The things I do when I buy a new record | How to care for vinyl
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- There are a few things I do every time I buy a new vinyl record. Nerdy? Yup. But worth it.
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A joint, a couple beers and my couch!
You forgot the most important part, play it!
Cloudy Milder Did I do that at the end...? Can't remember LOL. May have cut it when editing but but yes, the most important part!
I've thought long and hard about the benefits of keeping the record outside of the cover and opted to keep mine in. I use the Blake sleeves though, in such a way that the flap position corresponds to the cover opening so I can get the record out without taking the sleeve out of the cover.
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Open it, brush it, play it, catalog it, flip it over, (outer) sleeve it, shelf it; having enjoyed the process so far: repeat from time to time.
It's not rocket science, after all...
i guess it's quite off topic but does anyone know a good website to watch new movies online?
The first thing I do is wait until I get a stack of about two dozen or so records, which I take to my SpinClean. After cleaning and drying, I then put them on my turntable to give
them a listen. Clean records only on my platter!
I'm into CDs so need to do anything to my new CD but play it before it hits the shelf & some get more plays before that happens. But I do love watching your show as it's all about the music no matter the format,
Cool channel and great tips man, Thanks! Getting back into my old vinyl collection, after many years of Cds and mp3s. Love the Passion and Warfare on the shelf display!
Open, clean thoroughly with a 50/50 mix of spring water an isopropyl, change inner sleeve put on outter sleeve.
Great advice Frank on preserving the exterior packaging of the record. The stickers add cache to the record exterior and the plastic sleeves guard against fading of the cover art. In my own situation space became an issue so the removal of the packaging and exterior sleeves was necessary. I cut out the stickers and put them in a box. Keep on spinnin !
I buy it and play it 😆😂
The most important part, for sure!
Frank
Oliver Same!
I just found your channel, love it! Thanks for the great videos.
I just started back, to collecting vinyl records again. I've learned a lot on how to purchase, care & now catalog my inventory. Thankfully I have 75 albums so far. I'm thinking about getting a new turn table & expanding my shelves for more records. Thanks Franks & keep spinning; ) \m/
Dude....Every Sunday...look forward to your videos. ...keep 'em spinning...
Thanks James. Much appreciated.. glad to have you aboard.
Frank
Awesome ritual Frank, and informative as always! I love that vacuum gadget, it's super cool! I need to get some of those anti-static sleeves too. I usually just get the plain paper ones, but an upgrade is definitely in order! I'm catching up on your videos buddy, now on to the next one ;)
Cheers! -Jex
Good to hear from you, as always my friend. I have a bunch of catching up to do as well. With packing and everything, I haven't watched a video in a few weeks, or responded to comments in a week or two.
Best wishes
Frank
I do just what you did, I learned that from Bruce Spizer . Author of Beatles on Capital books, after I showed him some of my rare lps at Beatlefest . Good post again, thx!
I wish I could have seen this last night. Glad I saw the video this morning. I was at a Metallica concert last night in New Jersey. Epic as always!
Awesome! It would be a fun show to see, but man, tickets are expensive this time out! Glad to hear it was epic!!!
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Frank
Always interesting to see other people's rituals. Mine is very similar to yours. Cool video
Great tips and tricks. I do almost the same!
hey frank
great video. i use a cleaner for my records and it works perfect. great video enjoyed it. have a great week my friend
mike
Cheers Mike!
First time watching your videos, good stuff, and nice to hear from a Canadian collector (I guessed that you are in Canada based on the moosehead and basement insulation).
Yes sir!
you are the best vinyl youtuber.. you and scott waters are great
Thanks, I appreciate it! Scott Waters definitely rocks. I love his channel.
Cheers
Frank
thanks for the tips frank
Cheers Darien!
My current ritual.
1) Remove the shrink. Remove the LP. Most new releases have those card paper inner sleeves that do nothing but scratch the hell out of the record. These can be tight and stuck to the record due to static. Care must be taken to remove the record without causing any scratching or scuffing.
