This is so cool. I work at my familys industrial foundry, we produce circular bars not ingots. Seeing it on a miniature scale is amazing! I could watch it for hours.
I like how you are organized! Every step is planned and safe. I would like to see how did you built that foundry, what kind of crucible do you have and from where.
thanks for the vid,try adding boric acid powder to your metal when molton to clean it, it will pull slag and will make a glass type resin over the metal it will quinch off mostlly tap off the rest.if you can get a carbon rod to skim the slag.
This is awesome. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind? 1. Are you using forced air, or is your burner naturally aspirated? 2. What would you say the capacity is? Looks like the crucible is a decent size, but I know copper takes a lot of heat. How many lbs of copper do you think you could melt in one go?
Tomoco how high is the Psi ur using? I've made a foundry recently but it wouldn't get hot enough to melt copper. I had the psi up to 35. Also from my bell shaped reducer I went from 2 inch down to 1 n 1/2 . Yours looks like 1 n 1/4.
Great video and part. I too would like details on how you line the tank and what type of material you use for refractory(insulation). Thumbs up to you sir!
Enjoyed your video. What's the weight on those copper bars 3lb? How much propane do you go through to do how many bars? What's the cost on propane vs quantity of bars? Example: You can do 100 bars with how much propane size and expense? What is your furnace made out of and what material is your crucible ( steel ?? ) ( concrete walls?? ) What i loved the most is you bang them out one after the next while that sucker is HOT and ready that's they way to do it brother nice...
The crucible and burner i made myself you can find videos on youtube on how to do it. If you pour into a cold mould it will shock the mould and will not last long plus its easy to get the ingot out
Hello, I have been thinking about making my own foundry melting copper. What I want to know is the cost of fuel used to melt the copper vs just scrapping it, worth it? I have at least 80 pounds of copper that is silver or nickle plated. The scrap yard pays less for it. IF I can melt it at a reasonable cost then maybe I will make the foundry. Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, William
It all depends on the scrap prices, but what i do is make the ingots and sell them on ebay the best price i got for one was 50 times higher than the scrap price at the time of sale, i would go for it William you can make good money from it. Best regards Tom.
It depends on the fuel you use. Propane costs more than gas by about a dollar, wood you can scrounge for free but requires more work and oil you can usually get free to but it sounds like it requires a good amount of learning to use safely and properly. A single burning usually takes a few hours so you need to calculate your propane burn rate per hour to figure out the cost of using propane.
I would like to get some information from you on the crucible that you're using did you make it or did you buy it if you bought it where'd you get it and what size propane tank do you use
Totally brilliant. But why bother? Do you get more for the copper? I you put in tinned wire will it remove the tin? (I have loads of borax) and about 300kg of stripped tinned and bright cable from rewires.
+john brown yes you do get more John remember that scrap value is the lowest price you get by doing what i do and selling the bars on ebay i am increasing the value of the copper 10 fold
hey how are you using a steel crusible because I use a coal furnace and it just completely melts it and it's one quarter inch thick and it was made out of a fire extinguisher
Hello Sir I melted some copper in a waste oil furnace then i made some ingots for future casting but when i tried to melt the same ingots i made before i couldn't melt them in the same furnace and same temperature i don't why i failed can you give me some advices please thank you
Tomoco UE ok I will begin by melting small pieces i think it helps the ingots to melt in the future I will make small ingots it is better i think thank you for the advice for your time and for the care
Im on youtube looking at different people doing this and curious about the economic element to this. I see some people just collecting copper and then I see some people like Tomoco melting down the metals. Is there more money in producing bars? Like do companies or who ever pay bigger bucks for the bars? Thanks in advance.
***** i sell the bars on ebay and get a lot more than scrap value, the price at my local scrap yard for hevy clean copper is £3:50 a kilo number 2 and dirty copper is a lot less, i put the bars at a start price of £10:00 for a kilo bar so that more than covers the cost of my gas and the time it takes to make them. Thanks.
Tomoco UE interesting. thanks. I know there is a concern about "Bars" because apparently people can melt other unwanted metals into lets say copper or gold and claim its 100% pure. Do you just melt down Copper? From what I have been seeing, Steel seems pretty useless to bother with.
