Analyzing Evil: Gordon Gekko From Wall Street
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Welcome everyone and welcome to the seventy-fourth episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villain for this video is Gordon Gekko from the Wall Street series. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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Your analysis of Gekko is spot-on. I'll add that Gekko was so deep in his own short-term greed that he never even contemplated the idea that liquidating Bluestar could be a tremendous miscalculation. Anyone with two cells in their brain and any sense of their own self-interest would have foresaw that destroying Bluestar would have led Bud to turn against them. It was the one company which he had a vested emotional interest in because his father worked there. Instead he could have left operational control of Bluestar to Bud as its CEO, with himself silently holding the majority of the shares, and reap the rewards while keeping Bud eternally grateful. Gekko could have owned Bud Fox forever, but instead pushed him into destroying him.
That "flaw" is explained by Gekko's greed and selfishness having taken over his other senses. Greed made him do it, and selfishness made him think nothing would happen to him because of how influential person he is
Nice analysis, I enjoy when people criticize villains based on their objective failures in accomplishing their goal; as opposed to any moral grounds. Gekko definitely could've executed the process in a multitude of better ways than he did.
@@derrickstorm6976 It's not only that, Gekko explicitely saw Wall Street as a sum-zero game with winners and losers. Him buying Bluestar's equity at a low price, then liquidating its assets, would have been financially sound if, after analyzis, Gekko had concluded that there was no better way to turn the company's profitability around. Gekko's hubris was that this idea never entered his consideration, because he was dead-set in his dog-eats-dog mentality.
Gekko meeting Bud again in the second movie shows an other way that plants the seed for Gekko's change of heart at the end, which would be totally out-of-character for a corporate sociopath like Gekko. His old nemesis, Sir Larry Wildman, went the other way and believed Bud Fox's thesis that Bluestar was salvageable. Even after his stint in prison, Bud had earned such much goodwill from everyone at Bluestar that, despite him being a corporate felon with a criminal record, he was voted back as CEO and allowed to make all the necessary cuts which turned Bluestar around. Far from being a Wall Street loser, Bud Fox did it as a "good guy" and ended up building his fortune doing so.
Obviously... You think someone with gekkos stature wouldn't know this...? If Gekko's firm has the mandate to invest debt restructuring they will... Look at how they trade, it's fast, highly liquid and emotionless. They are 1 person in the market, that's what makes a market...
no you missed the crucial line that Gekko uttered when Bud asked why he wrecked Bluestar? "Because it was WRECKABLE". The value of the numbers added up to more than the value of his alliance with Bud because he knew that even as a potential enemy, Bud Fox was no match against the Gekko machine. Also, Gekko even mentioned the story of the honeypot to Bud - the same very honeypot he had ensnared Fox in as his apprentice. An apprentice in which he also saw a younger version of himself.
"Causing thousands of people to lose their jobs without them ever having a say in the matter is abhorrent." This. That's the spirit. Keep going.
what "say" should they have? Tell me. I want to use it when I suefor keeping my job as a payphone repairman.
Hurt them back ruin the short sellers
Edit: Got my terminology wrong
That presupposes that they, by right, are owed the job and that the loss of the job is a violation of said right. Nobody is owed a job.
So many bootlickers responding to this comment defending Gecko.
socialism will win my friend 🚩🚩
Gordon Gekko accidentally inspired the over-gelled slicked back hair and some 1980s fashion. People emulated characters that were never meant to be emulated. Michael Douglas never intended for Gekko to ever be respected or admired.
True, people are dumb as hell they emulated the gekko, the Tony Montana, the Michael and Vito Corleone...it just shows how easily corrupted the human nature Can be...smh!
True. I heard Michae Duglas in an interview state this fact.
I also heard a story about a stock trader who told the creators that he thanked them as he was originally studying to become a doctor before watching the movie.
Gekko is an American icon
Pat Riley inspired that hair
oh please do Falling Down. It took me seeing Michael Douglas here his amazing performance in that.. a very different look at Evil even when the villain doesn't even realize that "he's the bad guy"
Yes that is a must now that Gordon has made the list.
Yes please this
He wasn't the villain, he just wasn't economically viable.
