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- I got a lot of hate in my last Dragon's Dogma 2 video. Enough that I think warrants talking about it and addressing the drama. So in this video I will be going over why I came to my conclusions of the game.
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Let's have a civil conversation. It's okay to like or hate this game.
Basically confirmed where you were going to get most of your confirmation from. Everyone who played the first game and enjoyed it, knew what they were getting themselves into. I can also tell you this and that every player from the first game, even if they enjoyed it, pretty much could of predicted all the hype that would get them to come back over the years, would be centered around a dlc.
Man exactly
I played the first game and really have problems with this second game. I like it but there are things I absolutely HATE about it. Doesn’t mean I won’t play but it’s just dragons dogma 1.25.
My opinion, I believe the story of the first game was written and carried out better. The main story of DD2 just falls off after leaving Vermund for Battahl, no continuation of the "Sovran" storyline. The ending and post-game/unmoored world are fantastic, but the rest of the main story seems like 5 different people worked on it and just threw stuff together without ensuring that it made sense or that the story found a logical conclusion. The combat is good, not perfect, but it was disappointing that archer/ranger no longer had its main skill from DD1 (Tenfold Flurry) and that the Mystic Knight class was completely gone. I suspect the released the main game in this way to incentivize people to buy the DLC where they possibly will remedy these issues, but who knows.
That’s the problem people didn’t play the first game so they didn’t understand the second game then starting moaning because they thought it was something it’s not . People should play the first game in any series to get a better understanding about the follow up game
Lots of people didnt even play the game at all. Just hating cause its a trend.
This is a stupid defense. You shouldn’t have to play the first game in order to like this one
I loved the first one and was super disappointed with this one
@@CaptainAugustSame! It's full of missed opportunities. I feel the game lacks in every aspect but polishing.
My first type of game like this and I really enjoy it I’ve seen elder ring as well is that any good because am unsure weather I’ll like it or not
If you aren’t researching a game before you get it nowadays that’s on you. You paid $70 based off a mostly cinematic trailer? ESPECIALLY if the game is a sequel. You could have looked at Dragon’s dogma 1 gameplay and watched reviews ahead of time. So if it wasn’t what you were expecting then again that’s on you.
Sorry for assuming the sequel improved anything on the previous game. My bad.
Both you and this game that doesn't respect my time can go to hell.
From my understanding through people who have played the original that this is not a sequel, just a remake & playing the first game is unnecessary to enjoy the second, but it is a valid argument that maybe people were expecting something different
its not necessary to play the first game to enjoy the second one, however playing the first one helps you get a grip of what you are suppoused to expect, in the end its just all about new ppl having wrong expectations bcuz they are getting introduce to the franchise for the first time which is completely understandable. Also without any spoilers i can asure you this game ITS A SEQUEL, we were wrong about the remake/reboot thing.
Im a og player so i knew from the begining what the game was all about and i can say that im having a blast.
so for anyone who hasnt played Dragon's Dogma and is thinking of getting Dragon's Dogma 2, I HIGHLY recommend playing Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen first!
Currently money is tight and hearing how this game runs on console and pc opted to get the next best thing and play Dark Arisen. its basically the Definitive packaged with its DLC and a bunch of fixes. It's also half the price of DD2
I am having the time of my life and deeply regret sleeping on this series for so long.
And considering what I've heard about Dragon's Dogma 2 in terms of story. I feel if you play the first one you'll have a better appreciation for 2.
The opposite.
all my friends who played the first said the second is a downgrade.
so you gonna ruin the experience of the second by playing the first.
DONT PLAY THE FIRST if you plan to play the second
@@SilentWhisky literally after i made this comment some friends said something similar lol but I'm still open to seeing how how I'll feel about it.
gonna be a long while before i can even play it.
but yea to reiterate to folks, Dark Arisen is just so good!
My biggest and only problem is how clunky combat is… no universal dodge/block?
Sick of seeing my character crawl on the ground waiting for a pawn to come pick me up whenever I switch off the thief class.
That sounds like a skill issue to me I hardly ever get touched.
LMAO, coulda just thought that..@@Clintdaddy412
I think the main issue with the original video (and why I gave it a dislike) is the title of the video being wrong since it has the word "fans" instead of "me" in it, since you also admit in the video to never having played Dragons Dogma (Dark Arisen).
As I haven't seen the trailers for DD2 I cannot say how they presented the game there, but it did apparently do its job and get someone who knew nothing of the series to purchase the game.
The title wasn't wrong plenty of people disliked the game. Also here on TH-cam you need to get creative with your titles or else you don't get views.
@@stillsolo Sure, plenty of people dislike everything and anything, that doesn't mean I get to say that something is true in general even if it is true in one case. BG3 was a hit even though it was a 6/10 for me, but that's just because I like BG1 and 2. So because I was disappointed in BG3 does that mean that "people who enjoyed BG1 and 2 are disappointed by 3" is a true statement? No, because clearly most people weren't.
So either you are placing yourself on a pedestal as the voice of a fandom, a fandom you are not even a part of according to your own words or you meant literal fans, which admittedly do have to work real hard due to poor optimization of DD2. I don't know fans feel about spinning so much but they can make a lot of noise so it can't be great (or it's the greatest party ever).
Now if you did do a study or polled enough people then sure, you can make the claim you made in the video title, and it might be an interesting video in its own right going through answers and percentages and reasonings, hell that's literally what the Capcom survey sort of did.
@@stillsoloso you’re fishing for views
@@cruzie8568 Nah Im just defending my position on a video game.
