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Reacting to Sisters Wives Season Seventeen (18) episode 2.
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Wow defensive much! Maybe you shouldn't be on TH-cam if you can't handle feedback.you're A bit intense don't you think?
And Cody is absolutely trying to get Janelle to think her reality is wrong! You're interesting!!
David, opinions are like - - -holes, everyone has one. Take what opinionated people say with a grain of salt. Being married for 23 years, I can see you and your wife are cool.
Lol no. Go away.
You seem to be more butthurt about it than he and his wife were.
He was clearing things up, which is a healthy thing to do. What do you do when people misinterpret something you’ve said or done? Ignore it? That’s not always healthy, or professional depending on the setting. If you think he’s being intense, you have not experienced much of TH-cam 😄
You should add a disclaimer at the beginning: “No couples’ relationships were harmed in the making of this reaction video.” 😂
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Yes! 🤣🤣🤣
Perfect!
I didn’t interpret your interaction like that at all. I thought it was done in a joking way. You’re a cute couple 😊
Agree
Agreed! I felt the same. They are always playful, respectful, and have some healthy cantering.
Same, I'd hate for people to view my n my husbands "arguments" .. 🙄 lol
Agreed. I have been married 20 years and the banter between myself and my husband now is not the same as when we met. You joke around and know your partner and spouse are just kidding. No harm, no foul. You guys are funny - stay well and sane!
Agreed, people saw what they wanted to see.
I think Janelle reached her limit and her emotions boiled over. I hope she is done with him and leaves for good.
FOR GOOD
If anybody has the right to tell Kody to eff off it’s Janelle. He deserves way more than that.
It was an unhealthy conversation all around. Janelle saying STFU. . . Was probably cathartic. She is absolutely correct....he is trying to get them all to leave without breaking up with them. It is cruel.
She's my new spirit animal!!!!
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Yep
He’s never broken up with anyone ever. Not so much a polygamist but more of just unable to end relationships at this point.
We still love you….. all is good
It "triggers" me that the kids are referred to as my kids and NOT our kids! If they were truly 1 big family as they wanted us to believe all these years, aren't they our kids??
Well because he has kids with all these other women…
@Sarcasm4Fun I've always said Christine filled the traditional mom role and Janelle filled the traditional dad role. Kody was like the creepy boyfriend who visits to sleep with the mom, eat all the food and complain about the kids. He's surprised that he has no relationship with the kids now but that doesn't seem new to me. It seems like it's always been that way.
This is the best description I have seen. Spot on @@SuperTiffyLynne
Bang on.
It's his way of not claiming them in public so he is not responsible IMO
Kody is absolutely trying to get Janelle to question not her own reality, but her accurate recollection of things that have already happened. He was 100% gaslighting her.
I totally agree. Words derive their meaning as society uses them. Ingrid Bergman was constantly being told that her experiences, WERE NOT her experiences; that she should accept her husband’s explanation. He wanted her to be declared insane. In Austen’s Pride & Prejudice, a very high compliment was to be ‘condescending’. The superior person was willing to interact with the lower-class person. Today, to be condescending is a criticism. It means you treat the person of lower status (or anyone) in a rude and negative manner.
Exactly, how this man can't see it is beyond me.
The term " Gaslighting" sometimes gets me confused where I question myself by saying is this person gaslighting me or am I not really understanding what gaslighting means..... Well Mr. Kody Brown taught me to see exactly what gaslighting is.... For the first time is was soooo clear to me... I couldn't believe it I even said omg he is gaslighting her, and I actually knew it... Kody Brown did one good thing in that episode he showed me exactly what that term is... It was crazy how I could just suddenly and completely know exactly what he was doing!!!
Agree. He is claiming that he never said/did something we all saw him say/do, making her question her own memory. Gaslighting.
I’ve been married 27 years and that was just a conversation. You where not being abusive towards Allison. Those rude comments must of come from single people because that’s a normal exchange between spouses. Married people are allowed to bring up things that bother them and talk it out. Sorry you have to deal with negatives. I really enjoy you both and the different view points. Please keep up your commentaries.
Absolutely....just a conversation between married people.
Haha. I’m a ‘single person’ and still can kind of discern a conversation that married people have. Wow. Also a little rude 😂
More like people who were projecting their life experiences on that interaction.
@@bobbigaukel3860right! I’m single af. Have been for a long time. But it wasn’t hard to see it wasn’t a big deal
@@brite1217 haha. Yes, sigh.
She has been so calm while he reams her, over and over. He ruined her financially, and blames her. Crazy is crazy! Being pushed to snap, reaching that level, she needed to defend herself. This is something new, over the past few seasons. He just pushes her, even when she has nothing left. He never stops. She snapped, I pray she never goes back. Ever!
I think the F bombs came out of Janelle’s mouth because she was ready to be done with all of it. If leaving wasn’t in her radar why did she make the comment last season about doing a stupid thing by not having any assets at 50 years old. As soon as she lost all respect for Kody for how he treated their children she no longer had a reason to stay.
