Has the spiral at the end of the road talked about around 1:22:00 been checked for alignment with that overhanging shadow on equinoxes or season changes?
Not to anger white people ... When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America. The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them. Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian). Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded. Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
I think about the broken pot shards and wonder if this is the remnant of one of those ceremonies where people make a wish for the future or discard the resentments, disappointments, etc., of the old year... And perhaps the presence of decorative and utility pot shards reflects the socio-economic strata of the wishers/discarders.
Not to anger white people ... When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America. The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them. Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian). Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded. Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
Think of the “roads” as avenues or conduits that go both ways. The town center/“temple” can be seen as a hub in the center of a spoked wheel. The hub might be seen as “sending out” an access road. But also, the hub may be gathering energy from the distant points at the far ends of the spokes. Maybe equinoxes and other astronomical events throughout the calendar year.
Not to anger white people ... When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America. The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them. Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian). Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded. Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
@@jamesking1495 appreciate that you disagree. Pray, what are the non cultural, “real” differences between races? I can think of a few adaptations, but those are more location driven than “race” determined. I’ll be eager to learn from you.
@@hershchat oh , how about blood? Or altitude? Or color even? But that's not all many Anglophone scientists are manipulating some cultures because of anatomy.
@@jamesking1495 thanks for the well considered response. Respectfully, these are adaptations, and not differences that constitute genetic or fundamental differences between human beings. Colour: between white people, there is a range of shades, and nothing suggests that the darker ones are fundamentally different from the fairer ones. I am brown, my sister is black, and a cousin is white with blue eyes. That despite the fact that, like the Samurai, we are an endogenous people, with centuries of endogamy on record. A perfectly mixed human race will not be a perfectly homogeneous race. It will have a wide spread of complexions. If you took people with cleft chins, or dimpled cheeks, or some other inheritable but non-adaptive trait, and enjoined that they become endogamous, then their progeny will eventually become a “race” of cleft chinned, or dimpled cheeked people. Like Darwin’s finches, or like different colored flowers of the same kind, these differences are meaningless in terms of “real” differences. I am not sure what you mean by “blood”. If you mean the rhesus factor, then that is a non-significant variable for any purpose other than blood transfusion. The high-altitude adaptation of Kenyans goes away in a single generation, and the sickle cell of the Congolese in a few. These are mere adaptations, not equal to segmenting humanity in any meaningful way. I see no connection with being an Anglophone. Also, there are non white anglophone nations also. I am sorry, but it is not clear what you mean by, “altitude”. It is not unlikely that our experience is what differentiates our world view. Thanks for sharing yours.
I find it fun to try to find these locations from Google Maps, but can't because I lack the GPS coordinates. It would be really fun to have that info so I can "travel" to those points.
Not to anger white people ... When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America. The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them. Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian). Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded. Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
These sites are Ancestral puebloan, how are Navajos even connected to our ancestors? Dineh people were orginally from Alaska/Canada area and didnt set foot in the four corners til the 1400's. You should have more pueblo input since they are our ancestors.
Not to anger white people ... When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America. The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them. Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian). Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded. Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
Seems some of the roads were tied to astronomy because I know a kind of observatory was found on a rocky tower in the Chaco area. Also it seems much of the “roads” are tied to ritual religious/spiritual aspects - possibly pilgrimage paths to key sites or orientation to mountaintops tied to gods. Some roads might also be tied to actual spiritual leaders such as the ruins of structures where the leaders (shamans/prophets) lived. The shreds might be pilgrimage offerings?
some roads were to confuse the evil gods when the people would flee. They had to flee on many occasions b/c of an evil entity. However I can not tell the story. The Parks Dept. will not allow the truth to be told.
