THE 5 RULES OF VERMINTIDE! - Vermintide 2 Beginner's Guide
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Vermintide is a punishing games for those who don't know their true aims! I shall attempt to enlighten those who are unsure of there ways! This guide will give you the 5 most fundamental rules for slaying rats and northmen alike.
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Nice to see this old classic get some views 4 years on with the Vermintide 2 free week :D
I think it holds up pretty well but I definitely know more about the game now than I did then. If you find the video too long, don't forget you can watch at x2 speed and probably take it in.
I'm supremely excited to do one of these for Darktide soon! For the Emprah!
Last night, I was desperately searching for this video, on Milkandcookies' channel of all places! Naturally, I got sad and thought it was deleted. Then, lo and behold, i re-found it here by sheer chance!
agree. once, i am used to be 300 hrs player in 2019.
Today, i have been back here to check it (and from announce of DarkTide).
i got surprised Vermintide 2 is still epic , been well updated so far.
I'm at like 1000 hour mark and still view it from time to time, and show it to everyone, who I recommend this get to. Real classic
didn't expect to learn an actual working TH-cam speedrunning technique here, nice thanks lol
Should have been "5 rules of Vermintide, or 4, doesn't matter"
this legit made me LOL
took me a second, but then I remembered XD
Very much ha ha
Hilarious
Ya boi Kruber pointing out that one of the heroes plays like cards with loher while everyone else commits genocide
Rule #1: they're always ALWAYS behind you.
Ted Logan I thought Rule No. 1 was “Cardio.”
Just kidding. You’re totally right. The name of this game is head-on-a-swivel.
Even if that were not when u just turned around.
If you're just standing around waiting for something, be blocking. Block when you're riding elevators, block when your back's to a wall, just block. Never trust the engine not to let a skavenslave silently sneak through a hole in spacetime to get a jab in on you.
@@Xick damn warpstone technology
If you're quick enough, you can always dodge those. There's always a music sting that builds the moment they wind up their weapon to attack, so unless you're wading into melee and can't hear it, you can always tell when they're trying to stab you in the back. The key, at that point, is good reflexes
I like the story of the greedy elf and the caring dwarf, will tell my children when they go to bed.
Haha
but I would also explain to them that the elf were caring a grimm very important item :D
Don't forget the part where the elf is a "piece of shit". It's very important
Of course it would be an elf player
Hahah
Just pointing out, if you come across a healing/resupply spot and there is going to be extra health left over and no way to get back. The people with the least amount of health should heal, even if everyone is already healthy.
Also, if you have white health, healing with a medkit turns that into green health along with the amount it always heals. So using a medkit right after going down is sometimes smarter then waiting for finding more health before healing.
And a healing draught always heals the same amounts of health, regardless of your white health and resets your white health.
"Ammo is a finite resource and you will run out!"
Wastalker: "No, no I won't."
me, an unchained :
What is ammo?
@@simcool11 Laughs In Ironbreaker with Flamethrower
Was talker ?
Seinna , what the hell is ammo not good for me any takers
>laughs in bright wizard
Regarding point 4: You are a foot knight with 150 base health and possibly more between items and build, and a medical kit would restore 80% of your health, thus giving you back 120 health minimum compared to 75 health with the potion. Thus, the elf's decision to use a medical kit on you was more efficient than letting you use a potion when it would restore less health, especially if the elf was planning to grab the tome a short distance ahead. (Tomes occupy the healing item slot).
Its always annoying when your constantly watching some dudes back then a horde comes and he abandons you to get surrounded and bummed by chaos warriors.
Bummed by Chaos Warriors! Lol. Dry bummed.
@@faranglao8006 "dry docking"
This video should be required material!
0:09 "In this verminguide..."
I see what you did there.
Nice Beginners guide, but I have to disagree with sparing health until you get downed. On Champion or Legend you can die quite quick once on the ground. More important even: Your teammates have to rush to your saving and interrupt what they are doing. A lot of times a downed player is the begin of the end because all the others rush to help and no one is controlling the horde anymore, looks out for specials etc.
Indeed. True enough. But it's really a situational judgement call I suppose. Depends how well and tight your team is playing. I think playing conservative with the healing is always wise though.
Depends on what character you are tbh. If you're playing a character that gets a lot of temp hp in a short amount of time, you really should'nt be using them. as pyromancer or ws, u get temp hp in like 0.5 secs before wave even comes close to melee. Plus if you're getting hit by anything other than bosses or specials, odds are you'll get hit again. So why waste a potion when u can waste temp hp :)
Also as a beginners guide i doubt champ and legend are on the table for most players.