Especially in the scene at the country club house with the family where he first realizes he might be the bad guy
@@urielmejia8127 exactly or when he's trying to get breakfast at the fast food joint and hes 2 minutes past 1030. so he straight up pulls a gun on the employees and then realizes when he's already instilled fear in everyone that he'll just take a burger
There's a reason why greed is on the 'seven deadly sins' list and ambition isn't. You explained this quite well. 👍
Great description of callousness, which is a key component of psychopathy. Many psychopaths, especially high IQ ones from stable backgrounds, go through life seemingly easily - until someone or something gets in their way. At that point, it doesn’t matter to them how much someone else will need to be hurt, as long as the psychopath gets their way.
Gordon gekko is a sociopath
Well those psychopaths RUN the show of our lives and our society so people should start learn from them if we don’t want to loose in their game
“Greed, for lack of better word, is good.” Yes that sums up much of 80s economic pop culture quite nicely.
You could say nothing has changed in 40 years, even at the cost of one market created crash/recession after another.
@@GhostRydr1172 True but you could also say it was more aesthetically popular back then. Or at the very least, Reagonimics had yet to be disproven beyond belief
Hustle / grind culture is literally no different from "greed is good"
@@ThatGuy-bh9qh indeed.
Now Vile Eye states that Gordon is a sociopath and it begs the question I formulated years ago to someone that didn't believe in evil. Is evil real? Is all that we deem as "evil" is just various degrees of sociopathy, psychopathy or any other mental disorder. I just don't think so. Nen and women can commit evil acts, repent and "sin no more" without therapy/meds.. Are they mentally ill? Are antisocial jerks that do bad things continuously for kicks and without penance just mentally ill? It doesn't seem that simple an answer and to me mentally illness sounds more like a convenient excuse than underlying cause.
@@GhostRydr1172 It's gotten worse, much worse.
The Vile Eye is consistently excellent.
Always
Yessir it is
What makes Gecko so compelling to me is that he is completely honest with himself about what he is. He knows and admits that he adds no value to the world; all he does is make other people's lives harder by selling something for much more than he paid for it, and like any conman he takes pleasure in this fact. In the words of Lazlo from GTA V: "Have you seen my show? It's not funny; it's not original. That's my genius: I got no talent!"
I mean to be fair this is what any investor does: hopefully sell a stock more than you paid for it.
Please do Ramses from the Prince of Egypt some time. His story is so tragic and heartbreaking, while never trying to excuse the heinous actions he commits. And his slow downfall is both devastating, and dramatically ironic. And his dynamic with Moses is amazing. You feel bad for him while still understand that he’s in the wrong. 10/10 character.
Fully agree, though I have to point out a few things:
-Slavery back then was pretty common. So many empires back then reached their prosperity through the use of slaves. Even the Hebrews had slaves of their own after they conquered Israel.
-The Bible is somewhat contradictory. In this part, they say that Hebrews being enslaved is wrong, and yet there is another part where it says that slaves should obey their masters with both respect and fear. So, does that mean that everyone can be enslaved and have to be obedient except the Hebrews?
-It's weird that Ramses' father, Seti, was the one who started the whole thing, and he even murdered Hebrew babies, and yet Ramses was the one being punished for simply following his father's traditions.
-While not shown in the movie, the Bible states that Ramses was pretty close of letting the Hebrews go, but every time God hardened his heart and made him stay stubborn.
I am a devoted Christian, but this whole part always made me feel weird. Just because I am a Christian, it doesn't mean that I have to agree with everything written on the Bible.
@@lisboah I believe the Bible to be a Paleolithic version of asops fables. Meant to teach lessons but clumsily told
You'd basically have to do Prince of Egypt and The 10 Commandments in one video because the character is essentially the same.
@@lisboah The Hebrews weren't actually slaves. They were given land on Egypt's frontier because they were excellent soldiers. Eventually Egypt got concerned about how good of warriors they were so started paying them to work on public works projects for which they were paid. So they went from mercenaries to common laborers which was not ok with the Hebrews
@@nickdarr7328 Wow, that's actually interesting.
From 12:30 to 12:40 I was absolutely floored by what you had said. You Sir, are an Absolute Gem. Lmao
Other than that, Great Job and Keep up the Great Work Vile!
