I’m having some issues with people that I am first and second cousins too and wanted to know is it possible for a half Aunt to be showing up as a cousin?
I’ve been researching for 45+ years and still don’t have answers to one of my original questions. I did, however, find answers to questions that I didn’t know I should have had.😊. I hope that you will find all of your answers very soon.
I have found ThruLines to be a very good tool in finding how I am related to certain people. However, it makes a lot of mistakes in its predictions. It will assume that similar named people are the same person, when they really aren't. It will often match to an ancestor, but not their spouse. I have to do a lot of research in order to verify the match. I use census, baptismal, marriage, military and other records to help me. Online obituaries are especially important to confirm more recent relatives. It helps that I have over 16,000 names in my database that I can use to link to these people. Whenever I confirm the relationship of newly discovered relatives, I add them to my database. When it comes to obituaries, I can often add a dozen or more names - which in turn allows me to have more possible connections to relatives I discover in the future.
Devon's video about ThruLines does discuss the question of accuracy. Ancestry ThruLines: How Accurate Are They? th-cam.com/video/9PTFo4yh5TA/w-d-xo.html
Thru lines are useful most of the times. But like you said the predictions are iffy at times. It had a distant cousin as descending from a child who died young. Crazy.
Yes those tools provide good leads. I have found many of the predicted common ancestors on Ancestry to be highly suspicious though and are often based on one or two giant family trees that lots of people pulled wrong information from. Be skeptical and verify thoroughly.
You, too, eh? I have a 3rd cousin that matches me in the 5th-8th cousin range, at only 9 cM. I match one of his sisters at 48 cM and the other sister at 97 cM. I can't remember exactly what Ancestry's predictions were for the two sisters because I already set them as 3rd cousins, but I do remember that this sibling group was put into three different relationship levels.
Statistically, the typical range for a 1C3R relationship is very wide, around 30 - 215cM. For fourth cousins and beyond, the expected range is around 0 - 75cM. Because the ranges overlap, then the situation you describe will of course occur from time to time.
@@suzannemcclendon The expected range for a third cousin is around 0 - 109cM. All three of the numbers you quote fall within that range, and are therefore of course not in any way abnormal.
@@nickmiller76 Thank you for your comment, Nick. I know that the numbers for each of them fall well within the normal range. That isn't the issue so much as it just seemed weird for there to be such a wide range within a full sibling group. If you go strictly by the cMs and the relationship predictions that Ancestry gave me at the time, coupled with not knowing how these matches were related to me, or to each other, as it was at first in this case, it was just an added complication that I had to try to work through. Thankfully, I had help. I have since learned who my bio father is, and who those matches were, to me and to each other. And, I have also learned along the way that, in the great DNA toss, some siblings just do not grab as many segments from a particular ancestor as the other siblings do. In some cases, they are completely hiding behind the door as the Skittles are being tossed. :) Have a blessed weekend.
Okay, but sometimes you'll be related to someone in more than one way. I've become aware of these relationships through Ancestry Thrulines. They really are eye-popping. I have one DNA Match where we're related through six (6) different paths.
Is there a way to link matches to the ethnicity estimate? The estimate suggests I am 25% Scottish and I would like to see which of my matches also have Scottish ethnicity.
What would you suggest (or maybe you already have video for it) when you've done the Leeds method of sorting, so you know which line a match is from, but when you build out the trees of those matches there are no common ancestors and a lot of times not even a common place?
This is usually an indication of someone is incorrect in either your tree or their tree (assuming that you have 2nd and 3rd cousins in the Leeds chart). You are talking about 4-8 people in your chart and 4-8 people in their chart. Just one of them being wrong in the right spot and you have no matching tree
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics This is multiple matches on the same line (Bowmans), but no common ancestor among any of them (over 20 matches built out so far). We can't all be wrong. My mother (her DNA) has over 80 matches to confirmed Bowman descendants, but when trying to find out a Bowman 2x great-grandmother (unknown) or her (2x's) mother-in-law (only a first name known) I'm not getting any MRCAs, not even a name that keeps popping up. No common places either other than states/provinces. At this point I'm ready to tear my hair out out of frustration and give up on the whole thing.