@@brandonpeters1981 4th day playing this game and im already on legend, it very much is on the table lol
Sadar also important, never waste healing. As in, if there‘s healing use it before you leave it. Got into a lot of bad situations with idiots who left healing behind even though they were below 70% health...
Would also add that as soon as possible people go and mess about with their settings if they haven't done so already, as adjusting Player Outlines to 'Always On' and not just 'On', rebinding dodge and jump so they're on different keys, adjusting Field Of View (mine's personally set to 95 atm) help make things easier.
Additionally, it's an opinion of mine that being too lax with your healing draughts can also cause issue, as I've seen some games spiral downwards because one person went down and another died trying to panic revive them in some fashion. Deal with as necessary. Heal when things happen might be a good idea, when a horde hits, a boss, an ambush before or after the first wave, just in any situation that might otherwise leave you too overwhelmed to heal. Addressed in the video, but would like to emphasize.
Lastly, note that skaven packmasters/hookrats can be dodged in the same way as a gutter runner, and in fact in my opinion easier to dodge, same for the Chaos Lifeleech. By a step to the side during the grab action. Further, that Ratling Gunners target one person only per volley, so if it's aiming at you, maybe try to step back and let an ally past you to shoot instead of trying to outgun the ratling.
wow i didn't know about the outlines, just changed it now thanks
Played Vermintide 1 years ago, just started into 2 recently. Even several years on, this guide is exactly whats needed to get the basic fundamentals of tactics, and how the game mechanics work, to give you a leg up on getting started.
"only you care about your scoreboard"
Also me: Constantly getting kicked because im new and dont do much.
Rule 4, if everyone has good health, and healing items, and there's four or five healing items, and there's a drop, where you can't get back up, and you have half health, I say just fill up your health, as you won't be able to head back to it.
At dropdowns where a single special can pounce a slow teammate, if you have dropped down, check to see if a well-placed grenade or your ultimate can save your teammate. It's better to dish out some friendly fire from a grenade or to have a teammate use their ultimate too early than to have a teammate spend forever on a packmaster's pole waiting to die and respawn.
Absolutely brilliant video. The length almost dissuaded me from watching, but literally every single tip here is valuable. Thank you for this. 👍
"dont waste resources."
but the example location youve given that theres no going back to retrieve those health items. this game is often giving health items (recruit difficulty) when we're about to go to lower level & point of no return of a map. if u skip those u r wasting resources too
+1
Good guide! Thanks for your efforts, Zerkovich.
I'll also add a pointer for new players. Communicate! If you need help, speak up. If there's a resource that someone else needs point it out. If a team mate is falling behind or goes down tell the team so they'll know to stop moving forward and allow recovery of the ailing team mate. Communication makes all the difference between a fun successful run or a frustrating total team kill.
This is an excellent guide, not just for Vermintide 2, but Vermintide 1 as well.
This co-op Skyrim-like deadpool-like game surprisingly have a deep strategy in it about RPG and Survival.. wow.
Even now, after the auto-block while reviving has been patched into the game, I will still recommend holding down the block key while reviving.
Auto-blocking stops the moment the revive process ends, meaning your character goes back to neutral state. Even if you press the block button right after, the delay between neutral to blocking may allow attacks to slip through. Especially if you are surrounded by enemies and some may already have entered into their attack animations.
I'm still relatively new to higher difficulties, have like 50 hours of play on steam. Just started dipping my toes into champion. What really helped me learn why pushing was so useful was when I finally tried using shield + weapons. For the longest time I didnt quite understand what the point to pushing was, I'd have a 1 or 2 handed sword, and figured why would I push that does no damage and takes time away from swinging when I could be dealing damage? Once I got a shield + axe It really clicked with me to be able to push in between swings in order to open up the horde and give you breathing room. It's now becoming second nature.
17:40 - happens almost every game :D
Pro tips for a new recruit. Looking forward to getting into this!
Finished everything on legend and playing cata for a few months now, let me know if you have any questions!
Also another rule I’d like to point out; know you’re class. Understand the difference not only between the play style each character uses, but also the different classes they bring. A Handmaiden might benefit more from a load out that’s different than what a or waystalker might bring, and they certainly plays differently from each other.
Carter Gates Agreed. One of the big problems facing new players is that the game doesn’t give ANY notes on what ROLES the various classes and sub-classes should be doing.
E.g. Elf - special spotter & sniper or crowd control, dwarf - crowd control, etc. It is kind of implied via the weapons but doesn’t go far enough.
So you end up with noobs running around, constantly drawing aggro., not using block, not tagging monsters, not understanding choke points, being clueless about situational awareness, and then complaining the game is too hard when the team wipes because they don’t know how to work together, don’t understand who should be doing what, and how to best augment the team instead of chasing stats.