I had to rewind it since he used such philosophical dialect
Seeing as you've covered Gekko, I'd love to see you cover Jordan Belfort from Wolf of Wall Street. Not as depraved as some other villains you've covered, but he still possesses that same extreme self-serving ego that Gekko does.
So you listen to me and you listen well. Are you behind on your credit card bills? Good! Pick up the phone and start dialing! Is your landlord ready to evict you? Good! Pick up the phone and start dialing! Does your girlfriend think you're a fucking worthless loser? Good! Pick up the phone and start dialing! I want you to deal with your problems by becoming rich! - Jordan Belfort, the wolf of wall street
They’re really the same person excpect for the fact Jordan’s real and more obsessed with himself making him a lot worse (also his voice in real life is annoying as fuck)
@@zill0678 Gotta be honest, as bad as Jordan is, I can't watch that film without wanting to go crazy, like pouring milk first then cereal last
@@JoePesciBallsack maybe so but you still get cereal. I think if Vile Eye choose to cover Jordan Belfort he would make the decision if the real Jordan and the movie Jordan are similar enough to analyze as one character like previous villain's.
Great idea
Michael Douglas is a great actor who can play both convincing good guys and bad guys. Both Gordon Gekko and William Foster from "Falling Down" prove that.
(Though Black Rain is probably my favorite one Douglas has done).
If I could make a suggestion for a future villain, how about Scorpio from "Dirty Harry"?
He's a villain that is both insane and cowardly, but is also collected, smart and manipulative.
I rewatched Falling Down for the first time in many years and it is still fantastic. :D I like that D-FENS doesn't become a monster over the course of it; he already was. We just see a man we empathise with and then gradually become more and more concerned with every action he takes and each piece of information we learn about him.
A movie and character that perfectly represents how Wall Street truly works and its mentality.
This channel is a gift that keeps on giving! Thank you for covering some of my favourite characters of all time. In the future, I’d love to see you analyse Wilson Fisk (Marvel’s Daredevil), Tommy Shelby (Peaky Blinders), Frank Underwood (House of Cards), Ernst Stavro Blofeld (007), Grant Ward (Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD), David Xanatos (Gargoyles), Wesley Gibson (Mark Millar’s Wanted), James Moriarty (Sherlock Holmes), Dorian Gray (The Picture of Dorian Gray) and Tom Riddle (Harry Potter) 🙏
Many of the Bond villains (especially the literary ones) would be welcome additions to the channel. I would also add a few suggestions to your list too including The Jackal (Day of the Jackal), Edgar (Men In Black), Ma-Ma (Dredd), Karl Ruprecht Kroenen (Hellboy), Tom Ripley (The Talented Mr. Ripley) Don Logan (Sexy Beast) Clarence Boddiker (Robocop) and Anton Phibes (The Abominable Dr. Phibes)
I’m not sure Tommy Shelby or Wesley Gibson are villains.
hi i think most everyone here has probably already noticed this but i wanted to say i always think its really cool how you manage to make the last word in your reviews "evil". i always look forward to your creative character descriptions at the end. keep making amazing content :)
Man, I'd never thought I'd see Gordon Gekko on here but I'm glad he is. Gordon was a delightfully evil character to watch! Thanks for posting this!
What a great villain. One of my all time favourite villains. Cunning and just down right crafty.
That being said - all true and spot on. The character of Gordon Gekko, while certainly not to be emulated, is one of my favorite movie characters ever written. The way he is structured and presented is what I'm talking about. Superbly written, and BRILLIANTLY acted. That character, as portrayed by Michael Douglas, made a shocking impact.
I remember watching this movie when I took film criticism in college and being entranced by Gordon Gekko, even though he was the villain. I never saw the sequel, but I'm curious as to how well it holds up to the original.
Quite honestly one of the best channels. Thank you for sharing your brilliant mind with the world.
I been recommending for this for a while and so glad you did it. Your analysis is just perfection.
Please do Connie Nikas from Good Time. His character and performance is so complex and detailed and that movie convinced Matt Reeves to cast Pattinson as Batman.
Love your analyses, a lot of them are on movies I haven't watched in a while so I end up going back and rewatching them after watching your videos
I love this channel. And the fact you’ll never run out of content anytime soon is even better.
