nah you lot in the comments are savage 😂 does anyone watching actually like the new ‘Mandem’ Manor gang? if so, would love to know why, if not why do you guys prefer the old Mandem? spill your tea lads & ladies
Generally I think a lot of their members have big egos with no credentials to back it. Like I understand if Mr K or Lang etc are petty/have big egos but it just does not make sense to me for this current group. I also think Mandem was way more fun oriented with Patar and Tommy back in the day. Like when GG wiped them on their block they were all laughing.
i think it depends on what roleplay from either groups people prefer. old mandem was top tier as content/sbs gang loved by most of the city and the manor is a revived end of 3.0 mandem that cut off loose ends (which should have happened in mandem mid 3.0) that apparently viewers think half the city hates them. what i like about both of the groups is the fact that they do not tolerate any kind of snitching at all yet the manor is hated which i am baffled at. i enjoy content/sbs but serious rp is story building for me which i like. people say they like old mandem but fuckin hell that was constant internal conflicts, meetings that went in circles, complacency within the gang, all talk no action, cliques formed and nobody is unified, no one respected anyone but the leader, every issue they had tried to be fixed toward the end of 3.0 but never was solved at all, moments when they got active were the best and them backtracking was annoying. with the manor, they aren't dealing with anymore internal bullshit, forced quotas to counter complacency, most everyone has been active, everyone is unified apart from new faces like terry and luke who both are stuck on ego which ex-mandem have faced in the past which was their downfall. the gang is just beginning to grow and people expect it to be a perfect steady slope but i hope to see moving forward some spark of maturity within the gang and movements that don't deter their progression.
@@augplushe yet the new faces are the ones causing problems for the group which sucks because I don't wish to have either of them tossed out but its counter-productive to have people that are liabilities and wanting to progress.
The old mandem was when they actually got shi done started doing banks , bobcat and shi like that the reason why I will always say Josh was such an amazing leader is because he knew how to read a room , he stoped Adam and Dwayne from doing dumb shi , he also knew how to make relationships with basically every single gang in the city , he did the gold with the angles, banks with nbc and cg helped him become the leader he was , sk and Matt joined late when mdm was respected highly
@@augplushe*no tf they didn’t 😭 stop tryna push a fake agenda and rewrite history, Those ppl started respecting Tommy T because he respected other criminals first and foremost. He helped and make MDM what it was. He did that himself with the crew he helped put together. He earned it. NOT because he was just “Zerkaa”*
@@warshallwathers7971 **🤣chris king is respectful to cg and others i don't see him getting invited to HEISTS** But yh keep telling yourself it wasn't cos he is zerkaa
@@warshallwathers7971 MDM was a shit gang that got clothes, block redecorated and prio bcoz of the Zerkaa. Even Adam and Zerkaa joked about using a Zerkaa card
Manor's biggest mistake will be their own constant comparisons and introspective talks about ''Old Mandem.'' The majority of this group wasn't a part of OG Mandem so how can they even have an opinion on it? OG OG Mandem was Tommy, Dwayne, Adam, Dean, Patar, Lana, Vince, Moses with cameos from Eli (and Stacey too for a period). The Mandem Sparky and Matt knew was the spray/gangapp-era Mandem, thats when ''peak Mandem'' was already over. The Seaside war was pretty much the end of it. Constantly talking about it and using ''Mandem'' in titles, like Matt's clip channel does just won't help them and it will also make the animosity (that Zerkaa wants to snuff out) grow even more towards them. Best course for them would be to go their own direction, cut all ties to ''Old Mandem'' and just do their own thing. You need to move on and not constantly look back. They need to focus on the Manor and not worry about Mandem. Let it go. Times change.
And the main reason why Tommy was such a great leader was that Zerkaa is so good at reading the room. He would always stop the boys from spouting a dumb narrative or mentality so it won’t cloud their whole mentality of the rest of the group. The Manor rn are using “old mdm” as a scapegoat for what not to do, when literally nobody there wasn’t there throughout the old mandem days 😭 the gang then wasn’t just a bunch of moses running around lmaoo SK joined when MDM was at its PEAK and that group compared to The Manor rn… 2022 Mandem easily wipes in terms of content, personalities and overall presence. Even 2021 early Mandem clears this group lol
@@PurpleAki23 I typed it for the people that will. A few upvoted it so I guess a few people enjoyed the read. Which is nice. If you dislike reading a few sentences you're free to just skip it.
the current group didn't really build the MDM name, but they didn't really network with anyone else back in 3.0. Sparky and crew came in during gang sprays time. That along with the time zone they are active in. There's not many they can really call their allies.
