F-16 Tree Strike Confession

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มี.ค. 2009
  • Narrated HUD video of F-16 tree strike. Note: I was not the pilot. This was distributed to us at the Navy TOPGUN school, as we had started flying F-16Ns at the time.
    The sad part is, the pilot was ordered to make this educational video in order to keep his wings. After it was distributed to squadrons, some general saw it and had the poor guy's wings jerked anyway.
    Who knows? Maybe it was for the best.
    Anyway, watch, sweat and learn!
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  • @Bryan-cs9to
    @Bryan-cs9to 4 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    That is how you get call sign Splinter

    • @johnsweeney6072
      @johnsweeney6072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Yes grass hopper.

    • @namorcaz
      @namorcaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Winner!

    • @johnsweeney6072
      @johnsweeney6072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brian Landers yeah my wood chipper bogs down chewing inch branches I’d love to have a donk like that in the back yard 🌳🌲. This guys incredible to bring it home. I’d hate to be the one cleaning his suit. 💩

    • @everythingman987
      @everythingman987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Callsigns of no use if you get your wings taken away

    • @11kungfu11
      @11kungfu11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Topper or Lopper also.

  • @woox200sx
    @woox200sx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    Thanks for the advice. I'll remember it for next time I happen to buy a F-16

    • @yamabushi170
      @yamabushi170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      What happened to the last f16 you bought?

    • @woox200sx
      @woox200sx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@yamabushi170 I hit a tree

    • @yamabushi170
      @yamabushi170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@woox200sx perhaps flying isn't for you. Try branching out.

    • @woox200sx
      @woox200sx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@yamabushi170 Yes, that could be the 'root' of the problem

    • @yamabushi170
      @yamabushi170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@woox200sx agreed. Let's leave it at that.

  • @everythingman987
    @everythingman987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    Looked up the tail number, the very same mishap airframe is still in service, flying with the Indonesian Air Force!

    • @smeghead666
      @smeghead666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      *Slightly used, one careful owner*

    • @MassLox
      @MassLox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@smeghead666 "Never taken off road, 35 million, No tyre kickers, I know what it's worth."

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      No problem, there are no trees and no ridges in Indonesia. And no one shooting at you, either, shouting "Hey, you're wasting my taxes! Bang bang bang bang!"

    • @OffGridInvestor
      @OffGridInvestor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Trust me the Indonesians DON'T have that much cash. We give them $1 billion a year to stop people smugglers bringing in illegals to Australia. But NONE OF IT gets to their border patrol. All just goes into the higher ups pockets. I asked a family member in the military. He told me it's REALLY just APPEASEMENT money to stop them getting ideas of invading Australia. They could easily outdo us in sheer numbers, but we have the better gear and more money.

    • @jhyland87
      @jhyland87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How about the pilot? Still in use? How about the _tree?!_

  • @youreale
    @youreale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    Try to see the bright side: The F-16 is rugged enough to swallow a tree and survive to RTB.

    • @cardude1992
      @cardude1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think just a few thick branches and not the tree.

    • @thefloridamanofytcomments5264
      @thefloridamanofytcomments5264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I thought if the dude lost his job he must have ejected and ditched the entire aircraft. Yea he fucked up, people ding cars in parking lots - we’ve all done it. But nobody died, and if anything he’s less likely to repeat these mistakes than anybody else.

    • @Atvsrawsome
      @Atvsrawsome 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thefloridamanofytcomments5264 right I can see if it's a repeat offense but shit it makes you a better operator.

    • @pubert3
      @pubert3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is far better to make your mistake in training rather than in combat. This is the very specific purpose of training.

  • @subvet657
    @subvet657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I thought we all learned that lesson from Tom Cruise in Top Gun. the hard deck for this op was 300 feet. you knew it, you broke it.

    • @Ltmonte
      @Ltmonte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      10,000

  • @matthewspry4217
    @matthewspry4217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Remember ladies and gentlemen an f16 is not a vegetarian it prefers meat

  • @dahawk8574
    @dahawk8574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    2:51 - "I had understood that I was prohibited from screwing pooches while over flat terrain.
    It's very clear to me now that the rule against screwing pooches also applies to ridge crossings."

    • @jacobmccandles1767
      @jacobmccandles1767 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Da Hawk ^ this guy gets it. The pilots "I thought I could screw the pooch on ridge crossings" story is blatantly BULL SHIT to anyone who's served.