2) A cleaning on a VPI 16.5 RCM. I use the AIVS number 6 fluid which is there one step fluid. I have the three step fluids, but those only get used on really dirty records.
3) Record is placed in a MoFi sleeve and the cover is placed in a 3mil outer sleeve. Most records are stored in the outer sleeve behind the jacket. The original sleeve is placed inside the jacket. Hype stickers that contain additional information (like the Pink Floyd reissues) are cut off the original shrink wrap and placed inside the original jacket as well.
4) Add the record to my collection on Discogs. If the release is not yet on there, I will add it to the database first.
5) Playing them might be done at the same time. Sometimes I must wait until I have enough time dedicated to listening.
I like your Strohs sign. I grew up on the stuff.
Frank, thank you for homemade cleaning solution recipe. works like a charm :)
Awesome. Glad to hear it worked out for ya!
Frank
I picked up a bunch of MoFi sleeves at Reckless. The guy was pissed when I made off with the rest of his stock, but, oh, well....customer is always right.
Haha, no doubt! Was it a good deal?
Frank
10 to 15$, I think. I went back after RSD, on the Monday, to see if there were any spare copies of Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields Forever, and he said "sold out 15 minutes ago, so....come back later..." - that was the guy I pissed off with the MoFi's. So grown up, getting even with me.
I was skeptical about the anti-shrink thing myself until fairly recently...when I was buying records in the 80's I always used to do as you did here, open but leave the shrink on and those records still look pretty good today. So when I started buying vinyl again I did the same...now I am going through my shelves and finding things I bought 3, 4 years ago or whatever and the corners are getting creased from the plastic constricting. Not all, but a few. Never had a problem with older used records that still had shrink or were sealed. I use an Excel spreadsheet as well, not switching to Discogs at this point in the game and spend 1600 hours of my life re entering everything. Cheers Frank!
Good info! I will keep close tabs on the records I have with shrink on them. The only time I will keep it on is it's a non-gatefold, and there is a cool hype sticker.
I'm with you on Discogs. I just can't re-enter everything again.
Cheers!
Frank
A great idea to keep a spreadsheet! I did start one on Discogs but it took a long time to look things up and I lost interest. Maybe an Excel spreadsheet would be better (although it won't tell you the value of your collection automatically).
When buying records I always keep them stacked up until I have at least 10, but ideally more like 20, and then I'll Spin Clean them. I store my records the same way as you with the record inside a sleeve (sometimes MoFi but usually Disckeeper 2.0) at the back. I then use a 3mm sleeve to put the whole lot in. I have the sleeve opening at the top which may sound illogical because dust can get in...but have you ever tried pulling out a record horizontally when the opening is on the side? Good luck getting it out without the record and/or sleeve falling out.
I used to have a spreadsheet for my collection.... But i have to tell you discogs is one incredible data base. It only took me a few hours to enter over 300 records. Just type the catalog # or scan the barcode with Your phone.
Discogs has a great phone app. Just scan the bar code and add it to your collection. You can group by folder and add comments. It's very convenient and easily searchable on your phone when you see something in the thrift store and you're 100% sure if you own it already.
My Ritual, After receiving what I bought online or after the store, I log it in my Discogs App. And place the record in the order I bought them, I also add notes like acquisition price and such. Great vid.
Very cool. The Discogs app is sure popular. I almost wish I had started with it... too late for me to change course.
Thanks for weighing in Richie.
Frank
I process my records to MP3 I use Sony Sound Forge Audio Studio 10 to convert the recording to digital. Whilst on the turntable, I play the record "wet", which means I apply a mix of water, methylated spirit and dishwashing liquid(in roughly equal parts) to the disc while it rotates. This lubricates the surface and also eliminates static charge, helping also to dampen the clicking and popping noise from surface scratches(as long as they're not too deep). If I encounter looping-click...er looping-click...er looping-click...er looping-click.....I can edit it out easily by finding the point where the repeated portions begin and end, and with a mouse-click, the repeats are gone!
