement patch memory! Felt like an own-goal on the Behringer MS-1, and it’s an own goal here too. No one wants to be the photographing / writing down every slider position every time you get a cool sound. Would be interesting to hear from Donner the decision process to leave it out.
get the Roland S-1. It has all the sound of the 101, as well as preset memories, and pretty cool effects as well (reverb and delay) and for a price which makes it an impulse buy :) Allowing a synth like the SH-101 to save presets requires a complete rebuild of the synth, You need to be able to digitally control all the elements, so you can read the values of all the parameters. It would come at the cost of some of the analogness of the synth, but you would be able to save the presets. It'd also make it more expensive.
I'm not sure the guy demoing fully appreciated just how much Nick's patch interventions helped this video land with its target audience. Liking what I'm seeing/hearing (thanks to Nick) for the money.
Fully appreciate it? He seemed annoyed. "Are we happy with that patch?"
This guy was obviously hyper-focused on his bullet point delivery. 😅
@@TheDoctorM0 Except he kept being like "oh I forgot to mention"
Just inexperience. He'll learn - for example to grab our attention at the start by pulling the keyboard off (instead of as an afterthought 10 minutes in) and by firing out some catchy riffs, sequences etc., rather than enthusing over a (dull) triangle wave.
maybe for legal reason ....
I love how Nick effortlessly tweaks patches with one hand to dial in those perfect SH - 101 sounds we're all after
Donner should sell a version with a robotic Nick hand so when you create something bad, it automatically tweak sliders for you
Yeah like an automaton! Wind it up, and he's good for a week!
This is the company to look out for in the years to come
Them and Stylophone. Both are slowly getting into more complex instruments.
I have one of their digital pianos and it's sound really good and the keybed feels nice.
The next Behringer
@@Its303AcidBass totally different, where as Behringer are bringing passed synths with a few up dates, I think Donner are putting a very modern twist on synths that are inspired by older ones.
But I will say this, if Behringer had Donner's set sequencer in their synths that would be special.
@@b00ts4ndc4tsthe sequencer in the b1 is why I picked it over the behringer acid synth even tho Uli's has a fatter sound. In a mix it does the job
love the moment where you are handling the camera and patching the 101/L1 at the same time. classy
Gabriel one of the best musician in Malaysia !! So good to see him in NAMM !😮
What does he play? Seems out of his depth with synths…
Going to buy ten of these and have a Donner Party! Give people something to chew on.
😂
Literally LOL. Clever.
A Donner Party with only L1s? Without their analog bass synth, it wouldn’t B-1! 😅 This comment has dark ambient vibes…
Donner are like the normcore of the synth world and i kinda like it
Nick goes Yaaaay by the PW modulation. Classic! 😂 5:20
Is this the MS-1 clone, we've all been waiting for?
It’s like a game where you have to describe an SH 101 without saying it 😂
Nick, you are a godsend!
While I am not in the market for this unit, I am absolutely stoked that it exists!
this is what I am most excited for at this years NAMM. Cant wait for it to be released!
Nick is so good at what he does, man. This was a great demonstration for the power of truly understanding synthesis. He is a true master. A Synth Lord.
Donner is really getting serious now! 👍👍
Nick really safed this demo! 😁
PWM! That sparked Nick's interest!
@@BrianRandall-v8c That little “yay” cracked me up
Like the look of this, puts a cool spin on the 101
Another great video Nick!
Sounds great. Also nice to know I can play in perfect tune with the Prague Symphony Orchestra and save my entire setlist
Nick the PWM G.O.A.T. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This thing is a trip.
Great synth and really intresting price to!
well this is very nice sounding.
12:26 Thank you Nick
I love that Nick knows how to program the synth more than the kid demoing it!
I freaking love my donner equipment! I've got the carbon fiber violin (I wish donner would do an update to these!!), hush-i guitar, B1, pedals, and the medo!
I plan on getting the D1 and L1 in the near future for sure!
Donner if you're listening the one product I haven't been hot on is the medo, I got it from the kickstarter and try to pick it up at least once a month but still find it frustrating most of the time, I think with a little software update it could become an absolute blast!
Excellent video thanks. Good price and actually offering something new.
