I couldn't never ever imagine myself being successful with no baggage/kids. Dealing with a man with a bunch of kids, babymommas, baggage, a liar and keep making me look like a fool.
The fact that she does not want to have kids with Joc shows she’s not as naive as she looks. The toxicity of the relationship is too much. She’s just in the relationship to try to prove she can be the one tame a man like Joc. Them men can’t be tamed sweetie leave them for the streets.
I would also say Joc is trying to prove something to himself as well. That he can attempt to be faithful and change. ..wouldn't say she should take all the weight
@tq231442 Kendra actually checks joc on the regular, but Karlie needs to stay out of it...Karlie is doing it out of jealousy and pettyness..it does not come from a genuine heart..so yes, Karlie needs to be called out, too.
Am I the only one that has no sympathy for Kendra ? Like this man showed her EXACTLY who he was and she chose to stay. She’s an attorney so why is Joc always able to talk his way out of things? Make it make sense. Being ignorant is a choice.
@@tmac7734 I'm mad that she's an attorney and we saw nothing in this marriage planning process concerning a prenup. When she brought it up...he kinda talked his way outta it
No, my sympathy jump out the window the momentshe started bragging about her ring to Karlie and acting like she won, cuz at that moment I realized that she's one of those "as long as I'm the one he comes back to/I'm the one that got the ring". At this point she well aware of what she put herself into and she likes to be in that situation.
So basically this is just another case of a good black woman dating down. He’s using her to “level up”, meanwhile she’s “leveling down.” He thinks being with a woman that has it together is going to somehow make him mature and not look like the gigolo joke he is. Meanwhile he’s going to embarrass the hell out her and make her look like a fool.
But the thing is that she was actively being told about his behavior and she still chose to marry him? Like I don’t understand how Kendra could be so naive?
Exactly, And this is why I laugh at women that have the I could change him mentality. Like girl, Rather you change him or not. What's the point of wasting your time to see
I’ve never seen a woman wanna get married and attach herself to heartbreak and embarrassment so bad 🥴 all the red flags started waving before she married this man yet still she kept going ahead SMH
Y’all need to learn, “pick-me’s” and “as long as he comes home” women come in all shapes, sizes, colors, with degrees, careers, and their lives together. Just because someone looks to have their life together, doesn’t mean they’re not apart of the desperado club. 😩🤷🏻♀️
The realest person to ever speak to Kendra has to definitely be Jocs best friend at the wedding with the Gucci suit. If a man tells me at my own wedding his friend is for the streets, thats all I gotta hear.✌🏾😅
@@brtitneymissick6610how you’re going to represent authority and decide on peoples life if you don’t have a bit of common sense. I her what you mean but she seems like the kind of person to be overlooking red flags and be driven by emotions. I wouldn’t want her to be judging my case.
@@brtitneymissick6610 What she chooses to do professionally has a lot to do with her personal life. She has bad judgement in her private life which means she shouldn't go forth and judge people professionally... Where is she today? On love and Hip hop!
Kirk was very disrespectful to bring up Karlie & Joc's sexcapades in front of Kendra. I'm not surprised tho. Kirk doesn't respect his own relationship, so why would he respect Joc & Kendra's? Karlie was disrespectful towards Kendra as well. On various occasions! Karlie was pressed & jealous of Kendra 😂 and Kendra had to reprimand Joc for his behavior one too many times for me! It's like she was raising an overgrown child smh
Yeah, I don't care what anyone says. Getting a side baby is a game changer. I could kinda see taking a man back after cheating but there's nothing that should make a woman want to stay after a side baby or an std is brought. Like I honestly don't see how women could work on their relationship after that
Yup, Kendra has all the power in that relationship. She makes all the decisions and Joc won't say no to her because he's guilty for the past or present cheating.
Kendra thought she was Barbara the Builder. Men are not houses, you can't fix a broken man. You can't even build a solid home without a good foundation.
I like Kendra, she’s a mature woman, I like her energy, however I can no longer feel bad for the women who settle for this sort of foolishness. Settling for the bare minimum will create the standard that you now live by. No one is perfect but everything is a choice. No excuses for joc’s behavior but that’s what she’s choosing.
People are only as intelligent as the people they surround themselves with. Look at all the women in her circle, which one of them has a faithful intelligent man. Joc doesn't even practice safe sex. He's reckless with his penis, sexual health, and his soul.
We have ALL DONE some dumb ass shit concerning that Good Good 😜 and knew betterr and didnt do a damn thang STOP THE FAKE SHIT , at the time was like yall just dont understand 😂😂😂
She a very accomplished criminal and immigration attorney. More than enough men in her field who are intelligently equal to her AND will respect her. Ladies, please open your options or you will settle for dust
Watching this hurts my heart smh. How do you ignore that he hasn't made your relationship public and still choose to move forward with buying a home + investing in businesses together? HOW?! Ladies, we really do need to want better for ourselves. This aint it.
@@diamcole Yeees girl you are absolutely right. He’s been dealing with her for all those years and was a secret. He continued to cheat. He did this whole marriage thing to shut her up. She had me feeling bad once they got married and then the story leaked about joc having a baby but she knew that this whole time smh Kendra set herself up for a lifetime of heartache
I think he wanted to keep her a secret because he was being so publicly messy and didn't want the Joc he is with her to cross over into the dirt he does in the streets. He would not have had to hide her if he just stopped being messy and ridiculous.