Hi,need your guidance plz,I am recycling copper wires so when we r recycling some of the copper goes to plastic side some copper and plastic goes to dust collectors,copper size is too small and also plastic can you tell me how to separate them?
This is genius! Here i've spent hours looking for the right sized containers to build a blast furnace, I just need the damn refractory cement! what do you use? does it last? i dont want to be casting and recasting the thing after every 4 runs....
Is there a market to sell these ingots? I have been collecting cooper for scrapping purposes, and I have the makings for a foundry. Is it worth smelting down and selling? Awesome video by the way, great setup!
copper can be sold at scrap metal recycle centers. it is not worth to smelt down and sell because it takes a lot of fuels( gas or coal) to melt and that costs you a lot
I've been getting into the idea of smelting. When it comes to copper; how much overhead does the foundry create? Does the gas used take a lot out of the profit?
The gas cost me £24 per bottle i make 25 to 30 bars out of one bottle of gas approx, i sell the bars on ebay at a starting price of £9.99 not a bad profit for a few hours work
Tomoco UE I cant seem to find a place to buy short pieces of .25" thick 5 or 6" wide pipe but I did find the base plates on ebay. Now I just need to learn and practice welding to make the two short pipes I found into crucibles. Thanks again for your help.
i have 4 copper ingots at the moment. each one is about 2.5 kg !!! i get them regular for 150.-$ each. i asked by the time for aluminium ingots . they make them as well . i pay 100.-$ each one , also 2.5kg . i like , to clean them as crazy , until there shine like the sun. aluminium ingots look like massive silver !!! what are the price for ur ingots , and how heavy they are ?? BIG VIDEO !!!
Hi. Bloody great video. Just a question if I may ask, Could you do a step by step video on how you made you gas torch or could you make one and ship it to Australia for me please. My furnace doesn't get anywhere as hot as yours and the best I can do is Ally and even then its not staying hot enough to work with. Many Thanks
is propane a must to melt copper...im just doing aluminum at the moment....charcole and lost of cut wood.scrap form construction trash but works great.... your deal looks trick
Its done with the burner it mixes the air and gas together, if you look you will see a wing nut at the back of the burner this is used to adjust the air flow, the gas is propane.
kenneth skinaway Look up the law. It says that making any changes to the coin that would diminish it's value as currency is illegal. That includes melting the coin down so that it is no longer legal tender. united states code title 18 part 1 chapter 17 section 333 "Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both." - www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/333
Thanks for the comment Patrick sadly ive not got time to do that at the moment but if you look at this link you can buy the same burner off ebay www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/261409518679 Hope this helps you regards Tom.
he's using both. im guessing the red hose is gas and the wing nut to the left controls the air. it is a good question. does that red hose bring both? or only gas? propane?
+ZeWitchKid One thing before cutting a Used Propane Tank for use as anything Fill it with water FIRST. to get all the gas out dont want it to go BANG on you
Where does the copper come from? does it condense out of the atmosphere? I never see any thing loaded into the crucible, it's like magic! what do you use 4 flux?
Tomoco UE Have almost the same set up as you, made my own crucible as well but out of mild steel. Thing had a hole melted in it the first time I tried it out. Only difference between my set up and yours is I have a shorter tube going into the foundry. You think it acted like a cutting torch on my crucible? Have you ever heard of that happening before? Mild steel should only melt around 1400-1500 C, wouldn't think I could get it that hot so fast.
adam vollet I always chuckled when people would bring me nonferrous metals at the scrap yard and say "It's clean copper/aluminum/etc. There's no metal in it!"
I don't know why, but I could watch this for hours.
Thanks
Yeam me to its really borning on paper but facinating to watch
@@tomocoue2962 Does this crucible contaminate copper?
Lele Armi no it is ok
I have been!
Anyone who recycles old beer keg for a tree planter is good in my book ! New sub.
This is so cool. I work at my familys industrial foundry, we produce circular bars not ingots. Seeing it on a miniature scale is amazing! I could watch it for hours.
Kiss Your Finger thank you
Good rhythm you got going . Nice set up . Keep the videos coming !!