I like this one! Terrance Fletcher from ‘Whiplash’ would be good to see.
I’d like to add Blackheart from ‘Ghost Rider’, and Frank Nitti from ‘The Untouchables.’
Fletcher is such a evil sucker..lol..i can't stand the end justify means type of people, specially for superficial things such as Glory, power, money, ego etc..
Gordon Gekko is much like every politician that's ever existed
Great video on Gordon Gekko, a prime example of pure greed being evil here. You should definitely cover Jordan Belfort from Wolf of Wall Street in the future.
Also could you do a video on Clyde Shelton from Law Abiding Ctizen? (I think he fits the trope of a sympathetic villain.)
Excellent. Your video analysis helps to understand the movies better.
Dude, you’re the shit! Gordon is one of my all time favorite characters.
Been a fan for a while and your videos are interesting even if I don't know the story you're talking about. I admire the variety keep it up man!
I'd love to see you talk about Omni Man from Invincible
I wouldn't say Omni Man. He is a soldier.
@@undeadblizzard So were Nazis
@@leonrobinson8180True.
Also, another character you could analyse is Silco from Arcane. He does some bad things but his ultimate goal is to free his people from oppression. Also, he respects his friend, Vander, even though he murdered him and Silco was heartbroken by Vander betraying him and attacking him. He also loves his adopted daughter, Jinx, and his relationship with her greatly humanizes him to the point hwere he gives up on his goals to protect her from Piltover. His death is one of the saddest scenes in the series and this speaks volumes about how well-written he is.
10:17 almost word for word with the wolf of wallstreet guy, how did they even manage to make this so accurate?
Yes!
Been asking for this 1 👍🏾👏🏾
Your ads are very relevant to your content it's the only time I ever just watch through as well.
I'd really love to see an episode on Caesar from Fallout: New Vegas!
A video on lord of the rings characters would be cool. Such as Sauron, Saruman, and Gollum
While Sauron is my favorite villain from the Tolkien universe, both Saruman and Gollum would be the most interesting to analyze.
There's not much to say about Saruman and Sauron, their evil nothing much to explain there, except for Gallum&Smigle, he's a good case study tho
I would be more interested in a video about the ring itself. A sentient and malevolent McGuffin.
It's funny how Tyler durden is the extreme opposite of Gordon gekko lol...
@@Bombadil-ez9ns That ain't bad actually.🤔
That's like asking if the Devil is truly evil or just a troll. And that can be a legit question, if he tempts is he really evil or did he tease the evil already within you to emerge. I've teased someone into fighting me to the point of they drew a knife and I still doing just to fuq with him.
Gordon Gekko was a beast who did what everyone else that wanted to be at top was doing in 80s. Just had to keep friends close but enemies even closer. Not pissing off men with more power and connections than you. Gordon's downfall was his greed and trusting his pal,Bud. Rat wore a wire on man who Bud came to not other way around.
One thing I've heard said by people who are driven to make a lot of money is that past a certain point, it all turns into a scorecard, and the money becomes a way to compete with your own prior best and demonstrate to others how good you are.
In fact, Gekko acknowledges that "greed" is not the optimum word choice. His full sentence is "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good," though even "ambition" has pretty much secular and materialistic connotations today.
It would be cool if he also did an analyzing evil for only non-fictional characters. Serial killers, worst war criminals etc.
That may be a little too tricky although awesome if done well. But I doubt TH-cam would monetise such content.
@@LucLB01 Good point
It's harder to sum up a human being than a character, because people are infinitely more complex and messy, with a pile of additional details thrown into their lives that may or not be relevant to why they do what they do. Still, plenty of true crime documentaries and podcasts give it a shot.
You are brilliant! Your character studies on dark characters are top notch.
Please. Analyzing Evil : James Moriarty (BBCs Sherlock)
D-fens from Falling Down would be an interesting video.
Great analysis bro
excellent analysis as always, not sure if yt comments are the place for requests but love to hear a analysis of Wilson Fisk.
This is a great channel, as a lot of people have commented Michaels character in Falling down would be great, one of my all time favorite movies and here is another suggestion from a lesser known movie which stared Michael Keaton called Extreme Measures, he plays a great villain thats pretty complicated
Thanks for doing an episode for Gordon Gekko.