How a woman that’s soo accomplished decides to entertain a man with 9kids at that time and multiple baby mommas is beyond me!!!! She married him with his now 10lids so I guess it is what it is but that’s crazy! She don’t have no kids and he has 10🥴wow!
1Corinthians 13:4-8 New International Version 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. 1 CORINTHIANS 13:13
Kendra is so beautiful and an intelligent, passionate, big-hearted boss woman! She deserves a man that is going to cherish her and treat her with respect and integrity, not just for her, but for himself!
Kendra had so many red flags before they got married. He showed her who he was over and over again. She will break her own heart by ignoring the red flags. She might be one of those women who stay with the man to prove a point while he is out making her look foolish.
Joc is the perfect example of believing the mess in your life is caused by what woman you have in your life. And not vice versa. Cuz even with Kendra he’s being the same Joc. Until he starts being accountable for his actions and changes himself, it won’t matter who is in his life.
I love how you said that cheatingmony! Your right Kendra knows he hasn't changed! Just because a man gets married doesn't mean he's changed..I'm not saying all men are like that I just saying that some are just like Joc!
@@monicastone3988 yeap. Kendra won't ever leave so long as Joc keeps his shenigans undercover so that she doesn't get publicly embarrassed. That's why she got mad about the baby news getting out. She knows she married a man who has issues with being faithful.
They might as well have an open marriage but this man wouldn't be able to handle it if she was getting her swerve on she don't have kids and this man has a thousand kids and a new I wouldn't be able do it
It’s the cheatingmony for me! I’m gonna add that to my dictionary. I don’t understand why a woman of Kendra’s caliber would let herself get mixed up with Joc.
It’s the cheatingmony for me! I’m gonna add that to my dictionary. I don’t understand why a woman of Kendra’s caliber would let herself get mixed up with Joc.
Kendra signed up for everything she has and is about to go through. Don't blame anyone for your own lack or self discipline and true understanding of detachments.
@@jrose1999 its plenty of men in ATL, who's educated like herself, she thinks she can change him but in the end she'll lose like all the rest of the women who tried.. Speaking from experience!
This headline needs to be "we need to talk" she always have to pull him to the side to address him with something someone said, yet she still went and married him. I wish them both good luck.
Cause she wanted to prove Joc was her man at the engagement party versus at the wedding she had since realized Karlie was still a threat and didn't want her at the wedding
I think she’s going to get pregnant and he’s going to get tired of her and leave. I think he wants to “humble” her and f up her life by being a single mother.
Everyone acted like that proposal was so romantic and it made me cringe. She was upset and didn't want to see him. Hell they weren't even really together and she was going through it emotionally only for him to pull the biggest stunt he could think of just to get her back. The moment he got on one knee it's like she forgot all the hurt.
I notice with Joc... whenever he has an opportunity to publicly deny something he claims he didn't do, he just laughs it off, and finesses his way out of the situation, behind closed doors. Doing that not only makes him look guilty, but it offers no protection, or security for the woman he claims he loves.
Karlie is so disrespectful to joc and Kendra's relationship especially when they went at the cabin, just because her and mo wasn't at one she choose to make everyone relationship a mess.
No degrees, education or career can erase the pathology of a person’s upbringing. This poor young lady probably witnessed all of the women in her life deal with men who ain’t shit since she was a child. Black women must not only better themselves in education and business, but MUST undo the bad relationship pathologies from their mothers, sisters, grandmothers, aunts and cousins, as the mindset had to be changed.
Rasheed must have been her voice of reason when it came to her making decisions. This is just sad at this point. He was still being reckless by having unprotected sex and has another baby during him and Kendra’s supposedly “break.”
TRUE. I wouldn’t have been able to marry him. Because having unprotected sex means either you weren’t planning on us getting back together or you just don’t give damn about me.
And that's just the unprotected sex she found out about and only because a baby came from that situation. Who knows where else he put that thing with no condom on.
So he did have another baby with another girl in the new episodes it keep coming up. But it's the girl meda meina idk how to spell her name she got the baby
True that. Now that they can watch the show and see how Stupid and Naive she Truly is.... Who Wants an Attorney like That. .... Where is Kevin Samuels you need him.... oh yea.... 😔RIP KS RIP.... he would've said "your degrees mean nothing! and You chose him" "you knew who he was so why are you complaining now Modern Woman!?"
Ugh I hate that she made herself look so goofy by messing with this man and trying to take him serious - all those babymamas would’ve been a dealbreaker for me smh 😭😭
Damn they just got married not to long ago. Please tell me how y’all already need a break tho😂😂☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️😂😂😂. Ain’t no breaks, ain’t no separation. We staying together or divorcing- I don’t do the in between stuff.
What does Joc provide as a partner? Take money out of it he has multiple children with different woman, emotionally immature and cannot be faithful. Ladies, let’s take people at face value instead of the potential you think they might be one day.
I feel like Kendra wanted to be in a marriage where she could be the one in control. So she chose Joc as a fixer up project. But little did she know, when you see smoke, there's fire. But I think some of us need to be burned in order to understand that.
She may be a real woman be he is far from a real man ! She needs a real man to match her and her lifestyle he is not it, but that’s something she’ll have to figure out herself… You live and you learn, don’t down talk her.
