2b2t 1.19 Update Follow-Up - OWNER RESPONDED

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  • @SalC1
    @SalC1  ปีที่แล้ว +677

    UPDATE - AUGUST 27: HAUSEMASTER CAVED, 2b2t has ROLLED BACK! th-cam.com/users/postUgkxSP0v4_tebs70rHUkG4R-8S0Cskz2DAho

  • @Mate_Antal_Zoltan
    @Mate_Antal_Zoltan ปีที่แล้ว +14591

    Crazy how he immediately responds when there is a call to action to refund the priority queues lmao

    • @gulfcitynd
      @gulfcitynd ปีที่แล้ว +725

      A lot of people will be leaving the server hurting the cash flow

    • @dadtwoknee632
      @dadtwoknee632 ปีที่แล้ว +452

      You mean crazy how fast he responds when streamers leave.

    • @Alacachoo
      @Alacachoo ปีที่แล้ว +352

      Money talks I guess

    • @cuddlecakes7153
      @cuddlecakes7153 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      But that happened around the same time the update happened which is several days ago so that doesn't make any sense

    • @tenet2406
      @tenet2406 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Eh makes sense, seems like housemaster made some investments into the server so now he wants the profits

  • @ahmar.
    @ahmar. ปีที่แล้ว +15622

    I can't believe how immersed i am in the drama about an anarchy server i never played on before!

    • @SajtNinja
      @SajtNinja ปีที่แล้ว +140

      Same😂

    • @j.peters1222
      @j.peters1222 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      Its a monumental task waiting in that queue. We are talking hours. So even if you wanted to, without priority queue, it's going to be difficult.

    • @ruileite4579
      @ruileite4579 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Same, and I doubt I'll ever play on it tbh

    • @_Sparky144
      @_Sparky144 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same.

    • @randomgamingin144p
      @randomgamingin144p ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j.peters1222 i once got past the queue when there were only 200 but it still took at least 3 hours

  • @spy97_
    @spy97_ ปีที่แล้ว +2229

    Not only did he double down, but he convinced people even more to refund their purchases! What a good guy.

    • @kaksspl
      @kaksspl ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Hold on, I don't know the full story as this video just poped up in my recommendations but, people bought some premium and now they want it refunded after years of using it because of an update?
      Who in their right mind would accept such refund? Maybe I should've tried to refund R6S when I stopped liking their updates? So what I already had hundreds of hours in it? I'm sure Steam would agree with me.

    • @therealdeemz_
      @therealdeemz_ ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@kaksspl The difference is you didn't get all of your progress on R6S removed when that single update happened

    • @kaksspl
      @kaksspl ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@therealdeemz_ I've lost progress in many games due to many reasons, including updates. Shit happens.

    • @Jake28
      @Jake28 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@kaksspl isn't priority queue monthly though??

    • @kaksspl
      @kaksspl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Jake28 Idk but if so, just stop the subscription.

  • @Florkl
    @Florkl ปีที่แล้ว +7163

    These are reasonable rules to implement basically anywhere but an anarchy server. If implemented on an anarchy server, though, it simply becomes a server.

    • @Yesenn
      @Yesenn ปีที่แล้ว +587

      The only "rule" I would allow on an anarchy server is to keep everything in game.
      Basically just no doxxing players, or hacking someones PC to download a virus. That kinda stuff.

    • @Miraihi
      @Miraihi ปีที่แล้ว +491

      @@Yesenn There are also the rules that make the existence of the server technically possible - most prominently including various anti-lag measures. If you actually let people do what they want, at some point someone will build a massive lag machine for shits and giggles and make the server unplayable for everyone.

    • @theninjamdm
      @theninjamdm ปีที่แล้ว +94

      As fit always says "2b2t the ...... ...... server on minecraft" right?

    • @waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976
      @waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      No, deleting people's items isn't cool on a regular server either.

    • @DarkShard5728
      @DarkShard5728 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      ​@@waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976Depends, if it's duped stuff then no. But this wasn't just a server, it was an anarchy server

  • @icedcave
    @icedcave ปีที่แล้ว +1197

    New owners of 2b2t shocked to find out that if they ruin the server people wont like it, let alone pay for it
    on to bigger and better things ig

    • @TheMisterDarknight
      @TheMisterDarknight ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Why am I not surprised you're here

    • @frankdegarcia
      @frankdegarcia ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Honestly, I think the new owner is just trying to kill the server on purpose so it could be eventually shut down

    • @saladman3915
      @saladman3915 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      common icedcave W

    • @theunium
      @theunium ปีที่แล้ว +13

      its the funny gd man

    • @enolopanr9820
      @enolopanr9820 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Do they not know where all of their money comes from? The entire existence of the server comes from the loyal community. Once you lose that the server goes with it.

  • @The_Horizon
    @The_Horizon ปีที่แล้ว +2249

    I did a poll on my community tab. only 7% of my viewers, who are what you call the "silent majority" agreed with the changes. FYI, it also happens to be that 7% of the population believes chocolate milk comes from chocolate cows.

    • @indianaliam1
      @indianaliam1 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      LOL i checked it's 3% now

    • @The_Horizon
      @The_Horizon ปีที่แล้ว +228

      @@indianaliam1 I excluded the people who didn't know what the changes were about since that wouldn't be fair to include.

    • @StuffandThings_
      @StuffandThings_ ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Maybe the chocolate cows enjoy the changes?

    • @PugMaleAndSingle
      @PugMaleAndSingle ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Maybe the Microsoft team enjoys the changes?

    • @B0R3Dn
      @B0R3Dn ปีที่แล้ว +31

      i thought everyone was smart enough to know chocolate milk comes from rainbow unicorn barf.... dissapointing how there could be anyone who believes such a thing as chocolate cows

  • @ClaudioProductionsX
    @ClaudioProductionsX ปีที่แล้ว +4248

    I have to give it to them, 1.19 update was by far the most destructive griefing ever done in 2b2t.

    • @amatoyoichi8468
      @amatoyoichi8468 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      The greatest grief ever done on 2b2t soon to be survival server

    • @youtonene6466
      @youtonene6466 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      2b2t: the worlds oldest survival server

    • @ismailozer1
      @ismailozer1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Godot brother

    • @till7253
      @till7253 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@youtonene6466thats minecraftonline

    • @Newibe
      @Newibe ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@youtonene6466i dont think thats even true, its more or so “2b2t: one of minecraft’s servers”

  • @f.r3644
    @f.r3644 ปีที่แล้ว +1019

    This is like taking a piece of copper, letting it age, presenting it as art and then restoring it because "the art is important"

    • @Settings208
      @Settings208 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      that would be like slapping a new coat of paint on the roman and greek buildings and statues from the classical era, except adding the paint back to those statues would actually make something beautiful and not the bullshit that hause is doing, if that even is the real hause anymore

    • @binbows2258
      @binbows2258 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Settings208 idk man I think the buildings look good with paint but the statues look better without paint

    • @urbexingTss
      @urbexingTss ปีที่แล้ว

      the statues originally didn't even have any paint@@binbows2258

    • @sjs9698
      @sjs9698 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Settings208 & that (afaik) a lot of that stuff was originally painted & colourful (garishly so, to my eye if the images of what they used to look like are accurate) so that actually kinda aproaches art restoration, rather than profit-driven vandalism...

    • @makutamiserix5612
      @makutamiserix5612 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spider-Man No Way Home in a nutshell

  • @MineCreeperLPs
    @MineCreeperLPs ปีที่แล้ว +1988

    It's rather strange that the server owner now sounds more like a corporate entity than Haus ever talked in previous interviews with him.

    • @basketcaseface813
      @basketcaseface813 ปีที่แล้ว +611

      Exactly. It’s definitely not Hausemaster anymore.

    • @_colonial_
      @_colonial_ ปีที่แล้ว +507

      Yeah, he likely sold the joint. Good for him, honestly - he probably managed to extract mad money from some clueless corporation.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +202

      He definitely lied when he said these changes made the server "more anarchy." And he feels the need to specify he is the same man that has always run 2b2t even though we know for a fact Hause is at least two people so these sudden arbitrary changes may be because of new management.

