I've done 6 trips with evoc pro (2 flights each so 12 flights) and I've never removed chain, derailleur or brakes as you did. Just buy foam insulation pipes from an hardware store to protect the frame, bubble wrap brakes and derailleur and add some to the chainring (with chain on biggest ring) protects the bike better than that and avoids chainring perforating the box
I cut pool noodles and and slide them over the tubes of my frame; cheap, easy, and custom. Removing the RD is great if it's electronic I suppose. Also, fwiw, I always carry my helmet on me - probably clipped to my carry on.
Great video, here's my experience: I brought a fixed gear from Germany to NYC two weeks ago. Since it would stay in NYC with my partner I packed it in a cardboard box. The box arrived in poor condition, it wouldn't have survived another trip to Germany. So cardboard boxes really shouldn't be expected to last more than one way. I am a Delta Status member, they will allow you to check a bike as a normal piece of luggage without any extra cost. (If you aren't a member, a ticket with one checked baggage should do the same) The main thing I was struggling with: The airport in Germany was fairly small and the plane from Germany to Amsterdam, my stopover, was tiny. After contacting delta several times, I was told not to worry and that I could bring my bike without any problems. At the airport when I checked my bag, they told me that I should have announced my plans to KLM (Deltas EU partner airline, Air France is one as well), even though they weren't operating the flight. Also when using a cardboard box, try to keep it as small as possible, and use enough filling material, otherwise your bike might arrive quite beat up.
Bike boxes fees could be as high as 75 to 120+ per trip, it does break easily and even more if it has to be checked by TSA, it wouldn't last you 2 trips and you could have your parts stolen or lost. They don't even allow you to bring a bigg cardboard box in some airlines to some specific countries also...
@@JR-if8yg years ago when I was flying to Mexico City jet blue wouldn’t allow you to fly internationally with boxes. That one trip is the reason I bought a bike bag in the first place.
I flew to nyc for the five boro bike tour. First time to nyc and first time flying with a bike. Heck my first time taking my bike anywhere actually. I got a cardboard box. It was a pain in the ass! I’m hoping to do it again next year, but hopefully I can afford a bike bag before then to make it easier and a smaller profile
I suspect the reason people use cardboard boxes is because they don't have anywhere to leave an expensive bag/box upon arrival. Just cheaper/easier to dump and find another for the flight home (especially when bike touring).
Number one pro tip: If you travel via AN AIRLINE with your bicycle in a bicycle travel case you bought from a retailer, and while in transit, THE AIRLINE, not the retailer you bought the case from, BUT THE AIRLINE damages your bike and/or your travel case (they will), that is the fault of THE AIRLINE, not the retailer. THE AIRLINE, not the retailer, but THE AIRLINE is then responsible for compensating you for the damages to your bike and/or your travel case. Not the retailer, THE AIRLINE. You are then responsible for reaching out to the manufacturer of your travel case that THE AIRLINE, not the retailer, but THE AIRLINE damaged to find out if the manufacturer of your travel case will cover that kind of damage under warranty. If they do no, which may well be the case, you will then be responsible for making sure that THE AIRLINE, not the retailer, but THE AIRLINE are the ones who reimburse you for the damages to your bike and/or your travel case. Now let's review. That's THE AIRLINE. Not the retailer, but THE AIRLINE.
I have a better solution. Argue that the bike is your shoes while you are clipped in. They can’t make you pay for wearing shoes. Then when you are in the plane, take off your shoes and sit down. Possibly ask the flight attendant to help securely stowing away your shoes.
Looking for a video of someone talking about a good bike bag/setup for those who are biking straight out of the airport and dont plan on taking the bike back, so taking a hard/semi hard case or renting luggage storage isn't an option. Maybe my predicament is too niche.
If you are traveling with a MTB you are likely going to be filling this whole bag out much further. Take your rotors off as they will likely be damaged in transit
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you're the only content creator i would watch a bag video from start to finish for, and love every minute of it. have a great time in Japan!
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I've done 6 trips with evoc pro (2 flights each so 12 flights) and I've never removed chain, derailleur or brakes as you did. Just buy foam insulation pipes from an hardware store to protect the frame, bubble wrap brakes and derailleur and add some to the chainring (with chain on biggest ring) protects the bike better than that and avoids chainring perforating the box
I used to do that same thing. My last trip from Montana I came back with a broken rear mech.
This. A hundred, thousand times THIS. The packing materials that come with most airline travel bike cases are WOEFULLY inadequate.
I cut pool noodles and and slide them over the tubes of my frame; cheap, easy, and custom.
Removing the RD is great if it's electronic I suppose.
Also, fwiw, I always carry my helmet on me - probably clipped to my carry on.
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Calf goals for sure !😁
Great video, here's my experience:
I brought a fixed gear from Germany to NYC two weeks ago. Since it would stay in NYC with my partner I packed it in a cardboard box. The box arrived in poor condition, it wouldn't have survived another trip to Germany. So cardboard boxes really shouldn't be expected to last more than one way.
