Either way would work. We leave her on that frame until we come back four days later and then pull the excluders. At that time the grafting frame will have plenty of larvae of the proper age. We know which ones to use because the larvae less than 12 hours old won't have much royal jelly.
I rewatch videos from a couple years ago, gleaning what I can. Usually a rainy day or sleepless night activity. Love your stops on the fence of your radial arm saw!! My first job was in my brother in laws cabinet shop. Heck of an operation you running over there and it gives all us sideliners goals to shoot for! Thank you for all you share with the community.
I purchased two of these recently and I can't say enough about the quality of these boxes. If you're looking for a timing box these are simply the best.
I so needed this video today, perfect timing and it confirms what I was considering doing. I just did not know how to build this style of box, greatly appreciate you sharing this knowledge! Thank you
We were in your shop a few weeks ago and I also bought one. I rarely graft over 30-40 in one sitting, but it would definitely save hunting and pecking for the small ones. I can drop a drawn comb in the brood nest, but this is better, especially if we decide to expand. Thanks for sharing as always! :D
Thank you Bob, I will have to make some for next year because we will be grafting a lot. This year wasnt so bad because growth was smaller. went 24 to 100+ hives this year next year plan is to hit 500 and that will be from grafting and maybe will get a few Queens from you being you have went CAUC more or less. All my Queens are Cauc/carnie and want to try and keep it that way. They seem to winter in this brutal cold better then Italians. Stay safe Sir and best of luck
@@bobbinnie9872 Hello Bob, For years i have kept around 20 to 25 up here. This year threw me a bad loop but turned out good because of a friend. Because of a car wreck i couldnt for awhile take care of them but a Farm owner friend stepped in to help. In that he ended up wanting to start a BEE side to his farm like IAN. So now my hives are there and have turned into me doing mentorship to him and now crew of 11 and some others in area who wanted to learn more. He has the money, Land and people to do it i just had the BEEs and the know how. It is called get the supplies and grow with the BEES and that is whats being done. Take care and ty
Bob thank you for another great tutorial. I really like the details of the construction and how you introduce the queen. BTW that queen was huge, it seemed to be twice as long as the worker bees :)
Hey Bob, if you cut your walls that extra 3/8" or whatever height distance you like between the bottom bars and the hive floor, and cut you entrance into one end wall, you can nail / glue your hive floor right on to the bottom of the box and eliminate making up that bottom board that your gonna end up nailing on to the bottom anyway. I went to 8 frame boxes a few years back and build most all of my own equipment. There are very few hives left here now where the bottom box and the bottom board are two separate pieces. I got tired of picking up that bottom box to move it somewhere and the bottom board come off and bust my toes.....or worse trip me. Glad to see that shingle thing is leaving you alone now....bless you.
Bob, I just called to try to order from your shop a couple of timing boxes.... I heard maybe later in the year you'll be selling them. I want a couple, they don't need to be assembled. I actually have my own little woodworking shop and can put them together. I can actually make them myself... along with other woodenware. But I want a couple that you guys made. So I will call later in the year. I want them unassembled, and it sounds silly, but I want you to sign one of them. Thanks, Charley. Tucson AZ.
Really nice build could sell those .. One of my main breeding queens flew down to my friends house Saturday. Caught her 3 years ago in swarm trap. Saturday was nuc pickup day and was hot a humid. By the time i transfered 75 nucs into transport boxes and marked each queen had bee frenzy going on. Must of triggered swarming with all the bees in the air .. Had her go and about half of cell starter next to her swarm off .. Good news friend wants me to manage her hives so she stops losing them every fall. So i can still graft off her. Maybe ill just trade her new queen
Tight bond 2 use to have a blue duck on the lable that said waterproof... Then they released tight bond 3 and the tight bond 2 lable changed.. I built cabinets for 30 yrs and used tight bond 2 for years for exterior projects
Yes, we use a frame that has a few seasons on it because it's easier to graft from and we also put it over a colony beforehand to let them clean it up.
Thanks for the instruction on this, Bob. I plan to build some of these for my operation and some for Ian too, see if Carrie likes this system. All the best to you and yours! (I love that big DeWalt RAS! Is that a 14"?)
