Same Got it for 2 years now, 20K km and ride it every day. I love it more and more every time i ride it. If i could have only one bike i would choose the DR over everything
Keep the DR650 as long as you can, those outdated machine are quite rare and it is not hardwired with too much electronics compared to modern adv bikes nowadays. Thats why im keeping my suzuki dr and drz sm.
@@bikewolf7455 same just got one myself few months ago and ride it everyday nearly has 50k on it but out of all the bikes ive owned its by far my favourite
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE hey Brian I’m looking at a 1995 dr 650 in the uk is it a good year to buy or should I wait for something newer to come along? There’s not many about over here. :/
Safety first! Standing up on one wheel gives you a commanding view over the horizon, and allows for increased reaction time. Glad you've got your priorities in line, mate!
Awesome stuff. As much as I enjoy watching the wheelies, I love the guttural induction noise knowing that you aren't revving the beast to the moon and instead using the torque and balance point to perfection. I think a DR is the ADV bike for me
this! some much this! damn now i wish my 07 rmz250 wouldnt have clutch issues BAD, i would try to trade it for one of these 90s&forward 650 bikes :S you can build PLENTY of different styles from dr650s and the hondas and kawas etc
@@crosstrainingenduro but whe have the special sister with the same mill, the xf650 freewind. Less suspension travel and a top fairing.. maybe I'll buy one of those and pretend being on a bush pig (freewind is more like a city pig😂)
I haven't bitten the bullet yet. But, close to it. Currently riding an FJR13. But, want a smaller second bike capable of doing some gravel roads/light off roading
Bought my 1997 (violet & yellow/white) from an old dude a year ago because of your videos. The funny part is that I was taking your talk about the awesomeness of the DR 650 sort of seriously and then was in for a bit of a surprise... But I've done the full 360° and am back to being convinced: It IS awesome. Just in the way 80s action movies are awesome. Doing auscanvets mods next. I'll never sell her.
that's a great way to sum it up. if you watch our serious DR650 series we point out the many faults of the bike, as well as the good points. as one viewer said, it may not be the exact bike you want, but it always turns out to be the bike you need!
Bush pigs are sweet as. Yep, old and heavy with crappy suspension. But you get an understressed low maintenance beast that is enough for ordinary riders.Like most of us.
Love it So many under estimate these older bikes An XR400 is a classic example of what we ALL rode before the EURO 4-Strokes took hold Never broke down, flog the bags out of it, Awesome front brake, race it or ride it, it just kept on going
yeah all the supermoto guys i know called it impossible to wheelie the DR because its too heavy and im actually having trouble too because im a noob at wheeling but then my 17 years old friend got onto my bike and pulled long wheelies immediately
Good video again, had mine 17 years so I guess it's a keeper, bought another one as a spare but my mate begged me to sell it to him which I now regret selling, hard to find good ones in the UK. Great do it all bikes.
Just put a 14 tooth and the output shaft retainer seal on mine yesterday! I'm 6 ft 6 and 300. Did the install video...also had to give yall a shoutout on my first motovlog!
‘air cooled, carbureted, cable clutch’ and I’m just thinking I need this in my life! Barry I’d say you are responsible for more sales in recent time than the Aust. Suzuki dealer network combined - I hope they send you a ham for Christmas every year! My only complaint is all the second hand dr650 want new price - $100 per year of age... so I’m buying new this week :-)
In the end @@jeffloucks2120 I went the opposite to what I said above when I found a clean 2007 for $3k so I grabbed it. Suits me for what I want but a bit rough around the edges.
@@dimsim257 I'd grab something like that if they weren't asking 4k for it. OTD on the road new 2020 can be had for $6350. I see mostly 2008-2019 asking $4k to as much as $6400 with varying mileage. Might just have to sit back and be ready to strike at the right moment. Sometimes involves driving long distances which can lead you to find a bike you don't want to purchase after seeing it. Hope you're enjoying yours.
It HASN'T* changed since 1996. literally nothing significant. They went to a steel base gasket and added an output shaft real retainer... oh and blue thread locker on the neutral safety switch.
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE I’ve heard rumors that the yellow ones are the fastest since that’s Suzuki’s race colors. The ones I’ve ridden were either black or gray. They felt about equal to me. The early purple frames give off a certain je ne sais quoi.
YEAH, i do enjoy those nice wheelies. nice to hear ya talk to. almost want a DR650 now but i have a xr600r, its fun, but not so good for dualsport i feel.
i don't know why honda stopped selling the australian XR650L in 2012, i suspect i'd have even more fun with that than the DR650 which is still a big seller here. never got to ride the smaller 600 unfortunately...
I was riding on Teewah beach the other day and little kid in a fourby yells out the window "Do a wheelie!". I couldn't. I was so ashamed. Never again. Never again.
Thanks for all your videos. You certainly sealed my resolve to buy a DR and make it into a ADV bike vice any others. I followed your advice re: making the BST40 better but found the TM40 a far better mod. I'd encourage any DR riders to make the shift to a Mikuni TM40/42 to see significant benefit. It was the best mod I did, rather than playing with the stock carb. Don't work for or spruik for Mikuni; just my experience. Cheers mate, really enjoyed the effort you placed into your youtube channel.
Interesting! So you didn't get a good result with the BST mods? I've just done them to the new DR650 and it's like a different bike. And years back I did own a DR with the pumper carb and it seemed about the same as a modded BST... although I'd really need to ride them side by side for a good comparison.