Yes!❤
To be fair, this filmed like 2 weeks after they finished filming for last season so all this stuff is happening much closer together than we are seeing.
Christine’s behavior gave Janelle permission to re-examine her decisions and Kody’s treatment of her.
No explanation is really needed. The dynamic is obvious that you are joking with each other, if people have no humor in their lives that’s sad.
What needs to be acknowledged is that Kody intentionally pushes Janelle to act out in retaliation, he wants her to look like the bad guy. Intentionally on Kodys end. Reactive for Janelle
This!
You make a very, very good point!, with normal, straightforward language! Can I add that this is not something Janelle has done before… at least not on camera.
I think she was, in her heart, at the end point. So, after this crazy exchange (which we only saw part of) she was done, done done.
@PierreRiopelClone iii.. perfect example of how an "ego' behave oufff
talk to us about Robyns psychology by forcing herself into the gift exchange
I've read somewhere that Robin was included because of her younger children. I believe someone had stated that Logan started the text chain for the gift exchange, but then in Mikelti's (I'm sure I didn't spell that correctly) live she stated she started the exchange. But, then I was thinking back to when Mikelti had forced people to come and say bye to Christine & Truly before they were moving... and made me wonder if Mikelti was the one that added Robin in the text conversation (since she still has a good relationship with her) I feel like Mikelti probably felt like the proctor, but it blew up because the other kids probably didn't appreciate that since they are older and have unresolved family issues.
Right??? I really wanted to hear more from @PopPsych and Allison about that!
@@KNowinskyI don't trust a word Mykelti says. It was Logan who started the text but once Robyn was involved suddenly Mykelti claims she started the text thread? Suuuuure!
@@KNowinskyI don't think we have heard from anyone involved how Robyn or any of the parents got involved. All of it has been people speculating. And some people when speculating say things as if they know or they think they have the only logical reason.
Even David on this channel said a reason based on a statement Robyn made. Robyn said some of her kids were forgetting who their siblings were and Hunter or someone said back that one zoom meeting wasn't going to change that. David said the reason Robyn got involved was because her kids felt isolated and he said it as if that was the stated reason. In fact, he said it so confidently that I rewatched the Sister Wives episode to see where he got that. We don't know that is why she stepped in. It is all speculation. And so is my speculation on why David said what he did on why Robyn stepped in. It was the only logical reason I could see for David making that statement based on what was said in the episode.
THIS I found the story about the text thread to be the most interesting thing in the season so far and the most telling. This was my understanding from the episode:
1) Logan started the thread about a siblings gift exchange
2) After awhile someone said "we should include the moms [in the thread]"
3) Robyn tried to make them do a video chat
4) The adult kids (everyone except Ari and Sol) were willing to do so, they just asked it be scheduled and not at that exact moment because they have lives
5) Robyn became offended
6) Some of the kids tried to lighten the mood with jokes
7) Robyn and her kids got offended because they didn't understand
8) War broke out Robyn's kids vs OG kids
And this is what made me realize the root cause of the implosion of this family is Robyn is A) controlling B) stupid and easily offended.
Think about it
1) Robyn's kids are stunted because she won't let them grow up.
2) Robyn wouldn't let her kids assimilate with the other kids, didn't send them to Christine's instead getting in-home child care; was always fussing over them; always accusing the others of bullying etc.
3) Robyn's neediness dictated where Kody was and what he was doing
4) Robyn's always the first to get offended by "we're not included" when she's actually isolated her kids
5) Her behavior has brought out the worst in Kody and made him controlling
6) She moved the whole family to follow her adult son
I wonder if it was one of Robyn's kids that suggested the moms be included because they aren't use to being allowed to do anything without their mom.
Now I think Robyn is too stupid to be the manipulative mastermind many people think she is. I do think she has a lot of fear and anxiety and that dictates all her thoughts, perceptions, and actions and this needy victim princess that stole all of Kody's attention because being needed makes him feel important is the result.
Part of the enjoyment of your channel for me is seeing the playfulness between you and your wife. Thank you for your content!!
People better stop starting drama about you and your wife’s reaction videos because they are my favorite, please don’t stop doing them!
Kody's rules for covid are a textbook example of gaslighting. He refers to rules which he does not specify but constantly changes. He eventually presents the rules only to then deny that he is behind the rules which is the root cause of the family's split. He explains in yet another episode that the reason Garison and Gabriel should move away from home is because they don't follow the rules that does not exist. The rules they know about because Kody told them they were the rules he required them to follow as he tells Janelle. She is sooo bamboozled after a life with refined manipulation for the moment manifesting i covid rules.
I'm honestly shocked that he doesn't see that as gaslighting. It's textbook!!
Now this is the way to explain it perfectly. You should be the Psychologist because you summoned up EXACTLY what Kody is doing especially with Janelle. This other guy keeps tap dancing around Kody bullshit
@@KristySkiTotally agree with you. In my opinion this psychologist says things to not hurt anyone's feelings instead of calling a spade a spade.
Well said…Well said!!
@@meredithmitchell35Exactly I was going to say the same thing. He is trying to be neutral but this is a reaction video. Call out what you see.