With that being said, I want to recommend another villain from another Michael Douglas film:
Alex Forrest from Fatal Attraction.
i think a video on either the kurgan from highlander, carl from ghost, or the aliens from they live would make for an awesome analyzing evil video! love your stuff dude
I remember being a kid wanting to work at Wall Street cause money...turns out I suck ass at mathematics and am more of a visual person.
ah if only learning was easy, I'd be rich
In a few years, artificial intelligence will take care of the most difficult mathematical calculations and perform the best market analysis. I even dare to say that the job of broker is in danger of extinction.
People motivated by money and material possessions such as gekko are unbearable..the movie was made to criticize greed but dumb audience didn't get the message..they only Saw his dumb lavish lifestyle and wanted the same thing..smh!
Work in Data then
@@LucasN00b Genetics play a key part in it being more difficult unfortunately, something you can’t really control…
Michael Douglas has said that after the first movie he got fed a k from real investment brokers who described Gordon Gekko as their idol, the man they wanted to be. And that he found such responses disturbing as Gekko is a liar, cheat, and backstabbed. Not a person anyone should look to as a role model. He tanks with Tony Montana and Tyler Rierden that way.
I could see that. The character (and film itself, thanks in no small part to writer/director Oliver Stone) is meant to be a representation of everything wrong with 1980s America--greed, ignorance, self-centeredness, callousness, hypocrisy, and short-sightedness personified into one despicable weasel of a man. And as you said, Gekko is far from alone in terms of '80s fictional characters wrongly looked up to as role models rather than cautionary tales by those wanting cheap ways to feel better about themselves without putting in the actual hard work of soul-searching and self-improvement.
Excellent analysis. Ambition is good , not greed.
Been looking forward to this one. Bravo! As others have suggested her, Defens would be ideal for analysis.
Can you please do Frank Underwood from house of cards!!!!
This is masterful. The soundtrack you play adds the perfect environment. This channel is of high caliber.
When I was a kid I thought GG was so cool. After I got to my teens I started to appreciate the direction of the movie and realized that it was just a great movie overall. Love the scenes when Gordon fades into the darkness, true evil always fades into darkness.
Jerry Dandrige from Fright Night (1985, that would be a treat for us 80's horror people or The Caller from Phone Booth...... Thank you and your channel is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 10/10
Future considerations:
Agent Smith from The Matrix series
Handsome Jack from the Borderlands series
Hector Salamanca from Breaking Bad
Nicky Santoro from Casino
Jimmy Conway from Goodfellas
Mr. Blonde from Reservoir Dogs
Practically any character from Pulp Fiction
Christof from The Truman Show
Nosferatu from multiple sources
Neil McCauley from Heat
The Thing from The Thing
Jake LaMotta from Raging Bull
Biff from Back to the Future
Khan from Star Trek
Wilford from Snowpiercer (film)
Both greed and ambition have caused humans to get where we are. If you dog was in charge of the food, and everyone was starving, your dog isn't going to save some for you. That's greed, and it is part of being an animal.
After watching your (again) well crafted video, it just dawned on me how closely ambition and greed can be, and easily they can be confused for one another, because they stem from a similar source; a strong motivational desire for success.
Great as always ☺️
Jordan Balfort was basically the real life version of this guy.
I like the differentiation between whats greed and ambition.
THANK YOU for this one!!!!
May I suggest analyzing Kingpin from the Netflix Daredevil series? There's a lot of material there.
Alright! I've been waiting for
this one for some time.
Madoff is a different kind of raider, he only stole from the rich to himself, that why he go to prison, in "civilised" society, is pretty standard practice to take every penny and the house of any grandma that you can find, and not go to prison, but if you dare to take money from the rich or enter their club without being one them, you go to prison.
Tom Ripley, Grindelwald, Vincent (collateral), Kuroro lucifer, meruem (hunter x hunter), nagato, kimimaro(Naruto), shinobu sensui(yuyu hakusho) Karl von bulow, Philip and Elisabeth Jennings, makishima (psychopass), Helen Pierce (Ozark), ben Linus (Lost) morgana and mordred (merlin), lalo Salamanca, killmonger...