  • @richardspringfield1801
    @richardspringfield1801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I was stationed at Hill AFB Ut from 1978 to 1982. While there the original F-16 vs tree incident happened. The pilot flew to low to the trees and picked up a few unauthorized modifications. There was several pine branches wedged into different areas of the wings. The rumor going around was that the pilot claimed that the tree just jump up into his flight path. This lead to pilots being briefed to watch out for WULPs ( Wild Utah leaping Pines)

    • @kirkf4crewdawg604
      @kirkf4crewdawg604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was stationed there at that time (16th AMU) and remember that! LOL! Left there and went to the "Kun" in "82."

    • @richardspringfield1801
      @richardspringfield1801 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bob Loblaw I remember the incident but not the name. Do you remember the foreign pilot that crashed landed at the end of the runway because he forgot to close the IFR door after refueling.

    • @BitwiseMobile
      @BitwiseMobile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was in the Navy and I thought we had the stupidest pilots. Now I'm starting to wonder ... I worked on electronics - mostly fire control - and we had a running joke with the pilots. We would always say that pilots thought OFF stands for On Full Force and when it doesn't work in the OFF position they ask for R&R of said module. The squadron O-Level will take it out - they don't argue with the pilots - and replace with another piece of gear. Then when it gets to the AIMD shop (where I worked) nothing would be wrong with it. That happened several times to me on various pieces of gear. The running joke about OFF was usually applied in these situations. There was one airman who actually wrote up on the ticket that it was no fix and the reason was because OFF doesn't stand for On Full Force. Yeah, he got a talking to by the chief, but it was probably worth it in the long run ;)

    • @1stviper589
      @1stviper589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I was there in 4th AMU in 79 through 82 before going to Korea, and remember that incident well because we had to pull 4 x 4 piece out of the Leading Edge flap where it tried to rip the missile rail off, and other chunks then we had to straighten out the electronics because we had all kind of crazy symbology showing up on the HUD... sure made for some interesting art on the bulletin board

    • @1stviper589
      @1stviper589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kirkf4crewdawg604 yeah man I was there in the 4th AMU from late 79 through 82 before going to the Headhunters in Korea ,I remember that well after pulling all the pieces out of that aircraft and trying to straighten out the electronics, they were showing crazy symbology. and lots of goofy artwork on the bulletin boards!

  • @LazyScoutJace
    @LazyScoutJace 4 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    But I thought you could just fly through tree foliage like in Ace Combat

    • @TiernanWilkinson
      @TiernanWilkinson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Apparently real life is much closer to Just Cause 2 rules; hit much of anything and you're pretty much screwed.
      Also nice profile pic lol

    • @killerofzombs115
      @killerofzombs115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aww yea!

    • @seagie382
      @seagie382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its like in gta where if you touch a tree branch you instantly explode

    • @Emilthehun
      @Emilthehun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You definitely can just like in the movies. ONCE 😂👍

    • @joefrazer9357
      @joefrazer9357 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      try DCS

  • @Parabueto
    @Parabueto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Not going to lie, I read "Three Strikes".

  • @JeffSharonLive
    @JeffSharonLive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Please tell me the crew chief hung a Pine Fresh Car-Freshener from the canopy next time this guy flew.

  • @WootTootZoot
    @WootTootZoot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Basically, the title should read, "How I screwed the pooch, and why I'm OIC of the Mess Hall".

    • @LVVideoGuy
      @LVVideoGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was actually returned to Flying Status after this mishap... but, he had to make this video "confession" if you will before they would allow it...

  • @oldbaldfatman2766
    @oldbaldfatman2766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Oct. 5, 2019---Used to take & trade slides of military aircraft when I was in the Air Force. Got a shot of a F-4E which also struck a tree. "Official report" stated the pilot unexpectedly lost wing lift due to wind shear, causing them to strike the tree. But thru experience and proven expertise, said pilot was able to save said aircraft while in flight. In reality, he and his WSO were done doing some gunnery range practice at Ft. Richardson which is next door to Elmendorf. This was when the pilot says hey, let's buzz those moose below us. Someone painted a bent tree on the air intake.

    • @AllisterCaine
      @AllisterCaine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, there have been call signs given for worse behaviour, and those kept their wings. Sometimes i don't get that kind of decisionmaking.