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@_colonial_ what train-wreck of a mind set does a cooperation need to have to buy 2B2T? How do find staff to run the beast?
      You can not hire from the community, as they would exploit their access.
      You can not hire from outside, as how could they understand the community.
      How can an outsider understand the server infrastructure?
      For mental health reasons - just to avoid burn out - you need multiple people.
      Try to get operators of an anarchy server to tow on the same rope.
      Possible if you grow the staff slowly and organically - but... 2B2T: It needs drama every so often and handling drama is part of both on boarding and daily operation - so you can not just replace staff quickly.

    • @tsuwaque
      @tsuwaque ปีที่แล้ว +27

      yeah exactly he sounds like Mojang

  • @ponteirodorato
    @ponteirodorato ปีที่แล้ว +2907

    It seems like Hause was kidnapped and replaced by a company bot, these email replies felt so soulless

    • @tuff_lover
      @tuff_lover ปีที่แล้ว +186

      No, its just some petty "muh money" shit.

    • @ponteirodorato
      @ponteirodorato ปีที่แล้ว +272

      @@tuff_lover Yeah, that was what I meant, Hause went soulless just for greed.
      I honestly apologise if the joke/sentence felt out of place, I'm not a native english speaker.

    • @alsen99
      @alsen99 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      His true colors are showing

    • @bifusmorgus9000
      @bifusmorgus9000 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@ponteirodorato hause left 2b2t in 2014

    • @Flygono03
      @Flygono03 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      So passive aggressive too

  • @dreamhollow
    @dreamhollow ปีที่แล้ว +635

    Hause fell so hard.
    Lots of theories that the real Hause/House left a long time ago.
    Definitely not the same mysterious but semi-reasonable dude from years ago.

    • @gairisiuil
      @gairisiuil ปีที่แล้ว +131

      definitely not the same dude at all, its a different person

    • @wandereringshadow8658
      @wandereringshadow8658 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      @@gairisiuil Its a group of people, given that they often slip up and say "We". Wouldn't be surprised if Nerds Inc are behind the scenes.

    • @myalt3019
      @myalt3019 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Imo there was the original Hause, then the 2016 Hause, then the current one. This server's changed hands before

    • @deaexmachina6534
      @deaexmachina6534 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      People age, they change, thats normal.

    • @NearQuasar
      @NearQuasar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deaexmachina6534Hausemaster’s personality changed suddenly when he announced on the now defunct 2b2t website that he was leaving 2b2t forever and that an “anonymous friend” was taking over.

  • @EliteEric
    @EliteEric ปีที่แล้ว +421

    "More vanilla and anarchy than every before"
    *has rules*

    • @valletas
      @valletas ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Well technically he is right in the "more vanilla" part lmao

    • @martinshoosterman
      @martinshoosterman ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Also isn't using a vanilla server 😂.

    • @iridiumnight42
      @iridiumnight42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@valletas id argue dupes are vanilla since you don't need to download anything to do the majority of them. The removal the objects is not vanilla however.

    • @AlexeiDimitri
      @AlexeiDimitri ปีที่แล้ว

      So u doesn`t know what anarchy means.
      Anarchy is about no having a judgement system for player disagreements nor a executive frequent stuff.
      EVERY system have rules (or a ruler). Hause ruled always. This time he is being more transparent and doing a more democrative aproach than before.

    • @B__ri__d__ge
      @B__ri__d__ge ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AlexeiDimitri I think YOU don't know what anarchism is. First of all, there is still a justice modus operandi, I think... transformative justice. Secondly, Anarchism is more than just about that. It wants people to have the most freedom possible as long as you don't hurt other people in the process of this freedom. Also mutual aid, etc.

  • @DoctorAids
    @DoctorAids ปีที่แล้ว +1112

    It feels like the 2B2T owner was kidnapped and replaced with some 24/7 towny prison server owner and told to imitate hausmaster

    • @iluvpandas2755
      @iluvpandas2755 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      probably

    • @NotCOPPAFTCA
      @NotCOPPAFTCA ปีที่แล้ว +133

      Fallout 4 plot but awesome:

    • @deetsteve00
      @deetsteve00 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      Hause left 2b2t long ago and his replacement accidentally let a backdoor. So he came back and sold it to CurtPVP

    • @deltahl
      @deltahl ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It was sold to TheArchon.

    • @FenceAKAGlasnost
      @FenceAKAGlasnost ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ​@@deetsteve00popbob

  • @zitronensaaft3454
    @zitronensaaft3454 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    honestly the fact that a server such as 2b2t could have so much of its history erased by these new rules is kind of poetic, given how impermanent the things created on the server were.

    • @leflyxdvd
      @leflyxdvd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      my guy its history, deal with it, remember it, and move on.
      As if the world is going to keep everything that is ever made... its a video game, re-write history make your own thing for years to come. eventually it disappears.

    • @honaldjason
      @honaldjason ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@leflyxdvdwhy the fuck are you here then?

  • @JayFeather321
    @JayFeather321 ปีที่แล้ว +1495

    You know, it’s a bad thing that 2b2t made so many old players quit, but it’s another thing entirely to get so many parts of the community, who have traditionally either not agreed or were outright enemies, to have a shared message and goal

    • @Keygentlemen
      @Keygentlemen ปีที่แล้ว +108

      "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

    • @Dokattak
      @Dokattak ปีที่แล้ว +71

      The worst thing to be is the common enemy of two or more parties.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait, when I try and get in without priority queue I am still 300rd in line. Are those all robot accounts or are reports of mass exodus overblown?

    • @GikamesShadow
      @GikamesShadow ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@samsonsoturian6013 You do know how many people around the world play on the server right?

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GikamesShadow how long are the lines with priority queue?

  • @SakuyalzayoiTheMaid
    @SakuyalzayoiTheMaid ปีที่แล้ว +5263

    The final and ultimate grief on 2b2t, Hause nuked the entire server.

    • @FrinnP1F
      @FrinnP1F ปีที่แล้ว +122

      LMAO

    • @blackoutgstar9949
      @blackoutgstar9949 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      you guys destroyed it.
      someone is going to pay money to not even be able to change chunks at times so you can dupe your 10000000th shulker box.
      you chased off one of the biggest youtubers ever. mr beast.
      so you didn't have to wait longer in queue? or that the new people would destroy the "history"? you guys already destroyed all the history.
      on the oldest server for what? to look at a bunch of craters and lavacasts? sit in one chunk because it's too laggy to move
      one mr beast video would have brought in people to replace all of you, and make more money than currently
      you're all bad for the server.
      the server was around before priority queue, server was around before 99.9% of you.
      in the ufc there used to be no rules too. but for ufc to grow and go to bigger places they had to make rules.
      i'm not sitting 4 hours to be stuck in one chunk.
      you have xray. go mine, go get xp, make your gear.
      you don't need to dupe every single thing a billion times. it's stupid.
      don't you think you would have more fun if you had to actually do stuff. and it would actually mean something if you lost the set you had. or it would actually mean something if you took someone else's stuff.

    • @Boomburd
      @Boomburd ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't play on an anarchy server if you don't want anarchy@@blackoutgstar9949

    • @DoubsGaming
      @DoubsGaming ปีที่แล้ว +307

      anarchy
      noun
      1. a state of disorder due to absence or non-recognition of authority or other controlling systems
      Example: the country has been plunged into a state of anarchy
      2. the organization of society on the basis of voluntary cooperation, without political institutions or hierarchical government; anarchism.
      -google dictionary.

    • @JustPlayerDE
      @JustPlayerDE ปีที่แล้ว +488

      ​@@blackoutgstar9949play on a normal smp then, 2b2t was never intended for normal players who wanna play survival lol

  • @Wint9rification
    @Wint9rification ปีที่แล้ว +83

    2b2t has lived long enough to see themselves become the villains

  • @_Devil
    @_Devil ปีที่แล้ว +5039

    The only upside to the response is that now you know for sure you're making the right decision by walking away and not giving this server free advertising. If you're anything like me, then you might've felt a little guilty doing it at first. You might've even had a small portion of your gut telling you this might be the wrong move to make. But now the owner/operator/decision maker of the server has DOUBLED DOWN on their choices, any anxiety you might have felt has washed away in one foul swoop. A huge weight was lifted off your shoulder, and you now feel free. You know now you can finally move on from this drama and leave it at where it's at now. I trust you'll maintain your integrity and not go back on your words until the server is brought back to its pre-1.19 glory. This is a great video as always and you're a fantastic creator, Sal, in part because you're so honest and transparent. I wish you luck going forward and I can't wait to see what else you will bring to this channel in the future!