This relationship is tragic ! It reminds me of my old self. When I was an Attorney in training I met a real ROADMAN … of course I didn’t know this I was just out having fun and met him he was charming, kind and fascinated that I had it all together and wasn’t like girls in his “world”. The thing is even though you know right from wrong you end up falling for the person (yikes!) I did just that my life spiraled and I’d go to work tired from partying 5-6 nights a week. I wasn’t my usual self. I even found out he does drugs and wasn’t mad, yet I was the type that would NEVER. I however drew the line at marriage - somehow I knew in my heart of hearts that I should never make such a huge commitment so easily / hastily. I knew who I was dealing with and wasn’t gonna do it forever. So I quietly disconnected my heart and left him and booooy am I doing a 1000 times better I’m an attorney now which he didn’t get to experience with a great job and credit and I hear he’s still for the streets with a baby on the way ! PS one time he suspected I was pregnant he made me take contraception and watched me to make sure I took it! It wasn’t even about me because I had a lot of good going on for me but he was afraid to be a dad and still for the streets. Need I mention most of his fellow drug using friends have children with autism (yeah their using is that bad). We black woke women Don’t need to ever bounce back like Ciara ! We can choose to do better from the start but maybe we need the experience to fully appreciate what’s good. Also the entire relationship I was the money maker and spender even though he could afford it he was just bummy about everything
Jock does not deserve Kendra, but I will say this, if you choose to be with someone, be with them. Don’t listen to everybody that has an opinion about your significant other. Kendra knew who Joc was when she got with him. She need to stop listening to women who would be with Joc in a heartbeat.
Kendra is a true Black Queen!! We all have some kind of flaw everyone is not perfect. And I know for a fact a lot of people are looking and wanting love.
All that you stated is in fact true. I love Kendra but she should have kept wanting and should have kept looking because he definitely wasn’t good for her heart and definitely not great for her career. She worked to hard for that career to be letting him taint it.
Ladies, as a man. We're only going to do to you what you allow US to do until you check us about it. Joc have been the same since day 1 being on the show. She wants the entitlement so badly just so she can say I'm a WIFE.
I know he did NOT just act like having her name tat'd there means something. He still cheated!! I don't really watch this show or reality shows in general so can yall tell me if he cheated before, during, or after they got married & what happened with the chick who said she has been with him on & off from 2008-2019ish??? One thing I've always refused to do was take an ex back. Always remember they're an ex for a reason! Cheating is most def a deal breaker for me as well because it's a choice. I can't stand when ppl say cheating is a mistake because it isn't. One of my old female friends said I won't ever be in a relationship because of how fast I am to end things & I don't tolerate nonsense meanwhile she stayed with a guy for years who cheated etc & they got married a few years ago... sooo just to say I have a man I have to go through all of that?! Absolutely not. I don't want to settle & to whoever is reading this man/woman you shouldn't either. Time is something we can't get back so don't waste it or allow anyone else to.
This show teaches me that it don't matter how rich, successful or educated these women are, they will let toxic dude make fools of them NUMEROUS times. They all sad( except spice so far)
Not attractive, baggage, bunch of kids and a cheater. What do she see in him🤔 Even if he was attractive he still shouldn't get a pass. Joc got too much going on.
I like kendra but she made a big mistake marrying him . He has a lot of baggage and is never gonna stop cheating . I feel bad for her cus I’m sure she really feels that he’s gonna change but he’s not .
I couldn't never ever imagine myself being successful with no baggage/kids.
Dealing with a man with a bunch of kids, babymommas, baggage, a liar and keep making me look like a fool.
Same smh
Right. She is self inflicting her pain by still dealing with him after the red flags.
@@livinglife6345 This is a perfect comment. Because her being in this relationship is a *choice*
She 10000%% can do better but I understand once you love someone it’s hard to walk away 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
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Take a shot for every time Kendra says “We need to talk”
You trying to give us alcohol poisoning 😹
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm drunk and I still have 12 minutes to go.
And I'm drunk and dying of alcohol poisoning 🤣
"We needa tawk" 😂
I'm about to dieeeeeeee 😂 😂 why did I try thissssssss uggggh
The fact that she does not want to have kids with Joc shows she’s not as naive as she looks. The toxicity of the relationship is too much. She’s just in the relationship to try to prove she can be the one tame a man like Joc. Them men can’t be tamed sweetie leave them for the streets.
Facts. I am glad she doesn’t want to have a child with him. She can divorce him but having a child with him is 18+ years with him.
He got several kids, I wouldn't want any with him
Nah it’s not that she just don’t want o be baby mama #6
I would also say Joc is trying to prove something to himself as well. That he can attempt to be faithful and change. ..wouldn't say she should take all the weight
She's pathetic like most women and puts her worth on having a man or not. And he found a woman who will pay his child support.
Karlie is known to be messy, but not known to be a liar.
FACTS!!
I still think Karlie lied about fucking Pooh and her man
@tq231442 Kendra actually checks joc on the regular, but Karlie needs to stay out of it...Karlie is doing it out of jealousy and pettyness..it does not come from a genuine heart..so yes, Karlie needs to be called out, too.
she is lol
Facts
Am I the only one that has no sympathy for Kendra ? Like this man showed her EXACTLY who he was and she chose to stay. She’s an attorney so why is Joc always able to talk his way out of things? Make it make sense. Being ignorant is a choice.
I love when we hold women accountable. ❤
Exactly 💯
Facts how is Kendra an attorney and such a poor judge of character
@@tmac7734 I'm mad that she's an attorney and we saw nothing in this marriage planning process concerning a prenup. When she brought it up...he kinda talked his way outta it
No, my sympathy jump out the window the momentshe started bragging about her ring to Karlie and acting like she won, cuz at that moment I realized that she's one of those "as long as I'm the one he comes back to/I'm the one that got the ring".