Hello Bee Man. It may take a time or two to get used to it but I think you and Carrie would like it because there isn't any searching around for the right age larvae. That's a 12 inch which works great because it will crosscut up to 17 inches.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thanks! I bought a 12" Craftsman RAS which is a beautiful saw but I can't get it set up to cut that wide. I'd love to be able to cut my covers which are 16 5/8" but I am not sure I can achieve that. That DeWalt is a real beauty!
@@ThatBeeMan I know you're a tool man from your videos so I think you'll appreciate this. That saw was purchased new by a construction company in Atlanta, Georgia in 1948 and was set up in their small shop for occasional, random projects. I bought it from a man that worked there when he was young and bought the saw from the widow of the first owner in 1968 strictly for sentimental reasons because he was the one who always used it. He said he used it only a few times after he bought it and when I got it two years ago it was sitting in his basement covered in many years of dust. It works just like new and I feel lucky to have it. I'll keep it for the rest of my life.
@@bobbinnie9872 What a great story! It's rare to find something like that in such pristine condition. Thanks for sharing that story with me. Maybe you've seen it but I think you'd enjoy this video. 7.5 HP DeWalt RASs with up to 24" blades, and not a carbide tooth in sight! th-cam.com/video/HiGH0Qsu3ak/w-d-xo.html Brad
@@ThatBeeMan I was looking through the comments to see if Ian had seen this idea yet, but even better, you will bring him one, and maybe a smoker too? Lol
Hi Bob, about a year ago, I recall you had a nice video discusing various queen types and you mentioned a lady's name on the west coast (perhaps Oregon) who breeds Karnia queens and you ordered a very expensive one to experiment with. I wonder if you made any video later on about that experiment. Thanks
Bob thank you so much for your instructions! I played this numerous times and wrote down all measurements and steps. I've made one before but this is definitely an improvement. Also watched your videos with Chris Werner which verified a lot of your process. One question, Do you have a video showing more of your box jig bench at 6:35? I can see the back side but not the front. I need something like this that's workbench height.
Is there any reason you couldn't cut down two metal excluders (if you have the proper tools) and use those to isolate the queen? It seems like that would be very dimensionaly stable and I have some old wood bound ones that the wood is shot and could be used for this purpose.
I like this design, it is versatile and simple. Hey Bob, do you know of any beekeepers in the Glendale Oregon area? North of GP or south of Roseburg? I am driving semi for A&M out of Glendale and don't have a place or time for my own hives, but I am itching to get my hands on some bees since I have the time to watch you and Ian, and I want to be able to lock in some of what I am learning. I had a few hives in the Bay Area years ago, self taught from The Hive and the Honey Bee mostly lol, but I am just learning so much from you guys that I want to be able to at least occasionally be able to handle bees again, so that when I decide to get off the road, I will be ready to dive in. If you still know anyone out here, a reference would be great, and the closer it is to the Yard the better! I am happy to be useful in exchange for access, and I might even take some of my never used time off if I have something interesting to do! I actually asked the owner if I could put a couple of hives at the yard, but he wasn't excited by the idea... lol I have been keeping my eyes open and haven't spotted any hives the area yet. My ideal would be to find someone who has some hives in the garden that they just don't work with anymore, that's how I got started long ago, but I haven't gotten lucky yet!
Hi Ben. I haven't lived in Oregon for a very long time and don't know anyone out there any more. Knocking on doors is tough but eventually it pays off. Good luck, Bob
Love the videos and Teachings I am learning lots from your vids....I am a Hobbyist and been practicing making my own Queens..I have done the walk away, (which isnt 100%...Played with Nicot system But have trouble grabing queen to place her in the little open casset...and a month ago tried Grafting eggs...I also like to run 5 frame boxes....Do you think this 5 frame time box will work? I understand the issolation part...I will have a QE ontop the first box than the time box with QE issolating queen on the frame..ontop that is another QE...going to give it a ride in late june....building the 2nd box now...thanks again
Bob, Scott here from California, thank you for Timing box. Talked with your team this morning. Can you text me how you set yours up? If you have time… Lol Thanks again.
