Wow very extensive and well explained. I usually have a hard time following most tutorials because they assume you understand everything so they lose me.
Over what cable or line are you sending your Main Stream Mix to? Is it Dante? XLR? I think its pretty awesome that you have changes that are being made on the fly FOH for Mics or mutes etc that automatically effect the live stream.
Pitch fix works great. It is NOT autotune. It works on an entirely different premise. If you treat it as it's own thing versus as an autotune replacement it would likely yield tou better results. It takes a good singer and makes them better. If your singer is way off it will do you no good.
Would suggest adding room mics positioned at FOH as well to blend with your crowds for a even better room sound for your streams. MXU has a great video about them!
We just upgraded to an Allen & Heath SQ7 and are still learning its ins and out. This is our first digital mixing console so quite the learning curve. I'd love to see a video/tutorial on the sq series mixers, etc. I've always loved your content.
Set your vox comp to a medium attack and fast to medium release for articulation and character. On the vox bus set a fast attack and medium release for the control. Promise you'll enjoy the outcome.
This tutorial is gold. I’m mixing our services and livestream on a WING and the room acoustics are difficult to treat so we’ve been trying to come up with creative ways to get the mix in a good place and translate that to the livestream. I was looking for a breakdown just like this for signal flow and leveling inspiration and I’ve got so many ideas now - thanks man!
So you don't even worry about mixing separately for the livestream beyond the speaker and crowd mics? That would actually make things so much easier and less stressful. We're a small team and we are fully mixing our stream separately. Need to stop that now lol
Thanks for this tutorial 🙂! imho this is a rather complex setup , especially if you have less experienced foh volunteers😅. I ended up with a similar setup by letting a very experienced studio audio engineer setting up our board. Way too much compression, complex bus setups etc. My background is many years of live mixing with analog boards, started to use the X32 9 years ago, now started to use the Wing. My approach is....setup your board as if you would have an analog board with limited resources, then start applying subtle processing but don't take it to the "studio level". Mixing live imho is completely different to mixing and mastering a track. With this in mind I've setup our board up as follows. - Do all processing on the channel itself, no additional bus tricks (I rather fix stuff at the source channel). - Use the 1st 8 busses to group stuff if needed to be able to send it over to the P16's (e.g. drums,, fx's). - Use DCA's to level a group of channels. - Send the channels and busses to one of the mains as live stream out. (With Sends on Fader, decrease / increase the amount of signal per channel, it will keep this delta compared to the main mix. Add compression on this live stream master). Open for advise/feedback from anyone 🙂
Do firmware updates come with baptism and conversion or something? Why is it that the only people that use this console are houses of worship? Do bands or studios not believe in it? 🤣
Wow great video. We are upgrading from behringer x32 to behringer wing in the next few weeks. A little nervous maybe but anxious to get started. Maybe contacting u for help.
Thank you for doing this dude, I just got hired at church and they have a WING. I'm migrating from Pro Tools so a bit nervous with the layout and I/O. Cheers!
We are transitioning to one person doing the house and livestream on the wing. I am lost, we previously used two audio guys. I am trying to convert over but probaley over thinking it. A little help please. Do you guys come out to churches to train as well.
Jake, I’m looking for more info on the built in vocal tuning. You just said it’s average. Maybe a demo of it in use, or if you recommend offloading the processing to a computer running WavesTune on a DAW?
So I appreciate the quality and in depth teaching of your videos. But the pricing of your courses is really high and excludes some churches from accessing your resources.
Hi Jake, I manage the sound board at our church and I am in great need of your help to get a Dante avb connection going. I will love it if we can get in contact and possibly set some session to make it posible! Please let me know.
For saving scenes, my first scene is called Sunday and I just overwrite that one with the mix after practice. My start scene is down at like scene 20 to reduce the chance of accidentally overwriting it.
A quick question, how are you getting the individual channels from a electric drum? We are using Roland VAD series drum and we get all the channels in a stereo mode not individually. Just wondering how you managed to get it separately.