Nick (or Mr PWM sounds good at audio-rate too) made tha Juice 🫡 thx for the demo
Looks and sounds really good. Some nice design touches. If I didn't already own the MS-1 I'd be very interested. Donner make some really nice affordable gear. The B1 is great. The D1 is a little pricey but an excellent drum machine/groovebox..
The kid clearly needed some sound design help/hints... fortunately Nick has no problem to act when needed xD
SH-01a has presets and is 4 voice polyphonic.
I have never needed a 101 to be polyphonic.
@@loveisafisheye I've used the polyphonic mode on SH-01a and it's pretty glorious.
It's also digital
Sh-01a has wee little faders and is made for people from Lilliput.
@davidgoodwin8232 It’s also $150 more expensive.
Donner is not playing around. I love what I'm seeing here.
Eagerly awaiting their multi-timbral sample based Proteus 2000 style mega synth that uses this same magnetic attached mini keyboard. If only they could borrow the E-MU synth tech from creative like the z-plane filters.
It's great, love the concept too. If they release other synths, then you only need to buy the keybed once. I'd use this for jams with friends for sure.
I know midi keyboards are a cool concept, but they were invented in the early 1980s.
Like Roland Boutique series.
@@Digiphex I like what Donner have done here though. It snaps together with magnets and powered through magnetic connectors. Much easier to separate the keyboard and synth than on a Boutique. I love your channel btw.
Nice, would fit well with my B1
The Donner synth? Not one for winter road trips...😄😋
Sounds quite authentic, not a fan of that shinny black plastic - finger print magnet :-(
Plastic that is a magnet , interesting
The files are inside the computer?
damn, there are now 47 ways to get that SH-101 sound. But the external audio input is pretty interesting.
Loool and the Behringer don’t have the input ?
@@ChromosomeSyndicate I don't know the answer to that. I have an original SH-101 so I haven't been shopping the competition.
AWESOME
for live musicians - doesn't have patch memory?
For some live musicians this is a boon, if your type of live revolves around the very particular sound of this type of synth
No patch memory makes it a deal breaker (sigh) for me. Can it be added later as part of a firmware upgrade?
There’s not that many sounds in a 101, the whole point is that you play the whole interface.
@@hollywood4834 makes sense
@@stanleyb3671 get a Roland SH01a sounds just like a 101 and has patch memories. it can also be a 4 voice poly and very similar sounding to a Juno 60
Velocity out and filter cv in? I hope so because I do that all the time with a 101
This dude kinda needed to just step aside and let Nick explore. Donner is pretty new at making synths so they get a pass for not having experts demoing their gear, but Nick clearly is the guy to sell your unit for you if you are lucky enough to have him stop by the booth. That's where you're gonna make sales lol
Apparently this guy, Gabriel De Leon, is a US based composer from Malaysia.
It sounds like his stuff is more on the film soundtrack / classical composition end. So he's not a nobody but he's an odd choice to demo a monosynth. Maybe he was there for all the Donner stuff. They make a lot of gear aimed at every subset of musicians
Do we wait for Donner to deliver a 106 clone or do we wait for Behringers?
Wasn’t that the Deepmind? Their first synth.
@@mynewcolour I heard it can get very close to the 106 sound. The Neptune looks to be a 1:1 clone.
I take it no patch memory then?
This looks great and to everyone complaining about no patch since when has anyone had that or needed it on a 101? 😂
Who needs pacthes on a 101???
Hipsters need memory cause they don't remember more than 5 seconds like a goldfish
@ 😂😂😂😂
Since Roland SH-01a and it also has 4 voice polyphony.
Yeah, same idea as with my minibrute. Finding the right patch would take longer than just dialing it in on the fly. The advantage of having a very limited synth engine is that it's very limited, so it can only do a few sounds, and you'll take no time to program it. Where it falls down is with the "look we've invented a midikeyboard" clickety magnety gimmick. Just release it as a module. Low quality mini keybeds are, what, about three dollars on Temu these days? They'll probably perform better than this silly novelty thing as well.
Nick Tweak! 🖤
Did he demo the live input. I must of missed it? Went back but didn't see it?
I'm glad they're making more analogue synths as they genuinely seem to be better at it than (let's just say it ) Behringer. More intuitive & useful interfaces , particularly the wayyy easier sequencer. However I won't be getting this , I'm waiting for them to get to the, VITAL, 2 oscillator synths. Here's hoping I don't cave in and get a Behringer MS-5 while I'm waiting as I'm really confident Donner could eclipse it easily ... well, just by bringing their sequencer to the table for a start.