Somewhat unrelated. What would be your approach if found a hive during the flow where something had happened to the queen a week prior and the workers plugged the brood box with honey. I replaced with a mated queen. Will they move the honey up to the super? Or would you remove those brood frames and replace them with foundation? I don’t have any drawn brood frames.
I would just let them work through it out as the new queen begins to expand the brood nest, as long as you have empty space above so they don't continue to plug out.
@@bobbinnie9872 that’s awesome. I’ve never thought about it until I read your comment, but do foragers bring back nectar and feed the brood (or give to nurse bees to feed brood) or do the foragers store everything, and the nurse bees remove it from the cells and feed?
@@BohemiaBees Interesting thought. You may have problems unless they are separated by more than an excluder. When I occasionally end up with a two queen hive it seems like I have better luck maintaining the two separate brood nests if they are apart. First an excluder above the bottom, then a super or two and then another excluder and the other brood nest on top with another entrance. When they are stacked one on top of the other with only one excluder between it seems like one queen disappears more often. I have to admit though, I have not run a lot of two queen systems and my observations are just casual.
Thanks for the video Bob! Going to make one of these soon. Do you still have those bottom boards for sell? I bought one from you last year and love it.
Hi Jeremy. Yes, we still have some but if you're thinking of driving over you should call the store first to make sure they didn't suddenly sell them all.
Find yourself a local sawmill. The bandsaw guys are very affordable. 350/500 for 1000 bft all cut to a tru 1x10. Often much cleaner than store bought lumber. I calculated it at about 5$ per box material cost
great, like always! :-) Bob, do you have any informations on restricting the egg laying capacity of the breeding queen? lets say from this 1300-1500 a day down to maybe 300-400 over the grafting period, guess that could change the larva quality... (I`m grafting alot this year..., and maybe sometimes I start to see little ghosts running inside those cells...) :-)
Brother Adam talks about this in his book "Beekeeping at Buckfast Abbey". He was convinced that restricting egg laying resulted in higher quality eggs and increased the life of the queen. We try to keep our breeder queen colonies down to a size that will maintain about three or four frames of brood.
Ha Bob I really enjoyed this video it was great but they are ways are. Have u ever thought about making these and selling them it is a beautiful box I bet u can sell a lot of them and I would be your first custermer Thanks again for the video it was great have a good week
Titebond 3 is marketed as being waterproof, whereas Titebond 2 is marketed as water resistant, so I would have thought Titebond 3 would be better for humid locations like bottom boards. Does your experience with titebond contradict that?
Our casual observation is that we've had better luck with Titebond 2 in exterior situations. Perhaps it's our building materials, I don't know for sure why. It's just our experience.
@@bobbinnie9872 thanks Bob. I’ve had good luck with both but haven’t tried either in a humid environment. I’ve also found PL premium construction adhesive good for all kinds of things
Hi Bob, can I buy one of those from you personally? Would appreciate that. I can call, and pay for shipping of full set up. ThankYou. I will take what ever you can make even it’s just scrap. Thank you.
I built one of these (spent hours making sure it was nice and tight ) carefully found her (the queen) and put her inside with about a frame of bees shook into the same area .. waiting 4 days and opened it up to not a single egg 😡 some how she got out 🤯
We do, but we are currently sold out. We need to make more. We made a bunch last winter and they sold much quicker than expected. We will be making more this coming winter. If you are interested call our store at 706 782 6722 and ask for Molly. She can let you know when more become available.
We use a good oil base primer which I feel "grips" the wood better than latex and then apply two coats of acrylic latex enamel which seems to hold up well for us.
We haven't yet but because of the interest generated by this video we will be making some to sell this winter. If still interested contact our store in mid winter. 706 782 6722. Thanks.
Mr. Binnie, have you by chance used any blades besides a dado blade for cutting the 1/4 inch groove? I am working on building some of these boxes and I was curious if it is possible to use something other than a dado blade? I appreciate any suggestions you might have. Thank you sir!
I'm a newer beekeeper and have some questions regarding rearing just a few queens less than 10 this year but I currently only have 7 colonies and currently have a failing queen can I get your email
So she gets turned loose into the hive for the other 6 days of the week? Or u just pull the masonite framed excluders and have that frame marked?