Playing with a private group of friends who consistently play the same (sub)class makes it MUCH easier to play and analyze what we did wrong when we fail.
"know you are class"
Just starting my journey in this game. This was extremely useful. Well done!
I like that a lot of these is pretty much inherited wisdom from Left 4 Dead.
The instakill spots reminded me of that especially.
Thanks for a great video!
I would have rule #1 and #2 swapped, though: Team play is THE most important part.
Even skilled and geared players cannot handle some situations, due to the stun mechanics from Specials, that incapacitate you.
Exception to rule #4, about preserving & sparingly use of healing items:
Top up hp (fill and replenish) before a boss fight and "drop down".
As a new player in 2022 these are still incredibly useful fundamentals! Thank you! Subbed.
I like giving people potions over myself. Better to be nice to people so you know they'll take care of you too
11/10 video I thought in my head "I need a verminguide" and you said it
This is amazing content! Everything makes more sense now! Thank you!
My problem with waiting to use healing is that often it's the same fight that downs multiple people and sometimes you just lose with healing potions in your inventory
Thanks, these tips were super useful and have spared me quite some time!!!
Great guide, my guy! I played Vermintide 1 on PC. I’m looking to talk my kiddos into some non fortnite coop action on PS4 and if I’m successful this will be a great intro into the finer points of skaven stomping for them. Keep up the good work, peace
Ive played over 150 hours and this was still quite useful, thank you
Scary with such a close FOV! Immersive and scary :P
and classic and 3:30 to hit the mate instead of slaver, that happens to all of us :P
good thing i just followed the rest of the players and try to help cause after watching this guide i realized i didn't know a lot about the game.
Remember as well, if you run back on your own looking for books or dice? You're opening up all the hoard points the rest of the team is past, and if you die or get pounced? Now what's left of that hoard is going to run after the rest of your team... If they're already facing a hoard? Everyone is in big trouble now
That’s like one of the best guides I have seen
Great guide! I actually figured some things out by my self surprisingly, but there was still a lot of useful info. Thx dude. (:
I wish this video was part of the intro to the game -without the possibility to skip it ;)
Grimmir
Brink had some really long tutorial videos like this. Watching them was the only way to unlock some gear, and rewarded the player with a lump of experience. I’ve always wondered why all games don’t do the same.
It's pretty stupid if you want to figure things out on your own.
Its satisfying dodging the minotaur charging attack
9:06 I think the one with selfish prongs is better for no other reason then I'd think it would make a hilarious youtube video
Excellent advice, well thought out and presented. Cheers, Dawri!
Thnx for the tips! Im kinda New and stopped playing couse it was to hard when i came further in the game
Exe sword is really the most satisfying weapon to play with imo. Also besides the halberd its the most useful one for kruber
23:07 and you've got yourself a *Exotic* Weapon.
Legendary weapon are *red*. You can find them inside following chests:
- Commendation Chest
- General chest on champion difficulty
- Emperor chest on champion difficulty
- Peasant vault on legend difficulty
- Commoner vault on legend difficulty
- Merchant vault on legend difficulty
- Soldier vault on legend difficulty
- General vault on legend difficulty
- Emperor vault on legend difficulty
Actually red weapons are veteran, not legendary
Also addition to rule#1: If you face an ogre, try to learn the ogre dance :) . And you can use your surroundings to slow down the attacking boss ( they are pretty bad at going around stuff)
I would just like mention that incendiary bombs can be useful against bosses if you have the shrapnel trinket.
I just played my first few maps on legend and was surprised how helpful people actually were.
Correction, first rule of Vermintide, watch the Zerkovich guide.
THIS VIDEO RIGHT HERE! I can't tell you how many times i have to type in chat and explain exactly what this video says to my team mates..."Stay together, or at least in pairs!" -> People still do not understand this simple common sense concept!
The only rule for Vermintide Multiplayer, "Never assume your quickplay teammates are there to help you. They can, and WILL, leave your ass behind"
I feel the potion greed thing is more so people not being observant than intentional
"Hammers can't penetrate armor"
my brain cant process what i just heard.
Thanks for the informative video my man! I'm just getting into this great game
This video was so helpful, thank you! You've got another subscriber now
1. TEAMWORK 2. teamwork 3. Know your weapon 4. Teamwork 5. Know the enemy
I always give healing items to my team sighting the protection of Sigmar for my actions, Sigmar protects the faithful.