Not to anger white people ... When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America. The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them. Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian). Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded. Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
You never enter a building/home/hogon etc...directly. You walk around it clockwise, and when you get to the entrance, you announce yourself and ask permission to enter. When you exit, you exit right to complete the clockwise circle. It is also taboo to block the door. Only a rug can be hung over it. This is so The Holy People can enter. Usually this is during a idk..prayer session, a talk with the Holy People etc...Whatever they are gathered together for, there is a specific sand drawing for it. It's funny but not these days. The elder men will go in and then anyone remember the pattern for this or that? Sometimes the Holy People will help, give advice etc...but often they don't and you find out later, they did answer. It's the same as with praying to GOD. It's all the same, just diff. terms and methods. WORLDWIDE. I can tell you one thing. You will NEVER get the full TRUTH out of the Dineh. There's a reason for that. At Chaco for sure, the Parks Dept. will NOT ALLOW the truth to be told as to what happened there. This is direct from a Dineh Navajo 3rd generation medicine man and storyteller Dr. Don Mose Jr. Also, Most, especially the young, In Dineh it means "Those who do things different", NOT ANCIENT ENEMY. Anasazi came from the south. They can't be ancestors. The Dineh themselves, in oral tradition ..consistently says they came from the EAST. always from the east. There's a whole story about the journey. Maybe ages ago they came from the Alaska region, after and only after traveling across Canada, down the east coast and back across the central USA. They say they saw the big river and cross it, came to a sea of grass for as far as one could see. They passed many diff. peoples, but all similar to them in their beliefs and ways. THey made camp at the edge of the plains in the panhandle of Tx. Oklahoma and SW Kansas. Sent scouts out. When the scouts returned, they packed up and continued their journey west to their "forever home" THey used those roads for travel, trade and had outposts with water stored for those coming along who need it. They were also for the Holy People. The 4 directions are a sacred thing. Every ceremony starts with an offering of corn pollen or meal, in every direction but East. The Holy People are from the east. The Sun rise. All doors align to the east to face the first rays of life giving sun. They did not worship the sun tho. Why you won't ever get the truth(multiple reasons, betrayal is one), is b/c many, if not most Dineh, don't even know their own language or how to use it properly. The words mean something and each word can have diff. meanings, depending on how they are used. LIKE...ANASAZI was the name given to those people, by the Dineh when the Dineh arrived. The Dineh lived within the Anasazi lands for 1k yrs. Dr. Mose has 2k yrs of Oral Tradition for not only his people the Dineh, but also the last 1k yrs of the "Anasazi" who in the end "lost their way" as he says. It was the Anasazi who called the Dineh "Navajo", it means Field people or people of the field b/c they worked the fields obviously. IT IS THE ZUNI language that Anasazi means Ancient Ones. Maybe that was the Hopi language. I don't have my notes right here of course. The Dineh would never go near Chaco, They called it The House of Crying. The "Anasazi" were violent, not peaceful. The practiced sorcery, mocked the gods, were SLAVE TRADERS/HOLDERS. People came from other tribes, to become Dineh. Who were a peaceful people. War was always a last resort. Violence of any kind could get you removed from the tribe and many did have to go off on their own and according to him, prob joined other groups with rule they could live by. The Dineh are a mixed tribe. Not pure Dineh is what I mean. SOme are, many aren't. Their clans came from the CLiff Dwellers and Anasazi who fled the madness at Chaco. The Cannibalism didn't begin until the last few hundred yrs of the Anasazi's existence. While many survived and just fled to the cliffs and mountains, built structures up in the cliffs to hide their food and selves b/c the Anasazi constantly raided their food stores. No one around, like the Anasazi. They were considered evil people. There is no MYSTERY about CHACO, YOU JUST DONT KNOW THE TRUTH. Thank THe Parks Dept. or your GOV. The Gambler, I know a story about that. The Gambler showed up at Chaco, and quickly they became addicted to gambling. So much so that they began to offer up their wives and children. Well they captured several Dineh. A young man went to the Anasazi wanting to gamble for his people back, or they get him if he loses. Well of course he wins and brings his ppl back. He is forever a hero in Dineh legends. The Betrayal: I believe it was The Hopi who allowed a man from the Smithsonian to film one of their sacred ceremonies. The agreement was that he would not make it public, publish it etc...well HE DID and they found out. From then on, tribal folk say there is some knowledge we will not tell. You see what happens. It gets twisted and looked at from modern mans view of the world. They think they know our history better than us. They can take our lives, language, customs and ways, but they can never take what's stored in your head. THis is why ORAL TRADITION IS IMPORTANT. It's not a game of telephone either. Just like you know the lyrics to thousands of songs. Oral tradition is the same. It's always done in the form of song/chant. It starts with a young child who shows great memory. They daily they are taught, for their entire lives. Even one of the elderly Dineh Historians says they old people choose what to share with him. He is elderly lol. Yet considers these ppl as the elders. So even he doesn't have all the knowledge of the Dineh. He holds the "official" story the gov. allows to be heard about the Navajo. Not what their true history is. Also, the good Dr. says the spiral petroglyph represents a portal. This is where I have to stop. I can not share the rest of the story. It's very Biblical in nature. It's all in the book "On the Path of the Immortals" by Dr. Thomas Horn. You want talk of Giants, cannibalism, Nephilim. The roads confused the demons, ya know...which way did they go
Those are not all roads. More like paths towards the Holy Mountains. They have so many I forget them all now. 4-7 is the usual, as they are sacred numbers. They did not consider the mountains homes for the gods. Mt. Graham is a Holy Mtn. b/c it's where the hero twins killed the monsters and flung them against the mountain where they died.