I am a Delta Status member, they will allow you to check a bike as a normal piece of luggage without any extra cost. (If you aren't a member, a ticket with one checked baggage should do the same)
The main thing I was struggling with: The airport in Germany was fairly small and the plane from Germany to Amsterdam, my stopover, was tiny. After contacting delta several times, I was told not to worry and that I could bring my bike without any problems. At the airport when I checked my bag, they told me that I should have announced my plans to KLM (Deltas EU partner airline, Air France is one as well), even though they weren't operating the flight.
Also when using a cardboard box, try to keep it as small as possible, and use enough filling material, otherwise your bike might arrive quite beat up.
Nice Terry. My extra tip stay off the beer until you have packed the bike for the return flight.
Great idea
Very helpful video - thanks Terry!
My favorite content creator of all time
Have a great time Terry!
Great info and that bag looks rad. Safe travels in 🇯🇵
Great narration. Very informative!
Terry, those calf muscles are beastly!
I wish PacSafe would do a lockable bike transit case. Their slashproof tech and lockable zips are really excellent
Ok, so to avoid paying a baggage fee all you need to do is to buy an expensive bike bag and pay more for a ticket. Got it. Thanks.
Sounds like a bad idea if you only fly once and awhile but worth it if you travel a few times a year.
Bike boxes fees could be as high as 75 to 120+ per trip, it does break easily and even more if it has to be checked by TSA, it wouldn't last you 2 trips and you could have your parts stolen or lost. They don't even allow you to bring a bigg cardboard box in some airlines to some specific countries also...
@@JR-if8yg years ago when I was flying to Mexico City jet blue wouldn’t allow you to fly internationally with boxes. That one trip is the reason I bought a bike bag in the first place.
Helpful!
I flew to nyc for the five boro bike tour. First time to nyc and first time flying with a bike. Heck my first time taking my bike anywhere actually. I got a cardboard box. It was a pain in the ass! I’m hoping to do it again next year, but hopefully I can afford a bike bag before then to make it easier and a smaller profile
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I suspect the reason people use cardboard boxes is because they don't have anywhere to leave an expensive bag/box upon arrival. Just cheaper/easier to dump and find another for the flight home (especially when bike touring).
I mention that in the beginning of the video 🫡
@@TerryB Apologies, so you did! That's my selective hearing again (I only heard the respect-your-bike vibe).
Thank you, very informative and precise.
Safe travels big homie ,T!!!!!
That’s a nice bag
God Speed 🙏🏻
I have always wondered what was the easiest way to bring your bicycle on a plain, one day I hope to cycle my bike around Praia da Rocha in Portugal.
Number one pro tip: If you travel via AN AIRLINE with your bicycle in a bicycle travel case you bought from a retailer, and while in transit, THE AIRLINE, not the retailer you bought the case from, BUT THE AIRLINE damages your bike and/or your travel case (they will), that is the fault of THE AIRLINE, not the retailer. THE AIRLINE, not the retailer, but THE AIRLINE is then responsible for compensating you for the damages to your bike and/or your travel case. Not the retailer, THE AIRLINE.
You are then responsible for reaching out to the manufacturer of your travel case that THE AIRLINE, not the retailer, but THE AIRLINE damaged to find out if the manufacturer of your travel case will cover that kind of damage under warranty. If they do no, which may well be the case, you will then be responsible for making sure that THE AIRLINE, not the retailer, but THE AIRLINE are the ones who reimburse you for the damages to your bike and/or your travel case.
Now let's review. That's THE AIRLINE. Not the retailer, but THE AIRLINE.
That bag costs 10x what my bike did
Hey Terry, whats the back light around the 18 sec mark? I been looking for one where i dont have to take the rubber off as well. Thanks!
I have a better solution. Argue that the bike is your shoes while you are clipped in. They can’t make you pay for wearing shoes.
Then when you are in the plane, take off your shoes and sit down. Possibly ask the flight attendant to help securely stowing away your shoes.
😀
In Europe many airlines won't accept brakes with mineral oil. How you do that?
Sram.
I travel with the same bag and always remove disc rotors, wouldn’t like to see those bent at my destination ;)
Cat 😻
where do you store that big azz bag once you arrive?
Long term bike storage at the airport. The bag breaks down so it’s not nearly as tall.
Isn't the internal cable system hard to pack?
It’s not easy
Looking for a video of someone talking about a good bike bag/setup for those who are biking straight out of the airport and dont plan on taking the bike back, so taking a hard/semi hard case or renting luggage storage isn't an option. Maybe my predicament is too niche.
I've done that and carried the bike bag on my back from the airport
@TerryB nice. How long was the ride?
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@@TerryB watched the video, great story. I guess it is a niche situation haha.
but where do you put this 1000$ bag after landing? seems like 2$ cardboard box you can throw away works better
$20 cardboard box if a shop charges you. I leave it in long term Storage at the airport when I’m in Japan. Other places I take it with me.
sweet
If you are traveling with a MTB you are likely going to be filling this whole bag out much further. Take your rotors off as they will likely be damaged in transit
This bike bag has a rotor protection area however I agree my mtb rotors are 203mm so they’re much easier to bend.
@@TerryB I just had my rotors bent this week in this bag :) the road bike fit seems much less likely to bend
@ yeah the rotors are way smaller in diameter making them harder to bend. I