All I know is it takes a lot of body English to power wheelie in first gear with the jetted/ piped bst at 5000 feet elevation. I'm thinking about buying a pumper.
Your videos are awesome. I bought my Husaberg FE570 after watching all of your unreal Berg vids. I really enjoy the DR vids you have done, excellent info. I might have to get a bush pig one day if I sell the big Berg...
@@crosstrainingadventure yeah I must admit that it's an awesome bike. I can't ride it to its potential but I love every minute when I get to take it for a run. I would love to be able to wheelie it at 10% of your ability, you could wheelie in to tomorrow...👍
Thats odd, cos I never felt comfortable pulling wheelies on my old DR, it always felt like it wanted to flip to close to the balance point, didn't feel like it had much margin for error .. probably just lost my nerve for pulling long wheelies since the last big one put me in hospital.
Best benefit of the mighty DR is that you can cycle through seventeen rear tires for every one front since the front wheel is on the ground only occasionally to comply with the eyes of the law. (Wheelies are illegal in the nanny-country of Canada)
even on stock tyres you seem to pop the front up with ease on gravel and dry hard pack.....how????? I just spin the rear and rooster gravel everywhere. also what gearing do you have for most your riding?
Could you list the mods to the 650 giving it so much front wheel lifting power. Mine is stock and does not seem to have that much torque/lifting ability.
It's not really about power though. I find a completely stock DR650 still wheelies easily. But we have a whole DR650 series with vids specifically about derestricting the engine.... up to 10% power increase.
My 2015 dr650 will not wheelie on dirt roads in 2nd gear or higher, I've even rode wheelies starting on pavement and as soon as the rd changes to dirt the back tire just spins, if I try to clutch up in 2nd on dirt it always just spins, I've had my cousin also try my bike out and he's just as good riding them on dirt with his xr650l and he cannot get the bike to pick up. It does wheelie decently easy in 2nd on pavement if your moving about 15 mph but anything faster and it has a super difficult time picking up. I know his gears are shorter on his xr so I think that's what I'm gonna do next is change out the front sprocket to a 14t and also maybe put the 44t on the rear to be able to pull 3rd gear wheelies at 30+mph
Keep this DR stuff coming please! I'm looking to get a bike that's more highway friendly (70+mph) as my DRZ just doesn't like it and I have pretty much minimum 1 hour ride to any good trails that I haven't ridden 1000 times.
The DRZ400E can be turned into a bike capable of good Highway speeds, but it takes more work than most are willing to do. I bored/stroked mine to 472, installed a wide ratio box to effectively get a 6th gear while keeping 1st stock for trail, changed to 14/42, fitted a good muffler, properly tuned the carburettor, and its now 51 rwhp and sits 120 kmh at 5230 rpm. Not expensive, and the bike cost only A$1500, but it took me 3 months to do...it was my summer project. I rode my 1190r over summer while I did it. It’s now a great little adv bike for the Victoria high country and out of the way camping.
@@ronanrogers4127 There are no DRZ's in my area that cheap. I am always on the lookout. Hard pressed to find a bone stock 400s for 3800. Then add all that stuff.... I'd rather buy a stock bike with 50 rw hp and gears. But, thats the great thing about bikes, everyone gets to do what they want.
Awesome skills, dry humor great Tobias! my favorite channel. Did you do an mods on the clutch, especially on the clutch lever? I do have a hard time with using the clutch on the point... Cheers from Hamurg, Germany
Thanks Johannes! No mods to the clutch. I do so much clutch slipping on the dirt bikes I find the DR650 is fine when I'm using the clutch very little in comparison.
@@crosstrainingadventure All right, this proofs your skills again! So i need to keep practicing on my DR350. Wenn I have the Chance of visiting Australia, I will stop by.
Standing for sure, Sean. Moving your body around is critical for balance. But just for the fun of it I try static balancing while sitting because it's a lot harder. We figure anything that refines your sense of balance will help with riding overall.
so why cant i wheelie it then? i mean sitting wheelies are kinda okay and enough to get on the sidewalk but standing wheelies? my DR is more than uncorked and has short gearing so its already a powerhouse and im kinda afraid to try when standig since i had the bike throwing me off like a horse twice when sitting to far in the front. my friend who can even wheelie is 125cc 4 stroke into submission said my DR is way more easy to wheelie when standing and he even pulled her up at 80kph with ease. are there any tips for building up confidence? also i keep missing the foot brake when wearing enduro boots
we've got some comprehensive wheelie training vids on our enduro channel: cross training enduro. i reckon covering the rear brake is the critical skill with a big heavy bike like this.
Have you ever had or heard of problems with the neutral sending unit bolts. I'm interested in the bike but thats something I'm trying to find out about. Good riding as well. Thanks
I've had a few DR650s now and I usually keep the stock for anywhere up to six months before I derestrict the engine and do some basic suspension mods. I find it wheelies easily in third gear completely stock... it's just getting the technique right.
Let's say you were a weekend warrior with plus minus 10 years experience on 90 percent offroad. Would you consider a newer kdx 200 or a dr400? I have my reservations but 4t seems the way to go in some senses despite my love for 2t engines. I don't think my offroad finesse is good enough for the 600.
When I started filming the bush pig I had no idea it might influence sales lol. But I've had a few hundred viewers say the vids swayed them toward buying a DR. Thankfully there was only one guy who said it didn't grow on him and he sold it a few months later.
