The issues with snk previous games just shows how much of an improvement COTW is. In relation to KOFXV, press has been the biggest contrast between the two. When XV was coming out there wasnt as nearly press for the game, be it interviews, discussions, videos ect. We had were scraping trying to get any gameplay or info. With how things went with XV it was definitely an improvement from 14, a giant leap? No, but a step towards something better. I have a bunch of gripes with the game, and SNK overall as a company till recently- and a reason for the game not "thriving" is definitely a lack of...i guess motion in the game. A stream of content be it costumes, stages, more boss battles, collaborations in the mind of "heres a SNK X NJPW costume pack" or whatever. Obviously the East being a priority or having been the only real priority for the company for a long time didn't help as well. SNK finally realizing they need to appeal to the west, sucks that XV didn't do as great as it possibly could have but again referring back to cotw, we see that changing. From 14, Samsho, 15. Each game did something well but each definitely lacked in areas. COTW is the culmination of all those lessons. I got a other stuff to say but imma be honest this comment already mad fucking long LOL but yeah thats my 2 cents.
@@DecepySwag Your statement in that final segment is something that Ive also been basically saying about those three games (XIV, SamSho & XV). They all just fall under the label of "could have been better". I remember those days where people were on edge about the lack of info & marketing during XV's promo run.
It seems as if SNK seems to forget to finish certain aspects of the games they release. Samsho didn't get the treatment it deserved whether it be the unfinished and discarded ghost battle mode, the late rollback addition(with no type of cross play mention), and the quick end of the game. KOF XV had problems in terms of some of the dlc should have been base roster characters, boss battle mode went ignored much like ghost battle mode from samsho, no costumes outside of certain characters, hardly any new stages, etc. I really hope cotw does everything that kof xv and samsho didn't with that said.
@@OnyxeBlade Enough people showed up to where KOF XV was still a main game at EVO and this will be its third time. KOF XIII was a main game three times as well. In terms of its EVO presence, it pretty much met the standard of what is considered one of the best KOFs & stayed longer than its predecessor XIV, which was a main game only once at EVO.
Literally you can go online and there's always a room or two open and dozens of matches in quick play. Me and several others play near daily as well. People do show up,and this Evo is proof with KOF XV still being a main 3. Womp womp
Didn't know @thatcreepyreading was into fighting games, but yea SNK's reveals were just cool this year not amazing. Kevin and SvC was cool, vice and mature aren't going to lead into season so idk how to feel about KOFXV's future. Let's see what the next reveals are going to be from the other companies.
If u ask me it's just lazy. Huge fan of king of fighters. Kof is my favorite fighting game franchise after mortal Kombat. And i had huge hype and respect for the franchise. But both mortal Kombat and kof has been disappointing me for the last 6 years. Both mortal Kombat 1 and kof xv was a huge huge letdown. Kof xv was 90% asset reuse from the last one and all the stages looked ass compared to xiv. The character selection for the xv had been the real stinger for me. The year 2 dlc was straight up shit aside from goenitz. I really thought in the third year we could finally get a free boss like before from the nest saga. The season 2 was straight bad i didn't bother buying it. The lack of modes and customizations of this game and it makes mortal Kombat 1 looks like it has millions other things. Shame on u snk. Shatter expectations. Well they did but completely in the wrong way. I have never been more disappointed in a game quite like kof xv. No single player content other than arcade that garish looking UI everything about this game feels half baked.
15:19 Seriously the one in the Middle looks like The Gross Sisters Uncle if The Proud Family was an Anime. NGL for a second I thought that they weren’t going to use Dolvic Bourne. So there is a chance.