    • @melontusk2591
      @melontusk2591 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      isn't it fell swoop

    • @memeque4700
      @memeque4700 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Just move to 2b2t2 it's non profit and they say it'll prevent them from being purchased the way 2b2t was. The second 2b2t was purchased, it was doomed, and it was inevitable for some new owner to tamper with it's rules, and history.

    • @_Devil
      @_Devil ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@melontusk2591 I think it actually is 😭😭But if I edit my comment then I lose my heart

    • @SuperM789
      @SuperM789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the best move would've been to not respond

    • @dumiahbro
      @dumiahbro ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I read allat, and it was beautiful.

  • @oliverandtoadfan89
    @oliverandtoadfan89 ปีที่แล้ว +1689

    when the oldest anarchy server is now a glorified survival server, you know it's over.

    • @lorenzooliveira1157
      @lorenzooliveira1157 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Perhaps someone will capitalize on the hole of anarchy servers?

    • @R1ckRossFromLatvia
      @R1ckRossFromLatvia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cant you just stop crying?

    • @alex.g7317
      @alex.g7317 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@R1ckRossFromLatvia😢

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@R1ckRossFromLatvia What makes you think hes crying?

    • @betabee1221
      @betabee1221 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Was likely forced by Mojang to either become a glorified survival server, or be forcibly shut down permanently. Just sayin

  • @ocksie
    @ocksie ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i'm only 20 seconds in and i just love how the admin, instead of replying to your email with "okay, i will disable your subscription", decided to have a little fit and complain about how actually you're wrong, and all these changes stopping 2b2t from actually being anarchy are good for the server (even though they're not)

    • @Kubistonek
      @Kubistonek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not disable, refund

  • @dialga236
    @dialga236 ปีที่แล้ว +4451

    actually amazing how swiftly theyve destroyed 2b2t. genuinely impressive.

    • @Pbg4444
      @Pbg4444 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      yea making these changes require much more stupidity than an average human has

    • @kamo7293
      @kamo7293 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      when an anarchy server allows you to destroy everything with no rules the last thing to destroy is the server itself

    • @averesenso
      @averesenso ปีที่แล้ว +81

      That email is so poorly written, it's embarrassing.

    • @Zedryx69
      @Zedryx69 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Kinda like Elon removing the block feature from Twitter.
      I will never call it X unironically.

    • @StuffandThings_
      @StuffandThings_ ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Some new admin on a power trip, people like that tend to be rather idiotic

  • @Rebs
    @Rebs ปีที่แล้ว +666

    borderline insulting they're trying to convince us all these changes are "more anarchy than ever". a blatant slap in the face and a clear blatant unwillingness to understand the community.

    • @Doad_YT
      @Doad_YT ปีที่แล้ว +16

      This is the beginning of the end for 2b2t.

    • @Apple_Beshy
      @Apple_Beshy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Doad_YT"end of 2b2t" how delusional are you? It's still the same, the rules has been there since the beginning, and player count doesn't even change that much 💀 You didn't even understand what the update are huh

    • @Doad_YT
      @Doad_YT ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Apple_Beshy That's cool, why are you so emotional? It's okay babe you can cry into my shoulder if you want.

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow, it seems Hausemaster actually listened!
    When I scrolled through my server list I noticed that 2b2t had the motd "Server is rolling back to 14th august".

    • @QWERTY708100
      @QWERTY708100 ปีที่แล้ว

      doubt that this dude is hause lol

    • @Lampe2020
      @Lampe2020 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@QWERTY708100
      It's maybe not the same person as the original person behind Hausemaster, but it's the same internet personality no matter which real human is behind it.

  • @GMPranav
    @GMPranav ปีที่แล้ว +2427

    Another important point - A vast majority of Sal's viewers do not play in 2b2t. In a poll he conducted recently, only 2% of the 55K votes said they were playing there. And the number of people who bought priority queue among those is probably even lesser. So I don't even think Sal asking players to refund is a big reason there have been so many refunds. The players are capable of realising how dogshit it is to play there themselves.

    • @randomviewer3494
      @randomviewer3494 ปีที่แล้ว +259

      Your logic is flawed. It isn't about how many of his viewers play 2b, its how many 2b players watch his videos. And as a former 2b player I can say that last one is a lot. Sal has lots of respect in the community and I'd bet at least 60-70% watch his videos or hear about it.

    • @Hexcede
      @Hexcede ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Another problem with this logic is that not all of Sal's videos are targeted at 2b players. This video and his last one will see far more interaction from 2b players than his general videos because they are 2b related. Even if his subscribers and followers are not 2b players, 2b players will undoubtedly watch this content.

    • @louzo5175
      @louzo5175 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      a bit flawed logic there, but it doesnt mean that the point you were leading to is bad

    • @korok2619
      @korok2619 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      the % of 2b players who will watch his video on such huge news of 2b is really high

    • @khrysos2161
      @khrysos2161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah playing on it sounds like agony to a normal sheep like myself. However the videos are bangin

  • @GoodGirlPeruru
    @GoodGirlPeruru ปีที่แล้ว +803

    This is *definitely* not the same Hausmaster. It’s actually creepy how different this sounds. It’s so… corporate and stilted and wrong. I’ve been skeptical of the many times people have said Haus has been replaced but I also wasn’t there for them personally. But *This* one is no joke

    • @GoodGirlPeruru
      @GoodGirlPeruru ปีที่แล้ว +92

      @@ilovehouses I didn’t hear of any confirmation myself, all I heard was the vague idea that he did a long time ago and I was skeptical of it then. If it’s been confirmed then my bad lol

    • @nicocchi
      @nicocchi ปีที่แล้ว +169

      You'd say it's corporate if it was actually professional. This just reads like someone actually throwing a tantrum that people aren't universally licking their boots

    • @louzo5175
      @louzo5175 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ilovehouses its important to confirm theories like that, but the last time it happend we didnt get a conformation either.... sus

    • @sjs9698
      @sjs9698 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@nicocchi yeah it sounds like someone hugely lacking in self-awareness trying to sound professional and failing.

    • @blib3786
      @blib3786 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      The OG Hause left almost 10 years ago lol, it's been a different guy (or guys) running it ever since. The name Hausemaster is basically just a title for the server owner now, not an actual person.

  • @tails183
    @tails183 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Man oh man, can I not wait to see what people do to completely crash or ruin the server in its entirety. Like, sure the place has had lag machine and chunk bans before, but now almost any and everyone with the power to do these things will no longer be restrained by their love or respect for the server.

  • @naotohex
    @naotohex ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Expected a back peddle. Instead they doubled down. That takes some REAL stupidity.

  • @Clbull118
    @Clbull118 ปีที่แล้ว +1134

    4:11 "But I'll let Fit talk about that."
    Please tell me he's gonna take an orbital dump on Hausemaster for this dumb-as-heck update.

    • @bananenpflanzer6516
      @bananenpflanzer6516 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Wanted to write that exact comment lol

    • @Salzt
      @Salzt ปีที่แล้ว +248

      fit probably needs to change his intro, this server isnt anarchy anymore ☕

    • @C___________
      @C___________ ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I'm sure we'll get a video from Fit in a few days.

    • @saturn5mtw567
      @saturn5mtw567 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Yeah, im not exactly fitmc's biggest fan, but thats gonna be hilarious, cant wait!

    • @Yoda_Gaming1738
      @Yoda_Gaming1738 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      @reapiu8316 fit already streams just about daily on an smp server where hes been making connections to other very large minecraft youtubers. He will probably make a video explaining why hes leaving 2b2t and then direct his fans to his new smp content

  • @dakata2416
    @dakata2416 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Housemaster is the only person that can unite the entirety of 2B2T.