    • @nikovlogs9837
      @nikovlogs9837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We really can't know, we weren't there or know everythig related.
      But in aviation, what you did and how you got there is seldom important to the question of why didn't do certain things before inflight event. As an aviator failure chains in the human and machine and environment are to be managed by a quick and capable and frankly, unerring mind. Maintaining spatial and terrain awareness being key. He received low level training and was aware of the risks and hazards in his situation. He absolutely prioritized a bird and some faux situational awareness of his surroundings over low level aviating within a valley and it hijacked his SA, or was seriously negligent and definitely recklessly complacent about crosschecks (CFIT time to die) prioritization.
      Put it another way. If you saw a cat on a mountain road (with a raveen on one side) and that momentary distraction almost caused a head-on collision with a truck, and I were a cop, had it on dashcam, a judge would consider hard to suspend your licence. Now imagine if you were a bus driver with 50 people on your bus? Ok fine, you didn't become a bus driver but a fighter pilot. And the cat was a bird. Is almost dying and destroying an aircraft because such a stupid mistake a reason to loose wings? I hope so.
      Not to say that all people don't deserve a second chance, but that's an exception and the USAF has plenty of new pilots to choose from that will be a little more careful.

  • @texn8
    @texn8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Great voice over comments, tough mission. As an old ADC hack I never got that close, AGL. You learned a hell of a lession. Con grats on surviving the ride!

  • @justicewarrior9187
    @justicewarrior9187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This footage is absolutely amazing!!!
    I would never even think that a fighter at that speed could survive that!!
    Thank you so much

    • @codyi5232
      @codyi5232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Justice Warrior titanium vs wood

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's a YT video on an F15 like plane, that lost a complete wing and made it back safe. One wing and the wide fuselage and high speed kept it going!

    • @codyi5232
      @codyi5232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Voor Naam no he sucked about 5 feet of the top of an evergreen fur into the intake, as well as sheering the trees level on his left wing.
      Titanium is hardened to perhaps allow a damaged aircraft to fly long enough to allow ejection if the pilot is able. Despite their size and assumed fragility the f-16 is a stout machine.
      He was saved because he clipped the top of the tree. The intake ate and spit out the majority of the tree. His speed is truly what saved him.

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. He was too slow. Faster means kinetic energy to get over those trees. Too slow is dangerous. You saw it yourself. Crash.

    • @codyi5232
      @codyi5232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Voor Naam he hit a tree, and went right through it. His mission was NOE high aspect ambush. He even says his IAS at the time of impact was over 400knots.
      He also said he never pulled back on the stick.
      I get the feeling you’re being purposefully argumentative, but your words just reveal you know very little and didn’t even listen to the pilots own testimony.
      He didn’t have a lack of energy, he wasn’t looking, that’s his own words.

  • @OakRidgeBob
    @OakRidgeBob 13 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    @KutWrite Well, the guy trashed a 4 million dollar engine, took an aircraft off of ready status for the better part of a year - and had to narrate a video to keep his wings. The Center Commander (a 2 star) was waiting for him when he landed, and sat in on his debrief. I was one of the engine shop troops who inspected the motor, and determined that it was destroyed. We inspected it, signed off on it, and sent it to depot for them to deal with.

    • @halops117
      @halops117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I love it when someone with personal experience of the incident mentioned in the youtube video comments on that video. thanks for your input!

    • @CameTo
      @CameTo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      NPC's do like their unrelated nasty posts.

    • @kainhall
      @kainhall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @CSXRockford and trump is making sure of.it

    • @loweflyer7778
      @loweflyer7778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Jake Heke lol milotary aviation vids are always a shitshow

    • @user-do5zk6jh1k
      @user-do5zk6jh1k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You civs need to chill out. Take your politics to Reddit.

  • @rafterrafter5320
    @rafterrafter5320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Legend has it, the pilot of that F-16, is now a bush pilot, for a small company down in Alaska

  • @nick4819
    @nick4819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I thought he crashed again at the end lmao....

    • @alecisla
      @alecisla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omg I thought exaclty the same thing .. LMAO

  • @Frederf220
    @Frederf220 14 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    It seems counter-productive to reprimand this pilot so harshly. His mistakes were those of poor technique and understanding and not those of any malicious or poor high-level decision making. Being frank about mistakes is an absolutely healthy and helpful attitude for the Air Force to take. If anything it's a wake up call that these sort of procedural errors are possible or not countered by proper training and review.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite  5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, but you get to be a General by CYA and politics. That's the mindset that will overturn a deal and stick it to an underling.

