In his previous video, Sheker shows us some statistics: Child Marriage in India - less than 2% Tripple Talk - less than 2% Every other Jihadi issue - less than 2% And Shaker wonders openly "why do we need laws to control these, tiny %!" Now, let me give the uncle, another statistics: Homicide in India - Less than 0.00025 Percentage. I think we should nullify all the laws against homicide using Sheker uncle's logic. If he can address this, i will take 10 subscriptions.
@@yourballsinmyfisticansquee5374 Dude you must post it in main comments, not in comments of comments. ThePrint's and Shekhar's pandering to muslim extremism and their dogged anti-hinduness is legendary.
@@yourballsinmyfisticansquee5374 Based on your comment it is clear that you are a Nafrati, bigot, fool. First of all you don't understand simple things. You are comparing crimes with Social and religious issues. Now let's see in details. Hindu also have multiple wives and it is just some decimal points less than Muslims. Muslims are 1/5 of Hindus in India so count wise der are more Hindu women who are suffering than any Muslim women. Child marriage. Muslims as per the current law can marry der girls at the age of 15 but Hindus cannot do that. Go to any village and you will see many of Hindu girls married below the age of 15. This is becoming less and less for every religion by each passing day. Triple Talaq - 2% was for women who are 40-50+ years old. For muslims der women can marry after Triple Talaq. What about Hindu women. For example, what about Modi ji wife? Modi ji didn't want to live family life. It was his choice. But he didn't ask her wife. He left her. If in her place a muslim women who got triple Talaq would have suffered temporarily but vould have married someone else. She could not. This is just an example to ipen the eys of Jahil like you. Also the percentage for hindus were half of that of muslim but count wise Hindu women will be way more than muslim women But you don't care about Hindu women. Actually you don't care about anyone. You are a Nafrati, Jahil who can only live on hate.
Hi! I am an Advocate, practicing in Islamabad High Court, In short Imran did one thing and that is he convinced people including me that the problem is not politicians, nor did India or someone else, but the establishment itself.
he is not wrong , he is correct but the transfer of power from Army to imran khan should be peaceful you can't do civil war for that bro let the army institution have debate within and with pti people should not damage their own country that will only make a case for marshal law
Why did it take more than 70 years to realise this? Your army has destroyed your country, attacked India multiple times, does cross border terrorism. Why can't educated Pakistanis understand this? Is it the brainwashing?
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Dear sekhar ji, i have to confess that although I have read this national interest on print website today morning yet I listen to this video just bcz of some magic present in ur voice and the way u narrate Sir is a gift for listeners like me who sometimes wonder how time flies by listening to your videos. Thank u
true that except the fine print would be the current framework of 'democracy' defined by the West is nothing but full of corporate greed, cronyism and financial slavery of poor nations set by their institutions!!! Sad that no body talks about that!! Western countries first need to reform their own democratic framework and clean up years of their own mess!!!
@@OrangePumpkin150 its more about societal culture and institutions i think , education is not an issue..we had a literacy of 10% when our republic was born..still around sub saharan levels.
Just to add. Khan has not taken on the Military Establishment's vast empire. Has not mentioned Milbus once. He keeps his criticism narrowed to a few individuals so that the Establishment can have the ability to remove these individuals, bringing Khan back to correct their "mistake" and restore their image.
History's great military failures happened when leaders bit off more than they could chew on: Hitler, Napoleon both attacked all the Western European nations (France, Britain, etc.) as well as the Eastern ones (Russia) at the same time. That is a recipe for disaster. Niazi could be doing the correct thing by attacking the problem one enemy at a time instead of uniting them by attacking all at once.
One of the best news content I have seen in a long time. The insights on liberty and democracy in this episode should be broadcasted to everyone who wants to participate in one. Thank you Shekhar Gupta and the Print.
Damn it guys, this guy is just throwing the western propaganda at you. He basically wants to kill Democracy to stop Imran from winning. The alternative is dictatorship via military like it has always been. If democracy is strong, even if Imran fails to delivery, he can be changed. But shamelessly implying democracy is bad is pure evil on his part. And you guys like it.
Problem in pakistan is the interfere of establishment in all institutes . Army should not interfere or side with political parties also there should be accountability in the army , this means structural changes . No one should be above the law
Pakistan is an artificial country. If army doesn’t do that Pakistan will break up. India is unionised by a 5000 year old civilisation with shared culture, religion and values. There’s nothing Pakistani about Islamism. It is an imported ideology forced upon conquered people. As soon as pak army looses control true democracy will come up and Pakistan will break up into four.
They're interfering because the civilians are a corrupt bunch of elites. In their minds they're trying to _SAVE_ Pakistan, not destroy it. For example they realize what a terrible mistake they've made with Imran Khan Niazi, and trying to correct it now. However they are like a man carrying a hammer who thinks every problem is a nail. In other words, they apply the same solution to every problem: force. And that's not going to work now; they cannot force their way out of Pakistan's economic failure. BTW, I'm no supporter of Pakistan Army; they brought your country to this situation. But neither is Niazi a _masiha_ who will cure Pakistan's problems.
Or anywhere in India. Elections are respected even in UP, bihar and the poorest corners of India. Ofcourse some idiots complain about EVMs but every country has got their own idiots.
I wish Bengal was like that. Not talking about who'll win and who'll lose, but just that people can vote without getting terrorized by political goons.
@@arunsar7893 There might be a deeper problem there. Historically the Bhadra Lok had lorded it over the Chotta Lok (Dalits , Nama Shudras etc) in Bengal as Zamindars while using Muslims as the muscle/enforcers. This was the case under the Bengal sultanate and the British , both of whom cared only about the Tax collection. This alliance of the Bhadra Lok with Muslim muscle power continued after independence under the Congress ( B C Roy to SS Ray), CPM ( Basu to Budhadev) and TMC. The Chotta Lok of Bengal is numerically larger but extremely weak. This is as opposed to most of North India where all caste groups have a shot at power following the Mandal/Mandir churn of the 90's.
With all the policy flaws of Nehru. we must always remember and thank him for sowing the seeds of democracy that deep. Also the early army generals who laid the foundations of a professional armed forces.