    • @Settings208
      @Settings208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ironically they're only uniting to call bullshit on hause and not to kiss his shoes at the new changes

  • @birdwife589
    @birdwife589 ปีที่แล้ว +2233

    thank you Sal for standing up for the player base. now we just need Fit to speak up

    • @Rodoadrenalina
      @Rodoadrenalina ปีที่แล้ว +204

      Fit its taking his sweet time, and im sure hes not gonna quit the server

    • @zaccyj7617
      @zaccyj7617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i hope he does to be honest. fit has a good thing going with other creators, and this would set a major precedent @@Rodoadrenalina

    • @cezarcatalin1406
      @cezarcatalin1406 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@Rodoadrenalina
      Not until HM “accidentally locks him out” for talking too much 🤣

    • @LowkeyHyped
      @LowkeyHyped ปีที่แล้ว +148

      @@Rodoadrenalina yeah, no clue if he will quit as he built a massive audience from it (I believe he can transition from it but is he willing to risk it) but I do think he will speak up as Sal hinted at it in this video

    • @Visionary8Ideas
      @Visionary8Ideas ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@LowkeyHyped i think its funny how his tone is while explaining everything, you can tell hes pissed but salC1 is a 2b2t youtuber hes not really known for anything else, the only reason he is famous and has almost a million subscirber is because of 2b2t, he acts like he knows whats best for the game like he has ownership over it, would you talk to your boss like this the one thats providing you all this money from this channel because at the end of the day hes the boss

  • @Pleshie
    @Pleshie ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Can't wait for hause to implement a no griefing rule any day now

    • @brebybread
      @brebybread ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Guys please stop griefing on my anarchy server im gonna have to ban you 🤓

    • @enolopanr9820
      @enolopanr9820 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This server owner, whoever he is, is gonna get his IP leaked. I mean a LOT of passion has gone into this server for so long. With all of the skilled hackers, I would be concerned pissing of the community.

    • @xAffan
      @xAffan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@enolopanr9820IP address doesn't do anything

    • @Newibe
      @Newibe ปีที่แล้ว

      Reminds me of this r/place version i saw that “allowed griefing” but had protected drawings

  • @jacobpoore9575
    @jacobpoore9575 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    i think SalC1 needs to make his own anarchy server

  • @joda1737
    @joda1737 ปีที่แล้ว +811

    My head canon: A griefer was not content with simply using hacks and exploits to annoy other players, so they started a profitable business IRL and saved money until they could buy the server from Hausemaster. With the owner out of the way, they have begun to grief the foundations of the server itself. They've deleted entire chunks, purged items, and even added rules, but their conquest will not stop there. Soon, they will grief the very concept of the server in the minds of players until it becomes "3b3t: the newest vanilla server in Minecraft".

    • @bumpygang737
      @bumpygang737 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, the feds seized the server because it was an unregulated way for terrorists and extremists to communicate including racists and they want to destroy the server without just shutting it down.

    • @partyinthecloudkingdom
      @partyinthecloudkingdom ปีที่แล้ว +83

      wouldnt be the first time the server changed hands with no notice, and the server is very lucrative

    • @SilverMontegiu
      @SilverMontegiu ปีที่แล้ว +103

      And the ultimate plot twist is that this griefer is Popbob

    • @EspressosWork
      @EspressosWork ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Cant wait for the cones of dunshire to pop up

    • @louzo5175
      @louzo5175 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SilverMontegiu would make sense bc the server wronged popbob n he is interested in its destruction in true anarchist way

  • @noobfrombrazil814
    @noobfrombrazil814 ปีที่แล้ว +1496

    Fifth Collumn's griefs look like small grenades compared to 2b2t's greatest grief, the destruction of the whole server. Congratulations, new 2b2t owner, you killed "The oldest anarchy server in minecraft.

    • @Grahdens
      @Grahdens ปีที่แล้ว +37

      not a new owner, still just housemaster

    • @hektik2074
      @hektik2074 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      @@Grahdenshe lived long enough to see himself become the villian

    • @furdiburd
      @furdiburd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@hektik2074just like google... Just like google...

    • @zonkedmc
      @zonkedmc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wahhhhh wahhhhh i'm whining about a server i don't play on wahhhh

    • @GodplayGamerZulul
      @GodplayGamerZulul ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@zonkedmc they're whining but you're literally crying, get a life bro

  • @Nyerguds
    @Nyerguds ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Very good point about the golden apples... people made gold farms to make huge stashes of these legitimately - and those are now also punished by countermeasures meant to remove dupe stashes.

    • @leflyxdvd
      @leflyxdvd ปีที่แล้ว

      so what? what you going to do with those 100 boxes with 99 stacked golden apples? just dupe them again it aint that hard... jeez... why do people have to whine about some simple bitch ass server.

  • @chris_cookies
    @chris_cookies ปีที่แล้ว +678

    Calling it now, Sal and FitMC are going to launch their own anarchy server. I could see them launching it using an old MC version, and updating every 6 or so months

    • @Ratinah98
      @Ratinah98 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      hopefuly

    • @devad08
      @devad08 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      That would be so good

    • @devad08
      @devad08 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@xpr_ well be the ogs of the server and we'll look back at these messages in 10 years I mean if yt still exists

    • @StuffandThings_
      @StuffandThings_ ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Or Vintage Story, or Minetest, or even waiting for Hytale!
      Tbh I'd love that, it would be much more interesting than standard Minecraft anarchy

    • @letcreate123
      @letcreate123 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Sal already had an anarchy server which he shut down after some time. Don't count on him opening another one anytime soon.

  • @TheAbyssalEnderling
    @TheAbyssalEnderling ปีที่แล้ว +351

    The admin accused SalC1 of throwing a tantrum when it seems more like the other way around. I like how SalC1 is keeping his word and refusing to go against his choice to leave. Good on you, SalC1, and shame on the admin.

    • @24680kong
      @24680kong ปีที่แล้ว +36

      It’s the sociopath way to argue (or the russian way to argue: blame the other person of doing exactly what you’re doing.

    • @TheAbyssalEnderling
      @TheAbyssalEnderling ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@24680kong It's still immature either way. I think 2b2t is well on its way out. I'm waiting to see if Fit makes some type of closure video, bidding farewell to the server. He has a singleplayer world he could fall back on, right? I think he toured it with RTX on.

    • @RaceBandit
      @RaceBandit ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@24680kong | I've previously heard it be called "projecting". Didn't know it was associated with sociopaths.

    • @dlp6567
      @dlp6567 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@RaceBandit"b-but r-russians bahd!!!((("

    • @carcinoGetenicist
      @carcinoGetenicist ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@24680kong "I agree with your statement and I believe that the admin of 2b2t is being unreasonable.
      BTW DID YOU KNOW THAT I HATE RUSSIA???? #IStandWithUkraine!!!!!"

  • @hereis_Tiff
    @hereis_Tiff ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I agree on certain parts with 2b2t's owner. It's quite childish to throw a tantrum over a minecraft server update, and telling your viewer base to ask for refunds. As far as anyone can tell, priority access still works as intended and as advertised, even after the 1.19 update??
    It really seems like people on 2b2t, including Salc1, think that certain aspects of the server are "off-limits" and shouldn't be altered whatsoever. Perhaps if these people used less exploits and hacks and just stuck to vanilla anarchy, then this "ridiculous" update wouldn't have had to happen in the first place.

    • @quirinoguy8665
      @quirinoguy8665 ปีที่แล้ว

      This dude right here is a prime example of a tourist. This is why gatekeeping should return lmfao, if you cannot even sympathize with the things people enjoy then people should not take your opinions seriously, in fact most 2b2t players and fandoms in general would scoff and laugh at your statement especially in a time of extreme drama like this, yes this is stupid outside of their niche community, yes this looks like an overdramstic reaction from their community but if you actually have been in a community and you've seen it get thrashed and ruined by poor corporate decisions. Get the hell out of here tourist, you and your opinions are pretty much worthless to the people who actually care, and you added nothing of value in the conversation.
      2b2t's culture is anarchy, hacking and exploiting has been around since the beginning and it is literally what is marketed as an anarchy server, implementation of such rules is literally against everything what the server's culture ever stood for and the fact that you are here blaming people for doing such things is stupid.