@@crosstrainingadventure i honestly say that its thanks to you that im gonna buy a new DR650 pretty soon, just checking dealers now and kind of hoping this snow goes away so i dont have it here sitting in the garage lol
I hope you like it. And a good time to grab one if buying brand new, there's every chance they'll be discontinued any year now due to increasing govt demands for lower emissions and ABS etc. But parts will continue for decades with so many on the road!
we may also be purchasing a 2004 dr650 with over 15K miles and am considering a ProCycle 790 kit in that ?? - curious what your opinion might be on the 790 big bore -
I'd love to ride one, Dave. But have yet to encounter one. Nothing but good reports from what I hear. If had any engine damage to the piston or barrel I'd do it in a flash.
trying to figure what i am doing wrong - my stock 2019 DR650 (only 500 miles on odometer) will not lift the front wheel - yet my old 1978 XT500 pulled wheelie with ease in 2nd gear never using the clutch ? Do you pull on the handlebar and lean back to get it up ? Thanks again for your thoughts!
We've got a basic vid on this channel but our indepth wheelie training vids are all over on our enduro channel. Certainly some bikes are easier than others. I find the DR650 perfect, whereas a more powerful KTM 690 I owned was quite a bit harder...
we messaged them quite a few times but they never even responded... just figured the distributor and local dealer weren't interested in actually promoting their own bikes. 😢
I've ridden bikes a little bit before, the biggest was a 450 4 stroke, for a very short time. I bought a dr650se as my first bike and it's by far the fastest thing I've ever driven, honestly scared me a few times
love to hear your advise on DR 650 vs 400 sm. My riding would be: easy to intermediate trails with my wife and Daughter - wheelies at any stop sign or any time!! - some highway riding of about 150 miles on curved mountain roads - no 2 up riding - possible a longer 2-3 day overnighter with highway and dirt roads. I really lean towards the 400 for weight and playfulness but watching this puts a new perspective on it... great riding by the way... any advise is appreciated. tks.
Wev'e got a very old vid on this channel somewhere about DR650 wheelie technique. And a pile of them on the enduro channel. Done right, you don't need much throttle at all.
Yes the old KLR just seems to be over that critical power/weight ratio. I've only ridden a KLR once and could only pop the wheelie up in first gear....
If you want. But our philosophy has always been it's best to learn without the clutch first as it forces you to get the technique right. A completely stock DR lifts easily in third gear when the technique all comes together. th-cam.com/video/BQeMmKsyjgI/w-d-xo.html
Sorry to comment on an old video but if the host is available I would love to chat, is their an email I can contact CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE on? Best, Max
Contact details are on our website Max, but making vids for two channels takes up so much time (70+ hours a week) I only give brief answers, if any. And often it's questions that I've already done a video about.
Oh boy, they did alot. Drilled out the airbox, improved filtering, rejetted, modified the needle, ground down the header pipe weld, fabricated their own mid pipe and added an aftermarket GSXR tailpipe. Dont recall if they changed the gearing or chain, but alot of people do. Lots of modification and tuning on the suspension. Lost a bunch of non essentials, added some armour, and of course, changed the tires.
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE aside from suspecting I would die every time I took it out for a ride, it also felt like it needed to be accelerating or breaking all of the times. There was no riding along at a continuous speed. It used to cut out all the time and I felt like it was reving way too high for the speeds I was doing unless I changed gears, which would have been every ten seconds due to the sensitivity of the throttle. Not much fun to ride at all.
If I recognize your voice - I have been watching your MIGHTY SUZUKI DR 650 video's for years - under a different youtube handle ???? - In my humble opinion - it IS THE BEST TRUE 50/50 DUAL SPORT MOTORCYCLE ON THE PLANET "PERIOD"....Leave it stock and enjoy the hell out of it - or mod the shit out of it - and create a fire breathing beast !!!!!!!!
I can buy one of these for cheap sub €1000, but it has 80000km on it, (50000mls) should I? They are never for sale in my countey but I can get parts, and I can wrench...
we've covered the known issues on our adventure channel, JH. if it's a 1996 or later you could easily part it out and at least get your money back if the engine completely detonated for some reason.
i should point out too, there was some guy here in australia debating whether to do his bottom end or not at 500,000 km. 👀 from memory he had replaced his rings/piston twice by then but otherwise everything was still running well. not a bad run!
@@crosstrainingadventure wow thats amazing for a big single! We have the suzuki xf650 freewind over here aswell. Same engine as the dr but in a bmw f650-like package:) the dr650se was sold to someone else, but I keep searching for one, I love the old school bomb proof bikes, I own a tt600re and a honda Hawk gt
I watched your videos and just bought a DR650 expecting it to be somewhat comparable to my old XL500S in terms of getting the wheel up. But there's no way in hell it can get the front off the ground in 3rd straight from the factory with the stock gearing. Even in 2nd it takes a fair whack of throttle input and the clutch to get it up, and mine is fully derestricted with all the usual mods and running perfectly. Compared to my XL500S, the DR650 is definitely no wheelie beast.
If you get the technique right it seems to come up very easily, Drew. But then a lot of bikes do in that case. We've covered wheelie technique in detail over on our adventure channel if you are interested... you certainly shouldn't need any clutch unless you are trying in fourth gear (in my experience).
@@crosstrainingadventure cheers. I've watched all your vids and love your stuff. I'm only a small fella so don't have a lot of weight behind me but I'll keep at it. I'm doing sit down wheelies so maybe that has something to do with it, although I am still learning.