Depends on your drum module. Cheaper modules generally only give you a stereo out, higher end models give you individual outs. If you have individual outs available the one thing you need to check in the manual is wether or not they are balanced outputs or not. If they aren’t then you will need a DI for them, if they are balanced you just need TRS to XLR cables.
They are using Electric drums and probably going direct with their bass and Electric Guitars. The loudest thing on stage is probably the acustic Guitar
Wow very extensive and well explained. I usually have a hard time following most tutorials because they assume you understand everything so they lose me.
Over what cable or line are you sending your Main Stream Mix to? Is it Dante? XLR? I think its pretty awesome that you have changes that are being made on the fly FOH for Mics or mutes etc that automatically effect the live stream.
Pitch fix works great. It is NOT autotune. It works on an entirely different premise. If you treat it as it's own thing versus as an autotune replacement it would likely yield tou better results. It takes a good singer and makes them better. If your singer is way off it will do you no good.
can yyou buy waves plugins and put them on a usb and add them to the wing, or even auto tune
What monitor are you using to view Ableton?
Awesome video. Thank you for sharing..
Would suggest adding room mics positioned at FOH as well to blend with your crowds for a even better room sound for your streams. MXU has a great video about them!
I second this! ^ Once we added house/room mics at FOH, our stream mix improved drastically.
But that may be implying MxU might know more… wouldn’t want that. 😝
Thank you very much. Very helpful!
awesome, that's great. you do good on that
Why did you go with a matrix over a post-fader mixbus for your livestream?
What is the setup to record a live cover or song step by step in fl studio
Could you do same video on presonus studiolive mixer
How did you setup your drum buss is it pre, post or subgroup and why?
Fantastic
Do you mix IEMs from same console? Or you have separate mix for IEMs. Regarding tot the pitch correction using on channel strip.
That's great 👍
🙏🏾🤲🏾
Learn big time and more love from Uganda 🇺🇬
Meyer pa? But a behringer wing? Dang should of balanced that budget and gone yamaha or if possible sd11 digico
We just upgraded to an Allen & Heath SQ7 and are still learning its ins and out. This is our first digital mixing console so quite the learning curve. I'd love to see a video/tutorial on the sq series mixers, etc. I've always loved your content.
If you move your iem busses to be in the first 8 busses, you could send other busses to them (e.g. vocal verb to a vocalist's iem mix)
Parabéns, abraços do Brasil!
Set your vox comp to a medium attack and fast to medium release for articulation and character. On the vox bus set a fast attack and medium release for the control. Promise you'll enjoy the outcome.
This tutorial is gold. I’m mixing our services and livestream on a WING and the room acoustics are difficult to treat so we’ve been trying to come up with creative ways to get the mix in a good place and translate that to the livestream. I was looking for a breakdown just like this for signal flow and leveling inspiration and I’ve got so many ideas now - thanks man!
So you don't even worry about mixing separately for the livestream beyond the speaker and crowd mics? That would actually make things so much easier and less stressful. We're a small team and we are fully mixing our stream separately. Need to stop that now lol
That needs 2 mixing consoles right?
@@feugo22 no just one console. You create a separate mix solely for Livestream and you can mix that independently from the main FOH mix.
Thanks for this tutorial 🙂! imho this is a rather complex setup , especially if you have less experienced foh volunteers😅. I ended up with a similar setup by letting a very experienced studio audio engineer setting up our board. Way too much compression, complex bus setups etc. My background is many years of live mixing with analog boards, started to use the X32 9 years ago, now started to use the Wing. My approach is....setup your board as if you would have an analog board with limited resources, then start applying subtle processing but don't take it to the "studio level". Mixing live imho is completely different to mixing and mastering a track.
With this in mind I've setup our board up as follows.
- Do all processing on the channel itself, no additional bus tricks (I rather fix stuff at the source channel).
- Use the 1st 8 busses to group stuff if needed to be able to send it over to the P16's (e.g. drums,, fx's).