This info is very true. In today's world, where the idea of "work" and "research" flies in the face of the prevailing "copy-and-paste" mentality, I can see where many people will never understand actual relationships. And with so many who test not wanting to post a family tree, it becomes very difficult for someone looking into their matches to gain any insight into relationships. People also need to remember that having the same sequence of base pairs over 30 or 40 centimorgans on a single chromosome does not automatically mean they share a common ancestor.
Can someone help me determine how I am related to someone with a long segment> I believe it may be through a 1/2 cousin's child. Please take a crack at this reading. Shared DNA: 205 cM across 6 segments Unweighted shared DNA: 205 cM Longest segment: 114 cM
I have a DNA cousin that is estimated to be my 3-4th cousin. His Mom is showing up as a 12th cousin on my tree. Is it possible that he is related to me on both sides of my family?
Absolutely, especially if your mom and dad's ancestry is similar. There is a tool on GEDmatch that tells you if your parents are related in recent ancestry (5-6th generations back). th-cam.com/video/pvZQN-OA9Gw/w-d-xo.html I don't think that would help much but it's worth trying to see if your parents have common ancestors within those generations. Additionally, you'll also want to build your family tree using DNA matches and genealogical records and be on the look out for tree collapse or endogamy th-cam.com/video/Wlq_a-gdf9k/w-d-xo.html
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics A direct ancestor J.R. married M.L After she died, J.R. married M.L.'s niece, M,L.'s daughter married a slightly more distant cousin, Now, J.R. could absolutely marry M.L.'s niece, but their children were half siblings and cousins at the same time. The family is well documented. I haven't yet done a DNA test because of these convolutions. Following the paper trail has the pitfall of not catching hidden illegitimacy, which apparently happens sometimes. Must pluck up the courage and try the DNA route sometime. DNA matches would certainly bring up Endogamy, probably mysterious not knowing the anecdotal information. But never first cousins marrying, that would be disastrous.
I have had answers to several questions in my family simply by several members in my close group. I took the test along with several nephews and nieces and my son .My sister is a full sibling to me as her daughter is a full niece and my two brothers are half siblings to us as their children and grandchildren are half . I established that my nieces father was the one stated as she has many relatives in his family.My third closest match is a stranger to the entire family. Lol. One of my brothers has a son he isn't claiming so since the mystery match has too much DNA to be son of the half brothers but I have one more brother so he must be a full sibling and the father of mystery match. So two questions asked that were answered. No the claim to part native Americans was not shown
I'm sure there's a video somewhere but I can't find it. So my question. I finally have a match with my last name. Problem is her father was adopted. Both our trees traced back to 1800, neither share even a single place, two different provinces, ON and NB. But shes a 55cM match (60 unweighted), over 2 segments highest one 50. Also she's one generation below me. Are those pretty reliable to believe there's a link somewhere? She is the highest match in that cluster at 4c.
How do I have DNA matches who are supposedly my 4th-5th cousins who don’t share the same ethnicity percentage with me like we have 0% ethnicity in common yet they have 1% DNA as me
OMG Just when I thought it couldn't get any harder IT HAS!!! I am still looking for mother and father of my husbands mum who was fostered in Cork, Ireland in 1922 age 4. She has since passed away but we are still looking. The only truly genuine piece of paper with details on, is this paper which is of Foster Certificate. We have no other name or names apart from hers. No Birth Certificate etc etc. How would I track down who they are please. My husband has done his DNA. There are cousins etc but, we do not know how we would find her parents names and if any family left. Any help would be gratefully appreciated 😊🥴
Why does your DNA on Ancestry change so much does it mean it actually accurate or is it because someone related to you did a DNA test and it changes the percentage?
