Stranger Things Season 5 Update! (First Look at Vecna)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- We have our first look at Vecna/Henry Creel/001 in Stranger Things Season 5 as well as... Holly Wheeler? It looks like we could be getting some dream sequences/visions or potentially flashbacks with these two in this final season. Plus, are we heading BACK to the Creel House? Find out my thoughts on this news now...
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What about the blanks in the dissapearence of ___________ Wheeler.... the blank spaces in the video lines up with Holly Jolly Wheeler
@@theoldvalyrians6448Jolly💀
i think that KAREN is the sister of HENRY!!! She dont die that day he kills all the family !!
My Prediction! Stranger things Vol 1 (1-3) May 2025 (Cliffhanger), 1 month later The First Shadows Hits theaters, then month later hits Netflix, then month or so later vol 2 (4-6) (Cliffhanger), I think Linda Hamilton is playing an Older Holly Wheeler. After she disappears as a child (She Returns as Adult Holly) and there will be some revelation of Will and Time Travel inheriting it from his connection to Vecna, then By Christmas 2025 Vol (7-8). I also think that Papa is older Henry, as Papas wrist are always covered up and they have the Exact Same Mannerisms. Ex. (Henry) Well Well look who finally decided to join us. then later (Papa), Well Well, looks like we have a new Winner. Papa is totally 001/Henry/Vecna. Also The Vecna at the end of Season 4 could be Much Older ( 1000 yrs) older than "50's dressed Henry" of Season 5 (who has not even done the things of season 4. Time travel is weird. Maybe Holly is Henry/Papas Wife and Vecna is Nancy and Mike's Brother in law and they have a Child together... but who could it be???? Since we know Papa's father ww2 story and its motivation for papa, maybe Will is Papa's Father at the beginning of it all (ie the First Shadow). food for thought
Gonna be wild when we watch S5 and think, "Oh yeah, i remember seeing this set picture"
You read my mind.
For real 😂 also seeing the actual scene and being like “OMG this is what was happening in that picture!” but when the set picture was posted none of us understood what was going on lol
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING FROM LIKE THE VERY BEGINNING OF THEM SPOILING PHOTOS HELP LOL
I am not ready for Stranger things end 😢
I think Vecna appeared as his human self in a hallucination to lure Holly in, because we know that Vecna’s able to appear as many other people like Billy and Lucas, so he might’ve appeared as his human form to lure Holly in maybe she vanishes, so I think the second episode will be titled the vanishing of Holly Wheeler
True
there will be a death beacuse og her
Honestly, I am all for more human Vecna. Jamie Campbell Bower is extremely talented, and the prosthetics can hide some of his expressions.
*6:54 don’t forget that in Season 3 Holly sees the trees moving (physical mind Flayer in the woods) from the feeris wheel
And that look in her eyes!
She also saw the things going on in season 1
The episode in which Holly Wheeler saw the flickering lights and presuming the demogorgon in the wall was called Holly Jolly so perhaps the title was actually a distinct reference to Holly Wheeler and what seemed like the demogorgon was actually Vecna and she could be slightly connected to the hive mind. This would explain why she noticed the trees moving by the spider monster in season 3 and why she was at the window when the upside was bleeding into Hawkins because she is naturally drawn to the hive mind. Just a theory.
I have another theory. In season 2 eleven watches the 1931 Frankenstein where a little girl meets the monster and tries to befriend it by offering a flower.This scene here between Henry/Vecna/001 and presuming Holly wheeler could be a reference to this Frankenstein scene as Holly does not seem scared or worried here. This would make Vecna seem as a Frankenstein monster which would make sense due to him being raised by a doctor and he also becomes stronger with each kill like how Frankenstein’s monster is made from dead bodies. However I could just be over complicating it.😂
Karen is definitely hiding something, considering she has her own character poster, AND it’s with the Creel house which makes it weirder. I feel like Vecna put Holly in a trance and she doesn’t know it, and Vecna somehow manages to take her. It’s even weirder though that Holly’s at the Creel house in a vision, crazy.
Yes, I think Karen has some king of connection. Hmm, maybe that's why she didn't want Mike looking for Will? She knows something.
@@wisteela yes that’s exactly what I’m thinking
, In season 1 she always stresses to Mike and Nancy they can talk to her. She knows stuff, she and Holly will play a bigger part in Season 5. In Season 1 I think the Duffers wanted to make Karen seem like she is trying to be an over bearing parent or that she knows more than we give her credit and she is wondering if her kids are going through that. I think that is why in season 3 she was linked to Billy. I wondered why he warned her to stay away from him…. Karen is going to have an interesting story in Season 5
@@shannonwhitfield8943 yes!