Either way would work. We leave her on that frame until we come back four days later and then pull the excluders. At that time the grafting frame will have plenty of larvae of the proper age. We know which ones to use because the larvae less than 12 hours old won't have much royal jelly.
@@bobbinnie9872 Ahhhh...I understand now. Thx. I might be slow on the draw but I do learn eventually.
@@bobbinnie9872 Please sell these!
I rewatch videos from a couple years ago, gleaning what I can. Usually a rainy day or sleepless night activity. Love your stops on the fence of your radial arm saw!! My first job was in my brother in laws cabinet shop. Heck of an operation you running over there and it gives all us sideliners goals to shoot for! Thank you for all you share with the community.
Bob, your employees are very lucky to get to learn from you and learn from your experience and ideas!
I keep telling them that, LOL
This is great information! Thank you so much for all of the hard work you do to provide us this valuable information!
I gotta say, I love watching Bob in his second element. He has a passion for tinkering and woodworking is another craft of his.
I purchased two of these recently and I can't say enough about the quality of these boxes. If you're looking for a timing box these are simply the best.
Great video Bob. You are getting good at answering predictable questions. 😊
Practice, practice.🙂
Bobs timing box is a fantastic piece of equipment that really does make it much easier to make great queens! Well done Bob and crew!
I so needed this video today, perfect timing and it confirms what I was considering doing. I just did not know how to build this style of box, greatly appreciate you sharing this knowledge! Thank you
We were in your shop a few weeks ago and I also bought one. I rarely graft over 30-40 in one sitting, but it would definitely save hunting and pecking for the small ones. I can drop a drawn comb in the brood nest, but this is better, especially if we decide to expand. Thanks for sharing as always! :D
I used a timing box this year for are queen grafting. worked like butter on bread. Loved it. Thank you for sharing with us. Fowlerville Michigan
Bob continues to amaze me with his knowledge. I be willing to bet he's forgot more then the average person knows. I'm one of his biggest fans.
Awesome video Bob! Thanks for sharing. Bout ready to make another trip to see you in July!
Thanks so much for this lesson! Your years of expertise are so valuable to all of us!!
I love your sense of quality and precision.
Great Video, Bob! Thank You for taking the time to make this! This really explains the timing box construction! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
Thanks for taking the guess work out of the larvae age. nice work, Mister Binnie.
Thanks for the videos and all the information you provide.
Thanks Bob for another great idea.
Gorgeous box, very elegant solution...now just to find that queen! lol
Thank you Bob, I will have to make some for next year because we will be grafting a lot. This year wasnt so bad because growth was smaller. went 24 to 100+ hives this year next year plan is to hit 500 and that will be from grafting and maybe will get a few Queens from you being you have went CAUC more or less. All my Queens are Cauc/carnie and want to try and keep it that way. They seem to winter in this brutal cold better then Italians. Stay safe Sir and best of luck
Hi Matthew. It sounds like you're moving fast. Enjoy the ride.
@@bobbinnie9872 Hello Bob, For years i have kept around 20 to 25 up here. This year threw me a bad loop but turned out good because of a friend. Because of a car wreck i couldnt for awhile take care of them but a Farm owner friend stepped in to help. In that he ended up wanting to start a BEE side to his farm like IAN. So now my hives are there and have turned into me doing mentorship to him and now crew of 11 and some others in area who wanted to learn more. He has the money, Land and people to do it i just had the BEEs and the know how. It is called get the supplies and grow with the BEES and that is whats being done. Take care and ty
Bob thank you for another great tutorial. I really like the details of the construction and how you introduce the queen.
BTW that queen was huge, it seemed to be twice as long as the worker bees :)
I like your idea of the timing boxes!
Me thinks you might be a professional beekeeper. LOL Thanks for sharing. This is really good information.
Thanks.
That’s a really nice setup.