I found the banter refreshing tbh…it was an honest reaction and I really appreciate seeing the interaction. No one was mad, but she was able to kind of tell you off because you cut her off. I saw an expression of a healthy relationship.
Same.
Same here!
I love watching you and Allison!! I personally thought it was a playful disagreement 😂
I found you two cute and more typical of reality. Every couple has moments and you just showed how to work through it. Don’t worry about people on the net.
Gaslight is such a good movie. Charles Boyer, and Ingrid Bergman. In the movie, he marries her for a very sinister and sneaky reason, and isolates her from everyone, and she starts to have a mental breakdown, and the few people who see her think she's crazy too. Yep, probably a very overused word. But, anyways, pop some popcorn and watch this movie before the next episode of Sister Wives. 😂
Yes and telling her she’s so fragile and mentally unwell and “needs rest.” He also cheats on her with the hired housemaid and makes the housemaid join in on his abuse by convincing her how “unwell” Ingrid Bergman’s character is.
@@basicallyno1722 Such a good movie! Very Hitchcockesque.
It is a good old film!!! I wish more people would watch it.
Love that movie!
Is it on any streaming services?
You and your wife are authentic and your recaps are entertaining and fun.
I’m old enough to remember that Trigger was the name of the Lone Ranger’s horse 😂
Roy Roger's horse :) but you were on the right path
😇😇😇 me too...both❤
Love the couple videos keep ‘em coming!!!
Dave I love seeing you and your wife poke fun at each other. I think it shows how healthy your relationship truly is. Thanks always for your thoughts on things. I really enjoy your company.
The thought that Kody could have saved the relationship is true, however he did not want to save the relationship. He, as Janelle said, is trying to run her out just as he did with Meri and Christine.
He mentioned in season 15 or 16 that the family is an obstacle to his goals. He no longer wanted the relationships with the OG3 but was too cowardly to be honest about it so he went about it in a way that would force the wives to officially leave him, even though he has already “left” them in reality. He even wanted Meri to move back to Utah and away from flagstaff.
Kody built his house on sand. He was a narcissist, no doubt from the onset. This entire mess is the result of 4 women who hooked their star up to a narcissist in a plural marriage... and they finally all woke up. His older children... all woke up.
Yup.
Kids always know the truth. I knew my mother was a controlling and neurotic person when I was very young - I don’t understand why Robyn’s older children haven’t revolted yet
Her son has autism, so that adds another component. As for her other children... eventually... the pattern will expose itself. @@laurieerickson7205
There was nothing wrong with your interaction with your wife. I think a lot of people just want to make a drama out of everything.
Before Kody left the apartment . He managed to fill his sippy cup with hot water. Lol
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Yeah, I laughed so hard at that because to me it signified just how much talking and not listening he did. His mouth was parched from running it so much 🤣.
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My guess Janelle had to always to have a a kettle of hot water for Kody. Even though she never knows he is visiting or not. Let's not mention any other things she has to have ready for him. Forgive me but I gotta go there... Like her glazed donut ready for his banana 🍌🍩 🤢
I saw that video & I didn't think there was anything wrong with you & your wife's interaction, I actually think you guys are cute together!
Kody didn’t want to save any of his relationships except for his relationship with Robyn. He and Sobyn only want people in their lives that feed their egos. That’s what Sobyn did for Kody. She came in and fed his massive ego and pointed out, often verbally, how the other wives are not doing this anymore. It wasn’t fair yo the wives. Robyn came in like little Ms. Perfect and she’d light on all the imperfections in his other marriages. But Kody refused to do the work and take accountability for his mistakes. He’s just a big baby that wants everyone to do everything for him. He blamed the wives for everything that went wrong . I saw that from the beginning of the series.
Sobyn used her kids to feed kodys ego too. From day one she had them calling him daddy. Who the hell does that? You marry someone and make them a stepdad you should make sure the guy has earned that title before crowning him with it. Robyn needs some serious therapy herself.
Amen! Telling your kids to call someone Daddy is so psychologically wrong!
Agree with this. Don't force your kids to call their step parent "Mom" or "Dad." That's the child's decision. ( Step-Mom here). I have some sympathy for Kody in that the entire dynamic is a nightmare to navigate...but that's part of what gave the show it's initial appeal. Many of us were probably thinking "Okay...how is this possibly going to work!?!?" (From both the husband's perspective AND the wives' perspective) And of course we're seeing that it doesn't. I was rewatching season 1. The part where Kody blurts out "I picked the dress!" - Stupid and insensitive? Totally. Christine gets up and walks off because this upsets her. She says to Kody "Did you even know /care what I wore!?" (something to that effect). I sympathize with Christine's hurt feelings but then she comes back and calmly talks to him like he's an 8 yr. old about the wives all picking him because they know he's capable and that she expects him to step up and do better, they know he can do better, etc. I found that far more cringy than the Season 18 Janelle/Kody fight. All of the wives feelings were hurt. But there might have been a way to educate Kody without humiliating him. He was pretty gracious in the aftermath and said he done a stupid thing and shouldn't have, etc. Taking that x3 for your transgressions over 30 years would be difficult. Hopefully you become more sensitive, but with three different individuals as partners, it's challenging. Again, why polygamy probably requires some super evolved humans for it to work. Who is super evolved at 19, 22, 21, the age when these folks get married? I've just started rewatching the seasons to try to get an over arching feel for how they all arrived where they are currently, but one of the things I'm interested in seeing is whether theres support for my belief that Robin's agenda was to stay home with her kids and thus she was okay with being "othered" by the original wives. Alternative was that Robin adds her kids to the group that Christine watches and gets a job. As it turns out, Robin doesn't really get a job ( don't know that My Sister Wives Closet really made them any money), AND gets a house full of art and crystals and other "collectibles" PLUS a nanny!