Since you're mentioning percentages... I'm assuming you mean ethnicity results not DNA matching. DNA matches don't have much change in how much DNA they share with you. They may disappear from your results list if you or they decide to hide their DNA test kit. As far as ethnicity results, there are so many things to explain, so I have a playlist all about this topic. Check it out. th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdlvwsLScE4NPKwGA-XUNhhM.html
Hello I have a cousin that was approach by a young lady trying to find her dad. She said she took ancestry test and my auntie name appear on the paper work. So my question is would this mean that my cousin can be the dad of her or it just mean she related some how
As a half Cajun/Acadian, i have FAR more matched on mom’s Cajun side of the family. I just assumed the dna keeps showing up because we’re all so inbred
Or, your mom's side has more people interest in DNA testing. Or your dad's side has fewer people who could take a DNA test. I made a video about the problem of small families a while ago. Check it out. th-cam.com/video/pJDjHg13QgI/w-d-xo.html
My aunt gave a girl up for adoption in the 1960s and we were never told who her father was before my aunt died in 1984. My aunt knew who it was but never told anyone. I got connected with this cousin on Ancestry and I was born in 1988 after my aunt passed but I was determined to help her find out who it was. She got connected with another girl given up for adoption that was labeled as her first cousin. They ended up finding out she was actually my cousin’s half sister from the father! Neither of them knew who their father was and both were adopted out. I did end up getting a name for the potential father from my mom’s cousin and have it to my newfound cousin. She ended up figuring out who her bio father was and has now met his children (everyone is in their 50s now lol) from his marriage. He died a few years ago. They had no idea he had these other kids so they had a period of time where they had to adjust to it before they’d meet my cousin and the other adopted girl but it happened. But yeah. Pretty off AncestryDNA said her half sister was her cousin. Unrelated but it cracks me up whenever I go into my Ancestry and it says they’re 99% sure my mother is my mother. We took the tests together and sent them in together. 😆
@@BrandyTexas214 Oh wow! My aunt would have had this girl in 1961 too. Lol. They lived in Mid-Michigan, my family did. My aunt got pregnant and they didn’t tell anyone, even my mom who was 4 at the time, and sent her down to a place for unwed mothers in Detroit. That’s about 3 hours south of where they lived. She went through her pregnancy there and my family told everyone she was away at school. When she had the baby, a couple adopted her right away. Fast forward to 1984 and my aunt has metastasized melanoma and is dying and that’s when she told everyone and said she wanted to find the girl before she died. That’s when my mom found out everything. It was 4 years before I was born. They contacted the adoption agency who then put on file that my aunt was looking for the child she gave up with the understanding that if the girl also contacted the adoption agency, they would put them in contact. My aunt’s daughter did end up contacting the agency looking for her birth mom but it was shortly after my aunt died. My aunt had two sons after she got married who were only a few years younger than the girl she gave up. They met her at that time. My mom learned her name but felt salty because nobody told her any of that until her sister was dying and she felt like they were putting a lot of bad stuff on the girl with my aunt recently passing. My grandparents exchanged letters with her for a bit too. She apparently had really good parents and always knew she was adopted. They were encouraging when she wanted to find her birth family. I was told about the girl, Lucy, when I was in my teens. So it was the early 2000s. I always wanted to find her but nothing existed yet and my mom still didn’t want to do I didn’t feel like I could do anything. Then in 2018, we took those DNA tests on AncestryDNA and it immediately connected us to Lucy. I was 30 by then and told my mom she deserved some more answers if we could get them for her (my aunt hadn’t told anyone who her father was!) and that it sucks nobody told my mom but Lucy didn’t choose any of that either. So I messaged her and explained who I was and said I was not born yet when my aunt died but I would be more than happy to connect with her, talk with her, and find out anything I could through other family members. I ended up getting my mom’s cousin to name a couple guys they were hanging around back then and one in particular she thought was a little too close with my aunt. So I got Lucy his name and figured out where he was in the area I live in. She ended up running with the name and finding that half sister and eventually other siblings her bio dad actually raised. He had died by then and his kids are reeling that he had at least two kids outside of his marriage to their mother that around their same age but yeah. She knows who her father was now and she’s met his kids and all that. I’d make sure you have DNA on 23 and Me and others as well. Lucy was on Ancestry but is not on 23 and Me and I have other relatives on one but not then other. I’d also try to find out what avenue your grandmother the baby up in and check there. Like, was it an agency or some sort of private arrangement? If there’s any agency or place you can contact, I would do that. Don’t give up. I bet you will find where her baby went eventually. ❤️ Do be prepared for whatever you find though. It can be scary and heartbreaking. Lucy found both her parents after they had died which hurt me FOR her but she seemed to be prepared for that possibility. It could have been reversed and my aunt could have found her baby had died as a child or something. You never know what’s out there.