Hey Bob, if you cut your walls that extra 3/8" or whatever height distance you like between the bottom bars and the hive floor, and cut you entrance into one end wall, you can nail / glue your hive floor right on to the bottom of the box and eliminate making up that bottom board that your gonna end up nailing on to the bottom anyway. I went to 8 frame boxes a few years back and build most all of my own equipment. There are very few hives left here now where the bottom box and the bottom board are two separate pieces. I got tired of picking up that bottom box to move it somewhere and the bottom board come off and bust my toes.....or worse trip me. Glad to see that shingle thing is leaving you alone now....bless you.
nice carpentry skills ,your helper will retain a wealth of knowledge ,
I'm lucky to have the employees I do. They pick things up easily.
Bob, I just called to try to order from your shop a couple of timing boxes.... I heard maybe later in the year you'll be selling them. I want a couple, they don't need to be assembled. I actually have my own little woodworking shop and can put them together. I can actually make them myself... along with other woodenware. But I want a couple that you guys made. So I will call later in the year. I want them unassembled, and it sounds silly, but I want you to sign one of them. Thanks, Charley. Tucson AZ.
So basically you want to copy his boxes , you could just make your own in your workshop with out copying , it’s not that hard.
Great! I will definitely make a couple for the upcoming season 👍🏻😃
I really enjoy your videos. Your voice is relaxing. I bet you are good at training animals too
Awesome.. really cool work .. yes stack those nurse bees in there .. beautiful!
Thank you it has given me some ideas for my hives 🐝🐝
Thanks for tip on the glue types, I'm using type 3 but now will use the 2 also
Great man give us great idea, Good 👍job sir
From Algeria
thanks for the information.
Really nice build could sell those .. One of my main breeding queens flew down to my friends house Saturday. Caught her 3 years ago in swarm trap. Saturday was nuc pickup day and was hot a humid. By the time i transfered 75 nucs into transport boxes and marked each queen had bee frenzy going on. Must of triggered swarming with all the bees in the air .. Had her go and about half of cell starter next to her swarm off .. Good news friend wants me to manage her hives so she stops losing them every fall. So i can still graft off her. Maybe ill just trade her new queen
I love your video you hellp me and my grandpa in beekiping in malta it is difficult to raise colonies of bees becausn there aren a lot of flowers
Great video like always. 👍🏻👍🏻
I would like to try that method to get the right age of larva Because I use a different one to breed queens. Thanks for the kind of information.
Better Bee now has a cage you can put a deep frames in so it's surrounded by a QE.
Tight bond 2 use to have a blue duck on the lable that said waterproof... Then they released tight bond 3 and the tight bond 2 lable changed..
I built cabinets for 30 yrs and used tight bond 2 for years for exterior projects
Hey Bob, any way we could get a closer look at those assembly benches? Thanks!
I'll try to include them in a future video. They're very simple. Anything with square corners helps.
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Is the frame of drawn comb older and cleaned by bees before placing in timing box? Thanks for the great videos.
Yes, we use a frame that has a few seasons on it because it's easier to graft from and we also put it over a colony beforehand to let them clean it up.
Thanks for the instruction on this, Bob. I plan to build some of these for my operation and some for Ian too, see if Carrie likes this system. All the best to you and yours! (I love that big DeWalt RAS! Is that a 14"?)
Hello Bee Man. It may take a time or two to get used to it but I think you and Carrie would like it because there isn't any searching around for the right age larvae. That's a 12 inch which works great because it will crosscut up to 17 inches.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thanks! I bought a 12" Craftsman RAS which is a beautiful saw but I can't get it set up to cut that wide. I'd love to be able to cut my covers which are 16 5/8" but I am not sure I can achieve that. That DeWalt is a real beauty!
@@ThatBeeMan I know you're a tool man from your videos so I think you'll appreciate this. That saw was purchased new by a construction company in Atlanta, Georgia in 1948 and was set up in their small shop for occasional, random projects. I bought it from a man that worked there when he was young and bought the saw from the widow of the first owner in 1968 strictly for sentimental reasons because he was the one who always used it. He said he used it only a few times after he bought it and when I got it two years ago it was sitting in his basement covered in many years of dust. It works just like new and I feel lucky to have it. I'll keep it for the rest of my life.