Which Tom Ripley? IMO Damon's is superior
@@jessebrucepinkman9834 i only Saw the damon's version Never Saw the original..how it was?
Gordon Gekko is not a psycopat. He is a machiavellian with a high degree of narcissism. It`s the narcissism that makes him go into crime. He don`t belive the rules apply to him ( entitelment). And have a general lack of empathy on the macro level. He also cheats on his wife. But he don`t seem like the type to do murder. At least not himself. I think if he was a politician he would most likely also be doing crimes/scams/corruption etc. And has the charm and intelligence to go strait to the top.
Excellent video. I wouldn’t throw Icahn in there w the others, but I see your point. Again, love this series.
YESSS!!!! I been waiting for this one😎😎
Love your channel
These two movies were extremely eye opening for me.
Gordon Gekko's "greed is good" speech is used on many MBA courses (including mine). I remember citing the TH-cam video for it in my first assignment. And as you say the interpretation of greed our lecturers used was as a synonym for ambition.
Gekko wasn't speaking about ambition but pure greed..people lie to themselves..
@@fideletamo4292 Ambition drove his greed or greed drove his ambition. I've never really understood which came first.
Just wanted to comment saying the quality of the narration has improved immensely in this video. Comparing this narration to the narration in the Davy Jones video, he's definitely stepped up a notch in the delivery of the script.
This is what I was waiting for
Don’t think casuals would have seen this movie, not mainstream enough for you, Vile.
What the hell is a "casual"?😆
@@doctorthirteen5499 People who only watch mainstream movies like dark knight. There’s not many arthouse movies on this channel.
Do the wolf of Wall Street
YES! One of the all time greatest movies
I haven't seen the movie but still heard of him,maybe he's iconic?
Movie is great, definitely worth a watch!
The first one is a classic.
Don't bother seeing the sequel, unless you're really, really bored
Your work is brilliant and I would really enjoy a video on Lois Wilkerson from Malcom in the Middle.
I come for the analysis content.
I stay for the wide variety of villains that get selected.
Just watched wall street Michael Douglas was fantastic probably one of his best roles Charlie sheen was also great in this movie
Another great entry. Very insightful. Would you please consider any of the foolowing for a future video:
*Ned Trent & The Leon crime family - The Specialist (1994)
*Dorian Tyrell - The Mask (1994)
*Major Vic "Deak" Deakins - Broken Arrow (1996)
*Thulsa Doom - Conan The Destroyer (1982)
It would be hilarious if you did Will Smith or Chris Rock for April Fools Day, lol
Definitely NOT Chris Rock.
@@TeamCat1128 why not Chris rock? He’s not truly a fault here at all due to the situation, it’s mainly smith’s fault.
How's was that evil?It was more of a lack of communication.
I just watched Falling Down and I thought it was a great movie. It’d be cool to see an episode on Foster since his actions can be considered evil in a way but he doesn’t seem to realize it
What is it about evil that I find so fascinating? I believe I’ve seen every video on your channel, and I never fail to watch new videos as soon as I’m able. Great work as always.
Great vid
your voice is perfect for like an audiobook or whatever it's called
Love your content man, gonna watch this movie tonight it seems really interesting. But I just wanted to point out that Lord Voldemort is a GLARING omission from your channel. When I realized you hadn't done him yet I was honestly taken aback. Hope you get around to him sometime.
Wall Street aka a documentary about Yuppie culture.
WSB has made a Cameo on The Vile Eye, truly this is the highest we can ever get
I’ve not seen this movie but I need to now!! These are always the highlight of my TH-cam news.
I had the idea for doing Captain Hook from Peter Pan. Specifically Hook.
I loved the shout out to the Apes!
i like the scene in part 2 where Josh Brolin and LeBoeuf are talking....he ask Brolin...'whats your number, you're number to just walk away(how much money would it take)' Brolins answer: "more". That perfectly sums up greed and Wall St excess in one word.
“Oh f*ck yeah” was my immediate reaction to seeing this in my feed
Of all the things to come from this channel, the "apes strong together" meme was not one that I expected.
loved the video please do some more anime\manga villains like Doflamingo,blackbeard,freiza,johan leibert,big mom,kaido
Love this movie.