At this point she well aware of what she put herself into and she likes to be in that situation.
So basically this is just another case of a good black woman dating down. He’s using her to “level up”, meanwhile she’s “leveling down.” He thinks being with a woman that has it together is going to somehow make him mature and not look like the gigolo joke he is. Meanwhile he’s going to embarrass the hell out her and make her look like a fool.
But the thing is that she was actively being told about his behavior and she still chose to marry him? Like I don’t understand how Kendra could be so naive?
@@thatbeaatcch9884 Idk some people can't be better tbh.
Idky “gigolo joke” is sending me🤣 accurate tho
Exactly, And this is why I laugh at women that have the I could change him mentality. Like girl, Rather you change him or not. What's the point of wasting your time to see
Correct!
It's funny how Karlie said that Joc got a boring woman and how he must've been tired of the "thotianas" considering she's one of those "thotianas".
Lol I was thinking the same thing. Including her 🤣
I agree is she serious 🤣
Exactly! She is the President of the club!
Did she ever marry that dude? While she sitting up here with her weird obsession over Joc.
And popping out of a cake for him😂
Joc is who he is, and, is always gonna be. He tried.
Kendra has to want better, FOR HERSELF.
It doesn't matter how the audience feels.
Exactly
Sis you damn right. Joc has proven time and time again he ain’t gonna change
And Monday’s episode prove it
Exactly!!!
All of this!!!!
Kendra is proof you can be broken and educated all at the same time
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@Tracey Dumase Banda Exactly 💯
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bw can get all the degrees in the world, they never get educated om the bum ways of blk men.
I’ve never seen a woman wanna get married and attach herself to heartbreak and embarrassment so bad 🥴 all the red flags started waving before she married this man yet still she kept going ahead SMH
Some people don't want to accept defeat, too much pride 🤷🏽♀️
Strange. And then she lied to The Bams and Erica to kinda save face, cried and everything, 2 scenes later I lied, they were concerned for her.
Make me wonder if is to be in the show!!
Sad case frfr
"That part" Heartbreak and embarrassment. So anything happens she deserve everything she gets.
Y’all need to learn, “pick-me’s” and “as long as he comes home” women come in all shapes, sizes, colors, with degrees, careers, and their lives together. Just because someone looks to have their life together, doesn’t mean they’re not apart of the desperado club. 😩🤷🏻♀️
Whew, you preaching🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 amen sis. You told the whole truth.
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That mf gone come home that shit
“The desperado club.” ⚰️💀
Somebody dial 911. I have died.
She’s a pick me at it’s finest. She’d literally be better off alone, I doubt Joc adds much value to her life.
The realest person to ever speak to Kendra has to definitely be Jocs best friend at the wedding with the Gucci suit. If a man tells me at my own wedding his friend is for the streets, thats all I gotta hear.✌🏾😅
Kountry Wayne is a comedian 🤣🤣
@@keeksm0617 and he came out to be right during that “Joke”
The fact she is going to be a Judge yet has horrible judgement in men makes me cringe....
Her professional life with love doesn't have anything to do with her career. If it was so she wouldn't be where she is today.
@@brtitneymissick6610how you’re going to represent authority and decide on peoples life if you don’t have a bit of common sense. I her what you mean but she seems like the kind of person to be overlooking red flags and be driven by emotions. I wouldn’t want her to be judging my case.
I wouldn't let Kendra Judge a talent show, let alone and criminal case
@@brtitneymissick6610 What she chooses to do professionally has a lot to do with her personal life. She has bad judgement in her private life which means she shouldn't go forth and judge people professionally... Where is she today? On love and Hip hop!
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Kirk was very disrespectful to bring up Karlie & Joc's sexcapades in front of Kendra. I'm not surprised tho. Kirk doesn't respect his own relationship, so why would he respect Joc & Kendra's? Karlie was disrespectful towards Kendra as well. On various occasions! Karlie was pressed & jealous of Kendra 😂 and Kendra had to reprimand Joc for his behavior one too many times for me! It's like she was raising an overgrown child smh
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Karlie is a hater!!, like a real life hater. And Kirk has no class at all .
CLOCK IT,but if Joe would’ve brought up Jazmine everyone would have been mad tho right?
Joc*
Proposing/accepting a proposal when you’re in the middle of conflict, so much so that you don’t even want to be around the person, is… WILD.
💯 I was over here like ikyfl.. 😭
Very wild
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kendra seem like the type of girl tht gets married to a guy just to say she’s married 🥴 knowing the whole marriage is going to b hell 🫤
Sad but true
Omg yes !
She’s to dam successful and smart to be with someone like Joc to be honest
She's book smart but not street smart, he'll continue to do her wrong and she'll make excuses for him, another Rasheeda..🤷🏽♀
That part. I noticwd this is a lot of highly educated BW, sadly. 🤦🏾♀️
@@BellJ213 opposites attract
Yeah, I don't care what anyone says. Getting a side baby is a game changer. I could kinda see taking a man back after cheating but there's nothing that should make a woman want to stay after a side baby or an std is brought. Like I honestly don't see how women could work on their relationship after that
@@Jasmiyn123 The fact he got another girl pregnant whether it was on a break or not shows how reckless he is with his peen
@@georgia8592 You think. He has 8 kids that we know of. I like Joc and I pray he do right by her...
Kendra's reaction during the proposal was sooo precious, i really want the best for her
He wants a woman that’s going to be “in-charge” of him like a mother, not a wife. Once he feels too tamed, he ventures out. They need to split up.