@@mantarea1208 Yes, I totally agree with all this too. There is just no way one father can be a dad to 18+ kids and not have some kids feeling neglected. The wives did their best to make their kids feel loved and secured by Kody but you can only fool kids for so long. And the brighter more sensitive kids will figure out the truth a lot sooner than later. And Kody expected this of his wives. The wives were constantly in the middle of him and his kids facilitating their relationships between them as best as possible. That was all fine with Kody because most of the time the wives were siding with him and singing his praises. Now the jig is up and Kody doesn't want the wives to meddle. But we still don't see him taking responsibility and trying to repair the relationships. About the dress episode, I think that was somewhat staged. I believe Christine's reaction was genuine but I wonder how much the producers were involved in drumming up drama. And Kody at this point should have know sharing that would hurt the wives. I do think there was a lot of jealousy between Christine, Meri, and Robyn. Meri tried her best to suck up to Robyn to win more favor with Kody but obviously that didn't help. I'm glad these women are on their own now. They deserve a happy peaceful life after all that mess. I agree this life style would absolutely take some "super evolved people". I'm pushing 50 and after ups/downs in my relationship I wonder if at this age I could do it. Dare I say . . . I think I could. LOL But I would only want it now because sometimes a regular break from the husband sounds appealing. HA HA!
There will always be people who are over sensitive. My husband has aggravated me a couple of times, and I've said, "Okay, Kody Brown." 😂😂😂
Love it!😂
No way!!!😂😂😂😂
Low blow! Low blow! 😂
@@patriciabee. I know right? 🤣🤣🤣
I’m so glad you got to connect with Meri! I bet on tv you constantly feel criticized. I hope she feels supported.
Y’all were laughing through the whole triggering squabble. It was funny and you both were laughing through the interaction 😂, what a leap to claim abuse or bad person
To me gaslighting usually happens when one party has an affair and the other partner is figuring it out the cheater claims nothing is happening and that you are making this all up in your head. That is gas lighting. But I think it could
Be used when one partner (like Kody) is always lying or changing their story.
@@Thirstycactus636You bring up an excellent example of gaslighting in a marriage (affair which the cheater denies to spouse & treats spouse like they're crazy). I like Pop Psych (David), but I wish he'd acknowledged which real-life marriage situations ARE gaslighting situations (ie your example).
First of all, I really enjoy the banter between you and your wife. IT IS CLEAR THAT YOU AND ALLISON WERE PLAYING AROUND. Allison seems to be the kind of woman that doesn't have a problem speaking her mind. So, I do not worry about you or Allison. Second, I appreciate seeing the authenticity of you and your wife. Finally, this is meant for entertainment and we get to see situations from a therapist point of view. I have no idea why anyone would be up in arms. Listen, keep providing us with great content on Sister Wives.
I never thought you two were doing more than givimg each other crap and having fun. You two are fun to watch. I was triggered by Kody. I was in a physically ans emotionally abusive marriage at 20 and ended up being in a shelter ti stay safe for 2 months.
Hugs
When Cody said “Goodbye”, that was him leaving/divorcing Janell. It’s over for him. I’m not defending him in anyway but my husband and I treat the words ‘shut up’ as an extremely offensive cuss word. It makes my skin crawl. But I also understand Janell’s pent up frustration, she is tired of Cody always running away from conflict. He said at one point the he was ‘available’ to the kids. They are adults, if he truly TRULY wants to fix his relationship with his kids he needs to be the bigger person. The kids feel abandoned by him and their life is great, why would they want him back in their life just to cause stress and conflict!
I agree he was severing himself from her.
Dont get so worked up within the comments. The dynamic between you and your wife is lovely. Anyone who has seen your other videos would 100000% disagree with the hate. Now the term gaslighting I feel is appropriate. Its a form of manipulation and Kody makes all his wives/kids question why Kody doesn't love them. It drives them all crazy and question themselves. The fight was heated and Kody doesn't want to save the relationships. They should have taken a step back and regrouped before continuing but then again Kody has said he has an escape and doesn't want to make the effort to actually show that he cares.
I agree he probably wants to gaslight everyone and is trying to do so, but terms for diagnosis often come with degrees of severity and Cody sucks at it because no one is deceived by his BS. But they are extremely hurt and that might be enough to warrant the term… I don’t actually know.