When Narendra Modi Congratulates Congress party on winning Karnataka elections , a election in which he was so involved in shows character of our democracy there are many constitutional provisions in India topple state governments modi did not and it shows people aren't voting for a autocracy
I always listen to Shekhar Gupta's views, which are precise, analytical, and focused. Thanks, Shekhar and Print, I am a subscriber to Print because of the critical, analytical, and democratic views of yours and team Print. No chance of any illusion. Thanks Print..
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No friendship with double speaking politicians and public. If minorities are disastrously undermined and tortured , terrorised and forcefully converted then a true and the largest democracy of the world has nothing to do with such friends .
One of the best NIs I've ever come across. BTW 'IQBAL' could be translated to trust or credibility but one must be careful not to translate it to faith or popularity
As an avid follower of Pak politics, I must say that Imran Khan has this clout - whether it is because of his gift of the gab or because he once won a world cup (a pretty ludicrous reasoning - but then it seems so important for both IK and his followers), or because he is good looking or because of his use of the religion card - whatever be the reason - he seems to be a force to reckon with. I agree with Shekarji that once elected he will be a disaster for the nation. As I see it now, the only way to stop him is to allow him to get elected - the implosion of the country will then occur, because thereafter his Government has to focus on raising the economy of the country. None of his attributes will help him there. He will fall, The country then will rise like the proverbial phoenix. Hopefully.
He has this clout because of the trust we have, and we all know he is not corrupt and our country will be in better hands. Yes there are and were governance issues. But the major success was health card, providing free health services. But no other reasons are there just than that. Plus religion card was if successful, Fazlur Rahamn then should succeed. Yes he has worked for religion but not any religion card. And we too hope that he emerges as a stronger and wiser leader. If establishment ever allows him to be back in power. Yes we are having very critical times ahead. But even now, if we don't elect a right person, then where wil be Pakistan from 10 years now??
@@whatsinthetown2825 do you think imran can bring back economic stability?........I know he is not a magician.......what iam trying to ask is, is he had competitive people within his party to accomplish this task?...........
Definitely a man of calibre of Imran Khan definitely do well than the others. He is honest and hava a great vision for the betterment of Pakistan. Army should keep away from politics. Present Army commander is Sheriff's right hand man.
@@khabibnurmagomedov8581 I am just going with this believe.. Where as right people are concerned very little people around him seem to be right. Truly speaking. But he is the only option for Pakistan so I hope he brings up right people. Plus how much the situation has deteriorated economically is beyond any magic now. It will def take atleast 10 years if he is allowed to work ..🤷♀️
People change...IK, wiser from experience and sound public support, may go for bold steps for friendship with neighbours and trade & economic development which, with Army in the barracks, will be good for Pakistan!
Imran Khan has become a huge phenomenon especially after 9 May. However, the nation is marred by huge financial issues apart from zillion other issues. It won't be easy for even Imran Khan to save the country in the immediate future.
I remember the other recorded phone call of IK w the woman politician where he says that he wants to go "all the way" with her. Wonder how sadeeq & ameen that is. Or is that the qualifying bar?
Seems to be one difference between the middle east and Pakistan when it comes to "secular military" - Pakistan military is probably radicalized. In fact it was Zia that started the radicalization journey of Pakistan - and the current chief has apparently memorized the Quran. So either way its a pain.
Thanks Shekar sir. Keep up the good work and analysis of pak politics. When friends and colleagues discuss/ask me to explain what is happening in Pakistan. I have to share your videos. And I will confirm that even ardent islamist or pro-Pakistani (anti India) friends will admit that your observations are neutral and not tainted by your nationality or religion. To their chagrin, the only complaint they have against you is that you are so neutral in your observation. Everybody just wants the answer sheet and not do their own thinking. Lots of love and I wish you good health. ❤️ May one day true peace, respect and love come between 🇵🇰 and 🇮🇳
Thank you so much, Haroon, for the kind words and your generous contribution. Your support to ThePrint is much appreciated. Perhaps what you hope for will come true one day...who knows if it will be in my lifetime. I wish you much good health...stay well...my warm best wishes, Shekhar
The question is will it be good for India or not? It does not matter that Imran is able to come back, whether the army is capable to come back or not... How does this impact India is all that matters...
Sorry to wake you up, but india is not the center of the universe. So no, if he is good or bad for india is not all what matters. If he is good, which i am damn sure he will be, or not for HIS country Pakistan is what matters most
@@elpatron762 I don't think you are paying attention. The Print is an Indian news media, This program is called "The National Interest". The Nation it refers to is India. Most foreign events are discussed by SG on how it impacts India. By the way, I think Imran coming to power will be good for India but not so much for Pak based on his track record. The financial crisis there is due to his economic mis-management (eg: cheap gasoline during his tenure lead to forex drain). The insurgency Pak faces in KP happened due to his Afghan/Taiban policy of the last 20+ years. He has burned his bridges with the US. He did nothing regarding the Baloch insurgency.
@@elpatron762 don't worry about waking me up. It doesn't matter to me or us whether he is good for HIS country... It matters to me and us that it doesn't affect us adversely....
Of course what matters most is the impact imran has on Pakistan and there are other programs that cover that, even on The Print but this program specifically looks at the impact of various events on India.
4:37 That definition and importance of democracy. Beautiful lines with well prepared speaker. Thanks SG. At least we can boasts of our freedom fighters.
Great leaders don't seek power. Great leaders simply rise to people's expectation. ~Idk who said this, I read it somewhere. But one thing I am sure of is that Imran is not a great leader. Neither is the sharif or bhutto family. I just want people of Pakistan to see the reality - India was never your enemy.
Main problem with Islamic countries is that they are all autocratic. Turkey is a prime example on why Erdogan won more votes despite the quake. Opposition was looking Westwards. But all these countries also migrate Westwards and not to Islamic countries. This question is baffling. German journalist commented that Turks in Germany vote for Erdogan but do not want to live and work there
SG is making a grave mistake of comparing Arab army/dictator with Pakistan army and assuming Pakistan Army to be bulwark against Islamization. Zia-up-haq was original populist and several Pakistani general harbor these tendencies. When it comes to Islamization Imran Khan will be not much different then current army.
