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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- Today I explore the topic of oceans in The Walking Dead Universe, and cover the pirates story arc from Fear The Walking Dead season 2
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0:00 - Intro
0:51 - The early days at sea
3:30 - The Pirates
8:48 - The modern day at sea
11:26 - CRM influence theory
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Another interesting thing is that in FTWD season 2, when they are going to Mexico. They had Mexican Navy portralling their coastline. There is a deleted scene where Daniel Salazar stated that the Mexican Navy sailors are former military and have gone rogue rather than actually representing the Navy. It would be cool to see a pirate group that was formerly the Navy.
Off topic, but. Season 2 is probably the best of world building we got from FTWD. Playing around with the culture and themes was great. Honestly wish we got that scene.
@doktorneunpotatoentertainment Absolutely agreed, It made the world feel more alive. Same with thing FTWD season 3 with the trading outpost.
@@Lord_Velvet_ Honestly didn't like S3. Was happy to have scenes that weren't with the two worst factions imaginable that made no sense from a writer perspective. Was happy to see Daniel again.
In the world war z book something similar happens with a Russian sub and an American submarine fighting it out
So the islands ??like coronado??
pretty sure zombies would just sink to the bottom of the sea with no air in their lungs
Damn, they would. Then they’d start floating again after a certain level of decomposition too, wouldn’t they?
I never could really buy the idea that the US Navy went down so completely. When Wildfire went global there were still subs at sea that could stay submerged for months.They could have been been warned or simply have taken the precaution of staying underwater (where a submarine could create it's own breathing
oxygen from seawater) and never contracted the virus for months until lack of food would force them to seek a friendly port for resupply.
Even then, they would be able to take precautions such as using the airlocks and protective gear with their own oxygen supply to go ashore looking for supplies.
Remember in the spin off with the sub people freaking out trying to break rank, panic people die naturally in the sub could bring the whole thing down even from 1 person dying or trying to break the seal keeping the water out
I concur, navy ships have doors for a reason. Some ships would fall yes, but you could put in place a process where compartments are locked until you either radio that everyone inside is present and accounted for or get no response and can assume someone in that area died.
So long as you could keep at least an aircraft carrier or even landing ship active and enough marines to periodically raid coastal bases for long term storage food items, ammo and fuel you would be in the best position possible. short of maybe Nuclear shelters but even then ships are each an island at sea.
WD could have been made more interesting by having them still present in some capacity as like you said, how could they have gone down completly?
How could they get oxygen from seawater? Even if they could extract oxygen from H2O, whatever contraption they use would blow up due to the remaining hydrogen
@dylankennedy6020 Just electrolysis, it's common practice in all nuclear subs, that's how they can stay submerged for so long. They separate and collect the oxygen from the seawater using electricity, and release the hydrogen back into the sea. Likewise, they have carbon dioxide scrubbers that filter out the CO2 from the air and also pump it out of the sub.
Plus they also have chemical alternatives just in case the main machines fail, though those have a limited running time.
*fuel economy*
its only a matter of time before fuel supplies dwindle. that means returning to land to deal with ports that are overrun, raider traps, and or tapped out/disabled from disrepair.
If I remember correctly, The Abigail had that water filtation and desalination system. That alone made it worth taking. I watched Fear a long time ago, so I might be wrong.
Yup you’re correct!
There was also mention of a fishing vessel out of Dover that was ready to give Daryl a lift across the channel, and it was mentioned he could get as far as Newfoundland which I think is in Canada so there must be bigger communities running fishing operations and trading all across the coast lines both sides of the Atlantic.
quickly becoming one of my favourite TWD youtubers 🙏
You’re a real one man🙏 really appreciate it. Watched you for years
Ayo wtf inabber?!?
Im guessing piracy largely fell off in TWD universe simply bc ppl ran out of fuel and the means of maintaining their vessels
And people to rob
There's probably still some over near Russia due to the fuel in the region
And probably Alaska
Sails it is, boys!
@@leebarbs7176 definitely in the Caribbean
As a Kiwi, I feel like a lot of Pirate's will be coming straight outta New Zealand.