@@bobbinnie9872 What a great story! It's rare to find something like that in such pristine condition. Thanks for sharing that story with me. Maybe you've seen it but I think you'd enjoy this video. 7.5 HP DeWalt RASs with up to 24" blades, and not a carbide tooth in sight! th-cam.com/video/HiGH0Qsu3ak/w-d-xo.html
Brad
@@ThatBeeMan I was looking through the comments to see if Ian had seen this idea yet, but even better, you will bring him one, and maybe a smoker too? Lol
Hi Bob, about a year ago, I recall you had a nice video discusing various queen types and you mentioned a lady's name on the west coast (perhaps Oregon) who breeds Karnia queens and you ordered a very expensive one to experiment with. I wonder if you made any video later on about that experiment. Thanks
sue cobey ...
She has several videos...
I think this is who you are asking about.
@@bamabeesqueens Thanks
Bob thank you so much for your instructions! I played this numerous times and wrote down all measurements and steps. I've made one before but this is definitely an improvement. Also watched your videos with Chris Werner which verified a lot of your process.
One question, Do you have a video showing more of your box jig bench at 6:35? I can see the back side but not the front. I need something like this that's workbench height.
Hi Bruce. The "December" video coming out Sunday will have a closer shot.
Is there any reason you couldn't cut down two metal excluders (if you have the proper tools) and use those to isolate the queen? It seems like that would be very dimensionaly stable and I have some old wood bound ones that the wood is shot and could be used for this purpose.
Metal excluders would work fine if you can keep the edges intact.
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Nice work
Bob do you sell causian queens at all? If so when? thanks
We are starting in early May for pick up only. To order call our store at 706 782 6722.
très belle réalisation ,merci pour cette vidéo
Thank you.
I like this design, it is versatile and simple.
Hey Bob, do you know of any beekeepers in the Glendale Oregon area? North of GP or south of Roseburg?
I am driving semi for A&M out of Glendale and don't have a place or time for my own hives, but I am itching to get my hands on some bees since I have the time to watch you and Ian, and I want to be able to lock in some of what I am learning.
I had a few hives in the Bay Area years ago, self taught from The Hive and the Honey Bee mostly lol, but I am just learning so much from you guys that I want to be able to at least occasionally be able to handle bees again, so that when I decide to get off the road, I will be ready to dive in.
If you still know anyone out here, a reference would be great, and the closer it is to the Yard the better!
I am happy to be useful in exchange for access, and I might even take some of my never used time off if I have something interesting to do!
I actually asked the owner if I could put a couple of hives at the yard, but he wasn't excited by the idea... lol
I have been keeping my eyes open and haven't spotted any hives the area yet.
My ideal would be to find someone who has some hives in the garden that they just don't work with anymore, that's how I got started long ago, but I haven't gotten lucky yet!
Hi Ben. I haven't lived in Oregon for a very long time and don't know anyone out there any more. Knocking on doors is tough but eventually it pays off.
Good luck, Bob
great video Bob , i was wondering what Queen marking pen you prefer ?
We use "Competitive Advantage MPD-15" www.amazon.com/Competitive-Advantage-Enamel-Marker-MPD-15/dp/B088F6BZ4V
Thank you very much.
Love the videos and Teachings I am learning lots from your vids....I am a Hobbyist and been practicing making my own Queens..I have done the walk away, (which isnt 100%...Played with Nicot system But have trouble grabing queen to place her in the little open casset...and a month ago tried Grafting eggs...I also like to run 5 frame boxes....Do you think this 5 frame time box will work? I understand the issolation part...I will have a QE ontop the first box than the time box with QE issolating queen on the frame..ontop that is another QE...going to give it a ride in late june....building the 2nd box now...thanks again
I think a five frame timing box will work fine.
Bob, Scott here from California, thank you for Timing box. Talked with your team this morning. Can you text me how you set yours up? If you have time… Lol Thanks again.
Hi Scott. Email at BobBinnie19@gmail.com when you receive the box.
🐝🐝🐝 👍 The best insulation.
Somewhat unrelated. What would be your approach if found a hive during the flow where something had happened to the queen a week prior and the workers plugged the brood box with honey.
I replaced with a mated queen.
Will they move the honey up to the super? Or would you remove those brood frames and replace them with foundation? I don’t have any drawn brood frames.