Ray Lentz Thanks Ray
That is a very pretty stack of ingots you are making!
I like how you are organized! Every step is planned and safe. I would like to see how did you built that foundry, what kind of crucible do you have and from where.
Nice plant in the background. Good thing it didn't go
"Up in Smoke". Lmao
all the videos I seen first one where the crucible was white hot
gr8 job tyvm for sharing
Thank you
thanks for the vid,try adding boric acid powder to your metal when molton to clean it, it will pull slag and will make a glass type resin over the metal it will quinch off mostlly tap off the rest.if you can get a carbon rod to skim the slag.
Galaxies O'banion Thanks i will give that a try
Youve done thos before pilgrim..great rythum .. great lil setup .. bravo in every direction 😁
haha I looked at the video halfway in and thought I saw the gas bottle in flames,,,its all good....nice video....... thanks
Ian Hill LOL Thanks for the comment Ian.
I like your tools for lifting and pouring they look nearly identical to mine
thats got to be the neatest homemade smelter i seen
Thanks
This is awesome. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind?
1. Are you using forced air, or is your burner naturally aspirated?
2. What would you say the capacity is? Looks like the crucible is a decent size, but I know copper takes a lot of heat. How many lbs of copper do you think you could melt in one go?
Only managed to watch three quarters of it as leaving work now, but that is AMAZING ;o))))
Tomoco how high is the Psi ur using?
I've made a foundry recently but it wouldn't get hot enough to melt copper.
I had the psi up to 35.
Also from my bell shaped reducer I went from 2 inch down to 1 n 1/2 . Yours looks like 1 n 1/4.
Evil Ass Clown
Great video and part. I too would like details on how you line the tank and what type of material you use for refractory(insulation). Thumbs up to you sir!
Thanks Chris, have a look at this link you will get all the info you need to do the job
th-cam.com/video/gFOq88iQg60/w-d-xo.html
Very impressive. I wondered if it was an oil burner at first, but clearly it isn't. You should definitely check them out on youtube ;)
Nice job. Glad everything worked out.
Thanks to you Bob it did Regards Tom
Very cool bro, I dig it. I was wondering if the plastic chairs are, perhaps, too close to the work area? Cool, regardless :)
Enjoyed your video. What's the weight on those copper bars 3lb? How much propane do you go through to do how many bars? What's the cost on propane vs quantity of bars? Example: You can do 100 bars with how much propane size and expense? What is your furnace made out of and what material is your crucible ( steel ?? ) ( concrete walls?? ) What i loved the most is you bang them out one after the next while that sucker is HOT and ready that's they way to do it brother nice...
Hi Tomoco i like your backyard foundry, please where you find that crucible with the hooks and the ingot mold?
Hi Leopoldo, i got the molds off ebay, the crucible and hooks i made myself, Regards Tom.
Yes please do a video on that, I am in the process of building the foundry many thanks!
thats cool ....hot...can u drop insulated wire in there or do u have to strip it i want to make round cast's to turn on my lathe
If you put insulated wire in it will create a lot of bad fumes
What material did you use for the crucible? And what nozzle did you use on the gasburner? And last what happens if you dont preheat the ingot mold?
The crucible and burner i made myself you can find videos on youtube on how to do it. If you pour into a cold mould it will shock the mould and will not last long plus its easy to get the ingot out
*Casually holds steaming bar of copper* 0_0
Hello,
I have been thinking about making my own foundry melting copper. What I want to know is the cost of fuel used to melt the copper vs just scrapping it, worth it? I have at least 80 pounds of copper that is silver or nickle plated. The scrap yard pays less for it. IF I can melt it at a reasonable cost then maybe I will make the foundry. Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
William
It all depends on the scrap prices, but what i do is make the ingots and sell them on ebay the best price i got for one was 50 times higher than the scrap price at the time of sale, i would go for it William you can make good money from it. Best regards Tom.
