On the RTRM board, two flashes indicates that the unit is in alarm. And the two flash on the ignition module would be ignition failure. I have noticed that not all Trane Precedent/Voyager units have the diagnostic light list for the ignition module. And I always love how the ignitor comes with new screws, clip, and gasket, but you can NEVER get those screws out! 🤣
1:18 "Being somewhat familiar with these Tranes..." Thinking back on all the retail warehouse sites I've serviced with these units, I suspect that your statement was followed by thoughts of shattered ignitors and locked up/broken screws. But hey, at least the larger transformer in the corner didn't burst into a ball of fire this time ...or you didn't cross-thread a bolt while replacing the inducer ...or the idle pulley wasn't broken off ...or that nightmare of a heat exchanger wasn't cracked ...god I don't miss dealing with those units. Give me a Lennox L-Series over that or a York any day.
To answer your question my day was good, I replaced a Carrier RTU with a new one and looked at an open air case. 😂 Loved the video Bill! Learned something as usual. Keep them coming!
@@xraybravo7180I believe they are called turbulators, not to answer for the curious guy but this one he is working on is a negative pressure gas valve that do not have those on the inlet but do sometimes on the outlet side. Typically see those on the regular style burners.
@@xraybravo7180 the manufacturer puts them in not something installed after the fact. I would say lean on manufacturer (trane) or Google is a good option for everything.
Since I'm new into refrigeration let me ask you this have you fixed a big hissing leak on a small cook line reach in cooler that has black coated heat craft evaporator, I have cleaned the U bend itself from paint, with low heat as I was trying to heat up the joint the rest of the paint would catch fire and cause all kinds of smoke so I stopped and opted to replace the whole evaporator and also put a new internal equalizing expansion valve however I found there is no service port at the evaporator outlet to adjust the superheat. This is a rack unit one condenser feeds three evaporator and each has its own temp control with soleniod valve . I dont know why the existing txv does not have service port at the evaporator to adjust superheat if needed or do you think the txv already come in pre Dialed in. Any input I would really appreciate it.
Those igniters are very fragile. I broke one taking it out of the styrofoam. I get another and bumped my arm on the panel and dropped it. Third one was a charm. Stay safe.
The newer ones are a little more tougher but still probably don’t want to push your luck with them too, other thing I would like to point out too is most outdoor package units or rooftop units don’t have hot surface ignition, just only spark ignition, I guess the reason why this model has HSI, is probably because the combustion chamber is more sealed then in standard gas/electric rooftop units.
Idk if it is the cause of so many HSI failures in Michigan, but 90%+ of the units I come across with defective HSI have ignition transformer still wired for 240v and being supplied with 208v
Good tip lifting wire I stripped them before one held it.Learned if that happens burner plate replacement time !😣 Never seize is our friend!😀Thanks Curious!
Those tranes with the negative gas pressure gas valve can be a pain. I had one that the inducer fail and show sings that someone messed with the gas valve so I had to replace that too to be on safe side. And replace the igniter for kicks and giggles while I was at it.
They're called turbulators. If they slide back too far, they blow a hole in the hx. You can remove them, they're a California thing, supposed to help with efficiency.
Good point- should have addressed that and looked into it further, poor connection to my leads or trace it back to the transformer and double check it there
I have replaced the ignitor on one and the screen be clogged up !!!! Delayed it igniting and when it lite blow that ignitor out of its shocket. Be careful standing in front of that unit !!! Freak me out I was looking for the flame just like you was
I learned very early in my light commercial career to leave those screws alone and replace that igniter exactly the way you did.
On the RTRM board, two flashes indicates that the unit is in alarm. And the two flash on the ignition module would be ignition failure. I have noticed that not all Trane Precedent/Voyager units have the diagnostic light list for the ignition module. And I always love how the ignitor comes with new screws, clip, and gasket, but you can NEVER get those screws out! 🤣
1:18 "Being somewhat familiar with these Tranes..."
Thinking back on all the retail warehouse sites I've serviced with these units, I suspect that your statement was followed by thoughts of shattered ignitors and locked up/broken screws.
But hey, at least the larger transformer in the corner didn't burst into a ball of fire this time ...or you didn't cross-thread a bolt while replacing the inducer ...or the idle pulley wasn't broken off ...or that nightmare of a heat exchanger wasn't cracked ...god I don't miss dealing with those units. Give me a Lennox L-Series over that or a York any day.
Man!!! I thought I was gonna see air wolf come flying in with that music playing😂🤣😂 good stuff mr. Bill
Effen hilarious! Thanks for breaking it up. 3 hours of videos was starting to fog up the brain. Cheers!
To answer your question my day was good, I replaced a Carrier RTU with a new one and looked at an open air case. 😂 Loved the video Bill! Learned something as usual. Keep them coming!
That is awesome!
2 flashes is system lock out! Gotta love trane and the diagnostics that dont tell you anything you dont already know. 😂😂. Keep up the good work!
I have a question what is it inside the burner tube I see some units have them ceramic type of things when burners come on they glow cherry red?
@@xraybravo7180I believe they are called turbulators, not to answer for the curious guy but this one he is working on is a negative pressure gas valve that do not have those on the inlet but do sometimes on the outlet side. Typically see those on the regular style burners.
@@EverythingHVACR OK thanks I never red about the turbulators before where can I can get some info on them how they work and when they are needed ?