I would just let them work through it out as the new queen begins to expand the brood nest, as long as you have empty space above so they don't continue to plug out.
Empty space for honey. They will usually expand the area for the queen to lay as they use the food present and also move it up if they feel the need.
@@bobbinnie9872 that’s awesome. I’ve never thought about it until I read your comment, but do foragers bring back nectar and feed the brood (or give to nurse bees to feed brood) or do the foragers store everything, and the nurse bees remove it from the cells and feed?
Could you put more than one queen in a box if you separate them with excluders?
It may work but I wouldn't risk a valuable breeder queen doing it.
I was thinking of using it as a type of mating nuc but not worrying about restocking nucs. More of a shared resource mating nuc? Random thought.
@@BohemiaBees Interesting thought. You may have problems unless they are separated by more than an excluder. When I occasionally end up with a two queen hive it seems like I have better luck maintaining the two separate brood nests if they are apart. First an excluder above the bottom, then a super or two and then another excluder and the other brood nest on top with another entrance. When they are stacked one on top of the other with only one excluder between it seems like one queen disappears more often. I have to admit though, I have not run a lot of two queen systems and my observations are just casual.
Thanks for your thoughts and insight
Thanks for the video Bob! Going to make one of these soon. Do you still have those bottom boards for sell? I bought one from you last year and love it.
Hi Jeremy. Yes, we still have some but if you're thinking of driving over you should call the store first to make sure they didn't suddenly sell them all.
@@bobbinnie9872 Okay thanks!
Bob, if you use exclusively medium equipment, would you still use a four day window or a three.
I would do the same thing with medium equipment that I do with deep equipment.
Bob, great video....I'm banging out a cpl of these. Do you think Masonite board wld work in place of luan?
Yes, masonite works and if you can somehow dip it in melted wax it will be less likely to warp and will be stronger.
@@bobbinnie9872 ok great. I dip my boxes, so it shouldn't be an issue
Find yourself a local sawmill. The bandsaw guys are very affordable. 350/500 for 1000 bft all cut to a tru 1x10. Often much cleaner than store bought lumber. I calculated it at about 5$ per box material cost
Thank you for another great video.
Out of curiosity, how long will it take for her to lay up an intire frame?
Thank you
There are about 3500 cells on each side of a frame and an average queen may lay 1500 per day but of coarse they rarely fill every cell on a frame.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you,
I have always heard the 1500 eggs/day number, was curious to what you where obsserving with the breeder queens.
great, like always! :-)
Bob, do you have any informations on restricting the egg laying capacity of the breeding queen? lets say from this 1300-1500 a day down to maybe 300-400 over the grafting period, guess that could change the larva quality...
(I`m grafting alot this year..., and maybe sometimes I start to see little ghosts running inside those cells...) :-)
Brother Adam talks about this in his book "Beekeeping at Buckfast Abbey". He was convinced that restricting egg laying resulted in higher quality eggs and increased the life of the queen. We try to keep our breeder queen colonies down to a size that will maintain about three or four frames of brood.
Yes, I have it from Brother Adam too.
Think your way of keeping her on 3-4 frames is a good way! many thanx
Ha Bob I really enjoyed this video it was great but they are ways are. Have u ever thought about making these and selling them it is a beautiful box I bet u can sell a lot of them and I would be your first custermer Thanks again for the video it was great have a good week
Hi Frances. I think I will build some this coming winter to sell.
@@bobbinnie9872 wonderful I would like to get one
Thinking about doing this with some of that cheese board. It seems like decent plywood.
Hi Andrew. We're liking the cheese board. I'm actually going to have Loyd pick up another load.
Awesome video thanks for sharing god bless
Thank you.
Hello and thank u for ur time. Why not push the frame to the wall and just use one groove and one piece of excluder
We have better luck with the grafting frame near the center of the cluster.
Bob, are these available to purchase fully made?
Yes, call our store at 706 782 6722.
Great idea 🍺🍺
Fantastic I want one
Hi Oscar.
Nice Dewalt RAS. What year? Great content by the way.
Thanks. 1948.
@@bobbinnie9872 nice. I have a 1954 GW1 and MBF. Your dust collection design is cool too.