    • @iGante
      @iGante ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@quirinoguy8665not anymore Buddy, if you don't like it play somewhere else, get on with the times lol

    • @matiasgarciacasas558
      @matiasgarciacasas558 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@quirinoguy8665i stopped reading after "this is why gatekeeping should return". Gatekeeping is just idiots coping, it doesn't actually do anything. The server doesn't belong to you and people can do whatever they want, grow up.

  • @tdog_
    @tdog_ ปีที่แล้ว +127

    i hate how companies do things and their users hate it like chat reporting and 2bt2 update
    no matter how much the community hates it, the companies defend it

    • @korok2619
      @korok2619 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      we've got these 2 in minecraft but it's just happening everywhere, youtube regularly f*cking creators, twitter pressing the auto-destruct button, reddit killing 3rd party tools...
      Seems like the problem of huge net monopolies is showing his face to the world.

    • @hvrbros8730
      @hvrbros8730 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@korok2619 the tech industry is a staple of late-stage capitalism and it's gonna crumble soon, starting with streaming

    • @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
      @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@korok2619I just want this era of entitled narasitic idiots running our brands to end

    • @KudoRedfox
      @KudoRedfox ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hvrbros8730 I keep hearing "crumbling soon" or "Is about to fall" for years now... What is considered "soon"?

    • @mechanicer3105
      @mechanicer3105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@KudoRedfoxconsider that jesus was supposed to come back to earth soon 😢

  • @Kall_Me_Koro
    @Kall_Me_Koro ปีที่แล้ว +691

    Hause trying to do as much damage control as possible and still trying to defend his position, ouch

    • @rRadixerus
      @rRadixerus ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Hause? You think Hause is still with us?

    • @SnrubSource
      @SnrubSource ปีที่แล้ว +139

      hause's glowing corpse being moved around weekend at bernie's style

    • @womp47
      @womp47 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Hause doesnt even own the server anymore I'm pretty sure, this guy is just a random mf that bought it.

    • @timecubed
      @timecubed ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Hause left the server in 2014 with a message on the website stating that an anonymous friend would take over the server. We aren't quite sure if Hause is still the owner or not, or if this "friend" sold the server to someone else. It's most likely though (through a number of different sources, for example his emails went from being very polite and mainly swedish to a bit of a rude tone, which is also visible here) that Hause is not the one controlling the server. The most likely option is that whoever took over the server either sold it to some big company or some other person or they're still controlling it themselves.

    • @xcaedes
      @xcaedes ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hause is no longer a part of 2b2t

  • @monstersponge9096
    @monstersponge9096 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Word is Hause has been unemployed for multiple years because he makes enough money from priority queue purchases to live off of, no wonder he reacted so fast.

    • @kasuraga
      @kasuraga ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hause isnt running 2b2t anymore. New owners

    • @cara-seyun
      @cara-seyun ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kasuragasame account

  • @GoodGirlPeruru
    @GoodGirlPeruru ปีที่แล้ว +262

    A lot of people are presenting the solution as “just make another server”. That isn’t the solution. This server is a piece of history and it deserves life and it deserves better, and it’s home for a lot of people. Maybe not you or me, but people like Sal.
    The solution is that people who play the server and people who know how to do things will probably hack, grief and cheat their way to control, until he reverts the changes, sells off to someone who cares again, or even ousting him entirely if they somehow find the power.

    • @gandalf_thegrey
      @gandalf_thegrey ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Meanwhile in basements around the world:
      Where is the fcking backdoor if you need it?!

    • @Aquatarkus96
      @Aquatarkus96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or, how about accepting the impermanence of things and letting it die?

    • @dallama2616
      @dallama2616 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@Aquatarkus96"just let things die" want to save your dying mother by taking her to a hospital? just let her die, accept the impermanence of things.

    • @leflyxdvd
      @leflyxdvd ปีที่แล้ว

      thats why its called "history" some things will be gone, go cry somewhere else.

    • @RainM99
      @RainM99 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@leflyxdvdyea bro and lets say you had a wife that you were truly in love with and she passed and is now "history" would you like someone to tell you to go cry somewhere else?

  • @CoffeeDrinkerKim
    @CoffeeDrinkerKim ปีที่แล้ว +233

    Jesus, it’s crazy how clearly out of touch the server owner is.

    • @Vahalio
      @Vahalio ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Almost as if its not the same owner anymore, and more like a corporation running things now.

    • @Felale
      @Felale ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vahalio
      > Product run by a single person or small number of people starts becoming wildly profitable
      > Corporate entity shows up with a bucket full of cash and offers it to small business with the plan of deploying more resources to increase revenue even more
      > Offer is too good to refuse so original small operation owner takes it and bails
      > Corporate entity is retarded and isn't able to increase profits as much as they thought through not understanding the product they now own, or having too many cooks in the kitchen with "bright" ideas
      I expect 2b2t to shut down in the not so distant future if this trend continues.

    • @womp47
      @womp47 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Vahalio not a corporation, but youre right about it not being the same guy

    • @Cavitt
      @Cavitt ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Vahalioif it was still Hause, he would’ve come out and said something about feeling pressured to make these changes due to the new EULA or whatever. It’s definitely not him, especially judging by the language used in the emails.

    • @Xtian6201
      @Xtian6201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s an imposter!!!

  • @baitornot4697
    @baitornot4697 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hausemaster really just woke up one day feeling cartoonishly villainous

  • @Levi___Ramirez
    @Levi___Ramirez ปีที่แล้ว +52

    "You are being childish for telling people to get refunds!" they say in a mulit-bullet point, longform email asking why you don't wanna play on there Minecraft server.
    That literally sounds like schooldays drama for some middleschoolers.

  • @MutantDestroyer
    @MutantDestroyer ปีที่แล้ว +46

    in the end, the actual most famous griefer on 2b2t was housemaster all along, waiting 13 years to singe-handedly destroy the server

  • @20ThomasQ
    @20ThomasQ ปีที่แล้ว +15

    2b2t is saved! WE DID IT!
    Hausemaster actually changed the game back to 1.12 and he will update to 1.19, but WITHOUT CHUNK TRIMMING AND THE ECONOMY RESET!

    • @DROGOC0P
      @DROGOC0P ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WE DID IT REDDIT!

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Curious that Hause would claim to be "the same server owner as always" because at least two people control that account. The original server owner and an "anonymous friend" that took over later. But given the name "2 Builders 2 Tools" Hause has probably always been two people.
    Also, Hause materially lies in his email because 2b2t is definitely not "more anarchy" now given Hause's rules have been formalized.

    • @spykillergames8402
      @spykillergames8402 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait hause`s acc was controlled by two people? do we have proof to this claim? because now i think i have a THEORY.....if thats true then maybe the "anonymous friend" wants out but OG hause doesnt think closing is the right thing..so maybe 2b will be sold off

    • @_melodrama
      @_melodrama ปีที่แล้ว +3

      there's og hause who ran the server originally, georgebush420 the "anonymous friend" who took over from og hause in 2014, and then at some point from then to now georgebush420 sold the server to new ownership.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @spykillergames8402 it's a bunch of server history. First, all of the players suspected of being Hause played together at some point. Second, Hause said so in a Reddit post that old Hause was gone years ago.

    • @leflyxdvd
      @leflyxdvd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spykillergames8402 its been sold, this aint haus no more, thats why changes are happening. Its like a soft reboot. The server stood for x amount of years now they are going again.

  • @KyouheiKaizo
    @KyouheiKaizo ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Now we await Fit's response, and whether it's positive or negative will either cause to 2b2t to die or reduce in numbers even further.

    • @korok2619
      @korok2619 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      lol positive, let's wait tomorrow and see if the sun is blue or yellow too

    • @leflyxdvd
      @leflyxdvd ปีที่แล้ว

      thats nice easy join then? i for one like this so we can make a new mark, and lets by gones be by gones.

  • @Jello_Criminal
    @Jello_Criminal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Grown man tears up over child's game and how an OWNER runs his business.