Yeah. I bought a turntable a while back but it needed a new stylus. I took the cartridge and headshell to a place I knew in Newcastle(NSW, Australia) to get the right type(Audio Technica model, number unknown), I've now to reinstate the turntable and make necessary adjustments to get back into transferring some recently-bought 45s to MP3. Cheers!
Automatically subbed for the strohs beer sign
Thanks Paul!
@@Channel33RPM I subbed because your channel is awesome, but that sign made me happy. Didn't know they distributed in canada. Makes sense. It tastes horrible now. Like a worse PBR. I found an original neon sign recently.
I like the separation of the vinyl from the jacket for easier access and less handling of jacket/ damage. My concern is of the vinyl do you feel it may be less protected outside of the jacket
Nice video, revealing we have similar 'new record ceremony' The ritual has been removed from so many activities in favor of ease they become, like digital music everywhere and meaningless. It takes discipline to enjoy this hobby at its highest level. I keep my collection in Discogs and a personal database.
Awesome Alex. Indeed, the ritual is important (if you ask me), and part of the fun. Cool to hear we follow a similar method.
Cheers,
Frank
Awesome. You got the Lucifer album. Great record. Hope you are enjoying it.
Love, love, love the album!
Totally awesome. If you still trust me, another one of my favorite records that is in the 70s style but a new band is Horisont - Odyssey Such a great record that has great sci-fi concepts to boot! Took me more than 1 listen to get on board but once you play it 2-3 times you don't want to turn them off!! It becomes an addictive album.
I always wonder whether I should clean my new LP before its first play. You make a good argument to do so. Thanks!
Thanks Cameron. I try my best to clean all new record, even if it's just a light clean. I find it makes a big difference.
Cheers
Frank
Thanks for the advice, Frank. All the best!
I carefully remove the stickers and put it on the sleeve :p
Somehow, I just stumbled onto this video today.....Do you still do the same today in 2023 as you did back when you shot this video? Any updates would be cool to see. I have thought about creating a spreadsheet for my albums too, right now I only use Discogs database. Good video
Need to search the vinyl vac... do you use it after a wet clean as well, like out of the Spin Clean? I started to rinse my records with distilled water and a wetting agent mix after the spin clean so there shouldn’t be any residue left. Looking for a quicker way to dry them without dropping bucks on a Record doctor.
Frank a good episode as always! but I was wondering if anyone out in the VC has any experience with the ELP laser turntable from Japan?
Thanks Richie! I do not have any experience with this turntable. Hopefully someone else can weigh in.
Cheers,
Frank
I thoroughly inspect it before I clean it with my Nitty-Gritty vacuum machine. I check out the deadwax info and then go to Discogs for any details that may not be on the inner sleeve or outer jacket. Then while playing it I enter it into my spreadsheet. Then after it passes inspection I record it at 96/32 resolution. My biggest problem is that I haven't bought any albums in 6 months. :(
6 months... long time! I like your ritual.
Cheers!
Frank
Very nice video man! I got a question, can I have a template from the Excel file that you using for your vinyl list? I really like to note all of my vinyls too, but I don't have the skills to make a professional list like that. Please let me know mate, and I just bounced that like button! :)
Here ya go!
drive.google.com/open?id=0B0ryLzJTXqN5ZkQ0TWMwQWR0NDA
Frank
I don't know how to thank you man, this helped me out! Last question, how can I set the artist section in order? so that I have all my albums from A to Z. Please let me know this man, and keep up the good work. I'm very curious about the rest of your video's!
When I have been using the spin Clean I keep getting a lot of static. I tried cleaning with distilled water and also with the cleaning solution but it does not work. Have I “destroyed” the records beyond repair?
Discogs helps when on phone in store or flea market, did I have that one or not? Now I have three oops
Do you send any new vinyl back if has a slight warp or off centre when spinning?
Wouldn't using discogs to log new records in be easier than making an entire spreadsheet?
Thanks for leaving this comment... definitely a good call. For guys like me, there's no way I can switch now (because I don't want to re-input everything.... that would take way too long). But otherwise, seems like a great option.