Pakistan failed to have someone like Nehru & othrs immediately after independence, who ruled for 15+ years to show what democratic country may look like
They had a popular leader in Jinnah, before whom Gandhi and Nehru begged to not let the partition happen, but man did not flinch. If we take a glimpse on Pakistan's history, the events that are occuring now are not much of a surprise. Like Shekhar said, there has to be a lot of groundwork(setting up of institutions, creation of visionary leaders debating on the idea of the new India) to be done before establishing a democracy which India did. Pakistan was created solely based on religious grounds (The promise land for Muslims). A religion of which even the creator himself-Jinnah, was not an ardent follower. The precedence of millitary interfering with the civillian government was set soon after independence. Then how can anyone expect a smooth transition of power in such a hostile political ecosystem, where prime ministers are elected, removed, assassinated or made to flee away as per millitary's convenience?
Mr Shekhar seems to ignore the fact that Imran Khan has already ruled the country for 4 years and did not show any obvious dictatorial intent, so I don't think he will try anything like this if gets re-elected. Also, his party PTI has some very strong personalities and individuals who won't support him with such acts. Also, it's not like Pakistani people have multiple options, it's really either him or those certified corrupts in PDM.
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Thank you for the kind words, Manish, and for your contribution and support to our journalism. I assure you quality, unhyphenated journalism. Welcome to ThePrint family...best wishes, Shekhar
What i don't understand is how come this all powerful army of theirs has suddenly turned into a shell of its past? After all they're supposed to be controlling everything
1st, for years army convinced people especially youth that these people who are now in power, are corrupt, inefficient and security risk for the country. 2. At the same time they started promoting Imran khan, and they all of a sudden they decided to retrieved their support from Imran Khan and directed their support to the people whom they publicly declared enemy of the country. 3. But this time due to many factor specially the increasing awareness because of social media, made things different. The respect the army had even during Martial laws, is gone. Even though they says that we are demonized because we are supporter of democracy.
Country which want funds from abroad can't exibit autocracy or dictatorship or civil war. So military's hands are tied in a way although they can be far worse.
I am a Pakistani and have been travelling a lot for more than 25 years. I met many Indians and we never been hostile to each other. We shred good chat and meal. Why as Country we call hostile to each other?
Shekhar ji I respect you but when ever someone says weak or destabilize Pakistan is bad for india I hate that person. military and extremist religious parties in power in Pakistan is beneficial for us. Where are e can excuse and attack to get POK, and there will be little support from west for these extremist religious parties and army smash their head. If I were to become PM of india I will fire all these submissive people who say make better relations with other Pakistan, I would like to fire them and get POK then get all these submissive people back to sweet talk the world. Without POK our connection to Central Asia, EU, Russia in incomplete. I have interest in POK only for its strategic location, same with a islands in Indian Ocean and some parts of Bangladesh, although due our civilization and soft power sindh should be in India. This submissive thinking brought india down even when we won wars
Imran Khan has taken this route ...obviously he has the support of many influential people in the army. Even pak judiciary is acting in this way due to some backing from within the army. Trust me things are heading fast towards a COUP against the current chief !!!
When Indians like Shekhar Gupta - for whom I have always had great respect - get the basics of Pakistani politics so wrong, i really start to worry as a Pakistani: the army has never been a stabilizing force; Imran Khan is not at all like Morsi and Pakistan is fundamentally different from countries in the Middle East; Nor is the PTI anything like the Muslim Brotherhood.
In Pakistan army establishment enjoys almost 75% of the country's wealth. When Imrankhan exposes this corruption to the people of Pakistan army is now trying to remove him fom contesting the election. Contrary to what you have said, the army is not providing stability but sucking out the wealth of the country. This is a do or die battle for the people of Pakistan to free the economy from the clutches of the army establishment.
@Look Into It No prime minister in Pakistan has survived without endorsing the plunder of the economy by the army establishment. IK is different then he fell out of their favour. This is the fact.
The corruption in the Pak military was first exposed by a lady named Ayesha Siddiqa in a book called Military Inc. in 2007. It is just that 99% of the people of Pakistan were blinded by their hatred of India to even consider anything like that.
That an irony some time someone is righteous for democracy but on the other hand can also be disastrous for his same country !! Hope all so called countries projects themselves as champions of democracy will now support !! Only time can tell !!
The quote on the portals of North Block is attributed to Charles Caleb Colton. Some further attribute it also to Benjamin Franklin. I have always held it to be very prescient as well as ironic. Prescient, because I felt the British were trying to give us a message. Ironic because, within 18 years of their building this great edifice, palpably to last a thousand years, they had to leave India giving us our liberty. Yet, I have always held it to be a very important message and have alluded to it in many forums. In fact for a moment it appeared to me that you have picked my own thoughts.Thank you
Its so obvious Gupta, whenever your topic is Pakistan, even a street winder can preict your next word, phrase or thought ... that much for your intellect honesty ...
Imran popularity is like the popularity of any Right Wing leader or any ultra left leader in any country. A more centralist leader doesn't command this type of euphoria bcz der supporters are mostly sensible and see everything before committing themselves to anything. RW or Ultra Left supporters do anything as der leader asks them to do without using der own brain.
@@meinmovingimage3193 Arrey yaar. Do you think her supporters would have attacked German Parliament if she had lost any election? Obama was popular. But his supporters would not storm Capitol hill or Democrat didn't shout election was stolen when Al Gore lost Florida by 537 votes only. You need a Trump to do that. Being popular and being a crazy RW or Ultra Left Fan is different. Trump was like that and Modi too. Do you think a congress voter will ever say publically that I will buy petro at 200 rs per litre but support the congress government. It doesn't happen. You need some special tallent(?) to do that.
Imran was against US and US done a coup. It will increase the existing terrorism in Pakistan and it will spillover to India and to China. And that's exactly what US want. It will also increase the US arms sale. It's better for India, Pakistan and China to become Imran as Pak PM. But US will not allow for a stable South Asia. Yes; Geopolitics is complex...