    • @DaMaximoff
      @DaMaximoff 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      owner tears up seeing how they want refund after he took bad business decisions

  • @yoshkabosh7979
    @yoshkabosh7979 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I love how he mentions the server being "vanilla", despite the fact that 2b2t's hacking and exploits are almost integral to many aspects of it

  • @afuturehobo
    @afuturehobo ปีที่แล้ว +597

    These words just ring hollow to me. I don't believe a word this "owner" is saying, because like you said, they can just change what they want to do with this server on a whim without any consideration for the history of this server being anarchy. If they want to run a server like this, create a new one. Don't change the old one just because you can.

    • @SuperDestroyerFox
      @SuperDestroyerFox ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They only changed it because 2b2t already has a lot of players and a very old world.

    • @afuturehobo
      @afuturehobo ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@SuperDestroyerFox what good is the old world and a lot of players if you change all this stuff about the server? Kinda backfired on them, and rightfully so.

    • @randomstuff508
      @randomstuff508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or they can just not make rules and do what they want. Because the admin doesn't have rules himself.

    • @SuperDestroyerFox
      @SuperDestroyerFox ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@afuturehobo Many like the novelty on playing on such an unstable world.

    • @smashfanx7560
      @smashfanx7560 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SuperDestroyerFox whats the point of doing it in a server with a very old world if your gonna delete old parts of that world?

  • @HipBeeWitch
    @HipBeeWitch ปีที่แล้ว +20

    God... if only I had a large enough audience like you to warn players about certain communities too ):

  • @Phantom-ws2hj
    @Phantom-ws2hj ปีที่แล้ว +184

    this feels like 2b2t trying to become more "kid friendly"

    • @carscientist
      @carscientist ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Minecraft is for 10 year olds and 10 year olds only, I thought that point was made clear with 1.19.84.

    • @iluvpandas2755
      @iluvpandas2755 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Microsoft probably forced 2b2t to be like this

    • @alexanderraz.
      @alexanderraz. ปีที่แล้ว +20

      probably the eula changes forced them to do that

    • @APunishedManNamed2
      @APunishedManNamed2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexanderraz. a real anarchy server would have just went cracked lol
      people are realizing 2b2t is for tards

    • @lucasjones6295
      @lucasjones6295 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the new versions are just that much more demanding, but I still agree some of these changes were too far and his response of no refunds is even worse

  • @eb3yr
    @eb3yr ปีที่แล้ว +310

    The thing about player obfuscation is that Mojang very easily could've written the server code in a way that hides that information from other players, yet didn't. So the argument that "Mojang didn't intend for it to be visible" kinda falls apart because we really don't know if that was the case.

    • @isawthesun
      @isawthesun ปีที่แล้ว +29

      No major server is running on the official Mojang build ever since custom ones were released

    • @valletas
      @valletas ปีที่แล้ว +60

      I feel like mojang just doesnt give a shit about their multiplayer and never did really
      They only intended people to play with their friends in a vanilla world and never thought about those massive survival and minigame servers with hundreds of thousands of players to be a thing

    • @lucasjones6295
      @lucasjones6295 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Microsoft Doesn't care they still make the servers run predominantly single threaded versus using the power of modern computing! if minecraft just had a version of the game designed to improve servers I would be happy while the vast majority would be disapointed

    • @MobiAussie
      @MobiAussie ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If Mojang cared about multiplayer pvp, nameplates wouldn't be visible through 50 layers of blocks.

    • @arcanealchemist3190
      @arcanealchemist3190 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      as others have said, mojang's priorities for multi-player are very different from that of a large server.
      mojang wants people to be playing multiplayer, but probably in groups of around 10-25 at most, with people who already know eachother in some way. and their priority is a smooth vanilla experience at that size. in a group that small, a lot of the security can be pushed aside. because if someone is cheating, they can be easily banned when discovered, and these events would be seldom heard of and probably not repeated.
      in a sense, player obfuscation already exists in the vanilla game. yes, that data is given to your computer, but its not given to the player. because of this, we can be certain that mojang never intended us to have that information.
      that said, the whole point of an anarchy server is that there are no rules, no moderation, no extra steps taken like proper, server side player obfuscation. it goes against the concept of the server, even if it is in the spirit of what mojang intends.

  • @iiiiii7680
    @iiiiii7680 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yall, it's time to just delete this server out of your server list, forget about it, and move on.

    • @NicoTheCinderace
      @NicoTheCinderace ปีที่แล้ว

      Not anymore, because it's rolling back.

  • @pphrph
    @pphrph ปีที่แล้ว +38

    this has to be the quickest downfall of an extremely old minecraft server i have ever seen

  • @thisguy.-.
    @thisguy.-. ปีที่แล้ว +227

    I wonder what went about Hausemaster to think as such the way he does. Even now he is but an enigma in the eyes of even the most knowledgeable members of the server.

    • @hamburgerhamburgerv2
      @hamburgerhamburgerv2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Can’t we take the first 250k from spawn of the server and then generate the rest and run _that?_

    • @FourtyFifth
      @FourtyFifth ปีที่แล้ว +141

      He's clearly not the same guy anymore, server probably got sold.

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I don't think Hause is involved much, if at all, anymore. I don't think he would allow this to happen, he created the server with anarchy in mind, why would he change now?

    • @Youcican
      @Youcican ปีที่แล้ว +35

      It's not the Swedish guy anymore. It's an American

    • @Filipex13
      @Filipex13 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      ​@@FourtyFifthyes idk why so many people are saying that its hausemaster fault but it is 100% other person running the server

  • @finsflexin
    @finsflexin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude, just because you don’t like one thing doesn’t mean you have to hate everything. Some things you just shouldn’t care about, and your polarizing your audience as well.

    • @z2finity
      @z2finity ปีที่แล้ว

      2b bad

    • @finsflexin
      @finsflexin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@z2finity 😡😡😡😡😡😡

  • @42carlos
    @42carlos ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I can't believe how cartoonishly evil the owner sounded in that first email. I thought it was fake lol

    • @Yassine-W
      @Yassine-W 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hause left in 2014

    • @42carlos
      @42carlos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yassine-W thanks for sharing

    • @Yassine-W
      @Yassine-W 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@42carlos the owner you're referring to is the new hause, believed to be the 3rd Hause

    • @42carlos
      @42carlos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yassine-W thanks for sharing again

  • @hakrsakr
    @hakrsakr ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The removal of greentext is the most telling for me. They're trying to distance themselves from their past. And with Microsoft removing freedom of speech in vanilla minecraft, this really is the end of an era for our sandbox game.

    • @manachromeYT
      @manachromeYT ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Minecraft is panicking that there monthly active user base has gone from 160 million to only 110 million and now dropping faster than ever

  • @UNhaN_hgag
    @UNhaN_hgag ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This update is like making an update to bedwards where you don't destroy beds anymore

  • @danfurtado9158
    @danfurtado9158 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I feel bad for you 2b2t vets. I played a shitty mmo for about 10 years with sub 3k players.
    I loved that game the playerbase even if it was abandoned for six years of my playtime. I had jobs and social responsibility but if i was home alone with nothing going on i was in the mix.
    This server became legendary for what it was, sad to see i rarely play mc solo or multiplayer but i watch you guys for entertainment

    • @null_wizard
      @null_wizard ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you play wurm too?

  • @tenej6992
    @tenej6992 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    He's upset people aren't paying anymore. That's what happens when you are disconnected from the playerbase and don't give a f***. It's so sad this is way too common.

  • @marxo119
    @marxo119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Either you die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain.

  • @Hipposgrumm
    @Hipposgrumm ปีที่แล้ว +609

    Totems aren't as huge problem as you might originally think, because now we can create raid farms and those are 100% vanilla and would be allowed.

    • @frodo4503
      @frodo4503 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      True, tho ppl will find new dupes within month (if server didn't collapse with everyone quitting). And dupe is 'farm' for everything obtained beforehand. The point is not about grinding/farming/duping items but item deletion by owners. Duped or grinded everything was wiped. That's the problem you can't guarantee it won't happen again.