Thought its Andrew… waiting for the high five 😂
enthusiastic young team, i've seen them active on forums. nice hw, it's cool it's in 2 parts. but i think a polysynth would be more appealing, we have so many monos already
Pretty cool fo the money. Like if the MC-202 had an easy to program step sequencer :)
Does anyone know that synth in the intro doing the opera solo “La La La”?
Sonicstate did a vid with the creator th-cam.com/video/GE50PqTjlYs/w-d-xo.html
@ thank you for sharing the link… I will try to find the actual opera demonstration
Donner really need a demo guy who knows what he’s doing.
Thankfully Nick’s interventions saved that demo for them…
@@RichardOlpin Give the kid a break. He probably learned more from Nick than from years of school.
He's so nice that it's hard to be mean and point out how jank Donner is. I wish in the 80s Donner had been around to take the place of the Casio craze.
This guy demoing the synth, has he ever used a synth to make sounds before?
Wow. They invented a synth that talks 95% of the time - amazing! Wondering what the chances are that their next synth will cannibalize this one?
no patch memory? give me a break, it’s 2025 not 1976. I expect that with the Behringer clones (2600, Poly D), but otherwise it’s ridiculous
Donner, the other Behringer. 😂 so happy to see these little buggers offer budget minded creative folks an access point. Even as a midi controller with all those sliders??? Awesome 240 usd ??? I would skip there keyboard option. May release it is on the must buys.
The detachable keyboard is such a great idea. I like how Donner is actually doing some interesting things with something like this instead of just a boring clone with not much thought put into design.
@@surrealchemist- lots of people want clones. Lots of people want something different.
Everybody wins.
Do they do Kebab?
If you had said 10 years ago that a cool Chinese company would have affordable and spicy 101 and 303 clones plus a drum sampler the PSSSSSHH response would have been large. Donner is kind of a cool brand. Now if they could just make their panels a bit more readable, that would be nice.
oh it has magnet technology ? got it 😂😂😂
Does the Asiens "Donner" clone Behringer Clones???😅
been waiting for this one i thought you missed it!
also i gotta say gabriel is pretty cute
How much ?
They’re Behringering Behringer Behringering Roland!
5:17 Nick when hear PWM 😂
I'm glad that Donner came out with this. They already had the B1, which is a dirt cheap bass box, so they've got a good start on the REALLY budget end of the market. This product isn't for me, but the more companies making budget synths, the better.
Looks really cool, except for the Roland AIRA green leds! Hope they change the colour when it goes to production.
In this house, roland AIRA green leds are heroes!!!
I don't see how this is better than second hand system 1m
System 1m is obviously much more feature rich, but this is around half the price of a used system 1m. Especially if you have to buy the 101 plug out for it. I’d also argue the L1 is more aesthetically pleasing and has a better interface, but that’s subjective. A better comparison imo would be the S1 since they are much closer in price and both exclusively 101 style synths.
Is it digital or analogue?
Analogue.
5:17
- PWM mod
- Yeeey!!!
could slather a ton of garlic mayo and chilli sauce over this tasty Donner 🤣
It lives or dies on the dryness of that filter...
More competition is good.
Pretty cool!
All small form factor synths should have 2.5 octave keyboards as standard IMO
Looks/function wise, this resembles a cross between the Superlative SB-1 and a Roland SH-01a. Seems pretty cool! I'm all for affordable, real analog SH-101 clones. Although, being a greedy guts, every time I see that Donner label it puts me in the mood for a big greasy kebab, lol.
not hearing that curtis vco roland vcf sweetness of a real vintage 101 though
No patch save....argh
Isn’t that the true meaning of analog?😅
@@hermask815No. Not really.
It takes 3 seconds make any patch you can think of on an sh101
@@Dudderlyfullots of variables with 1 vco 😅
@@Dudderlyful any patch you can think of....that an SH101 could do. Which are about 9 patches.
It’s not easy when one is so young trying to demo a unit to Nik 🤪
Bat saved it in the Nik of time 🤪🤪
Donner... Keep innovating don't be another behringer
I saw the fingernail and had to order a durum before watching this
Yeah 😂 Big daddy’s hand swiftly showing where’s it at
Magnet Technology! 😂
❤
Does it run on batteries so you can carry it around? Unlike the MS101/MS1 with its 4 ft short wallwart cable?