Cheers,
Frank
Yeah.. there is no way to import to discogs and I think they do that purposely to make sure that the information is detailed and correct. however .. collectors does let you import lists if yer willing to pay for the software. I find it very handy to have
Mason Moss this was my thought too. Now, the good news is that the discogs app has a barcode scanner which can help speed up import. Great tips!
Good to have you on board Metal Jesus! Watch your channel often. I wish Discogs was an option when I started my spreadsheet.. Too much work to switch now, and anything pre-early 1980s doesn't have barcodes. ARGH! Barcode scanner is super cool though. Use Discogs all the time to research titles. Cheers all!
Frank
Importing would be a cool option...
"Genre: $25."
LOL, did I mess up? Hope I went back and fixed it!
Frank
I've got a question. I take VERY GOOD care of my LP's and have a decent turntable ($400 in 2000). I've noticed that Pink Floyd's Endless River is riddled with noise after only 4 plays and my David Gilmour Live in Gdansk lp#5 (Echoes acoustic) is getting some noise. I use MO-FI sleeves and take good care of the Stylus (bought a new one two years ago). What in the heck is messing with my vinyl? The Endless River is so bad, I'm going to buy another copy. I know it's not the turntable because other vinyl is DEAD QUIET.
Same ritual )))
+ Discogs, + RateYourMusic. (Yes, I rate all my collection )))
and I don't have a "price" column, I don't know why (but it's too late)
Never too late! For me "price" was a later addition, so this field is blank in my earlier entries.
Cheers
Frank
$3 for quadrophenia? I'm so jealous, wish they had those prices where I live
Hey Channel 33 RPM. (1) About how possible is it to help keep your vinyl records alphabetized when loading them on an excell spread sheet? :) (2) What's the name of that vinyl record vacuum attachment you were using in this video to help clean your records? :) Thank you! :)
Hi Mark. Good questions. As far as your first one goes, I always enter titles at the bottom, then hit the sort option, and it puts it in alphabetical order automatically. To answer your second question, it's the Vinyl Vac. They sent me one for review awhile back. Here's the link to that vid: th-cam.com/video/UqFFhwh1Sgw/w-d-xo.html
Cheers,
Frank
New or used differently run the record threw spin clean. I find new LPs are quite dirty straight out of the pressing plant. I have found finger prints on a brand new record! I learned my lesson,don't play new album without cleaning it first.
I completely agree.... new records can come filthy, and a clean can make all the difference.
Cheers
Frank
can you recommend antistatic brush
Pretty much the same. But catalog using Discogs and collectoz.
Check to see if it is warped!
Wax is static. 1st thing I do is look to see what it's worth. And like the 4 Chessmen 45 I found today isn't valuable in the condition, but will get at least a paper sleeve It'd be over 300 if I had the cover :(
Good point. When buying used vinyl I always check value on Discogs, just to know what I'm dealing with. For new vinyl, I don't often check, but I probably should.
Cheers man
Frank
I have been using collectorz database for a couple of years now. I find it fantastic..i was thinking of starting to use discogs but I'd would be too time consuming. so I will just try to use it for some.of.the things here or there
I'm not familiar with this database Gil. Why did you choose this one?
Frank
years ago it was called cd collectorz and i had an older version of it that my buddy gave me. over the years i Just got comfortable using it and then they upgraded the software to music collectorz and you could add different format types of music. I like for videogames and comic books and so forth.. so I got the movie one and the music one..
sorry if my words are a little messes up. I just had surgery on my leg and on tripping on morphine in the hospital as I type this. great channel to pass the time by the way :)
Yikes! Hope you are feeling better soon buddy!
it's ironic cause I just healed from my left hand carpal tunnel went to work for 2 days and then fell down the stairs yesterday I.such a klutz. so so.much deeè3kamk
If it's a plain sleeve like that, even though it is black, why not slide it back into the actual cover? You're never really gonna need to get it out, after all. It's not like one of the ones with art or a tracklist on it.
If it's used : dish soap bath/rinse, wood glue, Gruv Glide. If it's new : just Gruv Glide.
I gotta try Gruv Guide. I hear good things! Thanks for the comment.