@@xraybravo7180 the manufacturer puts them in not something installed after the fact. I would say lean on manufacturer (trane) or Google is a good option for everything.
Since I'm new into refrigeration let me ask you this have you fixed a big hissing leak on a small cook line reach in cooler that has black coated heat craft evaporator, I have cleaned the U bend itself from paint, with low heat as I was trying to heat up the joint the rest of the paint would catch fire and cause all kinds of smoke so I stopped and opted to replace the whole evaporator and also put a new internal equalizing expansion valve however I found there is no service port at the evaporator outlet to adjust the superheat. This is a rack unit one condenser feeds three evaporator and each has its own temp control with soleniod valve . I dont know why the existing txv does not have service port at the evaporator to adjust superheat if needed or do you think the txv already come in pre Dialed in. Any input I would really appreciate it.
Great video even better music😁thanks for sharing
Had an old timer teach me that if that specific igniter amps under 3 before ignition it's ready to replace.
Those igniters are very fragile. I broke one taking it out of the styrofoam. I get another and bumped my arm on the panel and dropped it. Third one was a charm. Stay safe.
The newer ones are a little more tougher but still probably don’t want to push your luck with them too, other thing I would like to point out too is most outdoor package units or rooftop units don’t have hot surface ignition, just only spark ignition, I guess the reason why this model has HSI, is probably because the combustion chamber is more sealed then in standard gas/electric rooftop units.
Idk if it is the cause of so many HSI failures in Michigan, but 90%+ of the units I come across with defective HSI have ignition transformer still wired for 240v and being supplied with 208v
Thank you for your great videos🙏🙏🙏🙏💐💐
Fire is good! Thanks for sharing Bill! 👍
That’s why I love Trane RTU’s. Simple.
Good tip lifting wire I stripped them before one held it.Learned if that happens burner plate replacement time !😣 Never seize is our friend!😀Thanks Curious!
Great video bud love them Lennox drivers I am kinda sure that belt is supposed to be on the other side of the idler pulley that’s why all the mess
That "interruption" was unexpected, hence an interruption..
Good audio choice!
5:59 NorCals tech tip of the day!
FYI I lick all my ignitors before I put them in. NastyHVAC tech tip of the tongue of the day.
I like to lick parts at the supply house and put them back on the shelf
Thanks today’s the day
Filters are like gold right now with COVID-19. 12-15 weeks to get em. Working in public schools
Great video👍🏼
Great video loved the music...
Thanks 👍
Love the 80's remix!
Good job
Great video
You are so smart !
thanks for the video and please excuse my ignorance, can you tell me if there is a reset button for the furnace on this type of unit?
There is an actual ohm rating for a cold hsi from trane. I cant remember excatlly, but I think its like 86 ohm cold
Anti seize is a techs best friend. It could save you or someone else a headache later!
Whats the compressor mark on trane, not copland not hitachi ...?
I was disappointed there was no discussion of moose bites. 😁 Good show.
Good one Bill👍
To answer your question, the weird language is french. Its basically written the same thing but in french. ☺️
Those tranes with the negative gas pressure gas valve can be a pain. I had one that the inducer fail and show sings that someone messed with the gas valve so I had to replace that too to be on safe side. And replace the igniter for kicks and giggles while I was at it.
I like the remix
Great presentation!! Collaboration interest
Thanks so much!
i have ignition and gas and it wont lit. i have cleaned the screens as well not sure where to go after that ?
Please more 80s Action Music.. Thank You
Did you take the lonely little compressor home for experiments?
I did, lol-- its im my compressor to do pile
What are these things called on regular gas burners that are inside the burner tube and glows Cherry red something like ceramic ?
They're called turbulators. If they slide back too far, they blow a hole in the hx. You can remove them, they're a California thing, supposed to help with efficiency.
lol the music was more like 80's adult movie XD
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No concern with no load 113 volt going to igniter?
Good point- should have addressed that and looked into it further, poor connection to my leads or trace it back to the transformer and double check it there
Didn't look like it was open. Could you have checked it with an ohmeter to verify it is defective?
If it has voltage going to it and it's not working, it's bad. It really can be that simple. No need for further diagnosis.
How old was the unit? Heat exchanger condition?
I'm having a good day so far ... A couple shot's of Vodka and a good ole Curious vid ... I'm good ... Lol ...
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I have replaced the ignitor on one and the screen be clogged up !!!! Delayed it igniting and when it lite blow that ignitor out of its shocket. Be careful standing in front of that unit !!! Freak me out I was looking for the flame just like you was
I usually just move the wire bracket out of the way and then install new.
lmao, nice video fork up :)))
Thanks 😅
You sound a little depressed🙁, 👋🇺🇸🧙♂️, 👍👀📹, 🙂🙃😎🤣👍ya still got fans watching
I have one uint that model and when in heat it whistles pretty loud how can i stop that
WOO0O0O0
WOO0OO0
i was sad when the music ended
4.18......i bet you say that to all the Girls? And BOYS? cant leave anyone out these days!
You don't do this in all your videos? You should.
When all else fails grab the Vampliers!
#88 Thumbs uP
French @8:08
Witch nuts ............ deez nuts ....
You can't put 80s music in a video that's Chris's thing!
Break in seconds. Instantly
HSI is a poor design
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