Yup, Kendra has all the power in that relationship. She makes all the decisions and Joc won't say no to her because he's guilty for the past or present cheating.
Who wants to raise a man? Send him home.
karlie: we’re like family now
kendra: i mean thts a stretch
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Karlie is so fake SMH
Lol 😂
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Safe to say Kendra won’t be becoming a judge anytime soon 😂
Why wat happened
No, SHE WILL. This is what drives HER.
It takes time . She's a lawyer. Most lawyers takes time. Just like teachers before they become principals takes time..
She’ll be a judge as long as she stays in Atlanta.
If I was intelligent enough to become an attorney- I definitely wouldn’t be dating someone like Joc and then appearing on a tv show like this
Y'all took a 'break' & he got another baby. Girl run! 🏃🏾♀️
And do not look back. Lol
The biggest reason not to go back🙅🏾♀️🙅🏾♀️🙅🏾♀️
do not pass go, do not collect $200
Kendra thought she was Barbara the Builder. Men are not houses, you can't fix a broken man. You can't even build a solid home without a good foundation.
I like Kendra, she’s a mature woman, I like her energy, however I can no longer feel bad for the women who settle for this sort of foolishness.
Settling for the bare minimum will create the standard that you now live by. No one is perfect but everything is a choice. No excuses for joc’s behavior but that’s what she’s choosing.
People are only as intelligent as the people they surround themselves with. Look at all the women in her circle, which one of them has a faithful intelligent man. Joc doesn't even practice safe sex. He's reckless with his penis, sexual health, and his soul.
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ABSOLUTELY JUST SETTLING FOR THE NEXT NOT BEST THING
We have ALL DONE some dumb ass shit concerning that Good Good 😜 and knew betterr and didnt do a damn thang STOP THE FAKE SHIT , at the time was like yall just dont understand 😂😂😂
If she is settling, how is THAT mature?
Seem like the whole timeline is about him f**king up and saying sorry🤣🤨
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And people are still trying to blame other people for his actions and or making excuses
@@thatbeaatcch9884 Exactly 💯
And her saying “we need to talk”! Lol
@@kishalashawn5542 Yep 🤣 d@mn shame
She a very accomplished criminal and immigration attorney. More than enough men in her field who are intelligently equal to her AND will respect her. Ladies, please open your options or you will settle for dust
Women love drama period..good guys are boring and routine ish
Relistate business
she’s insecure
@@jamesroberts1810 my husband isn’t boring. I definitely break routine. I’m entertaining enough for both of us. We stay at home and have fun.
She loves the pookie and ray rays
It bothers me that she is basically begging him to take her places. Red flag 🚩 that he don’t want you to come girl
Watching this hurts my heart smh. How do you ignore that he hasn't made your relationship public and still choose to move forward with buying a home + investing in businesses together? HOW?! Ladies, we really do need to want better for ourselves. This aint it.
Right…. Sounds like they are more of business partners.
@@livinglife6345 Nah, sounds like he'd been lying from jump and she should have seen his desire for secrecy for what it was.
@@diamcole Yeees girl you are absolutely right. He’s been dealing with her for all those years and was a secret. He continued to cheat. He did this whole marriage thing to shut her up. She had me feeling bad once they got married and then the story leaked about joc having a baby but she knew that this whole time smh Kendra set herself up for a lifetime of heartache
I think he wanted to keep her a secret because he was being so publicly messy and didn't want the Joc he is with her to cross over into the dirt he does in the streets. He would not have had to hide her if he just stopped being messy and ridiculous.
Kendra girl....Godspeed.
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Yes, because the way to solve an argument about infidelity, is to say “Don’t worry about it” and propose…
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How a woman that’s soo accomplished decides to entertain a man with 9kids at that time and multiple baby mommas is beyond me!!!! She married him with his now 10lids so I guess it is what it is but that’s crazy! She don’t have no kids and he has 10🥴wow!
When most of us enter our 30s, especially the late 30s, all common sense goes out the window. We settle for less.
@Fee I
@Fee I didn't know he had 10 kids. I thought it was just 4.
@@tracieross9928 He had 4 baby mothers. He had 2 kids with each woman. Now we got this “break baby”. 💀
That's what I said.
Kirk is an instigator!! 🤣🤣🤣 the way Joc turned and said "Kirk..." I watched that 5 times. 😭😂
😆 🤣 😂
He so happy it wasn’t him 😂
Rasheeda needs to come and get her twin sister. She’s out here letting the human equivalency of a Citi Trends do her dirty.
now sis y u got me chokin 😂
Girl I- 😂😂😂😂 not Rasheeda’s twin sister.
Wicked💀
👀 😆 🤣 😂
Right 🤣
It's like Sina said, Kendra is a nice person, just not someone Joc deserves.
Love cannot be this traumatizing 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
😂😂😂 fr
Very exhausting
That’s because none of this is love, it’s lust and ignorance.
Fr
1Corinthians 13:4-8
New International Version
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
1 CORINTHIANS 13:13
Kendra is so beautiful and an intelligent, passionate, big-hearted boss woman! She deserves a man that is going to cherish her and treat her with respect and integrity, not just for her, but for himself!
Kendra had so many red flags before they got married. He showed her who he was over and over again. She will break her own heart by ignoring the red flags. She might be one of those women who stay with the man to prove a point while he is out making her look foolish.
soooo many red flags were displayed!