What if it's not holly but young karen
What are YOUR Season 5 predictions based on these pictures?
Honestly I think Vecna can somehow shape-shift into his human self and then he can manipulate Holly thinking he is this very nice man but actually he is Vecna OR he if filming the last episode and the gang somehow got him to be human and removed all his memories from his past
Holly is the one who disappeared
I believe Holly will disappear, and Karen Wheeler will be in the hospital because of it. He revealed as human and took her.
@@karenduncan2478 The only reason why I can't see Holly go missing in season 5 is not only will that make her the main character and focus but she never really had any focus in other seasons. Plus I thought Will and El were suppose to be the main focus. Holly going missing only affects the Wheeler family directly. If Joyce, Jonathan, Mike or Hopper went missing, then it would affect either Will or El directly, so I'm confused. I hope their focuses don't get minimized. Both Will and El have a direct link to the UD and Vecna.
@pllandstfan I don't think she will be a big focus. It maybe a filler episode. They will go back to when Henry will be young and all too. While back they showed a picture of Nancy standing by a door, pictures from the hospital. Someone maybe hurt I think it's Karen.But like I said they also going to focus telling Henry/ Vecna story. Also I don't know I am just guessing at this. It's fun to theorize too.
these new BTS photos raises more questions. Also, i cant believe we still have no BTS photos of Linda Hamilton!
i think they are just trying to be really careful bc the actress isn’t allowed to say anything about her character
Also in season 3, holly is the only one who notices the monster running through the trees when she’s on the Ferris wheel while the parents are looking at the fireworks..
OMG I JUMPED AT THE NOTIFACTION I LOVE VECNA
Such a great villain! Can’t wait to see his return this season
Great villain, extraordinarily talented actor. I’m all for more human Vecna.
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Why do you love Vecna 😡 he's a sick monster who wants to kill El
I truly think a good quarter of the season is gonna be Vecna flashbacks.
I think the reason Henry/Vecna is wearing more 50's style-clothes is because putting henry/vecna in a colorful 80's style jumpsuit would be pretty distracting considering the fact he's a child murdering villain. 😂
BAHAH this is so funny 😭
I think Vecna might use Holly to mess with Nancy and make the vision he said to her true, i think he'll use less direct violence to damage the group, i.e., using Holly, showing visions of Eddie to Dustin, using the mindflayer to mess with Will again, manipulating Max's state to hurt Lucas, hurting Mike to separate El ect. Showing things that haven't happened to divide the groups and pairing and take them one by one🤕🤕
This most definitely makes sense, bc that’s exactly what he was doing to Max
I’m probably the most excited for seeing what happens in that shed where Dustin says “Steve you need to run!!”
honestly i think its will saying it bc of how deep his voice is, but im excited for it either way !!
You didn’t entertain the idea of time travel. Henry came from the past. That’s why the weird suit.
Bingo
WE ARE SO CLOSE GUYS!!! THIS IS SO EXCITING, THANKS FOR THE UPDATES LOVE YOUR CONTENT!!
Close?? Still like a year/year and a half away from seeing it ha
@@garrybrown2627 That’s close😂
people saw someone in a girl scout costume a few weeks/months ago on set carrying cookies, maybe holly is giving out cookies and stumbles upon vecna in the creel house?
I sorta think they’re making a reference to Poltergeist 2 with the visual of Henry and Holly.
Love your vids keep up the good work
Bro your videos are so awesome!
Thank ya so much for your support! Big fan of your S3 poster profile pic 🔥
@@FilmStocked your welcome! Yeah I always go between season three and four being my favorite because there vibes are so different. Season three is my most rewatched but season four is probably my a favorite if I’d have to say it’s just so hard for me to watch because of the last episode.
@@JosiahBondy 3 is the most rewatchable to me for sure!
It's Vecna appearing to Holly Wheeler as Henry Creel in a dream state. This is my guess because Frank Darabont is coming aboard as a guest director for 2 episodes. Frank Darabont has directed films based on Stephen King works, has been a screenwriter for numerous films including "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors", and helped develop and executive produce "The Walking Dead".
