I’m on my second Beta 300re. I’m on a 2023. I like the carb feel. After riding a 2021 KTM300xcw yes these are not 2024’s.. To me the KTM was so smooth that it actually lacked feel and personality. The Beta is a blend of old school two stroke feel and new crisp, push start clean performance. The simplicity is indeed a great thing about Beta. I really like the Beta machines.
Yes, the same is true for me. I loved my 22 300 xcw but it was night and day versus the 24 beta. KTM closed some of the gap on responsiveness with the tbi but the carb on the beta still feels a bit better. The tbi is a great choice for riders that change elevations often and don’t want to mess with jetting.
Thanks for watching and commenting! I have a 50 hour review that will be out this week that has an honest opinion of the beta after 6 mos of owning the bike and comparing to the 24 KTM brands.
These new bikes are all so close that you can shop for best price and get a great bike. If you’re riding single track, for the Beta, either go with the rr or plan on revalving the suspension. The 24 forks on the husky and KTM are great as is for single track.
I had a sherco that I kept fouling plugs on. Lugging is all good and well until it isn't.. You either have to clear that thing out here and there, jet it a touch leaner, or change your fuel mixture. In my humble experience, *bikes* don't foul plugs, set up does.
Im at exactly 20 hours on my 24 300 Race as well….I absolutely love it. No issues yet but can definitely agree that the plastics are weak, cracked my front fender smacking a tree in a hare scramble. Luckily I was able to get a new fender but it took 5 weeks to come in.
Current model year decals and plastics availability can't be correlated with parts availability in general. Beta parts availability in general is phenomenal in the US. Parts can be ordered directly from Beta USA website. Availability is shown on the website. You'll be hard pressed to find parts that aren't stocked (other than current year plastics and decals). Beta USA has two warehouses; east coast and west coast. I literally get parts the next day at my door. Plastics and decals for previous year models are available. Beta has historically waited to release current year plastics and graphics, my assumption is its to encourage you to buy a new bike and not update your old one to look new.
I’ve put a lot of parts on this bike which, for the most part, beta requires me to purchase from them. For example, BPD protection parts, cycra handguards, etc. As I bought them, in most cases, I couldn’t get colors or styles that I wanted. If Beta has 2 warehouses then why has every single order shipped to me in Pennsylvania from Utah. 6 business days to deliver. There has been more parts availability and fit issues that I’ve also experienced with this bike. Don’t get me wrong, I like the Beta but there’s no comparison to parts availability with the KTM brands. Thanks for watching!
@@Weekendwarriorsmoto Beta has two warehouses, rest assured. The east coast is not as stocked as the west coast. I'm in Alabama and have had six Beta's since 2020. I go heavy on the parts both aftermarket and OEM. Have KTM's too. I'm completely unbiased. My experience has been its been harder to get KTM oem parts since Covid than it is to get Beta parts. Aftermarket availability is a completely different topic. With my 2024 300, I put 2023 plastics and graphics on it and stored the '24 plastics. For me the blue is hideous anyway.
I ordered parts from Jared at 3seas got them within a week. Plastic kit and rear taillight from letting a inexperienced friend try it out lol. Brutal loop out😂
Oh man, you only have to learn that lesson once ☠️. I’m a big fan of Jared and 3 Seas. He sold the bike to me and lots of parts. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great feedback! I’m going to give it a try. Now, I’m using the JD Jetting red needle but will try the Suzuki needle for comparison. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I haven’t ridden the RR but what I can tell you is that most of my friends who have ridden my RE comment that the suspension feels stiff. I feel that the RE is great in the faster flow trails. When it is rocky or choppy on the trails, the suspension feels stiff. I’m having the forks and shock revalved next week and will post some comparisons when I get the suspension back. With all of that said, I love the bike in the trails and it feels right at home when you dial up the speed. Has great balance, feels light and turns quickly on the trails. Thanks for watching!
The race edition is a cross country bike so for more fast paced riding. The XCW is much softer for more technical terrain. The nice thing about the KYB suspension on the beta is that there are a lot of good suspension tuners that can make it perform the way you’d like. Thanks for watching!
Highland Cycles on TH-cam has our same bike. He hit 50 hours and fouled both plugs also. Sooooo, I'm buying the $40 in plugs right now.....have a big weekend ride in Allegheny PA planned for the opening this coming Saturday. Don't need to find myself pushing....BTW, where did you find the plugs? Can't find any online and Beta USA is $31 each!....