It depends on the fuel you use. Propane costs more than gas by about a dollar, wood you can scrounge for free but requires more work and oil you can usually get free to but it sounds like it requires a good amount of learning to use safely and properly. A single burning usually takes a few hours so you need to calculate your propane burn rate per hour to figure out the cost of using propane.
hey is the copper worth more at the scrap yard if you smelt it?
make more melting vids, this is one of the better ones on youtube
Thank you Jason, i will be doing some more in time just a little busy right now.
Very nice. Thanks for sharing your video.
I would like to get some information from you on the crucible that you're using did you make it or did you buy it if you bought it where'd you get it and what size propane tank do you use
Hey Tom, just wondering if you were going to make a video on how to make that crucible would love to give this a try ! :D
Maybe i will when i get the time
there are plenty of vids out there that show you how to do it. even using a old master propand gas heater will work.
Then you make magical copper armor and go on a big adventure!
good deal! it looked hotter than the sun?
Any info on how to make the burner and what kind of insulation did you use thank you
Look at this link Richard it will answer your questions
th-cam.com/video/gFOq88iQg60/w-d-xo.html
Totally brilliant. But why bother? Do you get more for the copper? I you put in tinned wire will it remove the tin? (I have loads of borax) and about 300kg of stripped tinned and bright cable from rewires.
+john brown yes you do get more John remember that scrap value is the lowest price you get by doing what i do and selling the bars on ebay i am increasing the value of the copper 10 fold
You could make status... And sell if you do lost wax. I like your setup. Very fast melting.
the crucible is SS? im surprised it didn't melt. what temp do you pour at and what do you use to clean/flux the metal?
Pour around 2190 F. Borax for flux. And your right it is SS the crucible
ss=steel?
When you had the pulse-jet effect and orange exhaust, was that an indicator that your air/fuel was too rich or too lean?
In this case it was too much fuel i had it running a bit to fast for the sake of the video
+Tomoco UE Thanks. I'm using a forced air / low pressure gas design to fire mine and was curious about the high-pressure burners.
+Cleveland Amateur Radio Club no probs Thanks for the comment
hey how are you using a steel crusible because I use a coal furnace and it just completely melts it and it's one quarter inch thick and it was made out of a fire extinguisher
Mine is stainless steel, it sonunds to me like your airflow is to strong try turning it down and see if that helps.
Hello Sir
I melted some copper in a waste oil furnace then i made some ingots for future casting but when i tried to melt the same ingots i made before i couldn't melt them in the same furnace and same temperature i don't why i failed can you give me some advices please thank you
It could be because the ingots are bigger it will take longer to reach the requierd temp.
thanks for the reply Sir
I'll try to give them more time and see
thanks again
+tracychapman1000 melt some small bits first so you get a pool of copper in the bottom
Tomoco UE ok I will begin by melting small pieces i think it helps the ingots to melt
in the future I will make small ingots it is better i think
thank you for the advice for your time and for the care
+tracychapman1000 you are welcome Sir.
Hi. If i made a foundry like this. Would it be able to do aluminum and copper
Yes no probs.
So what was the point? You did everything off camera or with your back to it?
Im on youtube looking at different people doing this and curious about the economic element to this.
I see some people just collecting copper and then I see some people like Tomoco melting down the metals.
Is there more money in producing bars? Like do companies or who ever pay bigger bucks for the bars?
Thanks in advance.
***** i sell the bars on ebay and get a lot more than scrap value, the price at my local scrap yard for hevy clean copper is £3:50 a kilo number 2 and dirty copper is a lot less, i put the bars at a start price of £10:00 for a kilo bar so that more than covers the cost of my gas and the time it takes to make them. Thanks.
Tomoco UE interesting. thanks. I know there is a concern about "Bars" because apparently people can melt other unwanted metals into lets say copper or gold and claim its 100% pure.
Do you just melt down Copper? From what I have been seeing, Steel seems pretty useless to bother with.
do I have to strip my wire first or can I just have it burn off ?
I have a Foundry that melts steel and iron! It's an effort to make though.
Hi,need your guidance plz,I am recycling copper wires so when we r recycling some of the copper goes to plastic side some copper and plastic goes to dust collectors,copper size is too small and also plastic can you tell me how to separate them?
Hi Tomoco. Does the price for the copper increase when its in an ingot and if so how much?