If the game was good enough, you would play it for more than 100 hrs, not the other way around. Didn't really get the hate you got from the other video, but that's just how it is sometimes especially for game reviews lol
Yeah I agee
I have a high hour count, and I love it, but a lot of people forget the difference between Dogma 1 and Dark Arisen and then there are people who never played either. So it's disappointing to see all the negative attention forming around this game. It's good, but it's still not quite ready for mainstream adoption. I'd prefer it not to cater to the mainstream because that's part of the charm. The NPC interactions do need more work, but at the same time, I don't think it needs it. The game is more about combat than story.
I appreciate the Witcher music in the background haha
I think it's great in a lot of ways, and leaves room for improvement. I'm having a blast -- 60 hours in. I'm definitely feeling the fatigue from some of the issues people are pointing out. But overall. It's been really cool.
Thief just needs another hook rope to ride the monsters like dune worms. We're so close capcom. Make it happen.
There were certainly aspects of this game i felt were a bit too superficial, like the leveling system not having much in the way of commitment, the story, dialogue ect. Im having a ton of fun though running around and exploring stuff, and a lot of others are too. Your opinion shouldn't be that controversial though.
DD1 was the first video game I ever played, and I loved it.
12 years later, DD2 comes out and my disappointment is immeasurable. Not only that there were no improvements made to the combat system, storyline, mechanics etc. It also takes a big step back by trading Arcady movement for a very poorly implemented momentum system.
I still have over 150 hours in the game, and I hate that casuals are defending this unfinished mess that Capcom released without even playing it enough. These kinda people are why publishers think it’s OK to release unfinished games without having innovated at all on the original formula.
The combat system was great when the first game came out in 2012. ARPGs generally had crappy combat back then. KOA and DD were a couple of underappreciated standouts. Action combat has come a long way since 2012. Except that DD2 decided to stay in 2012 without innovating or adding any shred of complexity to the combat system.
Basic attacks + 4 skills?? That’s a baby tier simplistic combat system. How about giving the player a different set of attacks when they alternate between lights and heavies, or pausing between inputs? Having just 4 skills and no combat depth makes the combat get old very fast, especially when we have to fight every 10 seconds while traveling.
Most skills should’ve been in the vocation’s core instead of being a mappable skill. For example, a fighter’s vengeance slash or any riposte attack should’ve been executed automatically after a perfectly timed deflect. Attacking with your guard up should’ve resulted in a different set of attacks. A warriors shoulder bash should changed his charge times in some way or chained into a different attack. A thief should’ve had concussive leap executed when player attempts to jump while mid-air. every vocation could’ve been improved by adding some level of combat depth instead of just making a simplistic system for the mentally challenged.
These are the same people who created amazingly deep and complex combat systems like DMC and Monster Hunter.
The game deserved a lot more love than what Capcom gave it.
I don’t even want to talk about how crappy the game performs without ruining my day.
I liked dragons dogma 2, but honestly I liked the first one more than I did the 2nd... Mainly due to the characters and areas were more interesting in my opinion.. Like aelinore and the witch woods deal was interesting. I did think it was interesting seeing the castle from the first game back in the 2nd one :) Which I won't spoil where. I just feel like the 2nd one was a down graded with story and characters compared to the first one. The combat is better in the 2nd one :)
Not having played the first one is fine. I know someone who didn't like the first game played this one and put it down after like 30 minutes haha. Your opinion while I don't agree with it is completely valid. To be honest I like Dragon's Dogma 1 better than this one. I feel the music is part of the reason, along with the same enemy type groupings and no hard mode. I'm on my third playthrough of the game and everything dies the moment I look at them. My pawns just melt everything drakes go down in less than 2 minutes. I would use mods but I'm not very clear on how that affects the pawn being banned or semi banned.
Imma tldr this shit, Solo exptected it to be witcher mixed with BG3
Instead Dragons Dogma 2 is just what we wanted from Dragons Dogma 1
How did you feel like it was like BG3?
Also, no offense meant, but it absolutely wouldn't have been chasing likes to say DD2 is good. Even if hating on it wasn't the trend, just in general we know that hate gets more clicks. sad, but still true aye.
The game is great.
It’s looks like the same exact game, except your only allowed one character. Idk did they change that? Regardless just thinking it was acceptable to do that is gross. But they didn’t even change the paint, it’s the same exact screen from the first one as I remember. The combat is the same, nothing looks like it progressed in any way. So I gta agree with the dude who said it was DD 1.25
Love this game to death, but I know that this game is not for everybody. Do you love Devil May Cry combat? This game is for you. If you expect anything else, this is not for you.
I loved this game without really having experience with the first on I can definitely understand this game is it's own compared to others. But is awesome n holds its own
You could have bought Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen and seen exactly what DD2 would be like. What is wrong with DD2 is it feels like the hollow shell of DD:DA.
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If you are going to hate a game hate it for good reasons. Like DD2 is a dumbed down version of the first game. It removed and simplifed a lot of mechanics and armor slots are now top and bottom. We want sexy lingerie and corsets lol not outfits that cover the entire body.
If a game is bad i'll return it before the 2 hour window steam gives me. I have filtered thousands of titles that way and guess what? It works real well. Only a fool will sink a hundred hours into a game to figure out if they like it. I bet they eat the same ice cream for 3 years before deciding they hate the flavor too.
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You can miss lots of really good games if you play only for 2 hours.
Also, fanboys using the "you need to play the game for more than xxx hours for it to become good" is also supid af. But thats what Starfield fanboys used as a defense against all the Starfield hate.
I just don’t like the outfits it’s like the creators forgot their is man an their is women almost every costume is a fucking gown/dress
You hate the game? Let me guess you like souls like games lol
You thought this would be like the Witcher? Thankfully it is not. The witcher series has always been a female fantasy game. How many women would want a strong handsome sexual active man that is sterile? This is why women like geralt and why I do not.
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