@@Weekendwarriorsmoto Di you go with the OEM GR7CI-8 from the manual? I'm finding that only Beta sells those per NGK's website. I couldn't find the OEM GR7CI-8 on Amazon. I found what I am hoping is the equivelent from some Beta forums, the NGK 4055 BPR7EIX. Got some next-day delivered from AutoZone.
Great video pal. I’m in the uk & thinking about changing to a beta but I’m 6”3 tall & wondering if will feel to low down for me & no chance to test ride in the uk. Any help would be great. Thanks
I’m 5’11”. It feels a little shorter than the KTM XCW to me but comfortable. There are options for extended height seats and for different foot pegs positions that make help you. Thanks for watching!
That’s good to know. I asked as looking at the specs they are a fair bit lower then the ktm what I’ve been riding for past 5 years but fancy a change to see what the fuss is all about 👍
I feel like when purchasing a 2 stroke, you accept the responsibility that the plugs are going to foul, not if, but when, it will happen, especially in slower technical. I carry 1-2 extra plugs and a wrench in my pack when I’m out and about doing slow stuff. 2 strokes foul them, it is what it is, but I love your opinion on this bike, I’ve been looking hard at it, but I hit the dunes every once in a while, I worry about its performance in the sand being more of a trail bike
You may be right. When I was younger and had the older 2 strokes, I just carried extra plugs. Now, I’m a little spoiled having had a KTM tpi and never even removed the plug. It’s not a deal breaker for the beta but it was unexpected and untimely. I’m better prepared now. Sad to say that I’ve never ridden in sand 🙁. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Not necessarily true. On a Ktm 2 stroke, currently have 65 hours on same plug. I spend good amount of my time in the crunchy slow stuff. It's all how they're tuned.
Good feedback. I have my eye on one of these, riding a carbed orange bike now. I want new, but not injected. These betas look promising. I think your jetting is a slightly off. Saying youve only touched the main jet just adds to that suspicion. Even more since based on this video - you never got on the main jet. Anyway- thanks for the review. Happy riding!
You’ll like the beta if you are going for something different and you’ll appreciate the low end grunt and handling. I think you’re right on the jetting. It’s set exactly as the manual says but at the same time, the air screw is 1.25 out per the manual for 40-80 degrees at my elevation. Needle is 2nd position for the same temps per the manual. That’s why it may have loaded up.
Nice video, but you gotta get out and rev it a little bit more.Your riding style says Four stroke. I bought a 24 race edition 250, didn't want a 300. Didn't wanna get lazy. Sit down on the seat with my elbows down and not rev it, never had a problem with a plug. The 300 is the lazy mans 2 stroke.
Much has changed since this video. The bike now has an RK Tek head on it (single plug) and suspension revalving. It’s an Alpha now! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I owned, four betas over the last twenty five years, I love them.This is my first enduro bike, though. All others were trials. My enduro bikes have always been k t m's since the early eighties. I'm not really keen on buying a new motorcycle and having to replace the head I've had an issue with my 250. I had the dealer, put oil injection on it. And the cap it's not allowing airflow, so I get a suction and my oil in the oil line sucks back up into the tank. So every time I go to ride it, I have to prime it, and during my ride, I have to undo the cap to let the suction out. Needless to say, I've not ridden that much since I've owned the motorcycle in 3 months. I'm on my 3rd cap and waiting on a new shipment I'm not real happy about that.I might have to go back to k t m's never had a problem with them. By the way, I had oil injection put on it so I could ride it on the street and not have to worry about premix.
That’s disappointing. The people that have Beta’s seem to love them and are passionate about the brand. I’m not brand loyal. I like the bike but do expect the quality to be on par with other manufacturers. The head change for me was an upgrade and not a necessity. The stock head was fine and would have benefited from leaner jetting than beta recommends in the manual.
Yeah, I agree with you. I love the Beta like I said I've had the trials bikes for over 25 years. They've been excellent and so is my 250, but it's really annoying to have a simple problem like a oil cap. Hold me up from riding a $10000 motorcycle plus it's summer now in Arizona. And I won't be doing much riding anyway, so I missed most of my riding time with an oil cap problem.I didn't want to risk it.And end up seizing my engine.