    • @Mere-Lachaiselongue
      @Mere-Lachaiselongue ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Then this new company who owns 2b2t would just "iTs uNfaIr tO nEwEr PlAyErS" and ban hack clients.

    • @flamingbird101
      @flamingbird101 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As someone who has LARPed as being a totem on 2b2t, I 100% agree. I'm definitely not biased.

    • @O5MO
      @O5MO ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Totems arent a problem, even gapples arent that big of a problem since with new update, new dupes arise. The problem is that resources that you obtained, legitemately or not are simply being taken away from you, and requires you to dupe or build farms to take them back. Projects on 2b2t often require millions of resources and it would take a long time to get them back.

    • @Nerderkips
      @Nerderkips ปีที่แล้ว +7

      its a problem because the point of the server is not resetting

  • @zaccyj7617
    @zaccyj7617 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    never expeced haus to respond like that. absolutely tragic to see this entire situation play out and I am very keen for what fit will say about it

    • @womp47
      @womp47 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      its not even hause, pretty sure he sold the server a while ago so its just a random guy now (apparently popbob idfk)

    • @Lucasifylol
      @Lucasifylol ปีที่แล้ว +5

      its not hause lol

    • @iridiumnight42
      @iridiumnight42 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Hause wouldnt have responded like that nor would he have made these awful changes. The server was sold and the staff team is imitating him.

    • @ReatyFN
      @ReatyFN ปีที่แล้ว

      @@womp47 i can asure you, it is not popbob.

  • @friedrichwagner8716
    @friedrichwagner8716 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From "the owners" writing-style, you can see that he is a corporate-snake, not our homie with a server.

  • @StereoMadnessss
    @StereoMadnessss ปีที่แล้ว +378

    I could have never expected this and I hope that Hause has learned his lesson from this experience.

    • @Dankos256
      @Dankos256 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      "learned a lesson"? You mean this server is run by an unaging 5 year old who simply didn't have a chance in his life to learn that breaking promises and betreaying other peoples trust is a bad thing?

    • @mr.sprinter3584
      @mr.sprinter3584 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@Dankos256 chill out man. Don't make yourself look like a 5 year old too by making a temper tantrum on somebody's random comment. Just saying.

    • @9wowable
      @9wowable ปีที่แล้ว +80

      I think this is by far the strongest evidence to show that this isn’t “Hause”

    • @OptiPopulus
      @OptiPopulus ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They never learn. It's just like game companies/developement studios. Even social media platforms like Reddit doesn't immune to nearly ending their own product due to blatant ignorance of what people who use the product actually want.

    • @boldCactuslad
      @boldCactuslad ปีที่แล้ว +16

      you are acting as if this wasn't the 3rd/4th admin. 2 is obvious, 3 has good evidence. imo four is just a silly claim that it got sold to some company and they're trying to bring in new players, hence the update/wipe/chunks. but i guess we will see

  • @Megamon0001
    @Megamon0001 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    2B2T became so anarchy even the staff started griefing the physical server

  • @BakedPotatoYT1
    @BakedPotatoYT1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice, the server's not an anarchy server anymore. It's so fun having large stashes of your items get suddenly removed because the admin says so. They're now deciding to turn their old players against themselves for the sake of welcoming newer players, which is not bad, but don't turn around on your current playerbase.

  • @therealthirst8099
    @therealthirst8099 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    These changes are the definition of "If it isn't broke, don't fix it"

  • @stalpo7335
    @stalpo7335 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Woo! my vid is included!
    Thank you Sal for giving a lot of the previously active community a voice. I just want to say that many people are doubtful that the refunds will lead to anything being changed but stats show that 2b2t is losing a lot of its profitability because of this update.
    Also my refund got denied even though I bought prio the day before the update :)

    • @colejosephalexanderkashay683
      @colejosephalexanderkashay683 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Charge back time!

    • @stalpo7335
      @stalpo7335 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@colejosephalexanderkashay683 I dont wanna get priobanned so ill pass. Im just gonna wait till my prio ends and switch to using proxies. If shit gets turned around ill start paying prio to let them know they fixed it.

  • @goldengamer6474
    @goldengamer6474 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The thing that gets me about Hausemaster's response is the sheer lack of respect he had in it towards you, you gave solid reasoning to what he did wrong, never insulting him in any way, but he still acts like this? It's really obvious that this Hausemaster isn't the original Hause, whoever or whatever is behind it obviously hasn't a single clue on what keeps this serving run alive and well, and while I don't play on it and never plan on doing so, I feel bad for all that people that did, and that respected the server. The betrayal you and everyone else must feel has to be a lot, and I am sorry this happened to you, but I agree, 2b2t, (and especially Hausemaster) doesn't deserve the attention and promotion you bring to it, so I am glad you have decided to not make videos on it anymore. No matter where you decide to go next, or what you decide to do, we will stick with you Sal!

  • @0salum0
    @0salum0 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "It is very childish to tell your viewers to stop funding something they no longer support"

  • @PRAIRIEGH0ST
    @PRAIRIEGH0ST ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Sal is completely right, it's a probably fatal breach in the trust between players and server administration that is one of the driving dynamics--lack of admin intervention--that made 2b2t what it was. The server owner either doesn't understand the importance of that trust relationship that has until now preserved the nature of 2b2t, doesn't care, or even worse, holds the player base in contempt. The rewording to "survival" and the personal attacks in the email seem like someone who is at least capable of changing 2b2t to better benefit them at the expense of the server's integrity and its player base.

    • @jerryplayz101
      @jerryplayz101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you've been keeping up with other news in the past year regarding Minecraft, you might have seen the scandal around chat reporting and now the addition of two new methods of reporting, @SalC1. I bet Mojang / Microsoft approached House regarding some breach in the new EULA / Commercial Terms of Service and sorta blackmailed him into it. If you think about it, 1.19 is the Chat Reporting update, and Im sure some Karens made a case for this forced update. Further, when you talk about 'server integrity', are you talking about the various threats to its data's integrity (i.e. world data) or just integrity in the reputation sense? Because many of the changes I saw can be justified by considering the scale of 2b2t and the complexity on which it operates. It makes no sense for example to store chunks that no one has built anything into or done anything with. Its useless space.
      Similarly, regarding soft item reset, it certainly appears that it was in response to duplication and to fix NBT data - as some of those items have been rebuilt in terms of their NBT. I can understand the need to remove illegitimate items (as that is not 'intended functionality' on the part of either 2b2t or Minecraft as a game. To complain about that or the consequences would be like saying that a 'bug' is a feature when Mojang has done everything they can to remove the bug. The player's don't control this game (unfortunately). This goes as well for items with invalid NBT tags.
      Regarding more mundane exploits like Player visibility through walls and the such, as House points out, it is not intended behaviour. Usage of it is quite clearly an exploit, and even on an 'anarchy' server, it is anarchy within the framework of the game's ability. To go beyond is nothing short of a violation of service.
      As stated by Google's definitions, is' This is quite clearly not the that people seem to think that it means. In terms of a server, this could mean the , but that doesn't allow one to exploit the very nature of the game and say that such exploit's dis-allowal by a moderation team is unjust. Its rules and restrictions imposed by the very nature of the game, not the mods.

  • @thetky_clan666
    @thetky_clan666 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Owner of 2b2t: *(MAKES UPDATE EVERYONE HATES)*
    Also owner of 2b2t: "Y'all are h8ers, true loyals never leave."
    The True Loyals: "We don't like it & we're leaving."
    Owner of 2b2t: 😮

    • @Darthiusss
      @Darthiusss ปีที่แล้ว

      he dont care bro, he have money of suck people with hacks

  • @snowscapeddreams6300
    @snowscapeddreams6300 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I feel like a bunch of people in power of popular servers / social media platforms are just gunning for the world record for how quickly they can ruin their stuff and make their fans turn on them.

    • @Camp_Half_Blood_NYC
      @Camp_Half_Blood_NYC ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How quickly and for the dumbest idea

    • @alexlowe2054
      @alexlowe2054 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The lt;dr version is that the economy is going to crap, so everyone is rushing to make enough profit right now to survive the impending disaster, or because investors want their money back, so now these silicone valley companies have to suddenly start making a profit instead of burning investor money. Expect that it'll keep happening for the next few years, until we're in a bad enough economy that businesses just start going bankrupt instead of making bad decisions.