Damn, maybe Kenny's boat plan isn't that genius.
We dont know anything about the oceans in the TWD comic since thats where the game takes place in. Theres an equally good chance his plan was a bad idea as well as the best idea
Kenny from Telltale s TWD had a boat plan on escaping first to the Savannah river and then probably South, to Florida, but that didn't work out so well...
Dude! Keep em coming these are great! We as the audience only get bits and pieces of what actually happened and you do a great job of filling in the blanks and tying it all together
Completely agree!
We need a whole review of the Ftwd season finale and how trash it was. We got no real answers and left with the same question, why. June and padre found a make shift cure, which the in the world beyond they were experimenting on people
they were experimenting with a cure but it didn't work
I'm with you on this
Im pretty sure that make shift cure was proven to not work, seeing how dwights kid got bit, went through the treatment and eventually died, all it did was slow down the virus but the victims would still succumb to it, as well as the radiation poisening from the treatment, so even if they go through it, they would still die, alicia survived most likely due to just getting badly sick from cutting her hand off with a rusty pole, and having no way of cleaning the wound immediately after cutting due to being stuck in a vent
This
Yeah there was a plot point in The Ones Who Live that I haven’t seen anyone talk about. Supposedly, Thorne came to the US to gamble in Las Vegas when it started.
Then she says she was trying to get back to South Africa, Somehow (unexplained) Thorne says she was picked up by Okafor in the Atlantic Ocean.
This means that she crossed the entire US from Nevada to the east coast and then found a ship and was stranded in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean when Okafor found her...
Her backstory doesn't add up but it also places Okafor/CRM on the high seas.
(Why it doesn't add up is because she was crap fighting Walkers! When you have traveled across the US like Rick and Michonne taking out 200 Walkers is nothing, Thorne was out of her league that is why Michonne took over.... there is no way she made it across the US,
I'm curios why you think she couldn't do it? Thorne served for the South African Navy so she had military training experience.
Also apparently she tried to escape America multiple times before ending up taking a boat across the Atlantic Ocean before being found by Okafor. We don't know how long she was in America before ending up on the boat but I'd imagine she got experience killing walker during her journey.
And Thorne was fine at killing walkers in the 3rd episode it was just the RDIM was stuck.
Michonne didn't have any experience before the outbreak yet when we first see her she's wielding a Katana like a Samurai and journeyed by herself for awhile yet nobody questions that.
She could have been with a group
Maybe she was lying?
CRM would absolutely decimate pirate vessels on sight
@@keenan646 she thought killing 200 walkers was a LOT.
This could have been such an interesting concept to further explore in Fear. It’s interesting because even the sea isn’t safe from walkers or people trying to escape land. With how many resources CRM has, it would be reasonable for them to trade overseas as well. I didn’t mind this Fear arc which in my opinion was rushed but exploring the seas was fun to watch and I like how we got to see that a bit further in Daryl Dixon show.
The way Daryl washed up in France is the most mid-Georgia thing I've seen since he got drunk with Beth 😂😂
Edit: you guys are great thanks for the likes 🐢
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@@psychoapplesauceeater8562 what I said there
@@greenkoopa what makes those events the most mid Georgia thing
@@psychoapplesauceeater8562a culture of alcoholism
@@selenapink98 and the casual child abuse he described to Beth
Such a cool and unique concept for a video. Keep up the amazing work. You’re quickly becoming my go to walking dead TH-camr.
I can say this, there’s people with 300,000 subscribers who don’t make as good as videos or quality as you do. You’re going to go far man.
Hey thanks so much man!
the channel gold an gunpowder gives an idea of how pirates worked. TWD would be a golden age because no Navy to put a check on the pirates
True, though it depends on the level of firepower they have. I imagine it would mostly be limited to civilian boats and small arms. Which, if a civilization has reached the point where they are able to develop sustainable trade routes to plunder (Yarr) they can probably make their own navy along the lines of armed guys to guard their trading vessels.
Then it becomes a question of its worth it, because pirates don’t want to fight for their living, and if it is still an early post apocalyptic setting then pickings will be slim, and what traders can trade they are likely to fight to the death for because it probably means death if the pirates take it for themselves.