awesome research! Thankful to have you researching this topic
Has the spiral at the end of the road talked about around 1:22:00 been checked for alignment with that overhanging shadow on equinoxes or season changes?
Awesome awesome work!!!
Not to anger white people ...
When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America.
The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them.
Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian).
Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded.
Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
I think about the broken pot shards and wonder if this is the remnant of one of those ceremonies where people make a wish for the future or discard the resentments, disappointments, etc., of the old year... And perhaps the presence of decorative and utility pot shards reflects the socio-economic strata of the wishers/discarders.
This is so much fun!
Not to anger white people ...
When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America.
The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them.
Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian).
Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded.
Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
wow, good works ,supports my own aerial research in Midwest, that we have lost aerial clues to our humanity history and future
Could it be these "roads" were actually vectors modeling some sort of 3 dimensional geometry?
Think of the “roads” as avenues or conduits that go both ways. The town center/“temple” can be seen as a hub in the center of a spoked wheel. The hub might be seen as “sending out” an access road. But also, the hub may be gathering energy from the distant points at the far ends of the spokes. Maybe equinoxes and other astronomical events throughout the calendar year.
Not to anger white people ...
When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America.
The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them.
Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian).
Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded.
Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
@@hershchat there are more than cultural differences, your ignorance is astounding.
@@jamesking1495 appreciate that you disagree. Pray, what are the non cultural, “real” differences between races? I can think of a few adaptations, but those are more location driven than “race” determined. I’ll be eager to learn from you.
@@hershchat oh , how about blood? Or altitude? Or color even? But that's not all many Anglophone scientists are manipulating some cultures because of anatomy.
@@jamesking1495 thanks for the well considered response. Respectfully, these are adaptations, and not differences that constitute genetic or fundamental differences between human beings. Colour: between white people, there is a range of shades, and nothing suggests that the darker ones are fundamentally different from the fairer ones. I am brown, my sister is black, and a cousin is white with blue eyes. That despite the fact that, like the Samurai, we are an endogenous people, with centuries of endogamy on record. A perfectly mixed human race will not be a perfectly homogeneous race. It will have a wide spread of complexions.
If you took people with cleft chins, or dimpled cheeks, or some other inheritable but non-adaptive trait, and enjoined that they become endogamous, then their progeny will eventually become a “race” of cleft chinned, or dimpled cheeked people. Like Darwin’s finches, or like different colored flowers of the same kind, these differences are meaningless in terms of “real” differences.
I am not sure what you mean by “blood”. If you mean the rhesus factor, then that is a non-significant variable for any purpose other than blood transfusion. The high-altitude adaptation of Kenyans goes away in a single generation, and the sickle cell of the Congolese in a few. These are mere adaptations, not equal to segmenting humanity in any meaningful way.
I see no connection with being an Anglophone. Also, there are non white anglophone nations also.
I am sorry, but it is not clear what you mean by, “altitude”.