I like the video I have a 2018 dr650 I put a supertrapp pipe on it and a pro cycle carb kit 9 discs in the super trap and the thing Road like it was a 250 motorcycle took it down to four discs in the supertrapp and now I think maybe it has half a horsepower more I am really disappointed okay what's your take on this and what are the videos you have on making this bike a lot better because right now I liked it better stock
This channel is the reason I bought my DR 6 years ago. And I will never sell it. I don't care how outdated it becomes.
Same
Got it for 2 years now, 20K km and ride it every day. I love it more and more every time i ride it. If i could have only one bike i would choose the DR over everything
Is it heavy tho lads as my crf250r is lol so I can imagine the weight of that 6fiddy
Keep the DR650 as long as you can, those outdated machine are quite rare and it is not hardwired with too much electronics compared to modern adv bikes nowadays. Thats why im keeping my suzuki dr and drz sm.
@@bikewolf7455 same just got one myself few months ago and ride it everyday nearly has 50k on it but out of all the bikes ive owned its by far my favourite
Lee H do you still have your Dr
You're the quintessential DR ambassador. Been loving mine for 6 years now thanks to you.
Great to hear Randall! I'm really missing the bush pig and will soon be able to afford one hopefully.
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE hey Brian I’m looking at a 1995 dr 650 in the uk is it a good year to buy or should I wait for something newer to come along? There’s not many about over here. :/
Yeah man suzuki should put you on their pay roll lol I just bought mine lol
i have a 06 dr with 44000 miles. only repair has been a cam chain tensioner gasket that had a small leak. best bike for the money anywhere
Safety first! Standing up on one wheel gives you a commanding view over the horizon, and allows for increased reaction time. Glad you've got your priorities in line, mate!
deep down i knew there was a reason wheelies were safer than two wheels on the ground...
Awesome stuff. As much as I enjoy watching the wheelies, I love the guttural induction noise knowing that you aren't revving the beast to the moon and instead using the torque and balance point to perfection. I think a DR is the ADV bike for me
this! some much this! damn now i wish my 07 rmz250 wouldnt have clutch issues BAD, i would try to trade it for one of these 90s&forward 650 bikes :S you can build PLENTY of different styles from dr650s and the hondas and kawas etc
Thumbs up if you purchased a DR650 like I did, because of Cross Training Enduro DR 650 vids.
Haha Im trying to, but they are unicorns here in Holland
@@J2I3H Wat een jammer 😢
@@crosstrainingenduro but whe have the special sister with the same mill, the xf650 freewind. Less suspension travel and a top fairing.. maybe I'll buy one of those and pretend being on a bush pig (freewind is more like a city pig😂)
I haven't bitten the bullet yet. But, close to it. Currently riding an FJR13. But, want a smaller second bike capable of doing some gravel roads/light off roading
You must have save a fortune on front tyres.
Bought my 1997 (violet & yellow/white) from an old dude a year ago because of your videos. The funny part is that I was taking your talk about the awesomeness of the DR 650 sort of seriously and then was in for a bit of a surprise... But I've done the full 360° and am back to being convinced: It IS awesome. Just in the way 80s action movies are awesome.
Doing auscanvets mods next. I'll never sell her.
that's a great way to sum it up. if you watch our serious DR650 series we point out the many faults of the bike, as well as the good points. as one viewer said, it may not be the exact bike you want, but it always turns out to be the bike you need!
Great video thank you. All your videos have helped me build a great DR, including suspension upgrades from FFRC. Keep up the great work!
Great to hear Marcel!
I swear your videos have increased the prices of used dr650's in my area
Bush pigs are sweet as.
Yep, old and heavy with crappy suspension. But you get an understressed low maintenance beast that is enough for ordinary riders.Like most of us.
amen
Best DR video I've seen...EVER
Love the video, been tossing up between a XT600 and a DR650, this video could be the deciding factor!
i've only ridden one XT before tom, and i think they are very similar bikes. the amount of bling and info about mods is huge for the DR650 though.
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE good to know! Does that include stickers so I can pretend it’s a Dakar model haha
Never gets old
You are so good at wheelies 😱
Love it
So many under estimate these older bikes
An XR400 is a classic example of what we ALL rode before the EURO 4-Strokes took hold
Never broke down, flog the bags out of it, Awesome front brake, race it or ride it, it just kept on going
yeah all the supermoto guys i know called it impossible to wheelie the DR because its too heavy and im actually having trouble too because im a noob at wheeling but then my 17 years old friend got onto my bike and pulled long wheelies immediately
Still riding a xr400 after my last KTM had a million electric issues.
The xr400 are also bulletproof, just lacking the dr grunt and open rd ability.
it's a very old vid but here we are mucking around on the XR400 workhorse about 15 years ago 😎 th-cam.com/video/wUqHIiiLa5U/w-d-xo.html
@@crosstrainingadventure that video was surely filmed in the 80s, massive vibes going on 🤣
Always a treat, Barry! Hope your healing well! Cheers!
Good video again, had mine 17 years so I guess it's a keeper, bought another one as a spare but my mate begged me to sell it to him which I now regret selling, hard to find good ones in the UK. Great do it all bikes.
Just put a 14 tooth and the output shaft retainer seal on mine yesterday! I'm 6 ft 6 and 300.
Did the install video...also had to give yall a shoutout on my first motovlog!
I have a '17 and put on a 14 also. All the difference in world!