@@timo42069 no I didn’t, Hydra don’t dislike them they just don’t work together, also, you can’t blame ex MDM for that really can you? Hydra asked ex MDM for some butcoin, MDM said they can’t because they’re also grinding butcoin and so hydra got upset about it and “cut them off” even tho they don’t supply anything for them, connections are overrated, no connections is a different story, but in 4.0, being disliked isn’t the same as it was in 3.0, half the server snitches to cops ffs
@@notmeee496i wouldnt say dislike yet but Mr K said hes going to have a talk with them cause they causing problems w neighbors and bringing heat into the sack.
None of these egomaniacs were really mandem the way Dwayne, Adam, Moses, Tommy, Lana, Vince, Dean and Eli? were. They need to move on and continue the downfall experienced in 3.0. The Bungle of Idiots
Connections are well and good but Hydra or CG or anyone won't bat an eye to snake anyone regardless. I think SK is pulling a Matt Copium with him thinking others won't start shit wtith them due to connections. I do agree that Terry and Luke need to tone down the agression just a bit. They were presing everybodu for no reason
Only reason why MDM got a free pass in a lot situations in the past was due to Zerkaa being their protector. Only The Saints didn't care and didn't glaze Zerkaa. They did actual gang RP against MDM and MDM and their low IQ fanbase was shook. Still waiting on them being banned btw due to aimbotting, which every restarted MDM fanboy was crying about lol
Manor be spending their entire meeting trying to figure out their false story that covers what really happened, but all the respected gangs out here standing on business instead of scheming like it's all gonna end in a court case.
Zerkaa thinks that the audience will dislike them less if he starts hanging more with them. I feel like that will only cause even more distaste towards them.
Lets be real for a sec. He prefers hanging out with them coz he becomes the "main character", when he hangs out with his actual gang he's not the "main character" anymore. It's clear as day to notice
@@abcd73926 Yes, Zerkaa prefers to hang out with the people he’s spent the past 2-3 years with because he ‘wants to be the main character’. Totally that. Guess he invited them to his past two birthdays and Sidemen events for the same reason right? Had JME and Tobi come to their studio session so he’d ‘become the main character’ yeah?. Definitely spent his time making spreadsheets and tutoring them to help them further their careers for himself too right? You’re the perfect example of the exact reason he wanted to hang out with them more in game and start playing other games together because you’re fuelled by complete delusion and hatred over the mere mention of them hanging out. Your brain is fully lodged in RP my friend as is a lot of the people in this comment section, might want to yank that out. They’re IRL friends and have been for a good while now, time to get over it. He’ll always be more comfortable with them than anyone else on the server.
@@abcd73926 You're completely right. No circles form around him at CG. People just do their own thing. While with Manor/MDM they all run towards him like little puppies, stand around him and glaze him and he LOVES that. If he didn't love that he wouldn't have been in a gang with those glazers for so long. He was always the ''boring'' and ''least favourite'' Sidemen member and that also always hurt him for so long. When he started streaming/NP he suddenly got something that made him stand out and stans started to glaze him, calling him underrated and on NP people also glazed him and that was a huge ego boost for him.
@@augplushe From the streams I watched, Dundee/BBMC, CG and GG know who Dez is. So just based from that I wouldn't say nobody knows him. I also think he's been very active around G6 and one of the main people around G6 RP.
Old MDM was so afraid of any conflict RP that wasn’t internal conflict, the new group ‘The Manor’ isn’t, people overreact about how disliked they are when it’s only ex GG who have beef with them, they have connections, end of the day who cares if people like them, focus on yourself and making the gang better
Not true.The problem is that The Manor is not connected to any other groups in 4.0, you have to earn respect at some point from other gangs. Hydra, ADMC (Ex-bbmc new group), Besties, ex-gg, JP's new group. These are groups that "The Manor" got into trouble with.