Joc is the perfect example of believing the mess in your life is caused by what woman you have in your life. And not vice versa. Cuz even with Kendra he’s being the same Joc. Until he starts being accountable for his actions and changes himself, it won’t matter who is in his life.
Joc will never truly change and Kendra knows that. Leave the girl to enjoy her Holy Cheatingmony.
I love how you said that cheatingmony! Your right Kendra knows he hasn't changed! Just because a man gets married doesn't mean he's changed..I'm not saying all men are like that I just saying that some are just like Joc!
@@monicastone3988 yeap. Kendra won't ever leave so long as Joc keeps his shenigans undercover so that she doesn't get publicly embarrassed. That's why she got mad about the baby news getting out. She knows she married a man who has issues with being faithful.
They might as well have an open marriage but this man wouldn't be able to handle it if she was getting her swerve on she don't have kids and this man has a thousand kids and a new I wouldn't be able do it
It’s the cheatingmony for me! I’m gonna add that to my dictionary. I don’t understand why a woman of Kendra’s caliber would let herself get mixed up with Joc.
It’s the cheatingmony for me! I’m gonna add that to my dictionary. I don’t understand why a woman of Kendra’s caliber would let herself get mixed up with Joc.
Accepting a ring after back to back to back infidelity is crazyyyyyyy
Kendra signed up for everything she has and is about to go through. Don't blame anyone for your own lack or self discipline and true understanding of detachments.
Exactly
You can’t blame her for her low self esteem
@@jrose1999 its plenty of men in ATL, who's educated like herself, she thinks she can change him but in the end she'll lose like all the rest of the women who tried.. Speaking from experience!
@J ROSE yes, u can. She could have stayed single. Went to counseling and work on that. Instead she latched on to community peen
Facts!
Kendra has no real reason to stay with him. I think she thinks she can fix him.
Right. It’s embarrassing & he’s not even cute
Exactly
Facts!!!!!!
All mighty dollar
Or for clout...fame etc
This headline needs to be "we need to talk" she always have to pull him to the side to address him with something someone said, yet she still went and married him. I wish them both good luck.
It's so funny how Kendra wanted to go to Karlie engagement party but Then didn't want Karlie at the wedding.😭🤣
Cause she wanted to prove Joc was her man at the engagement party versus at the wedding she had since realized Karlie was still a threat and didn't want her at the wedding
Kendra DID Want Karlie There Tho , Joc Said He Didnt Want Her There 😅
kendra is too good for joc and i wish she’d realize it. that proposal was a pure manipulation tactic and unfortunately she fell for it.
I think she’s going to get pregnant and he’s going to get tired of her and leave. I think he wants to “humble” her and f up her life by being a single mother.
@@marriejames01 smhh exactly, I hope that doesn’t happen tho but who knows atp 🥴
This !!! She said she needed time and he come proposing in front of her family hoping she forget the other shit and ….it worked
Everyone acted like that proposal was so romantic and it made me cringe. She was upset and didn't want to see him. Hell they weren't even really together and she was going through it emotionally only for him to pull the biggest stunt he could think of just to get her back. The moment he got on one knee it's like she forgot all the hurt.
No she's not.
The fact that Kirk could be so messy about someone else's relationship is laughable
I notice with Joc... whenever he has an opportunity to publicly deny something he claims he didn't do, he just laughs it off, and finesses his way out of the situation, behind closed doors. Doing that not only makes him look guilty, but it offers no protection, or security for the woman he claims he loves.
The drink being poured from the can on the “twerk.” Is the most triflin scene lol
That's the BIGGEST RED FLAG for Kendra. Kendra should've kept it moving then
The way the girl walked off when Kendra came over to get Joc had me hollering 😂
@@Iamcherese no I think she pushed her 😭😂🤣
Kendra wanted fame so desperately that she allowed herself to be dogged out in front of the world. So, she knew what she was getting.
Thank you.
Thisssss
Kendra is definitely a fraud . The way she cried infront of Bambi and Ericka pretending she didn’t know about that girl is ridiculous.
Can't stand her. She talk too much. Always trying to act like she above the rest of Jocs women. She's not. Evidently.
We needed this because it’s been a whole lotta confusion 😂
Right🤣🤣🤣
I was thinking the same thing! 🤔😭👏🏾
😬
🤣🤣🤣
And STILL is because clearly that was "overlap" from the beginning. Kendra knows what she got, she's not going anywhere.
Karlie is so disrespectful to joc and Kendra's relationship especially when they went at the cabin, just because her and mo wasn't at one she choose to make everyone relationship a mess.
Soooo, long story short...he's been playing in her face from day one. Roger that.
Right!!! Thanks Vh1 for clarifying it for us! 😉
10-4 lol
No degrees, education or career can erase the pathology of a person’s upbringing. This poor young lady probably witnessed all of the women in her life deal with men who ain’t shit since she was a child.
Black women must not only better themselves in education and business, but MUST undo the bad relationship pathologies from their mothers, sisters, grandmothers, aunts and cousins, as the mindset had to be changed.
💔💔💔
Rasheed must have been her voice of reason when it came to her making decisions. This is just sad at this point. He was still being reckless by having unprotected sex and has another baby during him and Kendra’s supposedly “break.”
TRUE. I wouldn’t have been able to marry him. Because having unprotected sex means either you weren’t planning on us getting back together or you just don’t give damn about me.
And that's just the unprotected sex she found out about and only because a baby came from that situation. Who knows where else he put that thing with no condom on.