Yes but it all depends on the going price of copper at the time, your making number 2 copper into heavy copper so thats an increase for a start
Would it be worth investing in a foundry and advertising to buy scrap copper? I guess I will have to reserch it. Thanks for the reply.
This is genius! Here i've spent hours looking for the right sized containers to build a blast furnace, I just need the damn refractory cement! what do you use? does it last? i dont want to be casting and recasting the thing after every 4 runs....
perlite and sodium silicone seems to work..never tried it tho.its worth a google =]
Is that propane only or do you have to introduce air to get it hot enough?
Propane and air.
How heavy are your bars? And do you list them as .999 copper?
Is there a market to sell these ingots? I have been collecting cooper for scrapping purposes, and I have the makings for a foundry. Is it worth smelting down and selling?
Awesome video by the way, great setup!
copper can be sold at scrap metal recycle centers. it is not worth to smelt down and sell because it takes a lot of fuels( gas or coal) to melt and that costs you a lot
Great video. What's the average weight of the casted ingots?
Thanks, the mould in the video makes a 1 kilo bar
I've been getting into the idea of smelting. When it comes to copper; how much overhead does the foundry create? Does the gas used take a lot out of the profit?
The gas cost me £24 per bottle i make 25 to 30 bars out of one bottle of gas approx, i sell the bars on ebay at a starting price of £9.99 not a bad profit for a few hours work
Tomoco UE CAn`t you just sell the scrap instead? For the same price?
Where do you get your copper from?
Joep Stuyfzand if you sold the copper as it was then you would only get scrap price for it, i get the copper out of old motors.
Tomoco UE How much is the ingot price then?
And can I melt it in a charcoal foundry?
I sell them on ebay starting price @£10 thats a 1 kilo bar, if you can get the charcoal foundry hot enough you could do it.
dose the SS crucible contaminate the copper?
One more question, where do you get the crucible with the hooks on it like that and what material is it? By the way cool video
I made the crucible and hooks when i get time i will do a video on how to make them, thanks for the like Richard.
Tomoco UE Is there no way to buy them? I looked online but all I see are small ss crucibles with .6mm thick walls and yours looks much thicker.
I dont know of anywhere to buy them sorry
Tomoco UE
I cant seem to find a place to buy short pieces of .25" thick 5 or 6" wide pipe but I did find the base plates on ebay. Now I just need to learn and practice welding to make the two short pipes I found into crucibles. Thanks again for your help.
dhermitmorse your welcome
What are you using for casting?
Is it possible for me to melt copper using charcoal as a fuel source
no use coal
is this just compressed air or some sort of fuel gas?
Propane gas
i have 4 copper ingots at the moment. each one is about 2.5 kg !!!
i get them regular for 150.-$ each. i asked by the time for aluminium ingots .
they make them as well . i pay 100.-$ each one , also 2.5kg .
i like , to clean them as crazy , until there shine like the sun.
aluminium ingots look like massive silver !!!
what are the price for ur ingots , and how heavy they are ??
BIG VIDEO !!!
+FRIEDHELM ERNST ESSER is it really that much? i migth smelt all my drawer metals...
Anton Helsgaun
ähhh,imma not joking on that......
hey what's the name of that mold I'm just getting in to this hobby and I'm still learning
Dont know the name but you can get them off ebay all sizes.
What are you using as fuel?
Propane Tom
Hi. Bloody great video. Just a question if I may ask, Could you do a step by step video on how you made you gas torch or could you make one and ship it to Australia for me please. My furnace doesn't get anywhere as hot as yours and the best I can do is Ally and even then its not staying hot enough to work with. Many Thanks
what did you line the furnace with?
Plaster of paris
is propane a must to melt copper...im just doing aluminum at the moment....charcole and lost of cut wood.scrap form construction trash but works great....
your deal looks trick
anthony marasco your way is great for aluminium but for copper you need a higher temp
Tomoco UE i need something like yours...propane gas? what is your reulater 20. 30? ty
Tomoco UE hi, what size propane cylinder do you use and how long does it last? im getting a furnace soon that uses pretty much the same burner.