    • @frankmccroskey294
      @frankmccroskey294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Counter productive?? He was a seasoned pilot. He made the mistakes. He DOES deserve this reprimand!! And lose his wings.

    • @frankmccroskey294
      @frankmccroskey294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SharkyShark94 Agreed!!!

    • @farzana6676
      @farzana6676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SharkyShark94 He didn't save his career. He lost his wings.

    • @dunbar555
      @dunbar555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SharkyShark94 not the right call. everybody makes mistakes. He lived to fly another day, and it wasnt negligent. How much did it cost to train him ? All that lost for what ?

  • @Texas240
    @Texas240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Plot twist: this video fails to heed the advice of the speaker and strikes a tree at 5:26
    Regarding the vid description, the Chair Force general who pulled the pilot's wings, interceding in the decision of the immediate chain of command, didn't understand the value of learning/teaching from other's mistakes (experience) nor the value of not micromanaging subordinate officers.
    That general was likely a beneficiary of the "fuck up, move up" promotion system. Nobody wanted him in their command and the most efficient way to get rid of him was to promote him out. So, he winds up being incompetent and unqualified but with a stellar, unblemished record and pattern of early promotion that, on paper, made him a great candidate for general.
    He's probably the guy who went on to decide drone pilots should draw flight pay and be required to pass flight physicals.

    • @MPVC1
      @MPVC1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahahaha true.

  • @TheChipMcDonald
    @TheChipMcDonald 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had the privilege in the early 80s to watch F16s and A10s practice on a target range... Many of them on the approach were flying low enough to make the tall pine trees sway from their wash.

  • @user-sz7xz7de5o
    @user-sz7xz7de5o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legends say that he is still writing the paper.

  • @michaels3757
    @michaels3757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    “Only altitude feedback I got was the hud warning signal” 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ what aviator eliminates altitude from his avionics?

    • @nikovlogs9837
      @nikovlogs9837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a switch near the HUD to select details on the hud. When dog fighting during this era some pilots felt it was cleaner. It's very much like cleaning all the toolbars in a program when only needing one. Why clutter eyes, mind, and brain with visual noise when not needed?
      Aha! Gotcha.

  • @steveevans424
    @steveevans424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    " suddenly I notice a Pinon pine of approximately 50 feet in height and 2 feet in base diameter I sent in to gather a cone sample"

    • @braeeee_
      @braeeee_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fucking gold 😂👌

  • @ringmasterjeb3453
    @ringmasterjeb3453 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was a Nellis Plane from the 57th FWW instructor was flying the plane., plane was placed on a truck and taken to Hill AFB for repair.

  • @brundlebums9751
    @brundlebums9751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “I don’t even remember making a trim change”

  • @philliplopez8745
    @philliplopez8745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Shit happens when you dance on the edge .

  • @vmlinuxz
    @vmlinuxz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing commentary. Thank you

  • @Tom_Hadler
    @Tom_Hadler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The whole altimeter hud excuse is a red herring. Pilot simply wasn't looking where he was going. Could've easily crashed before the tree strike as well. Weird flying style, can't blame the guy for firing him.

  • @bearb1asting
    @bearb1asting 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a wonderful and harrowing lesson

  • @jhyland87
    @jhyland87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn trees come out of nowhere...

  • @CoreyChambersLA
    @CoreyChambersLA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Several mistakes, but honest mistakes by the pilot. The pilot had legitimate reasons for flying low for that mission. Some peacetime training missions have dangers, and they are necessary for combat readiness. Great training video to help other pilots.

  • @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248
    @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very good information...I will use it next time I fly an F-16

  • @TheFarmacySeedsNetwork
    @TheFarmacySeedsNetwork 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Glad you survived! good safety advice!

  • @pope400
    @pope400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Listening to real pilots talk only makes me realize how terribly wrong Hollywood gets these sorts of things.

  • @sixpackpilot
    @sixpackpilot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These lessons are really quite useful for this new F-16C simulator module, that I bought, as part of Eagle Dynamics DCS World flight simulator. I will remember to set my min. altitude warning to 100ft AGL (also for ridge crossings!) on my RW Altimeter after T/O, and to turn HUD de-clutter off when going back to low-level flying. Although, just released and in early-access both systems (and many others) are implemented in the F-16C module for DCS. Should help me prevent doing CFIT while checking cockpit instruments in VR.