Mr. Shekar, I totally disagree with your, for the first time on this CTC. A leader who pays lip service to ’sane’ economics to win an election but then goes about insanely in managing the economy is more terrible, than one who captures power with insane promises and is forced by the emptiness of the Kitty to do all sane things. (BJP - 2014 VS. Congress - 1991). Democracy is a great leveller and no amount of justification can be fair for postponement of elections. Who knows if Imran comes to power, will think radically and realise that friendlier relationship and trade with India is the only way to restore the sagging Pakistani economy?
There's always so much to learn for everyone, including me, never mind the age. I'm glad you liked this episode. Do keep watching and writing in. Thank you for your support...best wishes, Shekhar
What Coupta is saying is, India is a democracy only because of its Hindu majority. We must let Pakistan choose its own path. We must send any Pakistan sympathizers to go wallow in the mud over there and never cast an evil eye on India. But Coupta and his ilk are preparing to ensure by 2047 that only believes with Sadik & Amin can rule Bharat. Crazy times ahead.
If the people elect Imran, then he will be the PM. I don’t think a journalist like Sekhar Gupta is in a position to advise if Imran is suitable for the post.
And ImranKhan is not anti-western, he keeps giving examples of western Democracy to us in every speech. He keeps telling us to learn from India and from west. Along with that he mentions what we can learn from Prophet Muhammad. Imran Khan doesn't stand for Islamization or anti western Democracy but a Rational Voice Pakistan has never had.
Rational sounds good Asal me shekhar ji ko arvind aur imran jaise neta nahi pasand Ye indian express do do page ke article arvind ke khilaf likhte the, Inke hisab se achanak se revolution la dena, power topple kar dena ek mature nation ki nishani nai h, N may be is right Hmare jaise mediocre mindset vale log shayad is bat ko na samjhe
Army ousted him with the help of America, this is the truth… Imran showed that paper in his all jalsas& even to army generals + Bajwa +pm, but they were bound to show …Imran khan as a lier… in sab nay wo paper dekha tha… but jaan bhoojh kay unho nay disown kya! Bcoz sab uskay khilaf hogaye! aur wo akela larta raha… iss mafia kay sath… wo inka sath kabhi bhi nahi daiga ! Ghalat ko ghalat kahey ga
@@fatimaimran7645 it is not true. the paper said nothing of the sort. but you weird people want division. i hope all of you suffer the consequences of your actions. he is a loser just like you. furthermore speak English on an English platform...
Success and sustainability of pakistan lies in one and only one thing and that is modern democracy....honest and secular state , honest and secular government and civilized , honest , small and secular ARMY, Good economy. Otherwise it is bound to FAIL.❤❤
Democracy is a form of government in which the people have the authority to deliberate and decide legislation, or to choose governing officials to do so. In the end let the people decide. People will sooner or later choose the best option.
People need to understand the two terms ‘Democracy’ and ‘Republic’…most people don’t even realise how significant it is to understand the 2 words… India/US are NOT just democracies they are great REPUBLICS… Pakistan has historically had tough time trying to define a constitution…and the final version that did stick was ‘Islamic Republic where the sovereignty lies with Allah’ … Pakistan cannot sustain as a nation state … the only inevitable end-game is the breaking of Pakistan.
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In his previous video, Sheker shows us some statistics:
Child Marriage in India - less than 2%
Tripple Talk - less than 2%
Every other Jihadi issue - less than 2%
And Shaker wonders openly "why do we need laws to control these, tiny %!"
Now, let me give the uncle, another statistics:
Homicide in India - Less than 0.00025 Percentage. I think we should nullify all the laws against homicide using Sheker uncle's logic.
If he can address this, i will take 10 subscriptions.
throw in one pen, one diary and one cup of The Print and I am ready for a six month subscription (ready to send mail after taking)
@@yourballsinmyfisticansquee5374 Dude you must post it in main comments, not in comments of comments. ThePrint's and Shekhar's pandering to muslim extremism and their dogged anti-hinduness is legendary.
@@yourballsinmyfisticansquee5374 Based on your comment it is clear that you are a Nafrati, bigot, fool.
First of all you don't understand simple things. You are comparing crimes with Social and religious issues.
Now let's see in details.
Hindu also have multiple wives and it is just some decimal points less than Muslims.
Muslims are 1/5 of Hindus in India so count wise der are more Hindu women who are suffering than any Muslim women.
Child marriage. Muslims as per the current law can marry der girls at the age of 15 but Hindus cannot do that.
Go to any village and you will see many of Hindu girls married below the age of 15. This is becoming less and less for every religion by each passing day.
Triple Talaq - 2% was for women who are 40-50+ years old.
For muslims der women can marry after Triple Talaq. What about Hindu women.
For example, what about Modi ji wife? Modi ji didn't want to live family life. It was his choice. But he didn't ask her wife. He left her. If in her place a muslim women who got triple Talaq would have suffered temporarily but vould have married someone else. She could not.
This is just an example to ipen the eys of Jahil like you.
Also the percentage for hindus were half of that of muslim but count wise Hindu women will be way more than muslim women
But you don't care about Hindu women.
Actually you don't care about anyone. You are a Nafrati, Jahil who can only live on hate.
no way for foreigners to do it. please add a paypal option too
Hi! I am an Advocate, practicing in Islamabad High Court, In short Imran did one thing and that is he convinced people including me that the problem is not politicians, nor did India or someone else, but the establishment itself.
Sir what did sg meant by 'iqbaal'? I'm asking you because you are knowledgeable in Urdu compared to most in this comment section.
he is not wrong , he is correct but the transfer of power from Army to imran khan should be peaceful
you can't do civil war for that bro
let the army institution have debate within and with pti
people should not damage their own country that will only make a case for marshal law
Why did it take more than 70 years to realise this? Your army has destroyed your country, attacked India multiple times, does cross border terrorism. Why can't educated Pakistanis understand this? Is it the brainwashing?
Hatred is corrosive to those who harbour it.Hatred to India and Hindus filled in the Pakistani hearts should vanish .
what about of gaz e hind ?
Thanks for continuously setting the standard for high quality, issue based (non click bait, non bollywood instagram) journalism.
Thank you for your generous contribution to ThePrint's journalism.