***** its a 5 gallon... just tour basic set up from home depot out side heater tank ty
What did you make that out of
web1187 a propain gas bottle
How is the combustion made? just bunring gas? or with forced convection? what kind of gas btw?
Its done with the burner it mixes the air and gas together, if you look you will see a wing nut at the back of the burner this is used to adjust the air flow, the gas is propane.
Tomoco UE I see, so no convection it just the gas flow and pressure that do the mixing and suck are in trough the nutted wing?
Tomoco UE how did you build the venturi system?
Tomoco UE how did you build the venturi burner?
I will do a video on how to make it when i get time
How many pre-1983's did you throw in there?
Non thats ilegal. Just number 2 copper wire
Tomoco UE its not illegal unless you change the coins worth like. Changing a quarter to a dollar coin.
kenneth skinaway Look up the law. It says that making any changes to the coin that would diminish it's value as currency is illegal. That includes melting the coin down so that it is no longer legal tender.
united states code title 18 part 1 chapter 17 section 333
"Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both." - www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/333
dhermitmorse like i said its illegal.
It's pre-1982's dumbass. 83's are 95% zinc 5% copper. Worthless scrap. 82's and older are 95% copper. Jackpot.
How to make this foundry
how many ingots do you produce with one full 30lb propane tank
Never counted sorry
Nice vid I subbed
Thanks for the comment Patrick sadly ive not got time to do that at the moment but if you look at this link you can buy the same burner off ebay
www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/261409518679 Hope this helps you regards Tom.
What is the crucible and where did you get it
+2thomask i made it out of ss.
+Tomoco UE I take it you mean stainless steel? Thank you, great video!
+Carl Brill yes Carl.
what's your foundry made out of?
Its made from a propane tank.
Tomoco UE i know but is it like lined with anything?
+Henry Feingold it cost me about £45 it was made from stuff i had allready
How do you make this
ok I'll try that I'm getting a graphite crusible shipped in from eBay soon so I won't have to worry about that anymore thanks anywhy
are you using a gas or is that air?
he's using both. im guessing the red hose is gas and the wing nut to the left controls the air. it is a good question. does that red hose bring both? or only gas? propane?
Only propane
thats a nice way to recycle an old used propane tank....better than letting it rust in a scrapyard
+ZeWitchKid One thing before cutting a Used Propane Tank for use as anything Fill it with water FIRST. to get all the gas out dont want it to go BANG on you
that goes without saying, i got a friend who almost lost a face for throwing used buthane bottles in a fire
Where does the copper come from? does it condense out of the atmosphere?
I never see any thing loaded into the crucible, it's like magic! what do you use 4
flux?
Its just old scrap copper, i use borax to flux
hi just wondering what kind of crusable are you useing
I made it myself out of SS
Tomoco UE Have almost the same set up as you, made my own crucible as well but out of mild steel. Thing had a hole melted in it the first time I tried it out. Only difference between my set up and yours is I have a shorter tube going into the foundry. You think it acted like a cutting torch on my crucible? Have you ever heard of that happening before? Mild steel should only melt around 1400-1500 C, wouldn't think I could get it that hot so fast.
Same thing happend to me but the first one i made was not thick enought it was just to test the setup realy
Mine was quarter inch, how thick do you recommend?
Should work a treat quarter inch made out of ss
Graphite crucible?
No steel.
nice weed plant
hey guys,
we wanna put up a 1000 tons/day beneficiation plant + smelting.Can you help.?
Big thanks Rich
+Tomoco UE how much is the first bar worth?
Now that's f@&King hot
Sure is Jon
+Tomoco UE what temperature does it get to?
Saskatchewan wander
Basically a complete waste of time. If you have time to burn keep on . Soon we all will be dead.
Too much heat
Make metal ingots instead
Copper is a metal
adam vollet I always chuckled when people would bring me nonferrous metals at the scrap yard and say "It's clean copper/aluminum/etc. There's no metal in it!"
bcas quanta, you are dreaming to become a millionair by a backyard scrap project...all others at here like you..( sighs )
wielkie gowno.
This video is boring. No talking, no showing what furnace looks like inside, no explanation, whatever you're running on propane or waste oil.