No Shen Woo or crazy characters like a Ryu, Heihachi or Skullomania, no new costumes, no new stages, No Orochi as a boss. Siiiiigghhh very lackluster presentation
I don’t think single player content is enough to get people invested in either KOF15 or the upcoming Fatal Fury. Guilty Gear has unmatched animation & visuals, and characters with updated designs cool movesets, a mix of characters that combine power fantasies with personalities players get emotionally invested in (Bridget and trans visibility, ABA and needy girls with borderline personality disorder, Slayer and emo daddy issues, Happy Chaos and teenage fckboy energy). Street Fighter & Mortal Kombat are household names in the US. Tekken has great art direction, great electronic music, and it’s the only 3D title that doesn’t seem to have one foot planted in a bygone era. STRIVE, one of the most successful recent fighting games, has no single player content (not counting the in-game anime). SNK has dozens of characters that would fit into 1980s & 1990s Hollywood action movies, because that era of film was a primary influence on SNK. The appeal of Duke Nukem & Max Payne went away, and it feels like the dominance of Marvel’s superhero IPs is on the decline at last. Hearing Yoichiro Soeda say that those original Vice & Mature costumes-looking like they’re part of a R&B group (those looks are something En Vogue would wear inna video!)-were “the best” explained A LOT. That’s somebody that you do NOT need designing characters in 2024. Maybe they went with that look because it would cost time & money to create something relevant, or maybe they really think pandering to nostalgia is important. Just because we love what something was, it doesn’t mean we have to love what it is or will become, nor should we try to control it. If you love something, let it go.
@@surrendering2within One point that I didnt make in the video (because we shifted topics) is that one of the biggest selling points fans have when it comes to SNK fighting games is the story. People boast that their stories are much better and immersive than most other fighting game stories, which I agree with personally. That said, the problem is they didnt put enough of that in the game. If they would've made a more extensive, creative story mode that showcased a lot of more that story that people love to brag about, it would've encouraged people to play and possibly get newer players into the game. Thats where single player content can come in, it could help accentuate one of the other better attributes of KOF. But nope...it was another by-the-numbers arcade mode that was only intriguing if you played one of the key four teams. Strive has a lower barrier of entry than KOF, which is why a lot of newer, casual players are flocking to it. That plus the addition of something like the community combos (which Creepy slightly alluded to) definitely helped out. Plus Strive just stays pumping out characters like crazy. With KOF's tricky barrier to entry, those new and casual players will generally have nothing else to really invest in. Going online and getting bodied is gonna discourage them more. So now what do they have to really invest in? Sure they can go online and look up videos & other sources that could get them into the story, but stuff like that generally hits a lot better when its in the game. The KOF XV website is a wonderful source for learning more about the characters, but why couldnt they have some scenes of some of those team & character stories in the game? Thats why I speak on single player content like I do. It would've helped add to a game that basically more tailored to hardcore fans.
SNK has been such a huge letdown this last 2 years with how KOF is managed. Tekken and SF6 had demostrated why are miles ahead or KOF not in graphics but in content, SNK thinks a half-assed image of a character doing the exact same thing they did in XIV is good content.
I disagree. SF6 has dropped the ball in content/characters. 1 character every 6 months is pathetic. Also, they're breaking canon just like SNK. At least kof15 gameplay is fast and fun. SF6 is so slow and boring. KOF15 definitely needs to be managed better, but SF6 is definitely not better.
@@24framedavinci39 Nah SF6 is hella better even with the fact of how annoying & grating their microtransactions are. Everyone loves to conveniently leave out that you dont JUST get the character in SF6, you get an extension of World Tour Mode as well (part of which involves being able to give your World Tour character the moves/fighting style of said DLC characters). They add to their offline single player content two-fold seeing that its mostly competitive players bent on getting their hands on the characters and mostly casuals who dwell in world tour mode. SNK merely revealed two characters that we are getting in 5 months and thats basically it. They didnt even announce the addition of another boss to the only other offline mode that this game has. Most of the people that are gonna buy them are hardcore KOF fans...and once again, that is the problem. SNK mostly catered to hardcore fans with XV. Vice & Mature couldve been my favorite KOF characters and Id still say SF6 still has better content overall. KoF XV's content is hella dry.
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The issues with snk previous games just shows how much of an improvement COTW is. In relation to KOFXV, press has been the biggest contrast between the two. When XV was coming out there wasnt as nearly press for the game, be it interviews, discussions, videos ect. We had were scraping trying to get any gameplay or info. With how things went with XV it was definitely an improvement from 14, a giant leap? No, but a step towards something better.