I am British Irish by birth. London raised in Londons ghettos. I find this channel utterly intelligent and well balanced. “THANK YOU” for your service to the betterment of mankind.
Betterment of mankind?
@@raghunandan8162 that's right lol
Ok pajeeth
like bennet coleman eh? saale haraami kutte ! koi english aisa nahin likta saale
Betterment of mankind. Passing in good info for those that like/need good info and perspective. So yes. Betterment of mankind is achieved by this type of reporting
Dear sekhar ji, i have to confess that although I have read this national interest on print website today morning yet I listen to this video just bcz of some magic present in ur voice and the way u narrate Sir is a gift for listeners like me who sometimes wonder how time flies by listening to your videos. Thank u
Thank you for the kind words, my friend. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
@@ThePrintIndia Thank you for acknowledging me as your friend.. it's an honour and I will it to it.
Democracy is not what good people want..its what ever people want - good or bad - and they deserve whatever they get. ❤
Democracy is effective only if people are sensible. That is why democracy never thrives in certain parts of the world. Here education is the key.
@@OrangePumpkin150 Education + religion/morals is the key.
true that except the fine print would be the current framework of 'democracy' defined by the West is nothing but full of corporate greed, cronyism and financial slavery of poor nations set by their institutions!!! Sad that no body talks about that!! Western countries first need to reform their own democratic framework and clean up years of their own mess!!!
@@marshalLannes1769 Religion??
@@OrangePumpkin150 its more about societal culture and institutions i think , education is not an issue..we had a literacy of 10% when our republic was born..still around sub saharan levels.
Just to add. Khan has not taken on the Military Establishment's vast empire. Has not mentioned Milbus once. He keeps his criticism narrowed to a few individuals so that the Establishment can have the ability to remove these individuals, bringing Khan back to correct their "mistake" and restore their image.
History's great military failures happened when leaders bit off more than they could chew on: Hitler, Napoleon both attacked all the Western European nations (France, Britain, etc.) as well as the Eastern ones (Russia) at the same time. That is a recipe for disaster.
Niazi could be doing the correct thing by attacking the problem one enemy at a time instead of uniting them by attacking all at once.
He will keep Adding names, take U turns. He is a megalomaniac and a total idiot. Pakistan truly deserves him.😂
Very well observed
I find Imran Smarter than what people say he is.
if that's what he wants then he wants to be the new dictator.
“Schadenfreude is always a tempting idea” - Shekharji 🙏
One of the best news content I have seen in a long time. The insights on liberty and democracy in this episode should be broadcasted to everyone who wants to participate in one. Thank you Shekhar Gupta and the Print.
Damn it guys, this guy is just throwing the western propaganda at you. He basically wants to kill Democracy to stop Imran from winning. The alternative is dictatorship via military like it has always been. If democracy is strong, even if Imran fails to delivery, he can be changed. But shamelessly implying democracy is bad is pure evil on his part. And you guys like it.
Always good to hear an outsider's critical yet non biased view. It expands ones own thinking.
Thank you for your support to unbiased journalism.
Dear Prabakar,
Thank you for your generous contribution to ThePrint's journalism.
Problem in pakistan is the interfere of establishment in all institutes . Army should not interfere or side with political parties also there should be accountability in the army , this means structural changes .
No one should be above the law
Pakistan is an artificial country. If army doesn’t do that Pakistan will break up. India is unionised by a 5000 year old civilisation with shared culture, religion and values. There’s nothing Pakistani about Islamism. It is an imported ideology forced upon conquered people. As soon as pak army looses control true democracy will come up and Pakistan will break up into four.
They're interfering because the civilians are a corrupt bunch of elites. In their minds they're trying to _SAVE_ Pakistan, not destroy it.
For example they realize what a terrible mistake they've made with Imran Khan Niazi, and trying to correct it now.
However they are like a man carrying a hammer who thinks every problem is a nail. In other words, they apply the same solution to every problem: force. And that's not going to work now; they cannot force their way out of Pakistan's economic failure.
BTW, I'm no supporter of Pakistan Army; they brought your country to this situation. But neither is Niazi a _masiha_ who will cure Pakistan's problems.
This reminds me to appreciate the maturity of the people of Karnataka. Elections happened in 1 day, results came in 3 days, no hint of violence.
Or anywhere in India. Elections are respected even in UP, bihar and the poorest corners of India. Ofcourse some idiots complain about EVMs but every country has got their own idiots.
@@AP-do6sv Not bengal though.
I wish Bengal was like that. Not talking about who'll win and who'll lose, but just that people can vote without getting terrorized by political goons.
@@5amyak "Not bengal though." - Communist legacy.
@@arunsar7893 There might be a deeper problem there. Historically the Bhadra Lok had lorded it over the Chotta Lok (Dalits , Nama Shudras etc) in Bengal as Zamindars while using Muslims as the muscle/enforcers. This was the case under the Bengal sultanate and the British , both of whom cared only about the Tax collection. This alliance of the Bhadra Lok with Muslim muscle power continued after independence under the Congress ( B C Roy to SS Ray), CPM ( Basu to Budhadev) and TMC. The Chotta Lok of Bengal is numerically larger but extremely weak. This is as opposed to most of North India where all caste groups have a shot at power following the Mandal/Mandir churn of the 90's.
With all the policy flaws of Nehru. we must always remember and thank him for sowing the seeds of democracy that deep. Also the early army generals who laid the foundations of a professional armed forces.
When Narendra Modi Congratulates Congress party on winning
Karnataka elections , a election in which he was so involved in shows character of our democracy
there are many constitutional provisions in India topple state governments modi did not
and it shows people aren't voting for a autocracy
Amen to that!
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accha? how much u got to write shit like this
@@ThePrintIndia thank you Sir
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As a Pakistani I admire this guys journalism
Love such people
Such people are hope of India Pakistan friendship
Why do you want friendship now leave us alone man!!
No one here wants to be friends with you two-timing terrorist bastards.
No friendship with double speaking politicians and public. If minorities are disastrously undermined and tortured , terrorised and forcefully converted then a true and the largest democracy of the world has nothing to do with such friends .