So he did have another baby with another girl in the new episodes it keep coming up. But it's the girl meda meina idk how to spell her name she got the baby
This woman, as intelligent as she seems, is a fool for staying with this man.
Shes paying $$$ for his kids while she's childless ..... Joc loves and will always Want Karlie but kendra is the perfect s*x doll/ ATM
She has a nice body too
"I'm Definitely A Changed Man"😂😂
I thought Joc had changed too because he got Kendra's name tattooed on his D😂. I know that shit hurt....
Kendra constantly has to pull Joc to the side and talk to him and remind him to respect her?! Whew Chile he ain’t worth your energy 🙅🏾♀️
Kendra kendra kendra. She knew his patterns and, unfortunately She BECAME a part of his patterns 🤦🏽♀️
BW if you had a lot of BDs/kids like Joc NO BM would marry you (hell they barely marry u with none). Step your self-esteem UP. This a big L.
How you turn this to a way to make this about bw?? Yall dusties....😂😂😂😂
HELLO!
You aint said not one lie
The deflecting from that argument about him pouring water on another woman’s bum to her not wanting a baby is crazy deflection !!!!
Facts !!!!
She was so blindsided by it that she didn’t even know how to respond. That look on her face told everything. Toxic people are good for that.
Kendra ain't gonna be no judge. After being on this show she can kiss that dream goodbye lmao. Nobody is going to vote her in or appoint her now 😂😂
True that. Now that they can watch the show and see how Stupid and Naive she Truly is.... Who Wants an Attorney like That. ....
Where is Kevin Samuels you need him.... oh yea.... 😔RIP KS RIP.... he would've said "your degrees mean nothing! and You chose him" "you knew who he was so why are you complaining now Modern Woman!?"
Exactly
That's not true all these judges that has skeletons in their closet... She might make supreme court judge... 😆
That’s what I’m thinking
Go fix unu life and come out the people them business then quite fine.
Ugh I hate that she made herself look so goofy by messing with this man and trying to take him serious - all those babymamas would’ve been a dealbreaker for me smh 😭😭
😭😂🤣😅 "take serious "
Kendra face when Joc poured that water down poohs Crack. Omg. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right. So disrespectful.
Embarrassing 😭😭😭
More of the reasons why she should've just have fun with him and kept it moving because that was the red flag right there
@@ahavayasharahla9110 exactly
Joc loves Kendra but he's just not ready to settle
Kendra: The rumors about the "break baby" aren't rumors.
Me: 🤡
Lmafo 🤣
Listennnnnnn I was like bish whaaaa😆😆😆😆😆😆
My thing is how was she okay with him cheating on her and she was out doing her as well yet she mad about the baby?? Make it make sense!!
Damn they just got married not to long ago. Please tell me how y’all already need a break tho😂😂☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️😂😂😂. Ain’t no breaks, ain’t no separation. We staying together or divorcing- I don’t do the in between stuff.
Do ya'll believe in breaks in relationships? 😂 for me, I'm genuinely asking it's either ya'll together or ya'll ain't 😂
Kendra is too gorgeous and too good of a woman for this man 😩
I would love to see her with a doctor or a successful black man that's not in the industry
Well, she chose Joc. Despite her being an accomplished attorney with access to many successful top tier men smh. I don’t feel bad for her.
Physically but is she mentally?
I'm going to pray for Kendra because she's going to need it! 🙏🏽
😂☠️❤️☠️☠️☠️😂😂😂😂😂😂
What does Joc provide as a partner? Take money out of it he has multiple children with different woman, emotionally immature and cannot be faithful. Ladies, let’s take people at face value instead of the potential you think they might be one day.
That last sentence is KEY! When people show you who they are believe them!
@@LaDominicana33 always!
Joc leave Kendra alone before she becomes a bitter judge. Leave her alone.
The title needs to be more accurate...their timeline that we know of! LoL 🤦🏾♀️🤭🤷🏾♀️
Yessss rewind it back 😂😂👏🏽
Wait what you mean 😳👀 was Kendra messing around with joc while he was with karlie or sumn?
@@loyalcapricorn1772 There's an interview of her saying they took breaks, so only they really know the timeline; definitely not VH1...LoL
@@ninaangelique4811 but I feel like she just said that like Rasheeda did when Kurt had a baby on her
@@ninaangelique4811 oh ok lol I thought I missed some good tea from the blogs 😝
A man with 9 kids n several babies mothers is an automatic red flag for me. I couldn’t n being as accomplished as Kendra... Nah!!!
*13 kids
@@miabarnett2587 damn!
Naw that’s a stop sign!
Wait he really got that many kids
Wow didn't know how many he had...what a fool. Never would I either. That's too many. How old is his youngest???
I love drunk joc💀..this was the funniest part of the season 🤣🤣😂😂🙌
Mane said “see you can’t even get out, God dont want you to leave” 😂😂😂
that was so funny. and he was genuinely drunk, speech slurred and everything. 😂😂
I feel like Kendra wanted to be in a marriage where she could be the one in control. So she chose Joc as a fixer up project. But little did she know, when you see smoke, there's fire. But I think some of us need to be burned in order to understand that.
Yes that part
That's what it seems like to me.
👏🏽
She may be a real woman be he is far from a real man ! She needs a real man to match her and her lifestyle he is not it, but that’s something she’ll have to figure out herself…
You live and you learn, don’t down talk her.
Telling the truth is talking down?
Wait. So Kendra is mad at Joc for…. Being himself?
Ohtay.