I did my DNA and was disappointed. I gotta do all the work. So this is not very good. It almost feels like a SCAM. Take your DNA for $100. Ok great. Now I gotta buy a Monthly Plan to do anything more. I’m disillusioned by the honesty of the purpose here. I thought the purpose was to help me and not to make money off me. Want my opinion? Don’t do it.
On Ancestry? Well, that requires either testing known genetic relatives and seeing which one matches you and what DNA segments they share. Or, discovering how your DNA matches match you and seeing which DNA segments they share. Have you created a LEEDS Chart yet? That helps you possibly segment your DNA into four great-grandparent's genetic relatives. Then you could attempt to identify the common ancestor for each cluster and find your ancestor. th-cam.com/video/-74LJyjqo9c/w-d-xo.html
Be careful. Uncles and first cousins have an overlapping amount of shared DNA. Many companies can not differentiate between the two. With the possibility of uncle being a 1st cousin, I would then build a family tree on WATO and then use uncle as the 'unknown'. See if uncle or 1st cousin is the most likely outcome. th-cam.com/video/d6LxMH0zS54/w-d-xo.html
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I’m having some issues with people that I am first and second cousins too and wanted to know is it possible for a half Aunt to be showing up as a cousin?
Genealogy, genetic or otherwise, wouldn't be nearly as much fun if the answers came easily. The research is the best part. :)
You're so much like me. I love solving complex puzzles.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics What an awesome feeling when we solve that puzzle! :)
Researching for 20+ years is not the best part especially when you are getting up in age and just want to find answers.
I’ve been researching for 45+ years and still don’t have answers to one of my original questions. I did, however, find answers to questions that I didn’t know I should have had.😊.
I hope that you will find all of your answers very soon.
I have found ThruLines to be a very good tool in finding how I am related to certain people. However, it makes a lot of mistakes in its predictions. It will assume that similar named people are the same person, when they really aren't. It will often match to an ancestor, but not their spouse. I have to do a lot of research in order to verify the match. I use census, baptismal, marriage, military and other records to help me. Online obituaries are especially important to confirm more recent relatives. It helps that I have over 16,000 names in my database that I can use to link to these people. Whenever I confirm the relationship of newly discovered relatives, I add them to my database. When it comes to obituaries, I can often add a dozen or more names - which in turn allows me to have more possible connections to relatives I discover in the future.
Devon's video about ThruLines does discuss the question of accuracy. Ancestry ThruLines: How Accurate Are They? th-cam.com/video/9PTFo4yh5TA/w-d-xo.html
Thru lines are useful most of the times. But like you said the predictions are iffy at times. It had a distant cousin as descending from a child who died young. Crazy.
Always great information. I definitely need to watch this again.
Glad it was helpful!
Yes those tools provide good leads. I have found many of the predicted common ancestors on Ancestry to be highly suspicious though and are often based on one or two giant family trees that lots of people pulled wrong information from. Be skeptical and verify thoroughly.
Devon will agree with you greatly on being skeptical. th-cam.com/video/9PTFo4yh5TA/w-d-xo.html
I actually do have a 1C3R that is in the 4-6cousin range. And that cousin was pointed out in the first FHF Extra DNA Deep Dive.
You, too, eh? I have a 3rd cousin that matches me in the 5th-8th cousin range, at only 9 cM. I match one of his sisters at 48 cM and the other sister at 97 cM. I can't remember exactly what Ancestry's predictions were for the two sisters because I already set them as 3rd cousins, but I do remember that this sibling group was put into three different relationship levels.
Statistically, the typical range for a 1C3R relationship is very wide, around 30 - 215cM. For fourth cousins and beyond, the expected range is around 0 - 75cM. Because the ranges overlap, then the situation you describe will of course occur from time to time.
@@suzannemcclendon The expected range for a third cousin is around 0 - 109cM. All three of the numbers you quote fall within that range, and are therefore of course not in any way abnormal.
@@nickmiller76 Thank you for your comment, Nick. I know that the numbers for each of them fall well within the normal range. That isn't the issue so much as it just seemed weird for there to be such a wide range within a full sibling group. If you go strictly by the cMs and the relationship predictions that Ancestry gave me at the time, coupled with not knowing how these matches were related to me, or to each other, as it was at first in this case, it was just an added complication that I had to try to work through. Thankfully, I had help.