I have a bunch of gripes with the game, and SNK overall as a company till recently- and a reason for the game not "thriving" is definitely a lack of...i guess motion in the game. A stream of content be it costumes, stages, more boss battles, collaborations in the mind of "heres a SNK X NJPW costume pack" or whatever. Obviously the East being a priority or having been the only real priority for the company for a long time didn't help as well. SNK finally realizing they need to appeal to the west, sucks that XV didn't do as great as it possibly could have but again referring back to cotw, we see that changing.
From 14, Samsho, 15. Each game did something well but each definitely lacked in areas. COTW is the culmination of all those lessons. I got a other stuff to say but imma be honest this comment already mad fucking long LOL but yeah thats my 2 cents.
@@DecepySwag Your statement in that final segment is something that Ive also been basically saying about those three games (XIV, SamSho & XV). They all just fall under the label of "could have been better".
I remember those days where people were on edge about the lack of info & marketing during XV's promo run.
Okay Preecha's my girl but damn her old designs look better
@@skaknight9291 Dont even get me started lol
Every dead character came back to life since 14
True
It seems as if SNK seems to forget to finish certain aspects of the games they release. Samsho didn't get the treatment it deserved whether it be the unfinished and discarded ghost battle mode, the late rollback addition(with no type of cross play mention), and the quick end of the game. KOF XV had problems in terms of some of the dlc should have been base roster characters, boss battle mode went ignored much like ghost battle mode from samsho, no costumes outside of certain characters, hardly any new stages, etc. I really hope cotw does everything that kof xv and samsho didn't with that said.
My two wives are back this a dub for me. And i been waiting years on Vice!
"If the game was thriving people would be showing up" Creepy is NOT WRONG
@@OnyxeBlade Enough people showed up to where KOF XV was still a main game at EVO and this will be its third time. KOF XIII was a main game three times as well. In terms of its EVO presence, it pretty much met the standard of what is considered one of the best KOFs & stayed longer than its predecessor XIV, which was a main game only once at EVO.
Literally you can go online and there's always a room or two open and dozens of matches in quick play. Me and several others play near daily as well.
People do show up,and this Evo is proof with KOF XV still being a main 3. Womp womp
Look at the first one😭 11:55
I was really hoping for Goro Daimon to return. Oh well.
Didn't know @thatcreepyreading was into fighting games, but yea SNK's reveals were just cool this year not amazing. Kevin and SvC was cool, vice and mature aren't going to lead into season so idk how to feel about KOFXV's future. Let's see what the next reveals are going to be from the other companies.
Vice and Mature returns let's gooooo!!
If u ask me it's just lazy. Huge fan of king of fighters. Kof is my favorite fighting game franchise after mortal Kombat. And i had huge hype and respect for the franchise. But both mortal Kombat and kof has been disappointing me for the last 6 years. Both mortal Kombat 1 and kof xv was a huge huge letdown. Kof xv was 90% asset reuse from the last one and all the stages looked ass compared to xiv. The character selection for the xv had been the real stinger for me. The year 2 dlc was straight up shit aside from goenitz. I really thought in the third year we could finally get a free boss like before from the nest saga. The season 2 was straight bad i didn't bother buying it. The lack of modes and customizations of this game and it makes mortal Kombat 1 looks like it has millions other things. Shame on u snk. Shatter expectations. Well they did but completely in the wrong way. I have never been more disappointed in a game quite like kof xv. No single player content other than arcade that garish looking UI everything about this game feels half baked.
Hey at least Rugal got his team back
15:19 Seriously the one in the Middle looks like The Gross Sisters Uncle if The Proud Family was an Anime.
NGL for a second I thought that they weren’t going to use Dolvic Bourne.
So there is a chance.
what's your thought about EVO day 1?
@@winterice2022 Aside from this and FGC Feud, I only watched KOF and Under Night pools.
I enjoyed everything overall minus the SNK panel.