It is not unlikely that our experience is what differentiates our world view. Thanks for sharing yours.
I find it fun to try to find these locations from Google Maps, but can't because I lack the GPS coordinates. It would be really fun to have that info so I can "travel" to those points.
Use google earth!
So I guess those roads don't lead to Rome .
Not to anger white people ...
When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America.
The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them.
Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian).
Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded.
Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
@@hershchat And all this time I thought race was two people trying to go faster then the other.
@@kevinreardon2558 some times one people try to slow the other down. Look at your own history.
@@hershchat That's pretty incoherent.
@@kevinreardon2558 Respectfully sir, it might be incoherent, but it is nonetheless true.
These sites are Ancestral puebloan, how are Navajos even connected to our ancestors? Dineh people were orginally from Alaska/Canada area and didnt set foot in the four corners til the 1400's. You should have more pueblo input since they are our ancestors.
Not to anger white people ...
When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America.
The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them.
Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian).
Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded.
Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
@@hershchat what?
Seems some of the roads were tied to astronomy because I know a kind of observatory was found on a rocky tower in the Chaco area. Also it seems much of the “roads” are tied to ritual religious/spiritual aspects - possibly pilgrimage paths to key sites or orientation to mountaintops tied to gods. Some roads might also be tied to actual spiritual leaders such as the ruins of structures where the leaders (shamans/prophets) lived. The shreds might be pilgrimage offerings?
some roads were to confuse the evil gods when the people would flee. They had to flee on many occasions b/c of an evil entity. However I can not tell the story. The Parks Dept. will not allow the truth to be told.
The roads were once white. Any connections to White Sands?
Not to anger white people ...
When we say “American”, it should mean the people who lived here when we found America.
The only Americans are the inhabitants of Chaco, and other American tribes. Craig Childs, Steve Lekson, I, Trump, Clinton, Bush... the white Population of the US is NOT more American than them.
Just like black people are called blacks or African American, and Asians are called Asian American, similarly whites should be called European American, or white American. It is a bit arrogant to save “American” for the actual invading people, and relegate the natives to a borrowed (“Indian”) or hyphenated identity (American Indian).
Also, white is also a color. Please do not call the rest of us people of color, and yourself “neutral” by exclusion. We are ALL people of color, if you have to be simple minded.
Finally, please please recognize that race is a non biological, purely sociological term. The only difference between races is cultural, and therefore created by privileged people. It serves to divide and denigrate, it does nothing to build a better society.
That's racist 😐😑😐
@@jamesking1495 🤔
@@hershchat I was talking to the other commenter.
You never enter a building/home/hogon etc...directly. You walk around it clockwise, and when you get to the entrance, you announce yourself and ask permission to enter. When you exit, you exit right to complete the clockwise circle. It is also taboo to block the door. Only a rug can be hung over it. This is so The Holy People can enter. Usually this is during a idk..prayer session, a talk with the Holy People etc...Whatever they are gathered together for, there is a specific sand drawing for it. It's funny but not these days. The elder men will go in and then anyone remember the pattern for this or that? Sometimes the Holy People will help, give advice etc...but often they don't and you find out later, they did answer. It's the same as with praying to GOD. It's all the same, just diff. terms and methods. WORLDWIDE.
I can tell you one thing. You will NEVER get the full TRUTH out of the Dineh. There's a reason for that. At Chaco for sure, the Parks Dept. will NOT ALLOW the truth to be told as to what happened there. This is direct from a Dineh Navajo 3rd generation medicine man and storyteller Dr. Don Mose Jr.
Also, Most, especially the young, In Dineh it means "Those who do things different", NOT ANCIENT ENEMY. Anasazi came from the south. They can't be ancestors. The Dineh themselves, in oral tradition ..consistently says they came from the EAST. always from the east. There's a whole story about the journey. Maybe ages ago they came from the Alaska region, after and only after traveling across Canada, down the east coast and back across the central USA. They say they saw the big river and cross it, came to a sea of grass for as far as one could see. They passed many diff. peoples, but all similar to them in their beliefs and ways. THey made camp at the edge of the plains in the panhandle of Tx. Oklahoma and SW Kansas. Sent scouts out. When the scouts returned, they packed up and continued their journey west to their "forever home"
THey used those roads for travel, trade and had outposts with water stored for those coming along who need it. They were also for the Holy People. The 4 directions are a sacred thing. Every ceremony starts with an offering of corn pollen or meal, in every direction but East. The Holy People are from the east. The Sun rise. All doors align to the east to face the first rays of life giving sun. They did not worship the sun tho.