Frank
Channel 33 RPM I like it a lot. It completely gets rid of static, and puts a super slick coating on the record that virtually eliminates pops and ticks, and minimizes wear on both the vinyl, and the stylus - kinda like playing the record wet, but less messy, and waaaaaaay less dangerous. The record needs to be as clean as possible for best results, it is not a cleaner.
Dude, you couldn't have picked a better album to go with, Lucifer are amazing! Now, hurry up and go get Lucifer II and Lucifer III if you haven't done so already.. oh, and I don't go that far when I get a new album, take the shrink wrap off, put it into a plastic sleeve, and always use a vinyl brush before playing.. is enough for me.
Yes, have them all.
a time saver is to use the zero stat first before a wet clean
Good tip.
Thoroughly cataloging your ongoing collection on Excel is pretty wise, especially for insurance purposes.
Funny you mention this... I started cataloging my records years ago at my wife's suggestion... for insurance purposes. That said, I still need to get a special rider for them.
Thanks for the comment
Frank
Where did you get your vinyl vac and how much? Where do you get your record sleeves
Bass Players Guild Ebay. Vinyl vac homepage. Mobile fidelity h8mepage.
I saw you have 1105 records in your excel 👍
Hey dude, I have several albums with a minor warp. Still playable but the warp bothers me. Do you suggest a "record clamp" or
a "vinyl flattner"? Whats the difference? Thanks!
I've never tried a vinyl flatter, but it's basically the equalivant of placing a record between two pieces of plexiglass and applying some mild heat. A record clamp is a clamp that fastens your record to the centre spindle off your turntable. Hope this helps.
Frank
Thanks Frank.
I'm following a very similar method, Frank. Hahahah, last time the database started with ABBA. Now it ends with WHAM...what is happening :) Cheers. /Paul
My VC cred is taking a serious beating... :)
Frank
Double albums?
I clean it and then play it
i totally had a record warp due to shrinkage
I do cassettes so I buy, open, listen
World wide shipping on T-Shirts? Will they ship to a APO address now?
Mike in Germany
Hi Mike... good to hear from you, and good point... Unfortunately, still no APO. Also no shipping to Canada's northern territories (not related to you, I know, but for anyone this may affect).
It's a weird glitch in the system, but I think it's related to the fact these goes out via courier.
Cheers!
Frank
Yeah, I thought it was still the same. I have a forwarding address in the States, but I have to pay a charge for it and shipping also from there to me. Probaly better to just order the T-Shirts to my German address.
Anyways, I always clean my new Records before playing them the first time also.
Order placed!!
Thanks Mike! I will process this tonight, and throw in a bonus for the inconvenience (and because you are military). I appreciate the support.
Cheers
Frank
I use discogs since it DOESN'T list the price that I paid. I got the record, and that's all anyone needs to know!
True enough. I like to know what I paid, just for my own info, but obviously everyone has a different idea.
Thanks for the comment
Frank
Your theme sounds like it was sang by Trey Parker.
Pound beers and listen to the record
Two of my favorite things....
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\m/ \m/ Checked out Lucifer just for S&G. - kinda great; like a female fronted Black Sabbath.
Yes, good description. Sorta Vol 4 to Sabotage-era Sabbath, with female vocals. She's really good too. I really dig the band, though I find the name to be a bit of a throwaway...
Hi my name is Jeff
Hello Jeff
michal_J its.... ma name a jef.
Do you have any hiphop vinyls?
Not really... closest I come is Beastie Boys and older Kid Rock...
im gonna miss this room :{
Me too!!! I've got a few more episodes pre-recorded from this music room... and if I have time I'll do another. At the same time, I'm also excited to see what comes next. Bigger and better? Fingers crossed.
Frank
@@Channel33RPM New Room? Are moving or just changing rooms in the same house?
I guess you waited until 4 months after your actual 33rd birthday to celebrate! Y'know, 4 months = a third of a year! Get it? 33-and-a-third! LOL
:)
Yeah, thought you'd like that! You have two more "revolutionary" ages to attain, 45 and the dizzying 78! LOL
Genre: 25$ :D
Wtf