I have since learned who my bio father is, and who those matches were, to me and to each other. And, I have also learned along the way that, in the great DNA toss, some siblings just do not grab as many segments from a particular ancestor as the other siblings do. In some cases, they are completely hiding behind the door as the Skittles are being tossed. :)
Have a blessed weekend.
Fair enough
Okay, but sometimes you'll be related to someone in more than one way. I've become aware of these relationships through Ancestry Thrulines. They really are eye-popping. I have one DNA Match where we're related through six (6) different paths.
Yep. I have discussed this topic in the video linked here th-cam.com/video/Wlq_a-gdf9k/w-d-xo.html
Is there a way to link matches to the ethnicity estimate? The estimate suggests I am 25% Scottish and I would like to see which of my matches also have Scottish ethnicity.
I like putting the work in,its headache inducing but fun.
What would you suggest (or maybe you already have video for it) when you've done the Leeds method of sorting, so you know which line a match is from, but when you build out the trees of those matches there are no common ancestors and a lot of times not even a common place?
This is usually an indication of someone is incorrect in either your tree or their tree (assuming that you have 2nd and 3rd cousins in the Leeds chart). You are talking about 4-8 people in your chart and 4-8 people in their chart. Just one of them being wrong in the right spot and you have no matching tree
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics This is multiple matches on the same line (Bowmans), but no common ancestor among any of them (over 20 matches built out so far). We can't all be wrong. My mother (her DNA) has over 80 matches to confirmed Bowman descendants, but when trying to find out a Bowman 2x great-grandmother (unknown) or her (2x's) mother-in-law (only a first name known) I'm not getting any MRCAs, not even a name that keeps popping up. No common places either other than states/provinces. At this point I'm ready to tear my hair out out of frustration and give up on the whole thing.
This info is very true. In today's world, where the idea of "work" and "research" flies in the face of the prevailing "copy-and-paste" mentality, I can see where many people will never understand actual relationships. And with so many who test not wanting to post a family tree, it becomes very difficult for someone looking into their matches to gain any insight into relationships. People also need to remember that having the same sequence of base pairs over 30 or 40 centimorgans on a single chromosome does not automatically mean they share a common ancestor.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts,.
how many base pairs is necessary to have confidence that someone is my relative?
A well-done video. Good job!! 👍
Can someone help me determine how I am related to someone with a long segment> I believe it may be through a 1/2 cousin's child. Please take a crack at this reading.
Shared DNA: 205 cM across 6 segments
Unweighted shared DNA: 205 cM
Longest segment: 114 cM
I have a DNA cousin that is estimated to be my 3-4th cousin. His Mom is showing up as a 12th cousin on my tree. Is it possible that he is related to me on both sides of my family?
Absolutely, especially if your mom and dad's ancestry is similar.
There is a tool on GEDmatch that tells you if your parents are related in recent ancestry (5-6th generations back). th-cam.com/video/pvZQN-OA9Gw/w-d-xo.html
I don't think that would help much but it's worth trying to see if your parents have common ancestors within those generations.
Additionally, you'll also want to build your family tree using DNA matches and genealogical records and be on the look out for tree collapse or endogamy th-cam.com/video/Wlq_a-gdf9k/w-d-xo.html
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics A direct ancestor J.R. married M.L After she died, J.R. married M.L.'s niece, M,L.'s daughter married a slightly more distant cousin, Now, J.R. could absolutely marry M.L.'s niece, but their children were half siblings and cousins at the same time. The family is well documented. I haven't yet done a DNA test because of these convolutions. Following the paper trail has the pitfall of not catching hidden illegitimacy, which apparently happens sometimes. Must pluck up the courage and try the DNA route sometime. DNA matches would certainly bring up Endogamy, probably mysterious not knowing the anecdotal information. But never first cousins marrying, that would be disastrous.