‘air cooled, carbureted, cable clutch’ and I’m just thinking I need this in my life! Barry I’d say you are responsible for more sales in recent time than the Aust. Suzuki dealer network combined - I hope they send you a ham for Christmas every year! My only complaint is all the second hand dr650 want new price - $100 per year of age... so I’m buying new this week :-)
resale value is crazy, hey john? i want to get another one when my financial situation improves but there won't be any bargains out there lol.
You're telling me. I'm watching but the prices just don't quite negate buying new.
In the end @@jeffloucks2120 I went the opposite to what I said above when I found a clean 2007 for $3k so I grabbed it. Suits me for what I want but a bit rough around the edges.
@@dimsim257 I'd grab something like that if they weren't asking 4k for it. OTD on the road new 2020 can be had for $6350. I see mostly 2008-2019 asking $4k to as much as $6400 with varying mileage.
Might just have to sit back and be ready to strike at the right moment. Sometimes involves driving long distances which can lead you to find a bike you don't want to purchase after seeing it. Hope you're enjoying yours.
Love live the DR!
I love my DR650!!!
It HASN'T* changed since 1996. literally nothing significant. They went to a steel base gasket and added an output shaft real retainer... oh and blue thread locker on the neutral safety switch.
Don’t forget when they ditched the DR350 headlight shroud and started using the one off the DRZ400 back in 2002 or so.
faster graphics have been more aerodynamic... and different colour schemes have improved the handling
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE I’ve heard rumors that the yellow ones are the fastest since that’s Suzuki’s race colors. The ones I’ve ridden were either black or gray. They felt about equal to me. The early purple frames give off a certain je ne sais quoi.
good to hear about the NSU just got the 2020 model in April
@@andyblack5687 Try a blue one. You'll never go back.
YEAH, i do enjoy those nice wheelies. nice to hear ya talk to. almost want a DR650 now but i have a xr600r, its fun, but not so good for dualsport i feel.
i don't know why honda stopped selling the australian XR650L in 2012, i suspect i'd have even more fun with that than the DR650 which is still a big seller here. never got to ride the smaller 600 unfortunately...
I was riding on Teewah beach the other day and little kid in a fourby yells out the window "Do a wheelie!". I couldn't. I was so ashamed. Never again. Never again.
Oh the shame... I've had that happen lol. I was just caught in the wrong gear, or it wasn't a safe spot. I just hope I don't shatter some kid's dream!
Thanks for all your videos. You certainly sealed my resolve to buy a DR and make it into a ADV bike vice any others. I followed your advice re: making the BST40 better but found the TM40 a far better mod. I'd encourage any DR riders to make the shift to a Mikuni TM40/42 to see significant benefit. It was the best mod I did, rather than playing with the stock carb. Don't work for or spruik for Mikuni; just my experience. Cheers mate, really enjoyed the effort you placed into your youtube channel.
Interesting! So you didn't get a good result with the BST mods? I've just done them to the new DR650 and it's like a different bike. And years back I did own a DR with the pumper carb and it seemed about the same as a modded BST... although I'd really need to ride them side by side for a good comparison.
All I know is it takes a lot of body English to power wheelie in first gear with the jetted/ piped bst at 5000 feet elevation. I'm thinking about buying a pumper.
I wonder if SUZUKI will bring out a 25th anniversary special next year , they could do a retro colour of the 1996 .
Is that the purple and yellow?? I would buy an aftermarket set of those plastics if i could.
Your videos are awesome. I bought my Husaberg FE570 after watching all of your unreal Berg vids. I really enjoy the DR vids you have done, excellent info. I might have to get a bush pig one day if I sell the big Berg...
i miss the berg so much joel! if i had plenty of money i would have kept it as a lifetime bike.
@@crosstrainingadventure yeah I must admit that it's an awesome bike. I can't ride it to its potential but I love every minute when I get to take it for a run. I would love to be able to wheelie it at 10% of your ability, you could wheelie in to tomorrow...👍
You must save a ton of money since you only ever have to replace the rear tire! Haha, awesome videos! Love my DR !
Thats odd, cos I never felt comfortable pulling wheelies on my old DR, it always felt like it wanted to flip to close to the balance point, didn't feel like it had much margin for error .. probably just lost my nerve for pulling long wheelies since the last big one put me in hospital.
Best benefit of the mighty DR is that you can cycle through seventeen rear tires for every one front since the front wheel is on the ground only occasionally to comply with the eyes of the law. (Wheelies are illegal in the nanny-country of Canada)
O Canada, our non-wheelie land...
I can ride a unicycle down a mountain, but I can't do a wheelie. Bugger.
That’s more impressive fr
Dude. Go practice. There are some good videos on it
even on stock tyres you seem to pop the front up with ease on gravel and dry hard pack.....how????? I just spin the rear and rooster gravel everywhere. also what gearing do you have for most your riding?
here's a basic guide, but we go into more detail over on the enduro channel th-cam.com/video/BQeMmKsyjgI/w-d-xo.html
Could you list the mods to the 650 giving it so much front wheel lifting power. Mine is stock and does not seem to have that much torque/lifting ability.
It's not really about power though. I find a completely stock DR650 still wheelies easily. But we have a whole DR650 series with vids specifically about derestricting the engine.... up to 10% power increase.