@@dexpipo and how many of those conflicts were started by the manor? They have connections with the company, Patar who’s a big player in the sanitation game, obviously the Ballas, ADMC have agreed to sticking to business only with the manor, regardless of all this, connections are overrated, not having any connections is a different story, but currently, The Manor have as many connections as a normal ordinary gang does, MDM in 3.0 had as many connections as they did because Zerkaa was the leader let’s not lie, that won’t be the case in 4.0
You do understand MDM were scared of conflict and wars because the block was a terrible location for it. The amount of tall buildings and hiding areas near the Mdm block is actually insane.
nah you lot in the comments are savage 😂 does anyone watching actually like the new ‘Mandem’ Manor gang? if so, would love to know why, if not why do you guys prefer the old Mandem? spill your tea lads & ladies
Generally I think a lot of their members have big egos with no credentials to back it. Like I understand if Mr K or Lang etc are petty/have big egos but it just does not make sense to me for this current group. I also think Mandem was way more fun oriented with Patar and Tommy back in the day. Like when GG wiped them on their block they were all laughing.
The only reason this new mdm is good is bcoz of the new faces
@@Mas-ij3ti dumbest sht I've heard
i think it depends on what roleplay from either groups people prefer. old mandem was top tier as content/sbs gang loved by most of the city and the manor is a revived end of 3.0 mandem that cut off loose ends (which should have happened in mandem mid 3.0) that apparently viewers think half the city hates them. what i like about both of the groups is the fact that they do not tolerate any kind of snitching at all yet the manor is hated which i am baffled at. i enjoy content/sbs but serious rp is story building for me which i like.
people say they like old mandem but fuckin hell that was constant internal conflicts, meetings that went in circles, complacency within the gang, all talk no action, cliques formed and nobody is unified, no one respected anyone but the leader, every issue they had tried to be fixed toward the end of 3.0 but never was solved at all, moments when they got active were the best and them backtracking was annoying.
with the manor, they aren't dealing with anymore internal bullshit, forced quotas to counter complacency, most everyone has been active, everyone is unified apart from new faces like terry and luke who both are stuck on ego which ex-mandem have faced in the past which was their downfall. the gang is just beginning to grow and people expect it to be a perfect steady slope but i hope to see moving forward some spark of maturity within the gang and movements that don't deter their progression.
@@augplushe yet the new faces are the ones causing problems for the group which sucks because I don't wish to have either of them tossed out but its counter-productive to have people that are liabilities and wanting to progress.
The old mandem was when they actually got shi done started doing banks , bobcat and shi like that the reason why I will always say Josh was such an amazing leader is because he knew how to read a room , he stoped Adam and Dwayne from doing dumb shi , he also knew how to make relationships with basically every single gang in the city , he did the gold with the angles, banks with nbc and cg helped him become the leader he was , sk and Matt joined late when mdm was respected highly
No😂 cg angels and nbc helped cos he was zerkaa who are you lying to😂
@@augplushe*no tf they didn’t 😭 stop tryna push a fake agenda and rewrite history, Those ppl started respecting Tommy T because he respected other criminals first and foremost. He helped and make MDM what it was. He did that himself with the crew he helped put together. He earned it. NOT because he was just “Zerkaa”*
@@warshallwathers7971 **🤣chris king is respectful to cg and others i don't see him getting invited to HEISTS**
But yh keep telling yourself it wasn't cos he is zerkaa
@@warshallwathers7971 MDM was a shit gang that got clothes, block redecorated and prio bcoz of the Zerkaa.
Even Adam and Zerkaa joked about using a Zerkaa card
Manor's biggest mistake will be their own constant comparisons and introspective talks about ''Old Mandem.'' The majority of this group wasn't a part of OG Mandem so how can they even have an opinion on it? OG OG Mandem was Tommy, Dwayne, Adam, Dean, Patar, Lana, Vince, Moses with cameos from Eli (and Stacey too for a period).
The Mandem Sparky and Matt knew was the spray/gangapp-era Mandem, thats when ''peak Mandem'' was already over. The Seaside war was pretty much the end of it.
Constantly talking about it and using ''Mandem'' in titles, like Matt's clip channel does just won't help them and it will also make the animosity (that Zerkaa wants to snuff out) grow even more towards them. Best course for them would be to go their own direction, cut all ties to ''Old Mandem'' and just do their own thing. You need to move on and not constantly look back. They need to focus on the Manor and not worry about Mandem. Let it go. Times change.