    • @kenos911
      @kenos911 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hause is not that powerful LOL

  • @BroMomento69
    @BroMomento69 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    no shot that was the actual response you got. for a server this old and (formerly) respected, it legitimately reads like a parody

  • @electrospaghetti8388
    @electrospaghetti8388 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hause being rude and making accusations is the final nail in the coffin, pretty much convincing everyone who wanted a refund that it was the right decision. And if that's how he treats people trying to leave, then I doubt he thinks of those that are staying much better.

  • @l3monnnnnnnnnnn
    @l3monnnnnnnnnnn ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Crazy how the server can destroy itself faster than the griefers destroying other's bases

  • @monsterguy677
    @monsterguy677 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I remember the quote “Nothing on 2b2t lasts forever” well that was certainly true now

  • @Apple_Beshy
    @Apple_Beshy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "end of 2b2t" It's still the same, the rules has been there since the beginning, and player count and queue doesn't even dip the slightest.

  • @goldenblood9316
    @goldenblood9316 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I can't wait to see what angry 2b2t hackers do to fuck over the admin after this. This is a downright declaration of war.

    • @GoodGirlPeruru
      @GoodGirlPeruru ปีที่แล้ว +42

      This is what *I’m* looking forward to seeing. People definitely aren’t gonna take this lying down, they’ll take anarchy into their *own* hands.
      Popbob comeback when?

    • @hoonfox
      @hoonfox ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FoE:PH nice

    • @raiisleep
      @raiisleep ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing. They're going to bitch and moan and the server will slowly have players replaced by small children who watch FitMC videos until it's dead in 2 years

    • @johnlime1469
      @johnlime1469 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maybe that's his plan all along. Maybe he got bored with people's inaction and wanted to start "fresh" and play the villain.
      Holy shit that's my headcanon now.

  • @GLUBSCHI
    @GLUBSCHI ปีที่แล้ว +35

    It's insane to me that after all of this the owner still wants to die on this hill

  • @rickeyrat4776
    @rickeyrat4776 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in my opinion this just further proves that the hausemaster who actually founded 2b2t sold / left the server in 2014-2015 got replaced lmao

  • @crossway18
    @crossway18 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    This either gonna be the best outcome or worst outcome

    • @Alacachoo
      @Alacachoo ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah, and I suppose the worst outcome would be a survival with cheats allowed that used to have the title of being "the oldest anarchy server in minecraft".

    • @hamburgerhamburgerv2
      @hamburgerhamburgerv2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The worst outcome would be Hausemaster being so angry that he just deletes the world and shuts down the server for good.

    • @pierrickpenard-dumont889
      @pierrickpenard-dumont889 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@hamburgerhamburgerv2 that wouldn't be the worst, it would be adding rules to an ANARCHY server

    • @Potato__Editor
      @Potato__Editor ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hamburgerhamburgerv2 No, that would simply mean the end of the oldest anarchy server. Its better to shut it down rather than destroying it entirely and adding "rules" to an anarchy server

    • @phontoid
      @phontoid ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Alacachoothe worst outcome is the earth fucking explodes from a gamma ray blast boom boom explosion you aren’t thinking broad enough

  • @Meme-pg5tw
    @Meme-pg5tw ปีที่แล้ว +61

    i think the funniest part of the email you got is the "i wish you played more on the server before making this decision" like the past 6 years of your channel didnt exist

    • @vxxiimmiv8616
      @vxxiimmiv8616 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      i was thinking he meant playing more of the update

    • @DxBlack
      @DxBlack ปีที่แล้ว +10

      But playing a gimped-anarchy wouldn't have changed anyone's mind who had a full stash of GApples and hacked weapons...this server is an objective downgrade for everyone except item sellers who now have to dupe new stores.

  • @jurylmao
    @jurylmao ปีที่แล้ว +5

    hause rolled back the 1.19 changes, removed the chunk culling and economy reset. He will update it back to 1.19, but without the changes.

  • @edwinhuang9244
    @edwinhuang9244 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    4:32 This feels like a "I'm making stealing illegal so that stealing would stop" moment.

  • @gopherasoda2492
    @gopherasoda2492 ปีที่แล้ว +572

    As a War Thunder veteran, I hope to god you guys do the right thing. Sadly the same can't be said for the redditors licking up Gaijin's slime trail

    • @lightningstrike5024
      @lightningstrike5024 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      dude wtf are you talking about, the wt player base had a massive riot about the game and gaijan is actually making good changes and listening to the community now
      its not really news

    • @gopherasoda2492
      @gopherasoda2492 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@lightningstrike5024 I know, I was part of the boycott myself. What I'm saying is that these players are like a battered house wife in an abusive relationship; and it disgusts me that they would be so quick to take an apology that clearly holds no water. Even if Gaijin is actually changing things, it is certainly just the bare minimum to appease most players; because that is how a corporation thinks/functions. To be honest, War Thunder doesn't have a future anyways due to the Dagor engine and a decade of feature creep, now it's a cash cow and that's all it's good for.

    • @re5onance244
      @re5onance244 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@gopherasoda2492expecting a work of passion from Gaijiggles of anyone, is a misplaced hope. Eventually, they will run out of modern tanks and planes, and they’ll have to fix things, but that might be years yet.

    • @катяташоу8
      @катяташоу8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@lightningstrike5024Do those changes perhaps include removing the game's abillity to launch itself whenever it wants? It was pretty annoying.

    • @lightningstrike5024
      @lightningstrike5024 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@gopherasoda2492 wdym "bare minimum" theyve fixed real shatter, increased sl multipliers as well as decreasing sl repairs, added stock fpe, parts and flares, theyre decompressing br's, nerfing spawn camping and are planning to folder more vehicles and improving rp gains
      that is already far from the "bare minimum"

  • @mind-of-neo
    @mind-of-neo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If i were paying for special privileges on a server marketed for its freedom that decided to institute a bunch of rules, soft reset the world, and update to the most controlling version in minecraft's history, i'd want to cancel that payment too.

  • @TheCollective2b2t
    @TheCollective2b2t ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Crazy shit. I think this indicates that a middle ground cannot be found for the community if they are responding like this to your video. Also doubt that he is the original hausemaster, the owner of the r/2b2t subreddit knew the original hausemaster and claims that the current owners bought the server at some point.

    • @frantisekvrana3902
      @frantisekvrana3902 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Personally, I think this is a third Hausmaster.
      First was a player on the server too, and sometimes made persona appearances there.
      Second did it just for money, probably was a group of people.
      This is the third, and they just got it. Probably it was sold to them just prior the 1.19 update.

  • @yelloari5448
    @yelloari5448 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    He calls the server anarchy when it literally has rules??? The owner needs to look up what anarchy means

  • @Blackey989
    @Blackey989 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Bro this whole situation is wild. I've never played 2b, but I can imagine how someone in this community would feel cheated.

  • @SneklySnek
    @SneklySnek ปีที่แล้ว +16

    from the changes and the owners responce, I 100% beleive that he is making the changes because he plans on selling/moving on from being the owner and let someone else take over
    like the type of changes line up with what a server owner would do for a server such as 2b2t that isn't planning on being the owner for long, and its the typical "clean up the server" type things which make it look more pleasing to the eyes of people who might be interested in purchasing the server as new prospective owners

    • @spykillergames8402
      @spykillergames8402 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thats interesting and tbh it makes sense....by doing this it makes it more palletable to any large network...

  • @DionMalimbag
    @DionMalimbag ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Its just sad that 2b2t is no longer the 2b2t we know and love. We are just witnessing a new era for 2b2t for the better or worse.
    Don't stress on it! I love watching ur videos and looking forward to the next ones!

  • @hash1650
    @hash1650 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chunk resetting makes sense. If there were random paths of old chunks you’d know exactly how to get to peoples bases just by following those chunks in game

  • @the_cat_the_cat
    @the_cat_the_cat ปีที่แล้ว +38

    2b2t went from minecraft's oldest anarchy server to being minecraft's youngest survival server 🔥🔥