My 2015 dr650 will not wheelie on dirt roads in 2nd gear or higher, I've even rode wheelies starting on pavement and as soon as the rd changes to dirt the back tire just spins, if I try to clutch up in 2nd on dirt it always just spins, I've had my cousin also try my bike out and he's just as good riding them on dirt with his xr650l and he cannot get the bike to pick up. It does wheelie decently easy in 2nd on pavement if your moving about 15 mph but anything faster and it has a super difficult time picking up. I know his gears are shorter on his xr so I think that's what I'm gonna do next is change out the front sprocket to a 14t and also maybe put the 44t on the rear to be able to pull 3rd gear wheelies at 30+mph
This guy very easily increased DR650 sales
Exiting to know it is possible to have a blast on a bike without breaking the bank👍🏼
Keep this DR stuff coming please! I'm looking to get a bike that's more highway friendly (70+mph) as my DRZ just doesn't like it and I have pretty much minimum 1 hour ride to any good trails that I haven't ridden 1000 times.
These are a dime a dozen around here. I may have to pick one up. I used to have a DRZ400, but found it was lacking on highway trips.
The DRZ400E can be turned into a bike capable of good Highway speeds, but it takes more work than most are willing to do. I bored/stroked mine to 472, installed a wide ratio box to effectively get a 6th gear while keeping 1st stock for trail, changed to 14/42, fitted a good muffler, properly tuned the carburettor, and its now 51 rwhp and sits 120 kmh at 5230 rpm. Not expensive, and the bike cost only A$1500, but it took me 3 months to do...it was my summer project. I rode my 1190r over summer while I did it. It’s now a great little adv bike for the Victoria high country and out of the way camping.
@@ronanrogers4127 There are no DRZ's in my area that cheap. I am always on the lookout. Hard pressed to find a bone stock 400s for 3800. Then add all that stuff.... I'd rather buy a stock bike with 50 rw hp and gears.
But, thats the great thing about bikes, everyone gets to do what they want.
Awesome skills, dry humor great Tobias! my favorite channel.
Did you do an mods on the clutch, especially on the clutch lever? I do have a hard time with using the clutch on the point...
Cheers from Hamurg, Germany
Thanks Johannes! No mods to the clutch. I do so much clutch slipping on the dirt bikes I find the DR650 is fine when I'm using the clutch very little in comparison.
@@crosstrainingadventure All right, this proofs your skills again! So i need to keep practicing on my DR350.
Wenn I have the Chance of visiting Australia, I will stop by.
Very cool, but I’d like to request you doing a wheelie with your hi viz buddy doing wheelie at same time on the 650’s
DR is the doctor of all dualsports
definitely my favourite, mehmet. i'm actually saving up for another one now.
Looks like you find it easier to stand while at balance point? was it always that way or did you start out sitting while at balance point?
Standing for sure, Sean. Moving your body around is critical for balance. But just for the fun of it I try static balancing while sitting because it's a lot harder. We figure anything that refines your sense of balance will help with riding overall.
so why cant i wheelie it then? i mean sitting wheelies are kinda okay and enough to get on the sidewalk but standing wheelies? my DR is more than uncorked and has short gearing so its already a powerhouse and im kinda afraid to try when standig since i had the bike throwing me off like a horse twice when sitting to far in the front. my friend who can even wheelie is 125cc 4 stroke into submission said my DR is way more easy to wheelie when standing and he even pulled her up at 80kph with ease.
are there any tips for building up confidence? also i keep missing the foot brake when wearing enduro boots
we've got some comprehensive wheelie training vids on our enduro channel: cross training enduro. i reckon covering the rear brake is the critical skill with a big heavy bike like this.
also you might just needto find the better /best tooth ratio for you.
Great vid!
Thanks Duzy!
I might be buying one next weekend. How is the stock power?
I have a 97 mate what size sprockets do you recommend to pull the front up ,my old girl feels like shes gunna have a heat attack
Have you ever had or heard of problems with the neutral sending unit bolts.
I'm interested in the bike but thats something I'm trying to find out about.
Good riding as well.
Thanks
covered this in depth in our 10 part series on mods and known issues with the DR, jamie 😁
@@crosstrainingadventure ok.
Will check out.
Thanks for responding
Hi Jamie , SUZUKI fixed the NSU problem when they released the 2017 model as i did ask about when i bought mine in 2018.
Bought dr650 '91 as a first bike and i love it, I can do wheelie on grass or asphalt but any advices for gravel and sand?
Love this! Can this be done with the DR’s stock rear sussy?
Sure
Should a 6’4 230lb be standing for the wheelie? I’ve been sitting, but can’t hold it long
yous should get a crf230f and do a review on it
we've got a vid coming up on our enduro channel about doing a race lap on it 😁
@@crosstrainingadventure oh nice im a subscriber when does it come out
Is your wheelie DR650 stock everything including the sprockets ? just purchased a 2019 4 days ago as the earlier 2018 fell through.
I've had a few DR650s now and I usually keep the stock for anywhere up to six months before I derestrict the engine and do some basic suspension mods. I find it wheelies easily in third gear completely stock... it's just getting the technique right.
@@crosstrainingadventure Sounds great and Thanks for the so soon response :-) Happy Memorial Day - so thankful for our Veterans
we are purchasing a 2018 DR650 - when you do these long wheelies do you ever use the clutch or rear brake ? Great video !!
I always dab the rear brake before starting, Dave... just to make sure it's covered. But I never use the clutch to get the front up.
@@crosstrainingadventure Thanks !!
@@crosstrainingadventure Love this video - too much fun and adventure - but we can never have to much :-)
Let's say you were a weekend warrior with plus minus 10 years experience on 90 percent offroad. Would you consider a newer kdx 200 or a dr400? I have my reservations but 4t seems the way to go in some senses despite my love for 2t engines. I don't think my offroad finesse is good enough for the 600.
i find there are so many variables when it comes to choosing a bike i can't really comment. but the DR650 is probably too heavy for 90% offroad use.