I respectfully disagree, Kody is absolutely gaslighting Janelle. We have witnessed him say that Janelle did not comply with his covid rules ( she asserts that she complied with all of the cdc rules), then he states that she’s helped turned her boys against him( in fact he didn’t foster a relationship with his children and isn’t working to repair the relationship).
IMO, Janelle is the most candid of the wives, she doesn’t seem to have an agenda or hide her motives. Her explosive reaction to Kody was a woman seeing all of the years she wasted on a man who only cares about his wants and his image. She exploded because she can’t even have an honest argument with him because he’s sitting there lying to her face. Kody is aware of his actions and doesn’t care that the consequences have hurt three of his wives and their children. He wasn’t present and hasn’t shown equal love and affection to his wives and children.
Right! Everything he described what gaslighting means explains EXACTLY what Kody did to his wives!!!! I think Pop Psycho is gaslighting us! 😂
I think the difference is that gaslighting is intentional and generally requires a bit of forethought and cunning. David probably doesn't respect Kody enough to give him the credit of being that smart😂 I think Kody lives in his own narcissistic fantasy land and he cannot fathom that he is often wrong and that not everything is about him. He's not trying to trick Janelle into thinking that she's crazy as part of some big master plan. He simply believes that he and Robin are victims and everyone is against him and everything he believes is correct. There's no empathy. He doesn't put himself in Janelle's shoes to see her perspective because he's too narcissistic. (Plus this whole family has a history of abusing therapy speak. Like they saw some therapist a handful of times and suddenly they were avoiding any kind of difficult conversations by claiming that they didn't feel "safe" because she used the term in a session.)
9:26 Cody is intentionally trying to make Janelle think that he already apologized and that he just wants to talk to the kids...also that he doesn't play favorites. He's trying to make her think he did nothing wrong and that it is all her.
I don’t think it’s intentional with a nefarious aim-like, he’s not trying to make her think she’s crazy. I think he _literally_ believes what he says. His own sense of reality is bent around the idea that he is never wrong, which is wild because, before they moved to Flagstaff, you could see clear examples of him owning his faults and apologizing to his wives. But, maybe that was his personality for TV, and as time went on, we got to see more of the *real* Kody Brown, the narcissist. I don’t think he’s incapable of gaslighting, as I think David mentioned, but I know neither he nor Janelle was gaslighting the other in that conversation.
@@emoonae He was gaslighting for sure. He literally said everyone knew the rules when he didn't give them until a few weeks before the holidays. Which is a lie.
He blames his relationship with his adult children on her. Like what, she is playing devils advocate and he trying to make her belive she was betraying him.
He knows what happened. He plans to take no responsibility and try to make Janelle or any other wife think they are the issue.
I am 100% Team Janelle, but from what I can see in this scene, they are just arguing with each other, and neither one is in a state to gaslight or be gaslit, in the traditional sense. In my opinion, the tone and volume are everything in this exchange. To gaslight (or attempt to gaslight) someone successfully, you have to show that the _other_ person is worked up in a heightened state, while _you’re_ the one who is rational. *They’re* crazy, and if you reason with (read: manipulate) them calmly enough, they start to believe it. Again, I do not think Kody’s _incapable_ of gaslighting, but I’m not seeing it in this exchange where they’re both just yelling at each other. Are they referencing instances of being gaslit in the past in their arguments? Maybe, but again, I think the main issue with the argument Kody is attempting to make is that Kody has a warped sense of reality where he is never wrong, and all evidence to the contrary is rejected outright as “lies”.
You are flying through the social stratosphere, it’s a whole new world. Do not apologize for being you.❤
I love the interaction you have with Allison on the reaction videos! You respectfully disagree with each other and you can tell that you both love each other. I love the banter! Keep them coming, David and Allison! Ignore the haters because there will be haters no matter what you say or do.
Regarding Kody contacting his boys, he told Janelle that the phone goes both ways and then he later told Meri and Sobbyn that he had reached out. I feel that he lied to Meri and Sobbyn. It also was so obvious that Sobbyn knew what happened at Janelle’s prior to her going to Meri’s and also noticed how she manipulated the boys and others to Meri’s for Christmas Eve.
Yes - you could see her leading the conversation. I thought it was strange how she referred to everyone getting together to be "scary"... I think it's because the older kids are calling Robyn and Kody out on their BS and it would be scary for Robyn to have to face that reality... and then her kids would learn the truth too.
You are spot on! I’ve spent many years in a dysfunctional marriage, and both of us have been emotionally abusive towards one another. Marriage is tough. Bad words are used, and pride is the biggest obstacle. However, watching your reaction videos have taught me things about myself, and that of my husband, that help me to realize the approach I need to take to remain centered and humble. I have learned so much from you, and I’m thankful you are using your platform to help others.
No one knows the intricacies of your marriage, but you two.
There are times when enough is enough. This idea that no one should ever lose their temper just seems foreign to me...