I have had answers to several questions in my family simply by several members in my close group. I took the test along with several nephews and nieces and my son .My sister is a full sibling to me as her daughter is a full niece and my two brothers are half siblings to us as their children and grandchildren are half . I established that my nieces father was the one stated as she has many relatives in his family.My third closest match is a stranger to the entire family. Lol. One of my brothers has a son he isn't claiming so since the mystery match has too much DNA to be son of the half brothers but I have one more brother so he must be a full sibling and the father of mystery match. So two questions asked that were answered.
No the claim to part native Americans was not shown
I'm sure there's a video somewhere but I can't find it. So my question. I finally have a match with my last name. Problem is her father was adopted. Both our trees traced back to 1800, neither share even a single place, two different provinces, ON and NB. But shes a 55cM match (60 unweighted), over 2 segments highest one 50. Also she's one generation below me. Are those pretty reliable to believe there's a link somewhere? She is the highest match in that cluster at 4c.
If the largest segment is 50cM, then yes that is a rather reliable segment.
One of mine said half sister or niece. I found my biological father.
Thank you for the info!
You bet
How do I have DNA matches who are supposedly my 4th-5th cousins who don’t share the same ethnicity percentage with me like we have 0% ethnicity in common yet they have 1% DNA as me
OMG Just when I thought it couldn't get any harder IT HAS!!! I am still looking for mother and father of my husbands mum who was fostered in Cork, Ireland in 1922 age 4. She has since passed away but we are still looking. The only truly genuine piece of paper with details on, is this paper which is of Foster Certificate. We have no other name or names apart from hers. No Birth Certificate etc etc. How would I track down who they are please. My husband has done his DNA. There are cousins etc but, we do not know how we would find her parents names and if any family left.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated 😊🥴
Why does your DNA on Ancestry change so much does it mean it actually accurate or is it because someone related to you did a DNA test and it changes the percentage?
Since you're mentioning percentages... I'm assuming you mean ethnicity results not DNA matching. DNA matches don't have much change in how much DNA they share with you. They may disappear from your results list if you or they decide to hide their DNA test kit.
As far as ethnicity results, there are so many things to explain, so I have a playlist all about this topic. Check it out. th-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdlvwsLScE4NPKwGA-XUNhhM.html
Hello I have a cousin that was approach by a young lady trying to find her dad. She said she took ancestry test and my auntie name appear on the paper work. So my question is would this mean that my cousin can be the dad of her or it just mean she related some how
Do you find half siblings come up as first cousin?
I know a lady who’s son has zero matches I never understood that it’s completely blank , I thought maybe the father was a relative
As a half Cajun/Acadian, i have FAR more matched on mom’s Cajun side of the family. I just assumed the dna keeps showing up because we’re all so inbred
Or, your mom's side has more people interest in DNA testing. Or your dad's side has fewer people who could take a DNA test. I made a video about the problem of small families a while ago. Check it out.
th-cam.com/video/pJDjHg13QgI/w-d-xo.html
My aunt gave a girl up for adoption in the 1960s and we were never told who her father was before my aunt died in 1984. My aunt knew who it was but never told anyone. I got connected with this cousin on Ancestry and I was born in 1988 after my aunt passed but I was determined to help her find out who it was. She got connected with another girl given up for adoption that was labeled as her first cousin. They ended up finding out she was actually my cousin’s half sister from the father! Neither of them knew who their father was and both were adopted out.
I did end up getting a name for the potential father from my mom’s cousin and have it to my newfound cousin. She ended up figuring out who her bio father was and has now met his children (everyone is in their 50s now lol) from his marriage. He died a few years ago. They had no idea he had these other kids so they had a period of time where they had to adjust to it before they’d meet my cousin and the other adopted girl but it happened.