  • @studlyhungwell5740
    @studlyhungwell5740 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    And there went my flying career.

  • @tonyHern865
    @tonyHern865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:55 when you switch the first time from dcs 1.5 to 2.5: trees want you to die

  • @raymondyee2008
    @raymondyee2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sure this video must have been shared with F-16 pilots from other nations including those from Singapore. You just can’t imagine an RSAF F-16 getting a tree strike in the jungle.

  • @30AndHatingIt
    @30AndHatingIt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe someone watching will be able to help me track something related down. Was watching some old ww2 allied fighter gun camera reels a few years back and in one of them, the fighter with the camera installed clearly strikes a good 2-3 feet of several pine trees while struggling to pull up. I remember being under the impression of wondering if the pilot survived, but then thinking “well, the footage exists so... he must have made it back”. I bookmarked it but unfortunately lost that bookmark while switching computers. Anyone have any leads on where this footage is? It was definitely on TH-cam.

  • @nostradumbass4984
    @nostradumbass4984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The tree strike seems to be at 4:00 , if you´re interested.

  • @ytlongbeach
    @ytlongbeach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    so in other words, pilot gets once in a lifetime training experience, so fire him, to be replaced by pilots without this experience. great.

    • @mike89128
      @mike89128 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't use all that experience to not hit a tree, didn't he?

    • @lukagroot7409
      @lukagroot7409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mike89128 hitting the tree was the experience you bloody idiot

    • @MPVC1
      @MPVC1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      some people don't understand...

    • @tjsbbi
      @tjsbbi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      However if it takes hitting a tree for him to learn not to turn off all the nav aids, then the rest of his education could be very expensive.

    • @MPVC1
      @MPVC1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tjsbbi Im sure this person learned their lesson and will most likely (if he was still in the Air Force) tell that story to everyone, so, not only the educational video, but the actual person who made the mistake can re assure other training pilots. This will likely reduce the amount of times a similar situation will occur drastically.

  • @Wolfkin18
    @Wolfkin18 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This gentlemen would be a great instructor because he KNOWS what happens when you fucked up and can avoid hot heads from doing the same mistake he did. Glad he got back safe.
    Vipers rule.

  • @christosvoskresye
    @christosvoskresye 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Events like this always leave me surprised the plane was not torqued into the ground.

  • @sthanstigger2328
    @sthanstigger2328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, very objectively narrated, like a good After Action Review. Without having any more info than what you say, sounds like that General has misunderstood how to learn a lesson.

    • @ravener96
      @ravener96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Guy thought he had set the warning 200ft below lower limit of 300, had actually set it 250ft below that, and even then broke through several times. This was entirely on him. Im not sure if there is even a lesson learned. Oh dont be severely negligent? Nice

    • @sthanstigger2328
      @sthanstigger2328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ravener , I agree the pilot was at fault. I’m not a pilot so if these mistakes/negligence are clear grounds for straight dismissal then i will agree with that too. However, I’ll make a “layman’s guess” that the habits that this pilot had picked up through his career were practiced by several of his colleagues as well. If so, then the question of how to prevent recurrence becomes more complicated in my mind. I believe that this sort of presentation leads to a positive learning: “if we keep doing this we can clearly get killed, so let’s all agree to change our behavior”. The next time someone screws up, they may be open to sharing that lesson too. Unfortunately when we are quick to dismiss those that screw up, it can build a culture of everyone’s immediate reaction to mistakes/negligence is to collectively cover up the incident.

  • @Make-Asylums-Great-Again
    @Make-Asylums-Great-Again 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how it cutoff at the end like the world ended.

  • @expert_fretwork
    @expert_fretwork 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just did a bit of digging on the F-16N out of curiosity. If they weren't carrier compatible because of the lack of proper hooks and undercarriages, why would the Navy fly them at all? Just curious if you can offer any insight there. I read they were used as "adversary aircraft". Does that just mean as an "enemy" fighter during training missions? The same article mentioned they didn't carry any armaments.

    • @ericbainter826
      @ericbainter826 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were not meant to operate on carriers, nor to actually shoot, so they did not need beefed up landing gear, navy tailhooks nor weapons. The TopGun school then was based in Miramar, on land. The purpose of the plane was to provide an adversary, an "enemy" fighter that looked different from the F-14s that the Navy flew, and to simulate the flight characteristics and tactics of the enemy planes (generally Soviet designed) that the Navy pilots would encounter, from the older Mig17s up through the 4th generation aircraft like Su-27 and Mig 29. Operational guns and missiles were replaced with dummy missiles and instrumentation that allowed the training dogfights to be analyzed and show the F-14 pilots what happened, so they could learn from it and do better next time.