And he also directed The Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile
there’s also that scene in S3 where they’re on the ferris wheel and the big creature is running through the forest, and holly points out the trees to her mom but karen says to watch the fireworks. i always thought that was interesting
I'm all for Vecna doing Pennywise stuff, he better say, "Hiya Holly"
"If you lived here you'd be home by now"
I think Holly will get kidnapped by Vecna and the group who will go find ger in the upside down would consist of Jonathan, Steve, Nancy and Dustin....
Why this will happen because it makes sense...
Well I'm not 100 percent sure🤔
I SCREAMED WHEN I GOT THW NOTIFICATION MY MA THOUGHT I WAS HURT😪 IM EXCITED TO SEE VECNAS COMEBACK THOUGH
I AM SO HERE FOR THIS 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
We are generally assuming that it’s holly. It’s very well possible that it could be Karen way back in the past , having encountered Vecna when he was still in bits , human. We cannot overlook the fact that Karen has her own poster with the Creel house in season 4. So it could be either , Karen or Holly.
Anyone really. But with so many rumors I've been reading lately, I'm just losing hope.
What if she is a young karen wheeler?
Karen is older than vecna that's nearly impossible
It could be possible but the clothes don't fit the time for Karen. Karen went to school with Henry via the play. She was older then Henry.
Loving the Stranger Things 5 updates keep them coming 👍
I am going to see the first last shadow idk this Friday in London!
Be sure to leak everything 😂
The first shadow
It just keeps getting more awesome. Could they be a box of roller boots? Yes, I think it is Holly that goes missing. Seems most likely.
I don't know about anyone else but personally I think season 5 will have a huge dragon that everyone will have to fight. That painting will made in season 4 just gives me huge dragon vibes for season 5
That would be sooooooooo crazy if Nell Fisher did play Henry Creel's little sister or Virginia Creel 😱😱😱
I can’t wait for season 5. I’ve been waiting for so long 😭
Henry was human in 1979. That's hardly "way back when" in the timeline of the show. This "scene" gives strong Poltergeist vibes.
The main villain is the shadow monster.. not Vecna. You just wait and see (:
I love your videos ❤
nell fisher could maybe be playing as young alice since she lived in the creel house since people were saying karen wheeler could be alice since her eyes were still there and since karen had her own poster in season 4
These pictures remind me of the scenes with the old man from Poltergeist.
0:00 “somehow verna returned” does nobody remember when he disappeared at the end of s4e9 instead of dying or smthn? 😭😭
Can't wait for next year bro love this show.
I had a dream about Vecna, he got me
Remember Edie said in the first episode of season 4 they all thought they killed vecna but he said he came back missing his left arm an left eye
you know they havent had any hints toward it but i think that a hydra could take part in the season it ios a mythological dragon and i keep seeing little aspecs rowards it
Maybe he’s using Holly for whatever he wanted to use Eleven for? That’s the only reason I could see making her visions not scary but nice and colorful ect. To win her over and do something for him.
Food for thought...
They said season 5 was going to do a full circle back to S1...all the kids are older now, Holly is one of the few if only characters that would fit Will around the time he went missing in s1.
I know Will is going to have a significant role but what if Holly gets taken like Will back in S1? Will was the only one as far as we know who survived the upside down for like a week. Maybe Will will have to remember how he survived so Holly will survive.
I was so excited when I saw Jamie Campbell Bower And Nell Fisher as the new and approve Holly Wheeler on the set of Stranger Things season 5 😮😮😮
Imagine after the previews of stranger things in the first episode of season 5 after it show that Vecna is gone a flashback to Eddie he wakes up and runs over to the creel house to help Vecna and then sees Vecna fall through the window and helps him leave where he fell
IM SO EXCITED!!! AHHHHH
The Vanishing of Holly Wheeler!!!!
I'm glad that Karen, Holly and Ted will have more of a role
Pls someone tell me about max did she wake up 😢
I reckon Hollys getting abducted this season, and that Will us ultimately going to be the one to save her. It would be a perfect way to wrap up his arc. Kinda like how Rocket saved those raccoons in gotg vol 3. In this scene specifically, I reckon Vecnas getting inside Hollys head and posing as a regular person in order to abduct her, for what reason, I do not know. Exciting times!
I can't wait for season 5 it's so exciting
So I have a theory. Henry said to Eleven in the lab in season 4 that the people he killed weren’t dead and they were still with him right? When El was spinning the bottle before Hop went in her room she went into Max’s head and couldn’t find her. My bet is that Max’s consciousness is in Vecna’s head and they will have to go into his head and find Max before they kill him or else she won’t wake up from her coma.