Guptaji! All your National Interest episodes are worth a separate course in a University. Amazing.
One of the best NIs I've ever come across. BTW 'IQBAL' could be translated to trust or credibility but one must be careful not to translate it to faith or popularity
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As an avid follower of Pak politics, I must say that Imran Khan has this clout - whether it is because of his gift of the gab or because he once won a world cup (a pretty ludicrous reasoning - but then it seems so important for both IK and his followers), or because he is good looking or because of his use of the religion card - whatever be the reason - he seems to be a force to reckon with. I agree with Shekarji that once elected he will be a disaster for the nation. As I see it now, the only way to stop him is to allow him to get elected - the implosion of the country will then occur, because thereafter his Government has to focus on raising the economy of the country. None of his attributes will help him there. He will fall, The country then will rise like the proverbial phoenix. Hopefully.
He has this clout because of the trust we have, and we all know he is not corrupt and our country will be in better hands. Yes there are and were governance issues. But the major success was health card, providing free health services. But no other reasons are there just than that. Plus religion card was if successful, Fazlur Rahamn then should succeed. Yes he has worked for religion but not any religion card. And we too hope that he emerges as a stronger and wiser leader. If establishment ever allows him to be back in power. Yes we are having very critical times ahead. But even now, if we don't elect a right person, then where wil be Pakistan from 10 years now??
@@whatsinthetown2825 do you think imran can bring back economic stability?........I know he is not a magician.......what iam trying to ask is, is he had competitive people within his party to accomplish this task?...........
Definitely a man of calibre of Imran Khan definitely do well than the others. He is honest and hava a great vision for the betterment of Pakistan. Army should keep away from politics. Present Army commander is Sheriff's right hand man.
@@khabibnurmagomedov8581 I am just going with this believe.. Where as right people are concerned very little people around him seem to be right. Truly speaking. But he is the only option for Pakistan so I hope he brings up right people. Plus how much the situation has deteriorated economically is beyond any magic now. It will def take atleast 10 years if he is allowed to work ..🤷♀️
Plus ...there were better economic indicators despite covid in the tenure.. So hope is the only option
Myself Amey Revan, so small but that's it what I could contribute as a 12th grade student ,but keep on this true journalism 🫡
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Indian media kind of supporting Pak Army against a civilian leader: WAOW...... you are really making history
People change...IK, wiser from experience and sound public support, may go for bold steps for friendship with neighbours and trade & economic development which, with Army in the barracks, will be good for Pakistan!
Imran Khan has become a huge phenomenon especially after 9 May. However, the nation is marred by huge financial issues apart from zillion other issues. It won't be easy for even Imran Khan to save the country in the immediate future.
Nothing can be better than Imran Khan for Pakistan
I remember the other recorded phone call of IK w the woman politician where he says that he wants to go "all the way" with her.
Wonder how sadeeq & ameen that is. Or is that the qualifying bar?
One's interest in women has nothing to do with their ability to run the country.. see bill clinton
Shekhar sahb your analysis on Pakistan is, most of the times, far better than the journalists in Pakistan.
Hats off to you Sir jee
Very well said SIR.. Pure journalism.
Seems to be one difference between the middle east and Pakistan when it comes to "secular military" - Pakistan military is probably radicalized. In fact it was Zia that started the radicalization journey of Pakistan - and the current chief has apparently memorized the Quran. So either way its a pain.
memorization is just false propaganda. his actions prove that.
Thanks Shekar sir. Keep up the good work and analysis of pak politics. When friends and colleagues discuss/ask me to explain what is happening in Pakistan. I have to share your videos.
And I will confirm that even ardent islamist or pro-Pakistani (anti India) friends will admit that your observations are neutral and not tainted by your nationality or religion.
To their chagrin, the only complaint they have against you is that you are so neutral in your observation. Everybody just wants the answer sheet and not do their own thinking.
Lots of love and I wish you good health. ❤️
May one day true peace, respect and love come between 🇵🇰 and 🇮🇳
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The question is will it be good for India or not? It does not matter that Imran is able to come back, whether the army is capable to come back or not... How does this impact India is all that matters...
Sorry to wake you up, but india is not the center of the universe. So no, if he is good or bad for india is not all what matters. If he is good, which i am damn sure he will be, or not for HIS country Pakistan is what matters most
@@elpatron762 I don't think you are paying attention. The Print is an Indian news media, This program is called "The National Interest". The Nation it refers to is India. Most foreign events are discussed by SG on how it impacts India. By the way, I think Imran coming to power will be good for India but not so much for Pak based on his track record. The financial crisis there is due to his economic mis-management (eg: cheap gasoline during his tenure lead to forex drain). The insurgency Pak faces in KP happened due to his Afghan/Taiban policy of the last 20+ years. He has burned his bridges with the US. He did nothing regarding the Baloch insurgency.
@@elpatron762 don't worry about waking me up. It doesn't matter to me or us whether he is good for HIS country... It matters to me and us that it doesn't affect us adversely....
Of course what matters most is the impact imran has on Pakistan and there are other programs that cover that, even on The Print but this program specifically looks at the impact of various events on India.
4:37 That definition and importance of democracy. Beautiful lines with well prepared speaker. Thanks SG. At least we can boasts of our freedom fighters.
Great leaders don't seek power. Great leaders simply rise to people's expectation.
~Idk who said this, I read it somewhere.
But one thing I am sure of is that Imran is not a great leader. Neither is the sharif or bhutto family. I just want people of Pakistan to see the reality - India was never your enemy.
Main problem with Islamic countries is that they are all autocratic. Turkey is a prime example on why Erdogan won more votes despite the quake. Opposition was looking Westwards. But all these countries also migrate Westwards and not to Islamic countries. This question is baffling. German journalist commented that Turks in Germany vote for Erdogan but do not want to live and work there
SG is making a grave mistake of comparing Arab army/dictator with Pakistan army and assuming Pakistan Army to be bulwark against Islamization. Zia-up-haq was original populist and several Pakistani general harbor these tendencies. When it comes to Islamization Imran Khan will be not much different then current army.
A brilliant essay on the current situation in our neighbourhood. Great analysis SG.