That's not the idea at all. The idea is that it's wrong and verbally abusive to tell anyone, let alone your partner to STFU. We all mess up, and we should be able to admit it to our partners when we do. Using that kind of language is also an indication of just how much contempt has built up, and contempt for a partner is a pretty solid predictor to divorce.
Yeah but ole girl has a limit to how much unfair treatment she can take. He should learn to stfu and listen to people. He treat them to the point of breaking then puts his hands up like he’s a victim. Couldn’t be me!
She was never going to get a word in edgewise. Kody was going to say his piece, blame and gaslight her and then leave.
I actually thought you and Allison having a little "debate" was a very organic and authentic interaction between two people in a relationship where they have differing ideas on something. THAT is actually reality...not "reality" TV. 😉
Exactly! It seems a lot of people have forgotten what reality actually looks like :/
You just had too many Karens in the chat that day 😂
Love you guys ❤ Wish your videos were longer 😊
Kody ruined his relationship between Christine and himself decades ago and the problem became known to us viewers as the therapy-rock-building event, where Kody strongmanned Christine into neglecting / ignore their marriage struggles and instead prioritize the entirety of the family.
Kody is scarey and his behavior is escalating. The escalation can be a prelude to Intimate partner violence (IPV). See “Escalation theory of domestic violence”. His eyes are fixed and dilated, and showed symptoms of dissociation; I doubt he will have an accurate memory of the conversation. Thank goodness, the production crew was available. I would not meet alone with Kody.
After the argument with Janelle, Kody downplayed it & said they had argued like it was some simple disagreement with Janelle & not the complete blow out that actually happened. In his mind, they had a few words with each other. It was vicious, violent & bordered on the physical when he pointed at Janelle & the camera. It was domestic violence in the emotional/psychological sense. Kody was an abusive bully toward Janelle.
Notice Janelle did not move from where she sat as if to keep what little space she could from Kody.
Kody is a monster & if this is his idea of getting rid of a wife, it was awful to watch. Janelle has always been reasonable, smart & a gracious person. She did not deserve this televised mess. TLC is complicit with showing a monster of a man-child. It was bad.
Gaslighting is when someone like Kody argues against facts and instead makes up lies to continue to mess with Janelle’s version of reality. He is messing with her recollections, calling her a liar so that she questions herself and her own version of reality. She rightfully says he is manipulating. You cant just lock up women because men say they are crazy anymore so the definition has evolved. Did you watch the most recent gaslit series? You cant just get your local corner doctor to assist you in locking your wife away anymore so instead, the offender tries to get the victim to think they are crazy, to question what they experienced. Also, read the short story The Yellow Wallpaper.
I think it's hilarious Kootie Brown opened the episode saying "triggered triggered, triggered"😂😂😂 How serendipitous
I absolutely love your videos and the two of you interacting together. The last video of the two of you showed a typical interaction between couples which as you mentioned is important. I really hope you don't get discouraged. I love the way you methodically break down the interactions between the family members and as an Australian viewer we don't get this series at the same time as the US so I love watching your videos! Keep up the great work Allison and David!
I’m always amazed that when people see a few minutes of a TH-cam video they therefore think they know everything about the people in it.
Love the discussions between you and your wife. Good stuff!
This channel is truly unique in the sense that you don’t just repeat the same exact thing. Allison is like the stand in audience character/ voice I love it. but your the actual voice of reason that points out both sides, really really love you I know it’s hard to play your part when your truly try not to be biased. people definitely have opinions and I think becuz they love u so much they want ur opinions to be the same as there’s 😂
I appreciate your authenticity! I love watching your playful banter back and forth. It’s genuine and not abusive.
Love watch you and your wife communicate over watching this show. You both respect each other's opinions and different points of view. Don't listen to those negative people and using the wrong words and thinking that it gets new meanings just because they say so is ridiculous and wrong. It's called educating those who don't know! Don't spread ignorance educate!
Well what I see is a wife that can safely challenge you and vice versa. No respect was lost between you two but it is fun and healthy to be able to express your differences.😊
Everyone’s cheering Janelle right now for acting out of line maybe because she sat back and just took his crap for so long
So I think she owed him that one
I love your channel and can’t wait for your reviews and the interaction between you and your wife is gold. Love it! It’s fun stuff.
Thanks for the explanation, as I didn’t know what the term “gaslighting” was. I love what you and Allison are providing. Honestly though, I am beginning to worry more about me than Kody! I become enraged at his behavior and soon am calling him a pig out loud and screaming at the television. He is infuriating. Pushing 70 years old, you would think I have more control. Guess not!🤷🏼♀️
My husband is always reminding me that Kody or Robyn can't hear my rants at them... lol 😂
@@blu3622 I know what you mean! It doesn’t stop me from yelling at them ! Lol
Your videos are entertaining. Don’t apologize. I recommend not engaging in comments. Not worth it.
Exactly, the comments were wild. People need to chill out.
