You have a very nice way of narrating your point. I'd love to see more videos on Brompton. The other Brompton videos out there are way too scripted and kind of looses the feel of a story even if it was there. Hoping to see more on this channel. Cheers
Thanks so much for creating this review and comparing the Tern Vs Brompton from an engineering perspective! I have been debating between these two bikes, specifically the electric brompton vs Tern Vektron (S10, Q9). I wonder if Tern still uses such delicate or plastic parts for their Vektron.. which is quite pricey already. Brompton and Tern representatives have said that their frames are very solid and the hinge is made of metal.. but you perfectly illustrated the strengths and weaknesses of each core product design. Thank you!
another commenter said "That "plastic part" it's the safety pin of the hinge. It's an extra layer of safety for your hinge because as you said it, it's still possible to lock your bike without. So why make it of plastic? Because it's better to get that broken than your frame damaged, after that you take the to ths authorized Tern dealer to make a proper repair. Bu the way, you have to apply an unnecessary force to brake that safety pin and been a bit stubborn (or don't want to read the signal which says to unlock the hinge first)."
That "plastic part" it's the safety pin of the hinge. It's an extra layer of safety for your hinge because as you said it, it's still possible to lock your bike without. So why make it of plastic? Because it's better to get that broken than your frame damaged, after that you take the to ths authorized Tern dealer to make a proper repair. Bu the way, you have to apply an unnecessary force to brake that safety pin and been a bit stubborn (or don't want to read the signal which says to unlock the hinge first).
So which bike rides better for your tours? Bromptons fold easiest and smallest but not by much. They also have a lot of proprietary parts compared to Tern.
The plastic part only needs to keep the lock closed. For that purpose it is plenty strong. You don't have to make every part of armored steel. The Tern doesn't fold up as compact as the Brompton. The latter has one of the smallest folding systems in the world. But you are comparing a bike with 20 inch wheels to a 16 inch one. Of course that's not a fair comparison. A 20 inch one is bigger so the fold also is bigger. You can't pour a pint of milk in a half a pint bottle. The new Tern BYB has a more compact folding system.
I have 2 Tern (X 18 and X20 Verge series) l will be extra carefully when I ride next time ! I do receive the prastic pin when l buy the bike.Thank you for your video.
Actually today I received my Brompton S6L. And today was my first ride so it will take a week to get used to it. Thn let u know about Brompton and I haven’t used any dahon n tern
Buy a Brompton if you need a tiny, folded package. I rarely fold any of my folding bikes. I find 451 and 406 size wheels to provide a more comfortable ride.
Excellent video, have you heard of the term sacrificial, In engineering it's common to make weaker components designed to wear out before more expensive components. I keep spare plastic latch pins with mine and my wifes Tern P10's just like I always carry a puncture repairs kit. Things do break if used incorrectly, It's better to have a plastic pin and use the system correctly than a metal pin that wears away the locking notch which is an integral part of the frame. Do you prefer to replace a plastic pin or the back half of the frame, that's why Tern supply a spare pin with each bike. Don't forget the pin didn't wear out it failed due to being misused.
The plastic part will only break if you open the latch forcefully without pushing the safety pin. .I never broke a safety pin. I own two terns, x30h and modified vergep20 as shown on my profile photo.
I bought my first Tern last week
I love it
Very good advice on how to care for the Tern. Thank you.
which Model?
thanks for the tern tip. Now I’ll make sure I’m the only one who folds my bike lol.
I got the Tern Eclipse X22 for a year now and it’s been awesome!
You have a very nice way of narrating your point. I'd love to see more videos on Brompton. The other Brompton videos out there are way too scripted and kind of looses the feel of a story even if it was there. Hoping to see more on this channel. Cheers
Thanks so much for creating this review and comparing the Tern Vs Brompton from an engineering perspective! I have been debating between these two bikes, specifically the electric brompton vs Tern Vektron (S10, Q9). I wonder if Tern still uses such delicate or plastic parts for their Vektron.. which is quite pricey already. Brompton and Tern representatives have said that their frames are very solid and the hinge is made of metal.. but you perfectly illustrated the strengths and weaknesses of each core product design. Thank you!