- Use DCA's to level a group of channels.
- Send the channels and busses to one of the mains as live stream out. (With Sends on Fader, decrease / increase the amount of signal per channel, it will keep this delta compared to the main mix. Add compression on this live stream master).
Open for advise/feedback from anyone 🙂
Can you help me? I want to know how to turn on the back lights on the beringer wing
Do firmware updates come with baptism and conversion or something? Why is it that the only people that use this console are houses of worship? Do bands or studios not believe in it? 🤣
Wow great video. We are upgrading from behringer x32 to behringer wing in the next few weeks. A little nervous maybe but anxious to get started. Maybe contacting u for help.
I'd rather use buses for live streaming just to have control over what's being sent online vs in house.
Church name? I would to love assist an online service to check how well it sounds
Am Daniel From Nigeria and i will like to be in your class but am finanically down
thanks, im on the tech team for my church and I appreciate you posting this!
Just awesome, thanks a lot for sharing this
12:33 minutes..true!!!!
Can you make a tutorial showing how to multi record using yamaha TF5 mixer in logic?
I bet you can't wait for acoustic drums 😅
Great video!
Thank you for doing this dude, I just got hired at church and they have a WING. I'm migrating from Pro Tools so a bit nervous with the layout and I/O. Cheers!
We are transitioning to one person doing the house and livestream on the wing. I am lost, we previously used two audio guys. I am trying to convert over but probaley over thinking it. A little help please. Do you guys come out to churches to train as well.
Jake, I’m looking for more info on the built in vocal tuning. You just said it’s average. Maybe a demo of it in use, or if you recommend offloading the processing to a computer running WavesTune on a DAW?
So I appreciate the quality and in depth teaching of your videos. But the pricing of your courses is really high and excludes some churches from accessing your resources.
Hi Jake, I manage the sound board at our church and I am in great need of your help to get a Dante avb connection going. I will love it if we can get in contact and possibly set some session to make it posible! Please let me know.
No more LV1?
Different church
The wing is superior. Cant you tell by those vocals?!
@@timjaycox7234 I don't know if it was the the eq or de-esser or both (and reverb), but the vocal sounds like it's phasing around 25th minute.
@@JJPP-c2g worst vocals I’ve heard in a long time. 😳
For saving scenes, my first scene is called Sunday and I just overwrite that one with the mix after practice. My start scene is down at like scene 20 to reduce the chance of accidentally overwriting it.
Quick question: which DAW are you running your multitracks through?
Hey Jake how do you run monitor mix? We run all wireless in ear and use bus for those. Are we doing it wrong? :)
We have a seperate operator for live stream so our live stream bus needs to be prefader so what the house does will not affect me
To save on DSP you could just pitch correct on the vocal bus.
Great to see Harry Kane doing mix tutorials..
What happend to the LV1 i forget to ask :)
Awesome lessons thank you so much ❤❤❤
great example！ thank you!
Can I have snapshot please
Great video!
Awesome video!
Thank You. Well done
A quick question, how are you getting the individual channels from a electric drum? We are using Roland VAD series drum and we get all the channels in a stereo mode not individually. Just wondering how you managed to get it separately.
Depends on your drum module. Cheaper modules generally only give you a stereo out, higher end models give you individual outs. If you have individual outs available the one thing you need to check in the manual is wether or not they are balanced outputs or not. If they aren’t then you will need a DI for them, if they are balanced you just need TRS to XLR cables.
Do you have another mixer for monitor? Seams like you used all the bus sends 😊
Looks like they are using p16s for the rest of their in ears.
Thanks for this video. Can you share on how you get separate channels from the electric kit.
Also what kit is that? And is it possible to get separate channels of the kit on any electric drum kit
How's your PA stereo? How is that set up?
The stage noise is so low, how did you guys achieve less bleed in your vocal microphones?
In-ears and expensive mics ig
They are using Electric drums and probably going direct with their bass and Electric Guitars. The loudest thing on stage is probably the acustic Guitar