I’m trying to get a enforcer 1st career Kruber as he enforces the line with his career skill knocking enemies and healing friendlies with a shield and long sword for more crowd control and stun then I have a reacting to kill elites easily
Lol you sound like the rock dude from thor ragnarok
I get that a lot... haha
@@Zerkovich yeah I bet haha, thanks for the guide though, it helped a lot
Amazing guide, everything is useful and well synthesized !
Team Players are for Lumberfoots.
shut it elf
I absolutely loved this video. Well done.
Weapons have certain roles. Me playing Bardin with his 2 handed hammer that is Ap, shield breaking, stagger, cc, and has some reach
The ultimate edition is currently on sale for less than 15 bucks
My four rules or five, doesn't matter.
1) Are they crowd controlled?
Yes = Kill
No = Crowd Control
2) Are they armored/shielded/large?
Yes = Aim for the head
No = Kill mobs in your circle left or right.
3) Are your allies in trouble?
Yes = Help them asap
No = Save resources for when they are
4) Are you confused?
Yes = Follow the group
No = Lead the group
5) Are your allies stupid?
Yes = Stupidity is inevitable, keep going.
No = Keep on going until allies are stupid.
Perfect guide, you only forgot 2 things: if you press attack while defend u can make a difensive attack
And for istant kill an flame rat u must shoot at the tank on his back
good guide Bro , a lot of people should watch it before playing ^^.
this game looks SO GOOD on PC! it just came out in ps4 like last month, December 20 something. I wish it looked this good.
Dodge is not unlimited: weapons have an unseen pool for how many dodges you can use until the speed and distance dwindle to nothing within a short period of time. It then “refills” to optimum dodging after a few seconds of not dodging.
Rule #2, arguably the most important rule on higher difficulties, is the one that is forgotten the most.
This game is more serious than I anticipated. I played for the first time today and while I died several times, I was really helpful with my team and helped out when they were getting overwhelmed. We won the game but they kicked me out after we got back to the lobby. I’m guessing it’s because I died so much and had the lowest kill score. Tough crowd.
“Along comes the greedy elf, who little did we know, is a motherfucker”😂😂😂
A year and a half later, and this is still the best Vermintide 2 guides on TH-cam. Would you be interested in doing one for the new Weave system?
Very nice Kruti.
Thanks for this, newbies appreciate it
8:28 can we just appreciate kruber's name
good guide Zerkovich, from what i see in the comments many people have already voiced opinions on things like how you mentioned holding health till you absolutely need it or what not, or about the Dodge thing. '
But I myself wish ask you of something. Do you plan on making videos for the Weapons and Classes in Vermintide 2? It would be awesome if you did as there are some people who think that there is no reason to carry the handgun on Ironbreaker Bardin, or his hammer and shield, or Kruber's Great sword or his repeater gun, and many many other weapons. As well as one i've heard that went something like "there is no reason to bring a Ranger Bardin" or "...Whitch Hunter" or "...Battle Wizard" and would like to see you talk about these classes and weapons. I feel you'd be the one able to say at least something good about any weapon or class, similar to how you've done so with your unit guides in Total Warhammer, where you mentioned how even the units that could be simply trash are useful.
Thanks man. I don't think I'll be doing anymore Guide stuff for Vermintide. But yeah, it's funny how people think certain things don't work. Chances are they're just parroting something they've read rather than actually learning how to use the weapon or character they're moaning about. I use Bardin with Handgun all the time and always come away with the most special kills.
Very useful, thanks!
Rule number 4# is situational for me I can't really tell you when to use it or conserve it, if your a begginer id try to remember this rule as much as possible.
Great video , funny and informative :)
Greedy Elf went by the rule "better to have it and not need it" and caring Dwarf was a noob, he could have had it and not need it too, but he ignored the rules. There is a rule saying "People are going to die with unused health potion at hand"
People arr gonna die,if their teammates would die 1st
@@SilverWF I was just quoting what the reviewer said. It's his contradiction not mine. It's "either/or", not both. He then did both.
Really helpful, cheers!
The slow motion really showcases how fun the combat is, but seriously why is it always kirillian players who focus on kills and drop all the time
"The team can stay behind me an deal damage" as Kerillian runs past you.
I think there is a bigger problem with people who try to get many kills. It's not just about the scoreboard since everyone has the ability to gain temporary health from kills and that means kills are suddenly very useful if you need health. That can have people compete for kills more than the scoreboard.
I love the the way you can get loads of temporary health from a hoard but I can't deny how it might tempt people to go for more kills than they mabye should.
I even decided to not use that talent with Ironbreaker since I want to focus on blocking and crowd control and that means I should not focus on getting kills.