Which might make the economy of piracy not work out, if it’s more dangerous and has slimmer pickings then just working for the trading communities.
Seasons 1 and 2 of Fear were so gooood! I literally forgot how much I loved this show. Love your channel. It's such a nice nostalgia for this show. Great narration. I love your style.
Hey keep up the great work mate , I'm a big fan of the walking dead and it's great how you tie it together through all the series
Love the videos! Very well done with lots of care
Ahoy, Matey, You had all hands on deck for this one, Great Video, you made my Saturday! ☠️💎👌
Yar har har, swab my deck! Yar har har, show me whatcher workin with!
Love your videos though foreal. Great to see someone peice together so much lore I would never figure out myself. I also really appreciate how transparent and unbiased you are 👍
Just come across your channel, love how you explain everything. Im a massive TWD fan so this was very informative. Thanks man !
Alex the lady who survived flight 462 will show up in the show “The Ones Who Live”.
What a stretch 😂
@@PssstShhhh haha gimple said someone unexpected is showing up the “The Ones Who Live”, thought I’d have a wild guess haha
My guess is Heath
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Update: hahaha way off
Another banger. Good job!
Well really its 20 years later so at this point any sub is a floating coffin however its not reality so why not have a sub that still works
Yeah valid, I’d just love to see different avenues for survival we haven’t seen in this universe yet
@@Swell-Films well id pass on the sub even if it still worked, but did you read robur the conqueror? id rather have an air ship
Yea, Submarines unless part of a larger group would not be operating by themselves at sea. They would have to access a Submarine bases for supplies and especially food. They could last for a while before they have to return to a dock but not 20 years.
Amazing job keep them coming your doing an amazing job
Another banger! Love your channel
If you ever watched The Last Ship, it had some interesting ideas of how a navy ship would handle an virus style end of the world. Season 1 has them facing off against the remnants of a rogue Russian fleet and then season 2 follows them dealing with a British Nuclear Submarine that's manned by mercenaries and pirates. Was honestly very interesting stuff until they sorta moved away from all that for the third and final season.
That sounds extremely interesting I’ve never actually heard of that. I’ll check it out!
You don’t miss great content 💪🏾💪🏾
Love your show. It touches on twd topics other shows dont touch . It was an easy choice to become a sub . Keep it up bud
Been binging your videos man. Nice work, very interesting stuff
Im not sure if its the same universe, but the michonne telltale game's story is only about a ship and the bandit community living on a ton of tied together vessels, so i imwgine there could be places like that in the current canon
That’s not part of the same universe as the show as the games form part of the comic series universe. However that doesn’t rule out that from happening in the show universe nor does it rule out the communities unless something in the show counter acts them.
Daniel Salazar is one of my favorite twdu characters
Dude awesome videos you got a new subscriber in me today. Keep up the good work
I also imagined this plot for a Tales of the walking dead episode.
Sinopsis: The "HMS Taunton", a former Royal Navy ship its contracted by a small communitie of survivors to defend them from pirates who come each month to treat them and take half his resources.
The pirate fleet are 3 ex US Navy destroyers, who also are at war with few vessels from Japan and Australian Navy for the conquest of the South pacific island survivors communities and its resources.
This finally end when the HMS Taunton defeat the American command ship, the USS Gerald Ford, an ex-aircraft carrier, and the captain of the Taunton its called "King of the seas of the south".
Yeah, could be a very interesting plot, a war for control over islands by ex-navy ships from many countries, specially UK, USA, Japan and Australia.
I can smell that filthy bias on your imagination
Yet another great video. Great concept to explore. What really annoyed me about FTWD was dropping Alex’s story from Flight 462. She was phenomenal!!! The actress was even nominated for an Emmy for this role. But the producers/writers just dropped her when she had soooo much potential. Would’ve rather seen her return instead of Madison
walkers falling in the ocean would be fish bait... fish and especially the scavengers love dead shit sharks would rip apart the dead the oceans wouldn't be infested for to long
Why not sail to the south Pacific? Lots of uninhibited islands down there.🤔
Good video sir. The part of fear twd on the Abigail is my favorite part of ftwd. I never gave much thought to pirates in the show. This was very interesting and well done ty
Hey thanks so much mate! This is actually one of my favourite videos I’ve made so I’m glad it’s still getting some love
My favorite Zombie stories come from the Oral History of the Zombie War.