Titebond 3 is marketed as being waterproof, whereas Titebond 2 is marketed as water resistant, so I would have thought Titebond 3 would be better for humid locations like bottom boards. Does your experience with titebond contradict that?
Our casual observation is that we've had better luck with Titebond 2 in exterior situations. Perhaps it's our building materials, I don't know for sure why. It's just our experience.
@@bobbinnie9872 thanks Bob. I’ve had good luck with both but haven’t tried either in a humid environment. I’ve also found PL premium construction adhesive good for all kinds of things
It sure would be nice if you were To finish the Florida beekeeper series.
Yes it would be nice 👌
He should finish what he started.
This other content to wait it would have been nice to keep the series in order
Bob do you sell these boxes?
We don't have any currently but will be making some this fall to sell. Contact me around November if you are still interested. Thanks.
Ok great! Ty
Hi Bob, can I buy one of those from you personally? Would appreciate that. I can call, and pay for shipping of full set up. ThankYou. I will take what ever you can make even it’s just scrap. Thank you.
Hi Scott. I've had many requests so I'm going to make some next winter. Contact me in November at bobbinnie19@gmail.com
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you Sir, will do.
It would be wonderful how to make double screen board just like this episode, how to make grafting timing box....
Hi Bob thanks for this Video .
Can u help with a video with information how to prepare a bee hive for royal jelly extraction plz Replay. ❗❤
Sorry, I've never done that so I couldn't make a good video on it.
How do you keep the breeder queen colony from swarming since they have to stay in one box all the time?
We take brood and bees out on a regularly.
Hi Bob, you told me to contact you about making me a timing box I’d like to get one from you is it early still?
Hi Scott. We'll be making some this winter when beekeeping work is over.
I built one of these (spent hours making sure it was nice and tight ) carefully found her (the queen) and put her inside with about a frame of bees shook into the same area .. waiting 4 days and opened it up to not a single egg 😡 some how she got out 🤯
What stop system do you use?
www.mayaposi-stop.com/. This can also be seen in our video "Commercial Beekeeping Wood Shop". th-cam.com/video/qEfdQP6kl9w/w-d-xo.html
Bob Did u ever build these boxes to sell I still want 1
Hi Frances. Yes we did. They're made with cypress and HDO. Very nice. To order call the store at 706 782 6722 and ask for Marilyn. Thanks.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thanks I just ordered 1
Hello bob do you offer these queen isolation boxes for sale
We do, but we are currently sold out. We need to make more. We made a bunch last winter and they sold much quicker than expected. We will be making more this coming winter. If you are interested call our store at 706 782 6722 and ask for Molly. She can let you know when more become available.
What kind of paint do you use?
We use a good oil base primer which I feel "grips" the wood better than latex and then apply two coats of acrylic latex enamel which seems to hold up well for us.
@@bobbinnie9872 Always grateful? perhaps those brand names for all?
Sir Can feeding of sugar water is helpfull to increase the bee population
Yes. Feeding thin sucrose syrup stimulates brood rearing like a nectar flow.
Do you make those timing boxes to sell?
We haven't yet but because of the interest generated by this video we will be making some to sell this winter. If still interested contact our store in mid winter. 706 782 6722. Thanks.
@@bobbinnie9872 will do.
Can you make a video about the best queens for dsesez
That's a good idea on a subject that is highly subjective. I'm not sure I could do it justice but I will ponder who can. Thanks.
Sir you say that 3 queen leve in one box with this materd i cant adestend english but lettle
Only one queen. She is isolated on one frame to use as a grafting frame.
Mr. Binnie, have you by chance used any blades besides a dado blade for cutting the 1/4 inch groove? I am working on building some of these boxes and I was curious if it is possible to use something other than a dado blade? I appreciate any suggestions you might have. Thank you sir!
I have watched others stack two or three inexpensive skill saw blades together. Be careful to offset the teeth from opposing blades if you do this.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you, I appreciate your help!
I'm a newer beekeeper and have some questions regarding rearing just a few queens less than 10 this year but I currently only have 7 colonies and currently have a failing queen can I get your email
bobbinnie19@gmail.com
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