Most damage taken, woohoo no one else ever has that one circled at the end. I always get that one. Fuck ya.
"Incendiary bombs are useless against bosses..." except they provide the same knock-back as a regular bomb. Staggering any boss can be vitally useful when trying to protect your more delicate teammates on higher difficulties, and is ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL when dealing with Chaos Spawn, who can restore all their health by munching on your team-mates. The ONLY way to stop the chaos spawn from regaining its health when it captures a teammate is with a knockback capable of staggering a boss, and the only knockbacks capable of staggering bosses are a few of the ultimates, and any bombs, including incendiary.
It’s so funny I was siting for left 4 dead 3 but this is practically it and I love it
Good video. Thanks!
It's generally good for beginners, yes, but you have to keep in mind some of this won't apply to legend+, and most players will try that at some point. So this is my mentality of above champion.
Don't waste resources, sure, but the second you're down because of that 1 health (perfect gas globe) there are only 3 players fighting, or even less because someone is trying to get to you to get you back up, and they might fail at doing so. It's okay to get hit, but it's not okay to go down. Half bar with temporary hp on hits is enough (legend and cataclysm has so many enemies you just want temp hp on hitting multiple enemies). Unless you're the zealot. Do not heal the zealot. Leave in shame if you join as a Kerillian with team regen if there is a zealot. Do not heal next to the zealot if you have the 20% heal share. And pray to Sigmar that said zealot can actually play.
Also note that draughts heal for flat 75 hp, while healer's tools for 75% *missing* health (and you can heal someone else for normal health even if they have the Natural Bond)
Bomb damage doesn't matter that much versus bosses. It's the stagger you want. Bombs + certain skills to keep the boss flailing about. Or to just push it off the ledge for instant kills. Easier with battle wizard Sienna and two ulti uses. But in general only defending while being the target is the go-to. Saving concentration potion for merc or footman kruber/ shade kerillian/bounty hunter salty/battle wizard sienna is a good practice.
The choice of weapon... Most players join via quickplay because of the bonus for chests, which makes it impossible to know what weapons other players use. You might be doomed from the start. Which is probably why the usual choice is whatever you know you can progress with as if you were going solo. Or whichever weapon you know the most. Picking your fights because of the weapon is better than charging into the horde anyways.
Now, this is just my take on how to play on higher difficulties, I managed to complete the entire content on cataclysm. I've seen people play like gods, but not many and I'm not one of them. You will get hit, even more so if you're not the host. 100 ping is enough to throw off your fighting. Especially when beastmen's horns have just as much reach as your spear. Going down usually means death.
And always expect them spawn behind you.
Great video man. So I have a question.
Is there any way to reset my characters back to level 1?
personally i'll pick the first skill on sienna that shares 20% of healing with close by allies, even if I ain't playing with friends I mite as well heal people who are near me, cause I feel like being nice.. mostly cause i at times burn my own team with fire.. ^^' eheh.. heh
ps: crowd control defence skills are best, cause nothing beats the smell of burning skaven BBQ :3
11:44 listen butter .. butah
Rule 0: playing with friends using Discord helps immensely and it is way more fun.
when it coms to hp bar. thats why i love playing as zelot. hes ment to hev low hp ;).
If someone is one hit away from downing, healing is imo important. If the schmuck that doesn't heal them self they are potentially squandering their effectiveness in conflict when they go down. To me these people that think it's ok to go down in the middle of a fight aren't fun to play with as they make the game more difficult than it needs to be. Picking someone up isn't immediate and requires another character to waste time and focus which should be on the immediate danger. That elf that patched you up was doing a good thing.
I would like to ask some things, mainly why is your fov so low, what difficulty are you playing on and why use shields? They have slow speed low dodge distance, low damage and armor pen and the push / block isn't even the best of any weapon. I would also like to know when you stream / play, it would be nice to watch / play a few games.
I don't like ridiculous FOVs. I'd rather work a little harder than play through a fish eye lens.
I mostly play on Champion at the moment but a lot of this video is captured in Veteran. Because Champion runs get cut short way too often haha. Not great for capturing footage for a video.
I enjoy the tank role of Shields.
I usually stream Friday or Saturday evenings UK time.
Thanks for the answers
FoV is setted that way as standard, turning it higher looks terrible..
it is good to have one shield user as it does a couple things no other weapon can do: A: most important, they can actually shove elite enemies like stormvermin and brutes other weapons cannot do that reliably. B: Their push/block angle can be increased to beyond your FOV meaning they have insane CC and block great for clutch revives while surrounded. C: Their block consumes less stamina meaning they can take much more abuse, remember every hit you block is a hit that did no damage to you or your team.