  • @truthninja1087
    @truthninja1087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    John Deere became his new nickname.

  • @andyowens5494
    @andyowens5494 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Important lessons learned.

  • @ZedNinetySix_
    @ZedNinetySix_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How fast was he going when he hit it?

  • @factorypilot99
    @factorypilot99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I knew they did training close to the ground but I didn’t know that close!

  • @GrenadeMagnet
    @GrenadeMagnet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And for the rest of his service they called him Paul Bunyan. :)

  • @boundaryzero
    @boundaryzero 13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wonder what the pilots history was like prior to this incident? Is this a typical thing in the airforce to be punted following a serious aircraft incident like this? Ask Ret. Cpt. Chris Stricklin who, formerly of the Thunderbirds, pancaked his ship into the ground at an airshow and escaped with a sore back.

    • @WDGary
      @WDGary 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      leeveraction, Strickland didn't separate, he's a Colonel now and vice commander of the 9th Recon Wing, home of the U2 Dragon Lady fleet. Not bad after pancaking an F16.

    • @mqbitsko25
      @mqbitsko25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Stricklin was not drummed out of the service. He flew a desk for a while, but ended up as an instructor. He made a dumb mistake in not doing something they teach you on the very first day of flight school: Set your altimeter to local conditions!
      This "tree incident" is different. The whole point of the exercise is to press your luck. I would imagine that they evaluated what happened and decided not to waste all that training. If they threw everyone out who did something dumb there would be no pilots.

    • @delayed_control
      @delayed_control 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It all depends on why they commit an error. Generally you don't want to get rid of pilots after situations like those, because the more experience a pilot has, the more valuable they are as a pilot, especially if it's a rare experience. An exception would be if they have a track record of reckless behavior - but even then they would usually be terminated due to psychological evaluation even before they would get into that kind of clusterfuck. Usually.

  • @drutalero2962
    @drutalero2962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good ol block 25s.

    • @FirstDagger
      @FirstDagger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And this one is still flying.

  • @TACCOFSX
    @TACCOFSX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why would you ever declutter the altitude or speed?

  • @eiteiei4063
    @eiteiei4063 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes. Just what I was looking for.

  • @WDGary
    @WDGary 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The video ends suddenly, was that another tree strike?

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haha! No…
      I had only a 3/4" tape deck to copy this from. There was no more useful info on the original, so I stopped recording there.
      I've gotten more skills since then.
      Funny TH-cam handle, BTW.

    • @LVVideoGuy
      @LVVideoGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KutWrite When this mishap occurred, I was the "on call" video guy at Nellis. The AIB Colonel showed up with a handful (8) 3/4" Umatic tapes and asked if we could make dubs of them. Sure... so I took them in the back and just by pure chance, I grabbed the mishap airplane tape first and stuck it in the machine. Not knowing anything about the mishap and watching this sortie "AS IT HAPPENED".......
      Later on, when this pilot was required to make the "confession", we produced it, it was shot in our studio at Nellis. I edited this video and it was sent out to the entire fighter community so everyone could learn from his mistakes. He was returned to flying status afterwards.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVVideoGuy: Thanks for those details.
      I got one of your dubs at TOPGUN and filled multiple instructor requests for dubs... also in 3/4".

  • @ThisFinalHandle
    @ThisFinalHandle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What branch of the military are you in now?

  • @orangebottle9657
    @orangebottle9657 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He was ordered to make this video or lose his wings? And they still took his wings. That's some BS right there. Mistakes are the most valuable learning experiences. He took ownership of it too.

  • @348frank348
    @348frank348 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP tree. He was a good tree

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Messy squirrel parts inside a nice clean engine.

  • @frankmccroskey294
    @frankmccroskey294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wow!! All these wrong assumptions from an F16 pilot? Why would you not ALWAYS want to see a numerical.value of your altitude!?!?!?!?!