I hope that you get back on the trails soon. In your first comment, you mentioned a 4 stroke. I have a KTM 350 also that I really like. Sounds like you need a second bike for times like these with the beta 😞
Me and another person in ontario made an order for a 2024 beta 300 race edition at beginning of February expected to arrive the end or April. Gotta call from the dealer just last week saying the representative of beta canada couldn't get it for me, they'll only be sending 1 race edition and the other guy gets it because he ordered a few days before me. No dirtbike for me. Dissatisfied with beta.
That’s really disappointing. When they can’t follow through for the initial purchase, it makes you consider other options especially when all of the 300 2-strokes are so close by comparison. Thanks for watching and I hope that you get your bike soon!
@@csmith7693 the dealer told me to look at beta usa home page cuz Canada's beta page is not good haha anyway told me to wait until October to order a 25 model. No thanks
@@Weekendwarriorsmoto I do too. They owe me back my deposit which is something they try really hard to avoid. Makes you wonder how many are being built? I really believe that beta has one of the best bikes. Any engines from Italy have been incredible performance wise. They can't meet the demand I'm guessing.
Yes, I agree. The KTM TBI is pretty close and if I changed elevations significantly during a ride, then it probably would have been my choice. Thanks for watching!
I’m on my second Beta 300re. I’m on a 2023. I like the carb feel. After riding a 2021 KTM300xcw yes these are not 2024’s.. To me the KTM was so smooth that it actually lacked feel and personality. The Beta is a blend of old school two stroke feel and new crisp, push start clean performance. The simplicity is indeed a great thing about Beta. I really like the Beta machines.
Yes, the same is true for me. I loved my 22 300 xcw but it was night and day versus the 24 beta. KTM closed some of the gap on responsiveness with the tbi but the carb on the beta still feels a bit better. The tbi is a great choice for riders that change elevations often and don’t want to mess with jetting.
Nice job that’s a good information and I appreciate the comparison to the 24 KTM‘s not much of that out there yet
Thanks for watching and commenting! I have a 50 hour review that will be out this week that has an honest opinion of the beta after 6 mos of owning the bike and comparing to the 24 KTM brands.
@@Weekendwarriorsmoto looking forward to this as I’m shopping the close out bikes from both brands presently.
These new bikes are all so close that you can shop for best price and get a great bike. If you’re riding single track, for the Beta, either go with the rr or plan on revalving the suspension. The 24 forks on the husky and KTM are great as is for single track.
I had a sherco that I kept fouling plugs on. Lugging is all good and well until it isn't.. You either have to clear that thing out here and there, jet it a touch leaner, or change your fuel mixture. In my humble experience, *bikes* don't foul plugs, set up does.
Thanks for the feedback. Happened one time and was probably an air screw setting that was a little too rich. Thanks for watching!
Im at exactly 20 hours on my 24 300 Race as well….I absolutely love it. No issues yet but can definitely agree that the plastics are weak, cracked my front fender smacking a tree in a hare scramble. Luckily I was able to get a new fender but it took 5 weeks to come in.
Yeah, the wait time is disappointing. My bike looks like frankenbike with different colored plastics but I do like the bike. Thanks for watching!
Great vid as always!
Thanks, Vince!
Current model year decals and plastics availability can't be correlated with parts availability in general. Beta parts availability in general is phenomenal in the US. Parts can be ordered directly from Beta USA website. Availability is shown on the website. You'll be hard pressed to find parts that aren't stocked (other than current year plastics and decals). Beta USA has two warehouses; east coast and west coast. I literally get parts the next day at my door. Plastics and decals for previous year models are available. Beta has historically waited to release current year plastics and graphics, my assumption is its to encourage you to buy a new bike and not update your old one to look new.
I’ve put a lot of parts on this bike which, for the most part, beta requires me to purchase from them. For example, BPD protection parts, cycra handguards, etc. As I bought them, in most cases, I couldn’t get colors or styles that I wanted. If Beta has 2 warehouses then why has every single order shipped to me in Pennsylvania from Utah. 6 business days to deliver. There has been more parts availability and fit issues that I’ve also experienced with this bike. Don’t get me wrong, I like the Beta but there’s no comparison to parts availability with the KTM brands. Thanks for watching!
@@Weekendwarriorsmoto Beta has two warehouses, rest assured. The east coast is not as stocked as the west coast. I'm in Alabama and have had six Beta's since 2020. I go heavy on the parts both aftermarket and OEM. Have KTM's too. I'm completely unbiased. My experience has been its been harder to get KTM oem parts since Covid than it is to get Beta parts. Aftermarket availability is a completely different topic.