If you see Henry Creel in a human form out in Hawkins, we can assume it’s some kind of dream/psychic vision sequence. Not really a spoiler, as it doesn’t tell us anything about the plot. For example, whose dream/trance is it? Is this Holly in a trance, or somebody else’s dream/trance and seeing Henry talking to Holly?
I’m getting nightmare on elm street vibes from this holly in pigtails and Henry looking like Freddy in normal attire. 🤔
I am so excited
What if its like the blackphone. I haven’t really watched the blackphone but yk how the kidnapper like dropped the groceries and like the kid helped him maybe vecna is pretending to be a normal person and asking holly question or something and tells her to go with him and like does something to her.
This is probably a pretty stupid angle with seemingly throw away information but wasn’t it Holly’s light toy they used to communicate between worlds? And then Holly’s crayons to draw out Max’s vision of the creel house? Almost like she’s the go between for Vecna and the gang, subtle hints that she’s there for communication to the upside down. That with her seeing the creatures/ the snowing line/ the focus on the Wheeler’s when the ‘earthquake’ hit, feels like it might be significant in some way. And the Alice in wonderland/ rabbit hints.
What if Holly has a similar situation to Will? Maybe Vecna takes her to the upside down? The first episode of the show is called “The vanishing of will byers” Now the first episode of season 4 is “the vanishing of _____(holly) wheeler” Why would vanishing mean anything different this time?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRR vecna is in hawkings BUT just showing himself in this way....
Maybe it’s the vision that Nancy got playing.
I think Vecna is going to make himself more friendly looking and choose holly since she is the youngest to have a connection to everyone so it makes her easier to manipulate and gather information about the gang from
4:59 Does anyone know where I can find these pictures?
I just now thought of something, Jamie Campbell Bower would make a damn good #Dracula . 1:38
(Edit: Ok… I just found out, he played “Caius” from Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 2. But, hey! At least as Dracula he won’t sparkle in daylight! 😂)
Well Henry's look is giving serial killer vibes specially Jeffrey Dalhmer .. Gave me chills 😬😶
If we think there's an episode with Holly's name in the title, he could be Vecnaing her.
Hmmm I think it’s Holly that goes missing!! Love this update.
I forget if I saw this in one of your videos or if I’m making it up but doesn’t Karen go to the hospital?? It could be for holly
Tbh holly looks like a girls scout
I low-key think Holly Wheeler is going to vanish in Stranger Things season 5 or maybe even Karen
maybe he wheeler that vanishes could be in a flashback
We still need a look at Erica Sinclair in Stranger Things season 5
So true!!!!
According to what I've heard, she won't be for season 5 or will she?
@@imaxischerhangus3578 She was definitely in the cast photo that was posted back in January. I'm actually more concerned about Will and Eleven.
Steve’s last moments I always wanted to have 6 nuggets I didn’t realize I had them this whole time
The outfit Nell is wearing doesn't look like an 80's outfit. Looks more late 60's or 70's to me. Something like they wore on the Brady Bunch.
He’s dressed in 50’s fashion.
Is the filming locations in Atlanta? I’m in the UK and I’m booked the stranger things tour in Atlanta for this July ❤️🙏🏻
Is Holly Wheeler wearing a Girlscout uniform?
If will gains powers then he can team up with eleven to save max and holly
I'm just hoping that both Will and Eleven will still be important in season 5.
Maybe it's a young Karen wheeler?
STRANGER THINGS!! I’m going to see the stage play tomorrow!!!!!!!
Your so lucky
So the big question is, why is vecna going after Holly? Now, im going off that the new actress is playing holly. If she isnt playing holly,im calling it now, she will be karen as a kid. But once again going off that she is holly. And I have 3 theories. 1. Vecna kidnaps her to get 11 to make a move and set her up. 2. Vecna figures out his sister didn't die and that she is karen wheeler. So it's easy to put her kid in a Trans. 3. karen is #2. Vecna figures that out so he captures holly to get to karen.
She might be playing young Karen wheeler😳
“ why the wheelers ?“ like it’s a good question but i think it’s bcs vecna knows well that by targeting the wheelers he will get MIKE , nd if he got MIKE ..he got the heart of the party as whole ..will , el and everyone else
I can believe the new actress is replacing Holly and that she will have a bigger role. But I just can't see her being the main lead for season 5. Not only will that take away focus from the main characters from season 1 except Nancy and Mike ( and I thought season 5 was suppose to be about them ). Has the story and main focus shifted from Will and Eleven to now Holly? I'm really getting worried. I was really looking forward to both Will and Eleven being the main leads for season 5.