In that book, There are a series of Oceanic communities that survive the Zombie War.
And in the Post-WWZ world most countries have their coastlines fortified and mined due to Zombies still washing up years after the outbreak.
Skimming through your home page and found this ... TH-cam recommendations suck .. how did they not recommend this one
Idea for next video/videos: A huge TWDU Timeline explanation. I think many are still confused on the timeline of the universe so you could make it clear in one big video explaining everything from the beginning to the modern times. You can use the timeline wiki page as a source 😁
That’s definitely gonna be in the works soon! It’ll be a huge undertaking tho so it might take awhile to finish
Nice channel way superior to the bigger walking dead channels.
I'm interested to see if the CRM has a navy, pretty clear they have a huge air force but besides the ship Rick tried to escape in we never see the CRM using navy vessels
I didnt see it as factions trading walkers using the ships, i thought of it more like it had to do with the experiments the pouvoir was doing, maybe they shipped out walkers from the states becaude the different conditions those walkers go through compared to ones locall to the pouvoir might influence the outcomes of their experiments
Please make a video about what we know about other countries in the TWD universe
The best pirate base would have been a oil rig, you would get a refueling station and it’s pretty isolated and easily defended
I always thought water zombies would just sink... and then break apart over time. But.. 🤷♀️🧟♀️
Would be cool Connor to return with a pirate hook
Love the theory's put forth here, my only wrinkle that I can see is all the blood/gore/rot in the ocean would probably attract sharks and other fish, Yes the walkers could easily dispatch various fish, but given that shark skin is incredible tough, I would think that it would turn into a feeding frenzy pretty rabidly, and potentially leaving nothing much more that at best walker heads floating around. Purely my 2 cents worth.
Absolutely without a doubt.
But that’s kind of an issue with the walking dead in general, most walkers would be eaten away by maggots and other things within the first few months, so it’s kind of just one of those things you have to suspend your disbelief for.
Umm, soft tissue decomposes super fast in water and sealife will eat the bones clean. There's no way there are years old zombies in the ocean.
I don't think Daryl was with that group long enough to find out anything important because he got kicked out for breaking their rules, the Pirate story in far would of worked better if the characters were older and rougher, and I would love to see a tales episode on pirate reenactors, I think that is the only way to do it modern day and there could be a scene where walkers are getting washed up against the side of the boat so much that it gets damaged and starts to sink
Even if they dont go back to old wooden ships, there's still plenty of sailing vessels out there, some even manable by just one or two individuals.
Edit: it would be interesting to see a reimagining of TWD if the outbreak happened more recently, with advancements in "green" energy sources and solar being more popularized for homes. Im sure there'd be some clever engineers out there rigging up solar panels on boats to run electirc motors and such to keep boats moving.
Plus the further proliferation of certain types of firearms in these last few years, plus their accessories (such as switches and suppressors), as well as related tactical equipment such as body armor and chest rigs, which would have been very helpful in the various armed conflicts and prolonged firefights Rick & Friends got in throughout the series. Even night vision and thermal devices, which would be in every military unit's armory and would've been extremely helpful against threats such as the Whisperers, especially the thermals.
If TWD started tonight, you'd have bands of goons formed by next month acting as mercenaries and scouts. Like that gal Daryl was with who was, apparently, a mercenary in the past, we'd have all sorts of people trying to be roaming mercenaries (except offering to cover guard shifts or join supply scavenging missions and sharing information instead of just raiding settlements and offing everyone before living off their supplies to do it again later (this for sure would still happen, yeah, so there'd be a dynamic of good and bad dudes roaming around it kit)) like "Stakeland" or something, hunting the dead and offering to fight people's wars for them since a group of freelancers raiding Negan's satellite outpost wouldn't have gotten Hilltop into trouble, especially if they left the area right after because things were gonna get too heated.