    • @DragonRoco
      @DragonRoco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For low level flying there are quite a few reasons. You don't know the heights of the peaks, so referencing crossing altitudes to it won't work. The radar altimeter only tells you your current altitude with respect to the terrain, not the altitude to terrain infront, so even knowing the altitude wouldn't have alerted him to the approaching ridge line. However, having it on would tell him just how low he is crossing the previous ridgelines, letting him make a mental picture of a safe height.
      It probably isn't a factor here, but having a decluttered HUD would help with visual scans for obstacles (powerlines, windmills, other narrow items) that could be masked by the altitude tape.

    • @AllisterCaine
      @AllisterCaine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As said, it is not accurate on ridgelines, and overreliance on such tech supports overconfidence and complacency. Know the limits of the system and use your mk1 eyeball.

    • @dayspoiler4608
      @dayspoiler4608 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      in such hilly terrain an altitude figure basically means nothing

    • @LVVideoGuy
      @LVVideoGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And.. if you have something in your HUD during an Air to Air engagement, where you normally would be high up... means it could block your vision...

  • @CJR505
    @CJR505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sucks they took his wings. Mistakes were made, but these experiences made him a better pilot. Terrible call taking his wings.

  • @uruiamnot
    @uruiamnot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pro tip: Coffins are made of... trees.

  • @DAAI741
    @DAAI741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:40 you can hear his pain

  • @ascherlafayette8572
    @ascherlafayette8572 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be more scared of being grounded for life.

  • @iwontreplybacklol7481
    @iwontreplybacklol7481 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Title of video should be "How to become a desk jockey"

  • @welshpete12
    @welshpete12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry for the pilot if they stopped him flying as reported !

  • @istra70
    @istra70 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moral of the story is - leave USAF as soon you get your wings. Do not wait for that one mistake after thousands of hours flying - to lose your wings......

  • @oriorda9470
    @oriorda9470 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This ridge hiding technique was perfected by UK Buccaneers at Top Gun when they proved undefeatable by all adversaries through *extremely* low flying. Legend has it they chose to go a little higher than their preferred height because they were throwing up sand trails which could be detected by CAP pilots. We're talking about going as 'high' as 50 feet!

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. Not at TOPGUN. The hard deck is much higher than 50 feet.

    • @oriorda9470
      @oriorda9470 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KutWrite Maybe I got the name wrong... senior moment. Red Flag most probably. I can assure you Buccaneers were flying at 50 feet on occasions. US fighters positioned themselves to shoot as the Buccaneers rose over ridges only to find the Buccaneer pilots were inverting as they rose over the ridge and went right side up after passing. Not a single Bucc was downed over the entire exercise.

    • @smokingspitfire1197
      @smokingspitfire1197 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oriorda9470My instructor was one of these RAF pilots, he remembers the Americans being told outright that if they tried to follow the Buccaneers and survived, they’d be court martialed. the Buccaneer has blown boundary layer control to assist with low level flying

  • @undeterminedchannel
    @undeterminedchannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pilot who got tree striked, forced to record this video in order to keep flying, but this video was ironically the one that made him lose his flying privilege. Oof

  • @1castellp
    @1castellp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's okay mom. I know a fighter jet pilot that runs into trees just like you.

  • @1compaqedr8
    @1compaqedr8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder what this pilot is doing now after all these years.

  • @beeter3588
    @beeter3588 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought they committed war crimes against a tree

  • @thirdyiii9649
    @thirdyiii9649 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The title i think must be "How to destroy F-16in a matter of a second decision"

  • @pauldavisschlichting3726
    @pauldavisschlichting3726 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!

  • @bsc4344
    @bsc4344 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eh? It ends like he hit another tree line?

  • @shawnmartin2131
    @shawnmartin2131 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its Exactly that kind of flying that cost the Goose to lose his life,almost lost Maverick as well...

  • @sbains560
    @sbains560 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you lived
    It’s a dangerous job but someone has to do it

  • @StillAliveAndKicking_
    @StillAliveAndKicking_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The general is a jerk. Everyone makes mistakes, that pilot was unlikely to make the same mistake. And how much did it cost to train him?

    • @sjuvanet
      @sjuvanet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WalksWithTurkeys *MILL - E - YONS*

    • @shadowcarthage
      @shadowcarthage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah especially since the video itself was how he was supposed to keep his wings. and lets face it I think the both harassment of having to make the video and the fact he probably scared himself shitless when it happened is enough that he would never do anything like that again so pulling his wings is like saying I know you have been punished but guess what you are getting another even worse one now oh and go fuck yourself.