So what happened to the tattoo? Somebody still got pregnant😂
LMFAO 😅😅😅😅😅😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm Weak 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same thing I’m thinking 🤣🤣🤣
Hot damn mess smh
Remember how we all thought Kendra had such class and in typical LHH fashion she's out here trying to fight her man's "entanglements" on national tv?
Exactly... you knew what you had from the jump but want to ask brand NEW about Meda.. she knew..
She deserves so much better...
She deserves what she demands.
She deserves what she puts up with
I'm in tears!!! The engagement was beautiful. I love kendra!
I hate that they literally pay ppl to ruin their lives
Kendra looked so beautiful on her wedding day her dress was a 10 out of 10❤
Kendra knew what she signed up for once she said i do
This relationship is tragic ! It reminds me of my old self. When I was an Attorney in training I met a real ROADMAN … of course I didn’t know this I was just out having fun and met him he was charming, kind and fascinated that I had it all together and wasn’t like girls in his “world”. The thing is even though you know right from wrong you end up falling for the person (yikes!) I did just that my life spiraled and I’d go to work tired from partying 5-6 nights a week. I wasn’t my usual self. I even found out he does drugs and wasn’t mad, yet I was the type that would NEVER.
I however drew the line at marriage - somehow I knew in my heart of hearts that I should never make such a huge commitment so easily / hastily. I knew who I was dealing with and wasn’t gonna do it forever. So I quietly disconnected my heart and left him and booooy am I doing a 1000 times better I’m an attorney now which he didn’t get to experience with a great job and credit and I hear he’s still for the streets with a baby on the way ! PS one time he suspected I was pregnant he made me take contraception and watched me to make sure I took it! It wasn’t even about me because I had a lot of good going on for me but he was afraid to be a dad and still for the streets. Need I mention most of his fellow drug using friends have children with autism (yeah their using is that bad).
We black woke women Don’t need to ever bounce back like Ciara ! We can choose to do better from the start but maybe we need the experience to fully appreciate what’s good. Also the entire relationship I was the money maker and spender even though he could afford it he was just bummy about everything
Good for u sis . I bet he tried to trash talk u to his crew like u the awful one.
@@neicynunnery yeah I bet he did - but results show for themselves lol he’s in a worse state than we met
So sorry you went through this, but at least you know your worth now!
@@madeleine9925 thank you 🙏🏾
Jock does not deserve Kendra, but I will say this, if you choose to be with someone, be with them. Don’t listen to everybody that has an opinion about your significant other. Kendra knew who Joc was when she got with him. She need to stop listening to women who would be with Joc in a heartbeat.
Kendra is a true Black Queen!! We all have some kind of flaw everyone is not perfect. And I know for a fact a lot of people are looking and wanting love.
All that you stated is in fact true. I love Kendra but she should have kept wanting and should have kept looking because he definitely wasn’t good for her heart and definitely not great for her career. She worked to hard for that career to be letting him taint it.
Imagine having no kids, a career and being a stepmother to 9 children!!!! If roles were reversed, joc wouldn't look her way.
I like when there’s an issue, she says something and she calms down instead of acting out of anger.
Joc saying that he has been into many fail relationship as if it was someone’s problem not his
Lol she still deserves better
Ladies, as a man. We're only going to do to you what you allow US to do until you check us about it. Joc have been the same since day 1 being on the show. She wants the entitlement so badly just so she can say I'm a WIFE.
So true
Thank you, as a gay woman, I’ve been telling my straight friends this for years!
AMEN
@@thatbeaatcch9884 it's so true. You only do what has you allowed to be done until you stop it
How about yall do what you're supposed to do and stop trying to get over on women.
I know he did NOT just act like having her name tat'd there means something. He still cheated!!
I don't really watch this show or reality shows in general so can yall tell me if he cheated before, during, or after they got married & what happened with the chick who said she has been with him on & off from 2008-2019ish???
One thing I've always refused to do was take an ex back. Always remember they're an ex for a reason! Cheating is most def a deal breaker for me as well because it's a choice. I can't stand when ppl say cheating is a mistake because it isn't.
One of my old female friends said I won't ever be in a relationship because of how fast I am to end things & I don't tolerate nonsense meanwhile she stayed with a guy for years who cheated etc & they got married a few years ago... sooo just to say I have a man I have to go through all of that?!
Absolutely not. I don't want to settle & to whoever is reading this man/woman you shouldn't either.
Time is something we can't get back so don't waste it or allow anyone else to.
I’ll die with 10 cats before I accept that bs!
This show teaches me that it don't matter how rich, successful or educated these women are, they will let toxic dude make fools of them NUMEROUS times.
They all sad( except spice so far)
Exactly!
Joc need a t shirt that says " We need ta talk" bc I swear 🤣🤣🤣
Or, oops I did it again!😂
@@ybeckom lol right cause she stay pulling him to the side 🤣
She deserves so much better.
You accept what you think you deserve.
Not attractive, baggage, bunch of kids and a cheater. What do she see in him🤔 Even if he was attractive he still shouldn't get a pass. Joc got too much going on.
Joc is the show😂😂🤣🤣😅 and Stevy J.
It’s always that one woman that thinks they can change a man. I love Kendra so much & I feel bad for her honestly. This is so embarrassing.
I like kendra but she made a big mistake marrying him . He has a lot of baggage and is never gonna stop cheating . I feel bad for her cus I’m sure she really feels that he’s gonna change but he’s not .
Those emojis on that title are right ….the relationship really went from 😍 to 😳