@@pllandstfan ndeed ! I can’t see her taking a big role in the last season nd I think that wouldn’t be possible bcs the duffers said they will focus again on the main party members .. is they did otherwise, im afraid the tv show will be a random mess .we need the answers abt el nd will nd their relationship with the upside down not a new plot story . Also , I doubt that that girl was holly …it might be somone else honestly
@@moonside3880 Thanks. I agree. Plus I thought the Duffers said last year that season 5 is mostly going to focus heavily on both Will and Eleven especially because of their connection to the UD and Vecna. If the show focuses heavily on Holly for season 5 then that only really affects the Wheeler family because Holly was never even a supporting character ( I believe Karen was more of a supporting character since she has had focus episodes in the other seasons ). That's why I honestly believe the missing Wheeler in the second episode is either going to be Nancy or Mike ( although I can possibly see Karen ) because with Nancy or Mike, it affects all of the main core characters ( not just family members ). With Nancy it will most definitely affect not just Mike but also Steve, Jonathan and Robin the most ( within the main core characters ). And with Mike it will affect Nancy, Dustin, Lucas and most importantly both Will and Eleven the most out of the main core character groups. But I definitely agree that the 4 core boys ( especially Will ) and Eleven should still have major roles and focus along with Steve, Jonathan and Nancy ( and even Robin and Max too even though they aren't season 1 characters but they are still main characters ). Thanks again and sorry so long.
I’m this is a flashback in the 50s is could possibly be karen wheeler
Karen will be a big part
They all have there own poster and hers is at the creel house.
Maybe she is Alice and vecna only put her in a transe? He did say they are still here in his mind.
Also she didn't want Mike to look for will. She know something
Also the last scene when it started snowing thing the upside down snow, she didn't act like it was snow, she looked concerned
Nancy says "he showed me my mom and Holly and Mike, and they were all.. " . She doesn't mention her father. What about Ted Wheeler? Where was he in that vision?
Probably sittin on his ass like always 😂
What if it's not holly but young karen 😮
My Prediction! Stranger things Vol 1 (1-3) May 2025 (Cliffhanger), 1 month later The First Shadows Hits theaters, then month later hits Netflix, then month or so later vol 2 (4-6) (Cliffhanger), I think Linda Hamilton is playing an Older Holly Wheeler. After she disappears as a child (She Returns as Adult Holly) and there will be some revelation of Will and Time Travel inheriting it from his connection to Vecna, then By Christmas 2025 Vol (7-8). I also think that Papa is older Henry, as Papas wrist are always covered up and they have the Exact Same Mannerisms. Ex. (Henry) Well Well look who finally decided to join us. then later (Papa), Well Well, looks like we have a new Winner. Papa is totally 001/Henry/Vecna. Also The Vecna at the end of Season 4 could be Much Older ( 1000 yrs) older than "50's dressed Henry" of Season 5 (who has not even done the things of season 4. Time travel is weird. Maybe Holly is Henry/Papas Wife and Vecna is Nancy and Mike's Brother in law and they have a Child together... but who could it be???? Since we know Papa's father ww2 story and its motivation for papa, maybe Will is Papa's Father at the beginning of it all (ie the First Shadow). food for thought
And I thought season 4 was to complicated at times ha.. interesting theories tho 🤔
So he either looks more disgusting or he was able to completely heal himself 😂😂
I think thats not holly, if its based on the passed and you showing the poster of karen wheeler for season 4, I think Karen has to do something with the past with Vecna.
I love Holly
I've heard the theory where Karen Wheeler is actually Henry Creel's sister, it would explain the poster with her at the Creel's house but definitely not certain. It would make sense why he might be targeting the Wheeler family as it might be a way to get back at his sister (if she is).
According to the First Shadow, her maiden name is Childress, so unless she was adopted she cannot be Alice Creel. Of course, we don't really have background on Karen other than she married Ted because of his financial standing.
I mean it is possible that Karen could’ve changed her name and she is alive creel. Not definite, but maybe🧐
What if that’s not holly but a young Karen which would make this a flashback
WAIT BUT WHAT IF NELL IS PLAYING A YOUNG KAREN WHEELER
I wonder if vecna is going to tap into the side of the MK Ultra powers Kali had to disguise himself as a human
She’s wearing a girlscout outfit/vest