Why you won't ever get the truth(multiple reasons, betrayal is one), is b/c many, if not most Dineh, don't even know their own language or how to use it properly. The words mean something and each word can have diff. meanings, depending on how they are used. LIKE...ANASAZI was the name given to those people, by the Dineh when the Dineh arrived. The Dineh lived within the Anasazi lands for 1k yrs.
Dr. Mose has 2k yrs of Oral Tradition for not only his people the Dineh, but also the last 1k yrs of the "Anasazi" who in the end "lost their way" as he says. It was the Anasazi who called the Dineh "Navajo", it means Field people or people of the field b/c they worked the fields obviously. IT IS THE ZUNI language that Anasazi means Ancient Ones. Maybe that was the Hopi language. I don't have my notes right here of course.
The Dineh would never go near Chaco, They called it The House of Crying. The "Anasazi" were violent, not peaceful. The practiced sorcery, mocked the gods, were SLAVE TRADERS/HOLDERS. People came from other tribes, to become Dineh. Who were a peaceful people. War was always a last resort. Violence of any kind could get you removed from the tribe and many did have to go off on their own and according to him, prob joined other groups with rule they could live by. The Dineh are a mixed tribe. Not pure Dineh is what I mean. SOme are, many aren't. Their clans came from the CLiff Dwellers and Anasazi who fled the madness at Chaco.
The Cannibalism didn't begin until the last few hundred yrs of the Anasazi's existence. While many survived and just fled to the cliffs and mountains, built structures up in the cliffs to hide their food and selves b/c the Anasazi constantly raided their food stores. No one around, like the Anasazi. They were considered evil people. There is no MYSTERY about CHACO, YOU JUST DONT KNOW THE TRUTH. Thank THe Parks Dept. or your GOV.
The Gambler, I know a story about that. The Gambler showed up at Chaco, and quickly they became addicted to gambling. So much so that they began to offer up their wives and children. Well they captured several Dineh. A young man went to the Anasazi wanting to gamble for his people back, or they get him if he loses. Well of course he wins and brings his ppl back. He is forever a hero in Dineh legends.
The Betrayal: I believe it was The Hopi who allowed a man from the Smithsonian to film one of their sacred ceremonies. The agreement was that he would not make it public, publish it etc...well HE DID and they found out. From then on, tribal folk say there is some knowledge we will not tell. You see what happens. It gets twisted and looked at from modern mans view of the world. They think they know our history better than us. They can take our lives, language, customs and ways, but they can never take what's stored in your head. THis is why ORAL TRADITION IS IMPORTANT. It's not a game of telephone either. Just like you know the lyrics to thousands of songs. Oral tradition is the same. It's always done in the form of song/chant. It starts with a young child who shows great memory. They daily they are taught, for their entire lives.
Even one of the elderly Dineh Historians says they old people choose what to share with him. He is elderly lol. Yet considers these ppl as the elders. So even he doesn't have all the knowledge of the Dineh. He holds the "official" story the gov. allows to be heard about the Navajo. Not what their true history is.
Also, the good Dr. says the spiral petroglyph represents a portal. This is where I have to stop. I can not share the rest of the story. It's very Biblical in nature.
It's all in the book "On the Path of the Immortals" by Dr. Thomas Horn. You want talk of Giants, cannibalism, Nephilim. The roads confused the demons, ya know...which way did they go
Those are not all roads. More like paths towards the Holy Mountains. They have so many I forget them all now. 4-7 is the usual, as they are sacred numbers. They did not consider the mountains homes for the gods. Mt. Graham is a Holy Mtn. b/c it's where the hero twins killed the monsters and flung them against the mountain where they died.