Thank you, Vikram. I'm glad you liked this episode. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Pakistan failed to have someone like Nehru & othrs immediately after independence, who ruled for 15+ years to show what democratic country may look like
Army murdered everyone like that.
They had a popular leader in Jinnah, before whom Gandhi and Nehru begged to not let the partition happen, but man did not flinch.
If we take a glimpse on Pakistan's history, the events that are occuring now are not much of a surprise.
Like Shekhar said, there has to be a lot of groundwork(setting up of institutions, creation of visionary leaders debating on the idea of the new India) to be done before establishing a democracy which India did.
Pakistan was created solely based on religious grounds (The promise land for Muslims). A religion of which even the creator himself-Jinnah, was not an ardent follower. The precedence of millitary interfering with the civillian government was set soon after independence. Then how can anyone expect a smooth transition of power in such a hostile political ecosystem, where prime ministers are elected, removed, assassinated or made to flee away as per millitary's convenience?
I'm from Pakistan. Again I'm mentioning it. I love this channel and "cut the clutter" .
A disaster from someone perspective might be a triumphant for other. Thankyou for your version.
Mr Shekhar seems to ignore the fact that Imran Khan has already ruled the country for 4 years and did not show any obvious dictatorial intent, so I don't think he will try anything like this if gets re-elected. Also, his party PTI has some very strong personalities and individuals who won't support him with such acts.
Also, it's not like Pakistani people have multiple options, it's really either him or those certified corrupts in PDM.
Appreciate the well balanced and nuanced viewpoints. 👏🏿
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Liberty does not descend to a people .... Superb. Shows why strong institutions and impartial media are important.
Imran Khan is the biggest Messiah from Pakistan.
What i don't understand is how come this all powerful army of theirs has suddenly turned into a shell of its past? After all they're supposed to be controlling everything
1st, for years army convinced people especially youth that these people who are now in power, are corrupt, inefficient and security risk for the country.
2. At the same time they started promoting Imran khan, and they all of a sudden they decided to retrieved their support from Imran Khan and directed their support to the people whom they publicly declared enemy of the country. 3. But this time due to many factor specially the increasing awareness because of social media, made things different. The respect the army had even during Martial laws, is gone. Even though they says that we are demonized because we are supporter of democracy.
No money😂
Country which want funds from abroad can't exibit autocracy or dictatorship or civil war. So military's hands are tied in a way although they can be far worse.
Support of the people is the answer. Their propaganda has fallen weaker now and a better political party is in the game.
Great Analysis
Meanwhile all in india are watching this show with popcorn and thumsup
Love from Karachi 🇵🇰
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I am a Pakistani and have been travelling a lot for more than 25 years. I met many Indians and we never been hostile to each other. We shred good chat and meal. Why as Country we call hostile to each other?
Because porki army attack india and funds Islamic terrorist
But I Salute the analysis of the situation.
Shekhar ji I respect you but when ever someone says weak or destabilize Pakistan is bad for india I hate that person. military and extremist religious parties in power in Pakistan is beneficial for us. Where are e can excuse and attack to get POK, and there will be little support from west for these extremist religious parties and army smash their head.
If I were to become PM of india I will fire all these submissive people who say make better relations with other Pakistan, I would like to fire them and get POK then get all these submissive people back to sweet talk the world. Without POK our connection to Central Asia, EU, Russia in incomplete. I have interest in POK only for its strategic location, same with a islands in Indian Ocean and some parts of Bangladesh, although due our civilization and soft power sindh should be in India. This submissive thinking brought india down even when we won wars
Imran Khan has taken this route ...obviously he has the support of many influential people in the army. Even pak judiciary is acting in this way due to some backing from within the army.
Trust me things are heading fast towards a COUP against the current chief !!!
He can destroy and he can create new Pakistan.
We will take the first one.
Just made a one-off payment to this channel.
Good quality journalism imo.
Greetings from Pakistan sir ❤
When Indians like Shekhar Gupta - for whom I have always had great respect - get the basics of Pakistani politics so wrong, i really start to worry as a Pakistani: the army has never been a stabilizing force; Imran Khan is not at all like Morsi and Pakistan is fundamentally different from countries in the Middle East; Nor is the PTI anything like the Muslim Brotherhood.
Hello democracy lover S, as a patriotic, i pray imran come to power soon so that he will finish Pakistan quickly.
In Pakistan army establishment enjoys almost 75% of the country's wealth. When Imrankhan exposes this corruption to the people of Pakistan army is now trying to remove him fom contesting the election.
Contrary to what you have said, the army is not providing stability but sucking out the wealth of the country.
This is a do or die battle for the people of Pakistan to free the economy from the clutches of the army establishment.
IK isn't trying to expose Establishment's corruption, he's pissed that they're not supporting him.
@@lookintoit4537
Absolutely. He is ok as long as they back him. 😂
@Look Into It No prime minister in Pakistan has survived without endorsing the plunder of the economy by the army establishment. IK is different then he fell out of their favour. This is the fact.
The corruption in the Pak military was first exposed by a lady named Ayesha Siddiqa in a book called Military Inc. in 2007. It is just that 99% of the people of Pakistan were blinded by their hatred of India to even consider anything like that.
IK stole watches from Toshakhana.
He himself is corrupt. lol
An excellent analysis.
Correction: The audio leak was between CJP's MIL and PTI lawyer's wife not Government lawyer./
Cmon. You wise guy, no leader in todays world has been so accountable as Imran. He has expressed his vision on econmy, rule of law very succinctly.
रॉ एजेंट कटोरा खान नियज़ी जिंदाबाद☝️😎🚩
Interesting nugget about North block !
amazed that Pakistani people also follow this channel. Long live internet.
Shekar Ji, The major population including Imran Khan does not muster hate towards India, a good amount of people root from India.
That an irony some time someone is righteous for democracy but on the other hand can also be disastrous for his same country !!
Hope all so called countries projects themselves as champions of democracy will now support !!
Only time can tell !!