It definitely was a fun interaction and I really like having you two together, because I love seeing both viewpoints. Keep doing what you are doing because you two are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are 4 different types of gaslighting..outright lying.(kody did) manipulation (Kody did) scapegoating (he has done to all 3 wives ) and coercion (which he used to do but couldn't get away with anymore) that is what is taught nowadays..this is why we say he is gaslighting. ❤❤❤
I think the main problem is Kody was once again avoiding the situation and continuing to blame her. I agree that her behaviour was not good but I think it was a natural reaction of someone who is at their limit. That is why she said “So we’re done then?”Because that is where she is now…done!
I took it as you two disagreeing about a word. Didn’t lose any sleep over it, no worries 😂
Lol I've been watching this channel just for the drama you bring now 😂 loving the content and its appreciated! Keep it up!
I think the fact that when you and your wife are doing the videos together and always smiling and laughing, it’s a dead giveaway that you’re enjoying yourselves. Love you guys and love your channel and content. ❤
I realize this episode wasn’t really about Robyn, but I’ve been wondering for a while-do you think Robyn is what’s considered a “covert narcissist”? After learning about the different types of narcissism, she really seems to check a lot of the boxes for covert. I hope you see this and can give some insight!!!
Rob'em is a Sniper from the Side, type of Narrasist...Phew Phew Pew...
Janelle was right when she said Kody creates the environment for them to leave because he feels like he cannot leave them. Kody didn't want to save it. He set Janelle up to literally leave him.
Lol, when I watched your video with your wife, I laughed out loud during your “fight” because I knew you weren’t really fighting and because I could totally see my husband and I doing the exact same thing. I think you two are amazing and I really enjoy your videos. I really respect your opinions and thoughts and I’ve learned a a lot from you. Keep it up!
Hi! Just wanted to comment because I’ve watched sister wives since S1, and hearing your breakdown of the different relationships, kids, etc. has been so insightful to me. I’ve always been interested in psychology, and hearing these breakdowns on one of my favorite shows is amazing! Don’t let the bad comments get you down, you and your wife are awesome!
I enjoy your take on things! It’s educational from a psychology point of view. And I enjoy your wife’s instant response to the show. She’s most of us! 😄 P.S. you are NO kody. Actually, I’m not sure there is another kody.
Keep up the great channel!
IMO: "trigger," "gaslight" and "PTSD" have been overused that they are diluted. Same with psychological diagnoses terms like "narcissist." While it's fun entertainment to see Janelle push back, she's said that she tends to stuff her feelings and then, when she reaches her limit, she explodes. That's not the most effective way to handle problems, stress, etc. over time. And, with the way Kody can select a less "cantankerous" wife, I can see how each of the OG3 was set up to compete with each other. He always had that leverage of "do what I want or else I'll spend my time elsewhere." This aligns with his withholding affection, and offering affection and attention on a conditional, and possibly unachievable basis. None of the OG3 are perfect people. But when you live your life in competition with other women, only to see the 3 of you lose out to the Perfect, Younger 4th, well that life is untenable.
It's a shame. People who actually suffer due to gaslighting, PTSD, etc are having the terms that describe their very specific and intense issues turned into Internet speak that no one takes seriously. Imagine having a trigger that stems from something like r@pe and now you basically can't discuss the experience of being triggered because it's been watered down and turned into a joke.
Oh my goodness!!! Thank you so much for saying this. I'm so sick of triggered, gaslight, PTSD, and calling people narcissists. Even when trigger was the "in" word, my daughter NEVER used that word. Call it what it is... Pissed off😂
My husband and I enjoy watching sister wives, and we can't WAIT to see your reaction videos! You and Alison are our favorite! It's evident you both love and respect eachother. Keep doing what you're doing!
Thanks for being human! When I viewed that interaction between the two of you, I laughed because that’s exactly how my husband and I interact together. I enjoy your comment and insights from you both. Nothing like having the opportunity to expand on life’s experiences, no matter where they are generated 🤗
Sorry you got so much backlash. I think you guys are wonderful together. Love seeing you and your wife.
I think you could do wonders for Meri so please keep in touch with her. I feel her cat fishing experience makes her not want to give up on kody and hearing a professional opinion about her situation might help her feel safer trying to venture out into the world without kody again.
I enjoy your channel a lot. Love your perspective as a licensed professional. Thank you both for the realness!
The you do you boo comment! God that was amazing. Love yah work. Kept it up!
Not gonna lie, you sound triggered at the beginning of this video…😂
I’m kidding, of course. I appreciate both of your perspectives and enjoy the friendly banter.
Ive been in a marriage that ended and for sure there was a point where there was no going back once i had decided amd watching Janelle i felt that she was at that same point. There is no fixing anymore. I can see it in everything she does the look on the poor womans face. Im sure every other woman whos been through it can see it amd feel it too.
Oh my gosh I love your interactions! I love how she tries not to smile when she was telling you you triggered her 😂 I thought it was a fun, loving, playful interaction that showed your connection. I've been married for 30 years and thats how we are.
My perception of your relationship with your wife is that you are BOTH able to speak up with and to each other - and it's refreshing! I've never noticed that either of you become angry at or shut down by the other in your conversations. I love that you allow each other to have your own personal opinions and discuss those views openly with each other. If anything, you and Alison are showing how adults can agree to disagree and respect each other as well as have some fun along the way!