Of course, I think of more things after I hit post and move on. The new Daryl show is a good example of this, too, with the group of armed slavs that were hunting him before he reached Mont Saint Michel (The Nest). There would've been as many groups like that in America and Canada as there are hills in Appalachia. Even Mexico would have bands like that moving south from the US encountering the cartels, and offering protection to settlements against them and other such opportunities for men of talent.
Been replaying the telltale games lately.. I wonder if Kenny found another boat after season 2
it makes me wonder about sea fairing tribes across in places like asia and africa, where people who have lived for many generations on the sea.
Im really loving this channel.
But which trade ships are they going to raid?
I feel like the Atlantic and Pacific are very different in TWD. Lots of piracy off the West coast but the East Coast and Europe seem sort of dead and free. Maybe there were pirates before Carol's time 9n the water? More naval presence, CRM, Commonwealth, and survivors combating pirates in the early days so the Connors of the Atlantic were killed off early and a piracy culture never took root?
We also know that ships go from NFLD to France in Daryl Dixon, so there's transatlantic trade of some sort. Opening that corridor probably involved killing off pirates. Padre is also on the East Coast too.
Seems like there's not much going on in the West. Everywhere from Bogota to Anchorage was burned so there was no one to really facilitate trade or to secure shipping routes. Meanwhile Atlanta is the only Eastern city that got napalmed. Even NYC has life. Its a much smaller ocean with thriving communities on both shores. Also due to NATO, America, Canada, France, UK, and others would prioritize the North Atlantic in the early days so there would be more naval presence of multiple nations in the Atlantic over the Pacific.
If the world ended and zombies started to take over like the ones from the walking dead do you guys have a plan to protect yourselves and your family?
This is literally my plan in any apocalypse scenario
Pirates would have likely died off preying on each other without substantial coastal or safe ports to break at. Small groups would be wiped out or join larger groups, and larger groups would have to pirate each other for the supplies to maintain their ships.
The lucky planes arent the ones that fell in the ocean, its way safer for a plane to fall on land than on water
The real nightmare is people inself....💀
these pirates are more like buccaneers then yes there is a diffrence the buccaneers were basicly just trappers
Shoot! I've wanted Jesse McCartney to board me since back in the day! We can play shiver me timbers! I'm leaving now! 😹💀😹
Reminds me of Pirate seas in Plants vs Zombies 2
Missed opportunity, should have let the intro theme run until they say "never shall we die." 😅
Damn you’re so right haha
World War Z (the book) has this en masse
Oil Platforms.
Enclave style from Fallout
Awesome job, I would love to see a synopsis on The Claimers in season 4 and the connection to Rick’s Red machete as FTWD had Webisode I believe in season 3
I actually have a claimers video up! It doesn’t really cover the red machete but it covers the groups story
Are you telling me the VA for fucking Nightwing and roxas is a pirate in this show?
Any nuclear powered heavily armed naval ship would be able to survive
There's NOTHING of reality in shows like this. If there was, there'd be less drama and people watch for the drama.
i'd love to see whats going on in Japan, all those earthquakes and disasters on-top of zombies...
This vid almost makes fear seem interesting. Forced myself through season 1. I miss the season 1-5 OG glory days, AMC ruined a legendary show
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Fear went down the toilet after season 2
When society collapses, we just don't see this kind of lawlessness and violence. People are naturally inclined to band together and cooperate.
That's one thing I just despise about TWD. It just makes no sense the way groups interact with each other. Raiding and killing everyone gets you supplies one time and turns everyone else against you. Establishing trade gets you supplies forever and begins to help build trust and form communities which benefits everyone.
I just can't see humans NOT banding together, especially with walkers being a constant threat.
The whole humans are the real monsters thing is so overplayed and 2000s and it's stupid.
You live in fantasy land. Bet its great there.
@@mizzmia4407 solid rebuttal.
Look at Hurricane Katrina .
The people who were kept in the stadium 🏟
love your content bro