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another commenter said "That "plastic part" it's the safety pin of the hinge. It's an extra layer of safety for your hinge because as you said it, it's still possible to lock your bike without. So why make it of plastic? Because it's better to get that broken than your frame damaged, after that you take the to ths authorized Tern dealer to make a proper repair. Bu the way, you have to apply an unnecessary force to brake that safety pin and been a bit stubborn (or don't want to read the signal which says to unlock the hinge first)."
That "plastic part" it's the safety pin of the hinge. It's an extra layer of safety for your hinge because as you said it, it's still possible to lock your bike without. So why make it of plastic? Because it's better to get that broken than your frame damaged, after that you take the to ths authorized Tern dealer to make a proper repair. Bu the way, you have to apply an unnecessary force to brake that safety pin and been a bit stubborn (or don't want to read the signal which says to unlock the hinge first).
Great video explaining everything so detailed
So which bike rides better for your tours? Bromptons fold easiest and smallest but not by much. They also have a lot of proprietary parts compared to Tern.
The plastic part only needs to keep the lock closed. For that purpose it is plenty strong. You don't have to make every part of armored steel.
The Tern doesn't fold up as compact as the Brompton. The latter has one of the smallest folding systems in the world. But you are comparing a bike with 20 inch wheels to a 16 inch one. Of course that's not a fair comparison. A 20 inch one is bigger so the fold also is bigger. You can't pour a pint of milk in a half a pint bottle. The new Tern BYB has a more compact folding system.
I have 2 Tern (X 18 and X20 Verge series) l will be extra carefully when I ride next time ! I do receive the prastic pin when l buy the bike.Thank you for your video.
why do you have to be extra careful ?
I own a verge x30h and clock more than 5000 kms... the plastic pin will only break if you forcefully open the latch without pushing the safety pin.
@@urbancyclingrevolution7575 .Tkx q for your info.l also like x30.the bullhorn and the 30 speed hub
I didn't receive any parts when I bought my Tern.
Tern verge x range are the greatest folders ever made PERIOD. Especially the X11 and X20..
Hi i have the same problem with the term bike lock. Did you change the whole thing? Thanks
You can't blame Tern if you broke the catch by not using it correctly.
since you have used the folding bikes quite well, can you suggest me which one is batter dahon or tern? or any else?
Actually today I received my Brompton S6L. And today was my first ride so it will take a week to get used to it. Thn let u know about Brompton and I haven’t used any dahon n tern
They are basically the same but tern hinge is much stiffer.
Buy a Brompton if you need a tiny, folded package. I rarely fold any of my folding bikes. I find 451 and 406 size wheels to provide a more comfortable ride.
@@urbancyclingrevolution7575do you find the stiffer hinge better?
Good video!
What you think about plastic: cheap parts
What companies think about plastic: weight saving
Excellent video, have you heard of the term sacrificial, In engineering it's common to make weaker components designed to wear out before more expensive components. I keep spare plastic latch pins with mine and my wifes Tern P10's just like I always carry a puncture repairs kit. Things do break if used incorrectly, It's better to have a plastic pin and use the system correctly than a metal pin that wears away the locking notch which is an integral part of the frame. Do you prefer to replace a plastic pin or the back half of the frame, that's why Tern supply a spare pin with each bike. Don't forget the pin didn't wear out it failed due to being misused.
So what you're saying is that dumb people are able to destroy a tern bike. That is good to know.
Are u indian ? I'm planning to buying a tern verge N8 my heart is stuck on a brompton but my pocket doesn't allow one..
Tern customer support is not great if in need of any spare parts trashing this bike the only option.
Rubbish
@@daveadriffield7296 That's my experience.
@@vmadugolkar I had my spare parts in a few days. Maybe you live in the middle of nowhere and your local reseller is a bit lax?
@@janpcs lucky you. I wish I was as lucky as you.
The plastic part will only break if you open the latch forcefully without pushing the safety pin. .I never broke a safety pin. I own two terns, x30h and modified vergep20 as shown on my profile photo.
and yeah Brompton folding mechanism is far superior than any other folding bikes.
Bromptons are full of plastic parts. My Tern wasn't sold with parts.
Thieves can cut cable locks easily, get u or d locks
Brompton is 2x too expensive, nobinnovatuin
Hello,
Can this folding bike be used by obese 110kg riders?
It takes about a day to set up the Tern? RUBBISH.
That's what I though. BS.
What an awful video... I feel like I need a bath now...
You need to get out more! 🤣
No replies... bad video
Oh, Brian. You don't have to express everything. Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and go about your business.