Very impressed!
This is awesome! i feel like Suzuki should pay you for every DR650 sold thanks to you
When I started filming the bush pig I had no idea it might influence sales lol. But I've had a few hundred viewers say the vids swayed them toward buying a DR. Thankfully there was only one guy who said it didn't grow on him and he sold it a few months later.
@@crosstrainingadventure i honestly say that its thanks to you that im gonna buy a new DR650 pretty soon, just checking dealers now and kind of hoping this snow goes away so i dont have it here sitting in the garage lol
I hope you like it. And a good time to grab one if buying brand new, there's every chance they'll be discontinued any year now due to increasing govt demands for lower emissions and ABS etc. But parts will continue for decades with so many on the road!
@@crosstrainingadventure yes brand new 👍🏻💪🏻. Thank you for all the help and actually replying to your fans man. Cheers
we may also be purchasing a 2004 dr650 with over 15K miles and am considering a ProCycle 790 kit in that ?? - curious what your opinion might be on the 790 big bore -
I'd love to ride one, Dave. But have yet to encounter one. Nothing but good reports from what I hear. If had any engine damage to the piston or barrel I'd do it in a flash.
@@crosstrainingadventure - You reflect my consensus also - Happy Wheelieing and riding !!
Likewise!
Who knew Doug Domokos moved to Australia and started doing adventure videos under a pseudonym
shhhh, don't want to get deported lol
trying to figure what i am doing wrong - my stock 2019 DR650 (only 500 miles on odometer) will not lift the front wheel - yet my old 1978 XT500 pulled wheelie with ease in 2nd gear never using the clutch ?
Do you pull on the handlebar and lean back to get it up ? Thanks again for your thoughts!
We've got a basic vid on this channel but our indepth wheelie training vids are all over on our enduro channel. Certainly some bikes are easier than others. I find the DR650 perfect, whereas a more powerful KTM 690 I owned was quite a bit harder...
Awesome video's! Can you please do a review/info video on an AJP pr7??? I'd love to get your opinion on them!
we messaged them quite a few times but they never even responded... just figured the distributor and local dealer weren't interested in actually promoting their own bikes. 😢
Love your vids!!!
I just fot a stock 21 model I can't get front wheel off ground at all any advice and I used to wheelie all time on other bikes
We've got a whole playlist of wheelie training vids on our enduro channel. There was a link to all of them at the end of this vid.
Great skills.
Yes fantastic! 😁
This is exactly how I feel about my XR650L.
would love to ride one but they stopped selling them here years ago 😒
They still make the l but not the r
Xr650r would shit all over it
damn, you made me want one :) wonder if can you still buy it new.
yep
THE MIGHTY SUZUKI DR 650 IS THE BEST DUAL SPORT ON THE PLANET !!!!!
$6,800.00 American, right off the showroom floor.
seriously though, in the states you guys can still pick up the honda XR650L for about the same money and it is a better bike.
Right, I'll hold Cross Training Adventure personally responsible for my up-coming damage as I flip my DR 😉👍
Same
might i suggest this video in that case lol th-cam.com/video/IFCwwugCwaA/w-d-xo.html
intelligent music choice for this generation bike :)
Yessssss
This a Wheely great vid!
I've ridden bikes a little bit before, the biggest was a 450 4 stroke, for a very short time. I bought a dr650se as my first bike and it's by far the fastest thing I've ever driven, honestly scared me a few times
i had a KTM 690 for a few months which has close to double the power which seemed absurd to me... the DR has plenty of grunt for most situations.
You need to ride a Yamaha VMAX and open it up
Question, did you change the sprocket sizes or kept them stock? Thanks
no but i know many guys drop a tooth on the front sprocket
Love the old bushpig
great bikes, hey steve.... this was our latest video in praise of the beast... th-cam.com/video/kC1CJpY4kms/w-d-xo.html
love to hear your advise on DR 650 vs 400 sm. My riding would be: easy to intermediate trails with my wife and Daughter - wheelies at any stop sign or any time!! - some highway riding of about 150 miles on curved mountain roads - no 2 up riding - possible a longer 2-3 day overnighter with highway and dirt roads. I really lean towards the 400 for weight and playfulness but watching this puts a new perspective on it... great riding by the way...
any advise is appreciated.
tks.
Sorry Eric, we never do personal bike recommendations. We do have a DR650 DRZ400 comparison vid though.
You're a Master.
Nice!
nice! THAT is the LIFE!
My '18 top end started squealing, don't kno wuts wrong, need info b4 i take to shop, still runs,starts good,but after it warms up the squealing starts
Sounds serious. Never heard of anything like this before.
Landcruiser of motorbikes.
Man, mine is bone stock and I can only get it up in first gear.
If I try in second, I literally NEED to be going uphill. Time to train even more.
Technique is probably the main thing, Ryan. It usually pops up pretty easily in third when stock but the extra power for derestriction helps.
@@crosstrainingadventure Okay! I find when I lift it in second I have to give a LOT of throttle and I end up going way to fast.
Wev'e got a very old vid on this channel somewhere about DR650 wheelie technique. And a pile of them on the enduro channel. Done right, you don't need much throttle at all.
Im trading my KLR650 for the DR. The KLR can only pull up the wheel in first!