So, to rephrase, if Kody were a completely different human being than the one he actually is, he could have saved the relationship. 🙄
Part of me wonders if the spin we have heard about Kody leaving Meri and Meri “asking her for a break” was more spin than reality.
10:56 The “Go Janelle” Dance needs to be included in every video. You should pick one person each episode to cheer on and do the dance! 😂
I thought it was great to watch you and your wife go back and forth a bit, I thought it was cute. It's so relatable. I love watching you guys!
The start of this is hilarious. As a happily married person, watching you and your wife interact was so obvious to me a fun funny back and forth.
Who is gaslighting whom?
I changed it - thank you!
This is a late comment but I had to come here to say, David - the fact that you did call Janelle on the way she spoke to Kody is the reason I watch your content. That's real. Also, I am team Janelle and support her 100%. That can be true and I can also agree that her wording and reaction was unhealthy and not conducive to healing or resolving the situation. David, thanks for speaking absolute truth despite knowing you would probably get some backlash. Also, you and Allison are adorable and I love seeing you react together. Thanks for the content.
Newer viewer here. I love the REAL dynamic between you and your wife. Keep up the good work!
People overreacted for sure on the last video, but the truth is that your relationship is now public because of these videos, and subject to the scrutiny that public relationships bring. Your viewers will feel entitled to voice their opinions about what you present to them, especially since the content of your videos is mainly about critiquing relationships. I love the videos the two of you do together, just food for thought.
That is ridiculous. You are not like k ody.
Quite frankly, I think Janelle was driven to the point where she cracked and I Dont blame her at all for telling him to F Off.
I appreciate your authenticity. God bless you and your wife. Your work here is unique and important. Thank you❤
Looking at it from the outside, I don’t think she was laughing like you think she was. She looked very taken aback and honestly, embarrassed. I think this is just a good opportunity to look at your communication style to see, even if you don’t agree with what’s being said or how it’s being said, you can let the other person finish his or her thought and then provide your input. Whether you (or anyone) likes it or not, she can say, “triggered” all day long. I hate the word, “irregardless,” but I won’t stop someone mid-sentence for using it. It’s my issue, not theirs.
But she stood her ground, and it's not fair to judge their communication from the few snippets of their conversation within the video.
@@blu3622 I provided my two cents on what was shared, that’s it. Everyone can benefit from being better communicators.
I think they should have all texted kody and say we’re all coming for Christmas and see how he replied.
I just have to say, I’ve only recently discovered your channel and I enjoy all of your videos. At first I thought the several videos per episode was a bit much but after watching a few episodes and the videos I realized that no, they’re not necessary, but definitely useful and I’m glad you post more than one.
Also, I’ve tried watching other watch alongs or recaps and it just isn’t what I want. I don’t need to know what happened, I watched the episode. The part I like is hearing an educated perspective. With your content I feel like I get both: I get the husband watching with his wife but I also get the licensed, educated professional as well. It’s really a good set of companion videos to watch if you’re a SW watcher.
Lastly, I can’t imagine how difficult it would be to get criticism from every viewer, especially when they aren’t familiar with you as a person or your marriage and how you interact. I don’t think I could stay out of the comments myself, which is why I don’t post any videos, so I get what you’re saying. Personally, I like that you react to some comments. Interacting with viewers is a plus for me. I hope it isn’t always the negative comments that get the interaction though; I’m too new to really be able to tell yet.
I’ll wrap up my novel now! I enjoy your videos, definitely don’t stop, don’t change anything because it’s very enjoyable as is. I think you do a great job. I don’t agree with those saying you’re being defensive; if someone has drawn incorrect conclusions based on a tiny window into your life/marriage/interaction with your spouse I see it more as protective than defensive. You’re not just a random recap channel and I think people forget there’s actual professional basis for the opinions you have and not just something you decided to come up with while watching the episode. That makes a huge difference for me. That is what makes your channel so enjoyable for me.
I’m so glad you were able to connect with Meri! I knew I was personally invested when I was so bothered that she misconstrued what was said.
Geeat content and I will definitely continue to watch! 😊
Oh hell no! I love those Dynamics between you two.. that's what I watch Carrie. I'm so like-minded with you guys and I love you both! Keep it up!
Woohoo bout time! Been waiting🎉thank you!
I enjoy watching you and your wife's reaction videos! Please don't stop making them. 🎉
I so appreciate you and Allison’s interaction, so fun, and anyone who says you are like Kody is just totally ridiculous!!! Love the two of you and it is so so great for people to see a married couple communicating in such a healthy way❤. I can tell you both are crazy about each other! And so appreciate you clarifying the definition of terms. I taught communication for decades at the college level and have been there 😂! Just because a couple is disagreeing and yes at times interrupting (didn’t people see the big smile on your faces) does not mean there is a conflict! And conflict is normal in any relationship, but what we saw with K and J was very disturbing. What could a counselor say to them, if they walked into a psychologist office for help, that might break through to him?