With my 2024 300, I put 2023 plastics and graphics on it and stored the '24 plastics. For me the blue is hideous anyway.
I appreciate the feedback. As a consumer I just want what I want when I want it 😀.
I ordered parts from Jared at 3seas got them within a week. Plastic kit and rear taillight from letting a inexperienced friend try it out lol. Brutal loop out😂
Oh man, you only have to learn that lesson once ☠️. I’m a big fan of Jared and 3 Seas. He sold the bike to me and lots of parts. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Suzuki needle make a big difference on my 2023 300 race edition NEDH im at sea level in southwest Florida
Great feedback! I’m going to give it a try. Now, I’m using the JD Jetting red needle but will try the Suzuki needle for comparison. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I once rode my 2018 ktm 300 xc with the choke on(unknowingly)for half an hour. Didn't foul the plug. Just saying!
I was a witness to that skip! Austrian engineering superiority.
good for trail riding ? compared to the standard rr?
I haven’t ridden the RR but what I can tell you is that most of my friends who have ridden my RE comment that the suspension feels stiff. I feel that the RE is great in the faster flow trails. When it is rocky or choppy on the trails, the suspension feels stiff. I’m having the forks and shock revalved next week and will post some comparisons when I get the suspension back. With all of that said, I love the bike in the trails and it feels right at home when you dial up the speed. Has great balance, feels light and turns quickly on the trails. Thanks for watching!
You ride it like ur trying to foul a plug
Absolutely! I figure if I’m not fouling a spark plug now and then, am I even really riding? Thanks for watching!
Rider weight? Sag#? Premix ratio and brand? Pump gas octane? Altitude? You opinion is worth zero without.
210,105,50:1 1000ft 94. Lets go!
@@Weekendwarriorsmotohut, hut, hike!
@@Weekendwarriorsmotoheck yeh man simple answer. Love it.
So is the suspension equal to a xcw or xc?
The race edition is a cross country bike so for more fast paced riding. The XCW is much softer for more technical terrain. The nice thing about the KYB suspension on the beta is that there are a lot of good suspension tuners that can make it perform the way you’d like. Thanks for watching!
Highland Cycles on TH-cam has our same bike. He hit 50 hours and fouled both plugs also. Sooooo, I'm buying the $40 in plugs right now.....have a big weekend ride in Allegheny PA planned for the opening this coming Saturday. Don't need to find myself pushing....BTW, where did you find the plugs? Can't find any online and Beta USA is $31 each!....
I watched his video. Plugs are available on Amazon or direct through ngk. Hopefully it’s an anomaly. Thanks for watching!
@@Weekendwarriorsmoto Di you go with the OEM GR7CI-8 from the manual? I'm finding that only Beta sells those per NGK's website. I couldn't find the OEM GR7CI-8 on Amazon. I found what I am hoping is the equivelent from some Beta forums, the NGK 4055 BPR7EIX. Got some next-day delivered from AutoZone.
For the 24 race edition 300, correct plug is the MR7 BI 8 (ngk). I bought a couple on Amazon.
I caught it in your video. You mentioined you went to the dealer for your plugs. Thanks brother!
@@Weekendwarriorsmoto Oh ok. Wow, I got some wrong info there. Where did you find the info on the equvilent of the OEM plug?
Great video pal. I’m in the uk & thinking about changing to a beta but I’m 6”3 tall & wondering if will feel to low down for me & no chance to test ride in the uk. Any help would be great. Thanks
I'm 6'1" on the 24' 300 RR RE. I'm positive you'll fit nicely.
The beta race edition is not a low bike whatsoever. It sits over an inch taller than my yz250 2 stroke.
I’m 5’11”. It feels a little shorter than the KTM XCW to me but comfortable. There are options for extended height seats and for different foot pegs positions that make help you. Thanks for watching!
That’s good to know. I asked as looking at the specs they are a fair bit lower then the ktm what I’ve been riding for past 5 years but fancy a change to see what the fuss is all about 👍
@@danrayner4699 I think the Ktm pds is one of the tallest bikes on market.
I feel like when purchasing a 2 stroke, you accept the responsibility that the plugs are going to foul, not if, but when, it will happen, especially in slower technical. I carry 1-2 extra plugs and a wrench in my pack when I’m out and about doing slow stuff. 2 strokes foul them, it is what it is, but I love your opinion on this bike, I’ve been looking hard at it, but I hit the dunes every once in a while, I worry about its performance in the sand being more of a trail bike
You may be right. When I was younger and had the older 2 strokes, I just carried extra plugs. Now, I’m a little spoiled having had a KTM tpi and never even removed the plug. It’s not a deal breaker for the beta but it was unexpected and untimely. I’m better prepared now. Sad to say that I’ve never ridden in sand 🙁. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Not necessarily true.