The quote on the portals of North Block is attributed to Charles Caleb Colton. Some further attribute it also to Benjamin Franklin. I have always held it to be very prescient as well as ironic. Prescient, because I felt the British were trying to give us a message. Ironic because, within 18 years of their building this great edifice, palpably to last a thousand years, they had to leave India giving us our liberty. Yet, I have always held it to be a very important message and have alluded to it in many forums. In fact for a moment it appeared to me that you have picked my own thoughts.Thank you
Well said
Its so obvious Gupta, whenever your topic is Pakistan, even a street winder can preict your next word, phrase or thought ... that much for your intellect honesty ...
IK would be a triumph for democracy and a triumph for Pakistan
How? IK ruined your economy.
It's a hypothetical analysis his could be right, imran is not a politician, he is a leader, and leaders inspire human societies massively!
We love Imran Khan!
People of Pakistan want him back. Sadly army wont let him be back in power.
Its always been a Banana Republic of Pakistan 🤩
Democracy is great but democracy for Pakistan is a disaster. Wow that sounds like an obscene contradiction.
Imran popularity is like the popularity of any Right Wing leader or any ultra left leader in any country.
A more centralist leader doesn't command this type of euphoria bcz der supporters are mostly sensible and see everything before committing themselves to anything.
RW or Ultra Left supporters do anything as der leader asks them to do without using der own brain.
angela merkel was quite popular
@@meinmovingimage3193 Arrey yaar. Do you think her supporters would have attacked German Parliament if she had lost any election?
Obama was popular. But his supporters would not storm Capitol hill or Democrat didn't shout election was stolen when Al Gore lost Florida by 537 votes only. You need a Trump to do that.
Being popular and being a crazy RW or Ultra Left Fan is different. Trump was like that and Modi too.
Do you think a congress voter will ever say publically that I will buy petro at 200 rs per litre but support the congress government.
It doesn't happen. You need some special tallent(?) to do that.
@@BharatThatIsIndia *talent
@@madanpunekar1406 Sorry sir.
Please don't deduct marks for the spelling mistake.
@@BharatThatIsIndia you are very intelligent. this man called imran is a facist and a dictator.
Imran was against US and US done a coup. It will increase the existing terrorism in Pakistan and it will spillover to India and to China. And that's exactly what US want. It will also increase the US arms sale.
It's better for India, Pakistan and China to become Imran as Pak PM. But US will not allow for a stable South Asia.
Yes; Geopolitics is complex...
Very very good analysis
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Mr. Shekar, I totally disagree with your, for the first time on this CTC. A leader who pays lip service to ’sane’ economics to win an election but then goes about insanely in managing the economy is more terrible, than one who captures power with insane promises and is forced by the emptiness of the Kitty to do all sane things. (BJP - 2014 VS. Congress - 1991). Democracy is a great leveller and no amount of justification can be fair for postponement of elections. Who knows if Imran comes to power, will think radically and realise that friendlier relationship and trade with India is the only way to restore the sagging Pakistani economy?
Based on his term as PM he is exactly the opposite of what you say.
10.11 point was breath taking
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what an insight! i feel stupid..thank you Shekar Ji.
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Wao! SG supporting Pakistani army is a pleasant surprise
What Coupta is saying is, India is a democracy only because of its Hindu majority.
We must let Pakistan choose its own path. We must send any Pakistan sympathizers to go wallow in the mud over there and never cast an evil eye on India.
But Coupta and his ilk are preparing to ensure by 2047 that only believes with Sadik & Amin can rule Bharat. Crazy times ahead.
If the people elect Imran, then he will be the PM. I don’t think a journalist like Sekhar Gupta is in a position to advise if Imran is suitable for the post.
First time don’t agree with your analysis of Pakistan and Imran Khan.
And ImranKhan is not anti-western, he keeps giving examples of western Democracy to us in every speech. He keeps telling us to learn from India and from west. Along with that he mentions what we can learn from Prophet Muhammad. Imran Khan doesn't stand for Islamization or anti western Democracy but a Rational Voice Pakistan has never had.
He is a hypocrite U-turn master
Rational sounds good
Asal me shekhar ji ko arvind aur imran jaise neta nahi pasand
Ye indian express do do page ke article arvind ke khilaf likhte the,
Inke hisab se achanak se revolution la dena, power topple kar dena ek mature nation ki nishani nai h,
N may be is right
Hmare jaise mediocre mindset vale log shayad is bat ko na samjhe
why did he blame the USA? when the army ousted him?
Army ousted him with the help of America, this is the truth… Imran showed that paper in his all jalsas& even to army generals + Bajwa +pm, but they were bound to show …Imran khan as a lier… in sab nay wo paper dekha tha… but jaan bhoojh kay unho nay disown kya! Bcoz sab uskay khilaf hogaye! aur wo akela larta raha… iss mafia kay sath… wo inka sath kabhi bhi nahi daiga ! Ghalat ko ghalat kahey ga
@@fatimaimran7645 it is not true. the paper said nothing of the sort. but you weird people want division. i hope all of you suffer the consequences of your actions. he is a loser just like you. furthermore speak English on an English platform...
Success and sustainability of pakistan lies in one and only one thing and that is modern democracy....honest and secular state , honest and secular government and civilized , honest , small and secular ARMY, Good economy. Otherwise it is bound to FAIL.❤❤
They hate secularism in pakistan but they lecture india on secularism
Bound to fail? Its a failed state.
Please make a video on TH-cam as a forum for journalism and how does this business model work
Excellent analysis
शत शत नमन sir
Democracy is a form of government in which the people have the authority to deliberate and decide legislation, or to choose governing officials to do so. In the end let the people decide. People will sooner or later choose the best option.
For Better or Worse, democracy should prevail even if it brings to power lunatics. People should face the consequences of bad leaders
Like the way SG put across the dilemma of Pakistan. On one side Imran would win if they had elections but that would be a disaster for Pak.
People need to understand the two terms ‘Democracy’ and ‘Republic’…most people don’t even realise how significant it is to understand the 2 words… India/US are NOT just democracies they are great REPUBLICS…
Pakistan has historically had tough time trying to define a constitution…and the final version that did stick was ‘Islamic Republic where the sovereignty lies with Allah’ …
Pakistan cannot sustain as a nation state … the only inevitable end-game is the breaking of Pakistan.
Very good