@@TheChrisLotus that's good
SNK panel was BORING but I did appreciate the behind the scene/trivia related stuff
No Shen Woo or crazy characters like a Ryu, Heihachi or Skullomania, no new costumes, no new stages, No Orochi as a boss. Siiiiigghhh very lackluster presentation
I don’t think single player content is enough to get people invested in either KOF15 or the upcoming Fatal Fury. Guilty Gear has unmatched animation & visuals, and characters with updated designs cool movesets, a mix of characters that combine power fantasies with personalities players get emotionally invested in (Bridget and trans visibility, ABA and needy girls with borderline personality disorder, Slayer and emo daddy issues, Happy Chaos and teenage fckboy energy). Street Fighter & Mortal Kombat are household names in the US. Tekken has great art direction, great electronic music, and it’s the only 3D title that doesn’t seem to have one foot planted in a bygone era.
STRIVE, one of the most successful recent fighting games, has no single player content (not counting the in-game anime).
SNK has dozens of characters that would fit into 1980s & 1990s Hollywood action movies, because that era of film was a primary influence on SNK. The appeal of Duke Nukem & Max Payne went away, and it feels like the dominance of Marvel’s superhero IPs is on the decline at last.
Hearing Yoichiro Soeda say that those original Vice & Mature costumes-looking like they’re part of a R&B group (those looks are something En Vogue would wear inna video!)-were “the best” explained A LOT. That’s somebody that you do NOT need designing characters in 2024. Maybe they went with that look because it would cost time & money to create something relevant, or maybe they really think pandering to nostalgia is important.
Just because we love what something was, it doesn’t mean we have to love what it is or will become, nor should we try to control it. If you love something, let it go.
@@surrendering2within One point that I didnt make in the video (because we shifted topics) is that one of the biggest selling points fans have when it comes to SNK fighting games is the story. People boast that their stories are much better and immersive than most other fighting game stories, which I agree with personally.
That said, the problem is they didnt put enough of that in the game. If they would've made a more extensive, creative story mode that showcased a lot of more that story that people love to brag about, it would've encouraged people to play and possibly get newer players into the game. Thats where single player content can come in, it could help accentuate one of the other better attributes of KOF. But nope...it was another by-the-numbers arcade mode that was only intriguing if you played one of the key four teams.
Strive has a lower barrier of entry than KOF, which is why a lot of newer, casual players are flocking to it. That plus the addition of something like the community combos (which Creepy slightly alluded to) definitely helped out. Plus Strive just stays pumping out characters like crazy.
With KOF's tricky barrier to entry, those new and casual players will generally have nothing else to really invest in. Going online and getting bodied is gonna discourage them more. So now what do they have to really invest in? Sure they can go online and look up videos & other sources that could get them into the story, but stuff like that generally hits a lot better when its in the game. The KOF XV website is a wonderful source for learning more about the characters, but why couldnt they have some scenes of some of those team & character stories in the game? Thats why I speak on single player content like I do. It would've helped add to a game that basically more tailored to hardcore fans.
SNK has been such a huge letdown this last 2 years with how KOF is managed. Tekken and SF6 had demostrated why are miles ahead or KOF not in graphics but in content, SNK thinks a half-assed image of a character doing the exact same thing they did in XIV is good content.
@@ppprime98K This is the bigger picture so many people overlook unfortunately.
@@ppprime98K I'm glad that someone who's not letting snk get any shortcut. This is just pure laziness
I disagree. SF6 has dropped the ball in content/characters. 1 character every 6 months is pathetic. Also, they're breaking canon just like SNK. At least kof15 gameplay is fast and fun. SF6 is so slow and boring.
KOF15 definitely needs to be managed better, but SF6 is definitely not better.
Glad kof doesn't have micro transactions
@@24framedavinci39 Nah SF6 is hella better even with the fact of how annoying & grating their microtransactions are.
Everyone loves to conveniently leave out that you dont JUST get the character in SF6, you get an extension of World Tour Mode as well (part of which involves being able to give your World Tour character the moves/fighting style of said DLC characters). They add to their offline single player content two-fold seeing that its mostly competitive players bent on getting their hands on the characters and mostly casuals who dwell in world tour mode.
SNK merely revealed two characters that we are getting in 5 months and thats basically it. They didnt even announce the addition of another boss to the only other offline mode that this game has. Most of the people that are gonna buy them are hardcore KOF fans...and once again, that is the problem. SNK mostly catered to hardcore fans with XV. Vice & Mature couldve been my favorite KOF characters and Id still say SF6 still has better content overall. KoF XV's content is hella dry.