On a Ktm 2 stroke, currently have 65 hours on same plug. I spend good amount of my time in the crunchy slow stuff. It's all how they're tuned.
@@jhill5002 what year?
2022
2022
Good feedback. I have my eye on one of these, riding a carbed orange bike now. I want new, but not injected. These betas look promising.
I think your jetting is a slightly off. Saying youve only touched the main jet just adds to that suspicion. Even more since based on this video - you never got on the main jet.
Anyway- thanks for the review. Happy riding!
You’ll like the beta if you are going for something different and you’ll appreciate the low end grunt and handling. I think you’re right on the jetting. It’s set exactly as the manual says but at the same time, the air screw is 1.25 out per the manual for 40-80 degrees at my elevation. Needle is 2nd position for the same temps per the manual. That’s why it may have loaded up.
Nice video, but you gotta get out and rev it a little bit more.Your riding style says Four stroke. I bought a 24 race edition 250, didn't want a 300. Didn't wanna get lazy. Sit down on the seat with my elbows down and not rev it, never had a problem with a plug. The 300 is the lazy mans 2 stroke.
Much has changed since this video. The bike now has an RK Tek head on it (single plug) and suspension revalving. It’s an Alpha now! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I owned, four betas over the last twenty five years, I love them.This is my first enduro bike, though. All others were trials. My enduro bikes have always been k t m's since the early eighties. I'm not really keen on buying a new motorcycle and having to replace the head I've had an issue with my 250. I had the dealer, put oil injection on it. And the cap it's not allowing airflow, so I get a suction and my oil in the oil line sucks back up into the tank. So every time I go to ride it, I have to prime it, and during my ride, I have to undo the cap to let the suction out. Needless to say, I've not ridden that much since I've owned the motorcycle in 3 months. I'm on my 3rd cap and waiting on a new shipment I'm not real happy about that.I might have to go back to k t m's never had a problem with them. By the way, I had oil injection put on it so I could ride it on the street and not have to worry about premix.
That’s disappointing. The people that have Beta’s seem to love them and are passionate about the brand. I’m not brand loyal. I like the bike but do expect the quality to be on par with other manufacturers. The head change for me was an upgrade and not a necessity. The stock head was fine and would have benefited from leaner jetting than beta recommends in the manual.
Yeah, I agree with you. I love the Beta like I said I've had the trials bikes for over 25 years. They've been excellent and so is my 250, but it's really annoying to have a simple problem like a oil cap. Hold me up from riding a $10000 motorcycle plus it's summer now in Arizona. And I won't be doing much riding anyway, so I missed most of my riding time with an oil cap problem.I didn't want to risk it.And end up seizing my engine.
I hope that you get back on the trails soon. In your first comment, you mentioned a 4 stroke. I have a KTM 350 also that I really like. Sounds like you need a second bike for times like these with the beta 😞
Me and another person in ontario made an order for a 2024 beta 300 race edition at beginning of February expected to arrive the end or April. Gotta call from the dealer just last week saying the representative of beta canada couldn't get it for me, they'll only be sending 1 race edition and the other guy gets it because he ordered a few days before me. No dirtbike for me. Dissatisfied with beta.
That’s really disappointing. When they can’t follow through for the initial purchase, it makes you consider other options especially when all of the 300 2-strokes are so close by comparison. Thanks for watching and I hope that you get your bike soon!
Beta Canada is completely different than Beta USA. I've heard not so good things about Beta Canada.
@@csmith7693 the dealer told me to look at beta usa home page cuz Canada's beta page is not good haha anyway told me to wait until October to order a 25 model. No thanks
That sucks. I feel for the dealers in that situation.
@@Weekendwarriorsmoto I do too. They owe me back my deposit which is something they try really hard to avoid. Makes you wonder how many are being built? I really believe that beta has one of the best bikes. Any engines from Italy have been incredible performance wise. They can't meet the demand I'm guessing.
Cant beat a carb on a 2 stroke
Yes, I agree. The KTM TBI is pretty close and if I changed elevations significantly during a ride, then it probably would have been my choice. Thanks for watching!