But yeah. Pretty off AncestryDNA said her half sister was her cousin. Unrelated but it cracks me up whenever I go into my Ancestry and it says they’re 99% sure my mother is my mother. We took the tests together and sent them in together. 😆
My grandma gave a baby up in 1961 and we are trying to find them through ancestory.. no luck though
@@BrandyTexas214 Oh wow! My aunt would have had this girl in 1961 too. Lol. They lived in Mid-Michigan, my family did. My aunt got pregnant and they didn’t tell anyone, even my mom who was 4 at the time, and sent her down to a place for unwed mothers in Detroit. That’s about 3 hours south of where they lived. She went through her pregnancy there and my family told everyone she was away at school. When she had the baby, a couple adopted her right away. Fast forward to 1984 and my aunt has metastasized melanoma and is dying and that’s when she told everyone and said she wanted to find the girl before she died. That’s when my mom found out everything. It was 4 years before I was born. They contacted the adoption agency who then put on file that my aunt was looking for the child she gave up with the understanding that if the girl also contacted the adoption agency, they would put them in contact. My aunt’s daughter did end up contacting the agency looking for her birth mom but it was shortly after my aunt died. My aunt had two sons after she got married who were only a few years younger than the girl she gave up. They met her at that time. My mom learned her name but felt salty because nobody told her any of that until her sister was dying and she felt like they were putting a lot of bad stuff on the girl with my aunt recently passing. My grandparents exchanged letters with her for a bit too. She apparently had really good parents and always knew she was adopted. They were encouraging when she wanted to find her birth family. I was told about the girl, Lucy, when I was in my teens. So it was the early 2000s. I always wanted to find her but nothing existed yet and my mom still didn’t want to do I didn’t feel like I could do anything. Then in 2018, we took those DNA tests on AncestryDNA and it immediately connected us to Lucy. I was 30 by then and told my mom she deserved some more answers if we could get them for her (my aunt hadn’t told anyone who her father was!) and that it sucks nobody told my mom but Lucy didn’t choose any of that either. So I messaged her and explained who I was and said I was not born yet when my aunt died but I would be more than happy to connect with her, talk with her, and find out anything I could through other family members. I ended up getting my mom’s cousin to name a couple guys they were hanging around back then and one in particular she thought was a little too close with my aunt. So I got Lucy his name and figured out where he was in the area I live in. She ended up running with the name and finding that half sister and eventually other siblings her bio dad actually raised. He had died by then and his kids are reeling that he had at least two kids outside of his marriage to their mother that around their same age but yeah. She knows who her father was now and she’s met his kids and all that.
I’d make sure you have DNA on 23 and Me and others as well. Lucy was on Ancestry but is not on 23 and Me and I have other relatives on one but not then other. I’d also try to find out what avenue your grandmother the baby up in and check there. Like, was it an agency or some sort of private arrangement? If there’s any agency or place you can contact, I would do that. Don’t give up. I bet you will find where her baby went eventually. ❤️
Do be prepared for whatever you find though. It can be scary and heartbreaking. Lucy found both her parents after they had died which hurt me FOR her but she seemed to be prepared for that possibility. It could have been reversed and my aunt could have found her baby had died as a child or something. You never know what’s out there.
That's quite the story of discovery. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Hi just wondering if my dna matches aren't really matching my tree info would i be better to delete the tree and start agine
I did my DNA and was disappointed. I gotta do all the work. So this is not very good. It almost feels like a SCAM. Take your DNA for $100. Ok great. Now I gotta buy a Monthly Plan to do anything more. I’m disillusioned by the honesty of the purpose here. I thought the purpose was to help me and not to make money off me. Want my opinion? Don’t do it.
You can actually get a free account on Ancestry. Yes, you’re required to do some research to populate your tree.
@@cliffordtimpson9842free account doesn’t show your matches tree or really do much at all. So free for nothing like op said.
You can always pay a genealogist if you don’t want to do the work. It’s been fun for me doing it on my own.
How do you find out whether parent 1 is paternal or maternal
On Ancestry? Well, that requires either testing known genetic relatives and seeing which one matches you and what DNA segments they share. Or, discovering how your DNA matches match you and seeing which DNA segments they share.
Have you created a LEEDS Chart yet? That helps you possibly segment your DNA into four great-grandparent's genetic relatives. Then you could attempt to identify the common ancestor for each cluster and find your ancestor. th-cam.com/video/-74LJyjqo9c/w-d-xo.html
My uncle showed up as my first cousin.
Be careful. Uncles and first cousins have an overlapping amount of shared DNA. Many companies can not differentiate between the two. With the possibility of uncle being a 1st cousin, I would then build a family tree on WATO and then use uncle as the 'unknown'. See if uncle or 1st cousin is the most likely outcome.
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How much cm between you two?'
You have to do a lot of research with documents to get even close to identifying a DNA match you don't know.
That's not always the case.
Hi there, please can you help me I’d really appreciate it?