Yes the old KLR just seems to be over that critical power/weight ratio. I've only ridden a KLR once and could only pop the wheelie up in first gear....
I can’t get mine to wheelie with 14-44 pop clutch or not ?
If you want. But our philosophy has always been it's best to learn without the clutch first as it forces you to get the technique right. A completely stock DR lifts easily in third gear when the technique all comes together. th-cam.com/video/BQeMmKsyjgI/w-d-xo.html
the. BEST. Thanks!!!
Glad you like it!
Sorry to comment on an old video but if the host is available I would love to chat, is their an email I can contact CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE on? Best, Max
Contact details are on our website Max, but making vids for two channels takes up so much time (70+ hours a week) I only give brief answers, if any. And often it's questions that I've already done a video about.
@@crosstrainingadventure Great, cheers
One has just sold in the UK for £6,000 with 3000miles on the clock.....
What mods did you do? ( Intake /exhaust / drivetrains )
Oh boy, they did alot.
Drilled out the airbox, improved filtering, rejetted, modified the needle, ground down the header pipe weld, fabricated their own mid pipe and added an aftermarket GSXR tailpipe. Dont recall if they changed the gearing or chain, but alot of people do. Lots of modification and tuning on the suspension. Lost a bunch of non essentials, added some armour, and of course, changed the tires.
They've got a whole playlist of the upgrades they did on their channel, I just finished it today.
yep, all mods detailed in a 10 part video series on this channel
I had a KTM 690 and sold it after 4 months. Most bikes I’ve had I own for years.
not happy with it? i had my 690 for about the same time, just never gelled with it. 😢 th-cam.com/video/z_MdmqNQslw/w-d-xo.html
CROSS TRAINING ADVENTURE aside from suspecting I would die every time I took it out for a ride, it also felt like it needed to be accelerating or breaking all of the times. There was no riding along at a continuous speed. It used to cut out all the time and I felt like it was reving way too high for the speeds I was doing unless I changed gears, which would have been every ten seconds due to the sensitivity of the throttle. Not much fun to ride at all.
Hope you're doing well.
Most impressive thing is wheelie with MX boots how the heck you feel your brakes??? I just can't with big boots!!!!
It's definitely easier with top quality boots with an ankle pivot point, Pierre. But yeah, it takes some getting used to.
If I recognize your voice - I have been watching your MIGHTY SUZUKI DR 650 video's for years - under a different youtube handle ???? - In my humble opinion - it IS THE BEST TRUE 50/50 DUAL SPORT MOTORCYCLE ON THE PLANET "PERIOD"....Leave it stock and enjoy the hell out of it - or mod the shit out of it - and create a fire breathing beast !!!!!!!!
probably me on the different channels, obi-wan. there's this channel, and enduro channel and also a trials channel. 😁
I'm curious what is your final drive ratio?
Front and rear sprockets? Stock.
@@crosstrainingadventure Thanks, I'll start practicing right away
I wheelie enjoyed that, cheers 😜👍
🤣
I can buy one of these for cheap sub €1000, but it has 80000km on it, (50000mls) should I? They are never for sale in my countey but I can get parts, and I can wrench...
we've covered the known issues on our adventure channel, JH. if it's a 1996 or later you could easily part it out and at least get your money back if the engine completely detonated for some reason.
@@crosstrainingadventure ok thank you sir:)
i should point out too, there was some guy here in australia debating whether to do his bottom end or not at 500,000 km. 👀 from memory he had replaced his rings/piston twice by then but otherwise everything was still running well. not a bad run!
@@crosstrainingadventure wow thats amazing for a big single! We have the suzuki xf650 freewind over here aswell. Same engine as the dr but in a bmw f650-like package:) the dr650se was sold to someone else, but I keep searching for one, I love the old school bomb proof bikes, I own a tt600re and a honda Hawk gt
I watched your videos and just bought a DR650 expecting it to be somewhat comparable to my old XL500S in terms of getting the wheel up. But there's no way in hell it can get the front off the ground in 3rd straight from the factory with the stock gearing. Even in 2nd it takes a fair whack of throttle input and the clutch to get it up, and mine is fully derestricted with all the usual mods and running perfectly. Compared to my XL500S, the DR650 is definitely no wheelie beast.
If you get the technique right it seems to come up very easily, Drew. But then a lot of bikes do in that case. We've covered wheelie technique in detail over on our adventure channel if you are interested... you certainly shouldn't need any clutch unless you are trying in fourth gear (in my experience).
@@crosstrainingadventure cheers. I've watched all your vids and love your stuff. I'm only a small fella so don't have a lot of weight behind me but I'll keep at it. I'm doing sit down wheelies so maybe that has something to do with it, although I am still learning.
You could say it’s a wheelie good bike.
😁
20000kms and front rubber still mint
I like the video I have a 2018 dr650 I put a supertrapp pipe on it and a pro cycle carb kit 9 discs in the super trap and the thing Road like it was a 250 motorcycle took it down to four discs in the supertrapp and now I think maybe it has half a horsepower more I am really disappointed okay what's your take on this and what are the videos you have on making this bike a lot better because right now I liked it better stock
Give it to someone who knows what hes doing ;
we've got a very detailed video series including the power mods on this channel, kevin
Husaberg 570 likes the back wheel
You’re on a DR unicycle
excellent video my friend. can you put subtitles in spanish? :v
no hablo espanol. 😢
imagine these blokes on 2 stroke dirt bikes as police chasing someone you wouldnt get away