    • @zoli11
      @zoli11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, most pilots don't fly into terrain, this was not "just a mistake". He broke the rules and lost control in a no-pressure situation. There must be consequences to breaking rules, so people take them seriously - especially in the military where someone's recklessness can easily cost a fortune and get other people killed.

  • @shahzadnazir9303
    @shahzadnazir9303 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just badluck , no worries , enjoy new life .

  • @oceanhome2023
    @oceanhome2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the navy if you run your ship aground you will never command another ship . It absolutely doesn’t matter if it wasn’t your fault . That’s just the way it is !

    • @dayspoiler4608
      @dayspoiler4608 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      what happens to those destroyer captains who run their ships into cargo freighters even though they have the best radar systems on the planet?

    • @jschiffel
      @jschiffel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.stripes.com/news/how-would-admiral-nimitz-have-been-dealt-with-in-today-s-navy-1.102689

  • @scottjurrjens8954
    @scottjurrjens8954 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Think this is a good piece of evidence against the whole notion that the F16 is one of (if not the number one) most fragile fighter in the world...

  • @TheMarioMen1
    @TheMarioMen1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Makes me want to be an f-16 driver rip
    Also ya know why Wings are made on Velcro nametags? Because they’re just as easy to rip off 🎊

    • @braeeee_
      @braeeee_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You won't be allowed anywhere near an F-16 Fighting Falcon by calling the job an "F16 driver"

    • @Killdozer-do4mc
      @Killdozer-do4mc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BraeJordan04 pilots tend to call each other "drivers", thats just a slang. OP is ahead if he already knows his slang

    • @braeeee_
      @braeeee_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Killdozer-do4mc yes, but I highly doubt he was using slang pilot terminology in a TH-cam comment section. Plus, you refer to the occupation as a "pilot" not a driver. You don't ask to be a receptionist and then say "I wanna be a desk sitter"

    • @Reeeetard
      @Reeeetard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@braeeee_ except, it's been common knowledge that the men and women behind the stick refer to themselves as Drivers. "I'm an Eagle Driver, she's a Viper Driver, He Drives a Super Hornet." Even 1984s RedDawn "LtCol Tanner introduced himself as an Eagle Driver. This isn't secret knowledge.

    • @braeeee_
      @braeeee_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Reeeetard at no point did I say it was

  • @mirandaab972
    @mirandaab972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most GTA thing I heard.

  • @Prototheria
    @Prototheria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do I get the feeling that part of this pilots punishment was to narrate this video?

    • @aibpresto
      @aibpresto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read the description, that is the exact case.

  • @Iowarail
    @Iowarail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did he make Col.??

  • @estrogenizedbird9161
    @estrogenizedbird9161 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn’t have had his wings taken! Stupid mistake yeah but holy shit that’s some legendary type shit. Dude fucking crashed into a tree

  • @treelonmusk8324
    @treelonmusk8324 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So do you think this guy got in trouble?

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Read the description and click "show more." The details I know are there.

  • @snakerstran9101
    @snakerstran9101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    And of course in the USAF way, the solution was to write up a novel size set of new regulations.

  • @alphalunamare
    @alphalunamare 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely shit hot good advice :-)

  • @bradbutcher3984
    @bradbutcher3984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shit'll buff out.

  • @MattH-wg7ou
    @MattH-wg7ou 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why in the world would you declutter airspeed and especially the pitch ladder and altitude from your HUD especially at LOW ALTITUDE?! That just seems lile bad judgement to me.
    The pitch ladder is supposed to be used for ridge crossings. When the ridge approaches 5 degrees above your waterline is when you are supposed to start your pull.

  • @LVVideoGuy
    @LVVideoGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I edited this original video...

  • @ancientmonotheism5118
    @ancientmonotheism5118 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok. I'll remember that the next time I fire up my FSX

  • @alainbellemare2168
    @alainbellemare2168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    his call sign is now ,,the beaver ,,

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha!
      That was Jerry Mathers, though.
      A callsign would simply be "Beaver" or better, "Beav."

  • @travisk5589
    @travisk5589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the last time that this guy piloted a government owned aircraft?

  • @IHWKR
    @IHWKR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He gets his wings taken. Maintainers that would mess up this bad go to prison.

  • @Tottleminerftw
    @Tottleminerftw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait is that a bird?

  • @bingolio
    @bingolio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lucky SOB!