And the main reason why Tommy was such a great leader was that Zerkaa is so good at reading the room. He would always stop the boys from spouting a dumb narrative or mentality so it won’t cloud their whole mentality of the rest of the group. The Manor rn are using “old mdm” as a scapegoat for what not to do, when literally nobody there wasn’t there throughout the old mandem days 😭 the gang then wasn’t just a bunch of moses running around lmaoo SK joined when MDM was at its PEAK and that group compared to The Manor rn… 2022 Mandem easily wipes in terms of content, personalities and overall presence. Even 2021 early Mandem clears this group lol
You lot need to get lives you think anyones reading all that
@@PurpleAki23-🤓
@@PurpleAki23how old are you mate?
@@PurpleAki23 I typed it for the people that will. A few upvoted it so I guess a few people enjoyed the read. Which is nice. If you dislike reading a few sentences you're free to just skip it.
They are already the most disliked group in the culdesac
the current group didn't really build the MDM name, but they didn't really network with anyone else back in 3.0. Sparky and crew came in during gang sprays time. That along with the time zone they are active in. There's not many they can really call their allies.
The only people who dislike them is ex GG + Jean Paul, who cares who’s the most disliked people on grove, it’s their turf anyways
@@notmeee496you forgot to add Hyrda
@@timo42069 no I didn’t, Hydra don’t dislike them they just don’t work together, also, you can’t blame ex MDM for that really can you? Hydra asked ex MDM for some butcoin, MDM said they can’t because they’re also grinding butcoin and so hydra got upset about it and “cut them off” even tho they don’t supply anything for them, connections are overrated, no connections is a different story, but in 4.0, being disliked isn’t the same as it was in 3.0, half the server snitches to cops ffs
@@notmeee496i wouldnt say dislike yet but Mr K said hes going to have a talk with them cause they causing problems w neighbors and bringing heat into the sack.
Some one said Zerkaa shit stains lol🤣
None of these egomaniacs were really mandem the way Dwayne, Adam, Moses, Tommy, Lana, Vince, Dean and Eli? were. They need to move on and continue the downfall experienced in 3.0. The Bungle of Idiots
Shut up man you're clearly liking them enough to follow RP and watch clips you melt
Old mandem didn’t move like this tho 💀 well not when zerkaa was around
@jane8229hand holders or these new egotistical nobodies 🤔… hmm which are worse lol
@@Gabriel-mn1zghand holders
Connections are well and good but Hydra or CG or anyone won't bat an eye to snake anyone regardless. I think SK is pulling a Matt Copium with him thinking others won't start shit wtith them due to connections.
I do agree that Terry and Luke need to tone down the agression just a bit. They were presing everybodu for no reason
Only reason why MDM got a free pass in a lot situations in the past was due to Zerkaa being their protector. Only The Saints didn't care and didn't glaze Zerkaa. They did actual gang RP against MDM and MDM and their low IQ fanbase was shook. Still waiting on them being banned btw due to aimbotting, which every restarted MDM fanboy was crying about lol
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Shut up man you're so wrong it's crazy
Moving as Individuals who does that remind me off, oh yeah sounds abit like Matt, Dean and Dwayne.
Hour long car talk.............. Manordem on your headtop
Ballas 4.0
Manor is in conflict with half the city, everyone dislikes them so i wonder if its a them problem or everyone elses problem.
some members have egos and don't want to "get walked over", while robbing and stabbing everyone. bound to happen.
Matt is just waffling lmo
it was meant to be a 1 on 1 but matt invited himself
Manor be spending their entire meeting trying to figure out their false story that covers what really happened, but all the respected gangs out here standing on business instead of scheming like it's all gonna end in a court case.
what? its not like theyre getting interrogated and have cover up what happened. u dont make sense at all 😂
Zerkaa thinks that the audience will dislike them less if he starts hanging more with them. I feel like that will only cause even more distaste towards them.