A Tandy resurrection toy.
Thought that guy had three hands 😂😂😂
Do you not?
I'd buy one because it's not red 😂
Nice product
Wow, and for a great price too!....hmmmm 🧐
From the sounds I've heard in this video, SH-1T seems a more appropriate name for this thing
Nah, once Nick started fiddling it immediately sounded better. 😀
@@brunodelovegny It’s aimed at musicians
@@vaiman7777 seems a pretentious angle to go with, it should be able to do both areas.
@@nintenalex They’ve got a few minutes to pitch, the guy was showing what it can do. Some great features. Little time on sounds, hence Nick squeezed those sounds in for him.
The original comment was was either clueless or troll. Both I suspect.
If Ableton had made a synth, this would have been the look and design style. Double octave Pulse and the custom Triangle addition is nice. Will check this out.
Donner. The one synth company to watch. Look out Berringher..
Why? Are they planning on a Jupiter-32?
@@SPAZZOID100Why futz around with the voice proliferation when you can just jump straight to the Jupiter-Googolplex.
The Donner version of a Behringer version of a Donner version of a Behringer version.... etc let the The Clone Wars begin
LOL, the guy thinks he knows what he's doing, but he doesn't know which celebrity he's dealing with either.
Nick was right without going around proving himself a master and let the guy get into his own mistakes.
Donner should have demonstrators who know how to demonstrate what they have in their hands and know who Nick Batt( the king of PWM) is or who know that they can find people who are experts in the subject at NAMM.
I'm gonna give credit to Donner. They take an old synth, add a few improvements and sticks it in their own design. That's basically what Behringer *should* do. OK, fine, with old designs that are impossible to find, like the Jupiter-8, cloning is fine. But they do it with modern designs as well, as it's intellectually lazy. Make it better. Stop ripping off other peoples styles. Donner is doing it right.
Plenty of Behringer "clones" have extra features compared to the originals. It's actually the older synths they add features to, because those have obvious places to improve. The place where they don't add features is when making a cheaper version of a currently produced design. And tbh I don't care about companies who sell overpriced analog gear getting fucked over. If Behringer can come and undercut you by 60%, your product was never worth the initial asking price, and it wasn't innovative.
Could you give me an example of those modern designs Behringer has been cloning? Because other than their Keystep clone (which, get over it, is just a compact 37 key usb midi keyboard.) I can't think of an actual modern synth they've cloned and released in the same kind of design. Crave, Edge and Model15 may clone the overpriced Moog products built from slapping some old favourite Moog modules together, but they definitely look starkly different. Other than those three, which Behringer clone of a current synth have they been offering? Because all the others I know are clones of classic instruments that have long since had their day in the sun.
@@gladtobeangry He might be talking about the Prophet 5, because it's currently in production, and Behringer is coming out with a clone. But I side with Behringer on this - it's nice to have something similar to the real thing, but for far less money.
@ That's a reissue though, of the original Prophet 5. Not a new design at all, one of the iconic polysynths of the 1980s.
There's a lot of gripes to have with Behringer, but to me it would make a lot more sense to address those gripes instead of inventing crimes they patently do not commit, and parroting them on the internet without actually checking if what people are parroting makes any sense whatsoever.
Dude. Research and development ((which B avoids by aping design) easily adds to the cost, which B undercuts.
It has a PWM mod. Nick “reaaally?”
Had my eye on this for a while. All these new features, mixed with the classic sound, and they still don’t implement patch memory! Felt like an own-goal on the Behringer MS-1, and it’s an own goal here too. No one wants to be the photographing / writing down every slider position every time you get a cool sound. Would be interesting to hear from Donner the decision process to leave it out.
get the Roland S-1. It has all the sound of the 101, as well as preset memories, and pretty cool effects as well (reverb and delay) and for a price which makes it an impulse buy :)
Allowing a synth like the SH-101 to save presets requires a complete rebuild of the synth, You need to be able to digitally control all the elements, so you can read the values of all the parameters. It would come at the cost of some of the analogness of the synth, but you would be able to save the presets. It'd also make it more expensive.
That’s a good price , but like someone else said , lose the shiny plastic , it’s ugly and scratches . Looks decent though