@@Ghost_23552 tommy was the main reason they were gatekeeping
Lets be real for a sec. He prefers hanging out with them coz he becomes the "main character", when he hangs out with his actual gang he's not the "main character" anymore. It's clear as day to notice
@@abcd73926 Yes, Zerkaa prefers to hang out with the people he’s spent the past 2-3 years with because he ‘wants to be the main character’. Totally that. Guess he invited them to his past two birthdays and Sidemen events for the same reason right? Had JME and Tobi come to their studio session so he’d ‘become the main character’ yeah?. Definitely spent his time making spreadsheets and tutoring them to help them further their careers for himself too right? You’re the perfect example of the exact reason he wanted to hang out with them more in game and start playing other games together because you’re fuelled by complete delusion and hatred over the mere mention of them hanging out. Your brain is fully lodged in RP my friend as is a lot of the people in this comment section, might want to yank that out. They’re IRL friends and have been for a good while now, time to get over it. He’ll always be more comfortable with them than anyone else on the server.
@@marisalong12 Holy paragraph. Cry all you want, what i said is a fact. He even said it himself 🤣🤣
@@abcd73926 You're completely right. No circles form around him at CG. People just do their own thing. While with Manor/MDM they all run towards him like little puppies, stand around him and glaze him and he LOVES that.
If he didn't love that he wouldn't have been in a gang with those glazers for so long. He was always the ''boring'' and ''least favourite'' Sidemen member and that also always hurt him for so long. When he started streaming/NP he suddenly got something that made him stand out and stans started to glaze him, calling him underrated and on NP people also glazed him and that was a huge ego boost for him.
wait Solomon who isn't in the manor is part of command for the manor, did i hear that right?
He is part of command for the admc
ADMC and manor are going to be closely linked if Solomon asks for manor to do something they will have a meeting like this and agree or work around
Why would they stabbed Dez that’s like stabbing Yuno the whole city is gonna be after you and
What nobody knows who dez is exempt gg thats because they know jack😂
Ramee during the shooting went to him and did the cookie voice 😂
@@augplushe From the streams I watched, Dundee/BBMC, CG and GG know who Dez is. So just based from that I wouldn't say nobody knows him. I also think he's been very active around G6 and one of the main people around G6 RP.
@@liquidflame34745 so does that mean cg and bbmc are gonna fight for him??
@@augplushe No he has a closer connection to Marty than he has to CG or GG or BBMC.
He's Marty's friend, very normal for him to back him.
@@liquidflame34745 I feel like ur arguing about something I haven't spoke about. The dummy said the **WHOLE CITY** will back dez
I understand xqc more than Luke holy
Cringe manor
Why you watching it then?
you sit in the car for 50 mins talking . i feel like thats all people do in roleplay stand around just talking so boring
The manor are lame, probably the worst gang to be in 4.0
Haha keep crying don’t watch them
They are though lmao Nobody really fucks with them @harry5143
only gang that dont handhold like bitches
Old MDM was so afraid of any conflict RP that wasn’t internal conflict, the new group ‘The Manor’ isn’t, people overreact about how disliked they are when it’s only ex GG who have beef with them, they have connections, end of the day who cares if people like them, focus on yourself and making the gang better
Not true.The problem is that The Manor is not connected to any other groups in 4.0, you have to earn respect at some point from other gangs. Hydra, ADMC (Ex-bbmc new group), Besties, ex-gg, JP's new group. These are groups that "The Manor" got into trouble with.
@@dexpipo and how many of those conflicts were started by the manor? They have connections with the company, Patar who’s a big player in the sanitation game, obviously the Ballas, ADMC have agreed to sticking to business only with the manor, regardless of all this, connections are overrated, not having any connections is a different story, but currently, The Manor have as many connections as a normal ordinary gang does, MDM in 3.0 had as many connections as they did because Zerkaa was the leader let’s not lie, that won’t be the case in 4.0
You do understand MDM were scared of conflict and wars because the block was a terrible location for it. The amount of tall buildings and hiding areas near the Mdm block is actually insane.
*The OG Mandem>>>> the “new” mdm/manor* 🥱
Yes if your on about Adam and Moses and Dwayne they were better but two of them are also banned one of them was a complete sicko
Not to mention Adam and Dwayne were part of the MDM drama wars back then as well. Manor just have a hard history to get away from in 4.0@@PurpleAki23
@@PurpleAki23 Zerkaa and Moses mainly lets be real.
Rome wasn’t built in a day mate give it some time people will come and go
@@PurpleAki23didn’t know Moses got banned