because some (like me) who came back to the game thought it would work like how it did before where even if you didnt renew you would keep the things you paid for
@ well it does if you buy the crew after 14 days have passed upon buying the Battle Pass. Those fourteen days matter. If you buy it within, you get refunded but your pass will now be dependent on your crew subscription. If you buy it after fourteen days, you will NOT get a refund but your Pass will stay after the crew expires.
Not complicated at all. Ppl just don’t know how to read and then blame epic for scamming them. But yes, for younger kids, I get why they could be some confusion.
@@Exo-XenI don’t like how epic is doing this but that is literally how a subscription works. For example, you lose access to Netflix if you don’t renew or “pay more”
I don’t like this change because not everyone looks at the patch notes, they just play the game and if this happens to them they’ll be confused and feel like they got scammed
@@TyTy-hx9fw The current system is dumber, so just take it. Would you rather lose access to EVERYTHING when your subscription runs out, or would you rather lose the 3 passes for the other gamemodes but keep your main one?
I’ve been saying this, ever since the departure of Donald Mustard, Fortnite has been nothing but greedy. It’s like they seem what NBA2k is getting away with and both have the same issue, the community buys everything they’re selling! Lego sets, Cars, music instruments, and now sneakers?! That’s not even counting bringing back Skins no one ever thought would ever come back. It don’t matter though because people will still buy these things. Next they’ll be selling hats or outfits to put on your skins. I’ve been playing since Chapter 1, I have just short of 1000 skins, I’ve never regretted buying any of those until now!
If they were so money hungry, then why did they only increase the battle pass by 50 vbucks? And how come they added the OG pass, Music Pass, AND LEGO pass for the crew and kept the crew pack at the SAME PRICE?
@ first off why’d they have to increase the battle pass at all? Secondly, who gives a shit about the Lego and music pass, I play Fort because of battle royale. They added all that other bs to make the crew pass seem like it’s more of a deal. Why do I have to keep buying the crew pass if I want to finish the battle passes I already bought? Why do you need sneakers for your characters? They’re just adding more and more bs to the game for people to buy. They only brought back Fort OG because their player base was dropping.
@@edwardnigma4087 1. 50 vbucks is meaningless. Stop crying. 2. People care about the skin from the music/lego pass. It ain’t that complicated. Those skins would be 1500 in the item shop. It’s a great deal. 3. Epic Games didn’t have to add the extra passes and could’ve made everyone have to buy them separately if they wanted the cosmetics, which costs more money. It isn’t that hard to comprehend. 4. Epic Games could have easily increased the price of the crew pack after adding 3 more passes, but they didn’t. You’re just ungrateful. 5. By using your brain(if you have one), you could just buy the crew pack after you reach level 200 so you can claim everything instantly and not have to cry and complain. 6. You don’t “need” shoes for your skins. You’re just complaining to complain. 7. Maybe the brought back OG because kids like you have been whining for it to return every single day since late 2019? Y’all always bring up “players dropping” yet here we are with this game still very much alive after 7 years. And many of those years Chapter 1 wasn’t here.
This is why I wait until the last couple days to buy the battle pass or crew pass. I make sure I am high enough level to get all the pass rewards I want before buying. On the crew pass I rarely buy it but when I do I try to time it to get 2 crew skins and then cancle it before my billing due date for the second month. So far I have purchased 3 crew passes and have 6 crew skins. I try to work the system instead of getting played myself!
@@brojoe44It just states until your next renewal date. Once your next bill date hits, the new Crew rules will apply, even if you stayed renewed from November
Did you not read his message? He said he had purchased the battle pass (purchased) Meaning he owns the battle pass but just because he owns the crew pass as well and then finally ended the crew pass, The game took his purchased battle pass away@@IamW4RL0RD
That's the strat. I'm rebuying mine right when the new Festival starts so I can start working on that, and immediately unlock everything from the current Lego and OG pass, and also start on OG 2 when that drops.
Yup but also make sure the secret skin is out the month you buy crew too, I’ve been lvl 200 for 3 weeks but I’m waiting for Godzilla to be available before buying
@@insertnamehere2022I got Crew within about 20 days of Godzilla skin (did this intentionally) so it gives me a week to complete the Godzilla quests. I, like the others, only bought it when I finished the pass
@SVV_KC Mhm, smart players will cheat the system not let the system cheat us Once Godzilla comes out I’ll get all 4 passes maxed out (aside from music pass because it’s about to refresh for Miku, but I’m confident I’ll max it before the end of January with all the quests I’ve saved)
This practice seems very scummy because they’re basically saying for you to keep a season with the crew pack you’re spending money not once but TWICE just to keep your battle pass progress across all the passes. This is the main reason why battle passes once purchased should NEVER expire.
2 reasons why i didnt get crew, the horrendous skins, and i already bought the battle pass 14 days before, so no reason to get it, maybe for miku but im going to feel like an idiot if i pay to not get any value
Basically the only time you should buy crew is if your at the very end of most your pass progress tracks, and that you time it to the end date of atleast one side pass so that you can get a second side pass free, as because of the current system you literally can't complete 2 main BPs with just one crew unless you spend the 1000 "extra" v-bucks, as the secret skin is always over a month late.
Why are people saying it’s a bad skin, I bought the crew a couple years ago then canceled and this month is the only month I’ve gotten it again. I like the skin quite a bit
I subscribed to the crew on November 28th and cancelled, got the bucks back and kept the battle pass because I had subscribed before the change to crew pass.
I completely disagree I believe a lot more worth it now because now I don't have to pay $40 for all of the battle passes against each one of these battle passes is literally 10 bucks each Festival Lego OG pass Battle pass On top of all of them you also get 1,000 v-bucks and a skin Any premium rewards you earn during your subscription time you keep So if you work hard at it you can complete all of the battle passes in one month if you work hard enough Or you just keep on the subscription honestly I believe it's a whole lot more worth it now Here's just some quick math Four passes 40 bucks 1,000 v-bucks equivalent to about $9 usa a skin that's equivalent to about 1500 v-bucks which in US dollar terms would be around $18 40+9+18=67 $ Of course this is if you complete all of them which most of us won't but in general you're still saving more money this way
Gamers need to learn how to read rather than skip cutscenes/dialogue because they won't realise there is very important info + this is the 1st time they are doing this so it's probably still being tested
4:30 I can agree with the rest but this is just stupid... Like it should be that if you bought a pass and then subscribe to the crew at any point in time of that season, you should get your v-bucks back
Definitely knew about this, but I guess I didn’t read the part where even if I bought the battle pass with my own vbucks, when I get the crew they would refund those vbucks I spent and I’ll still lose my pass. Thankfully finished all the battle passes but I’ll have to get some more vbucks and get the battle pass again when Godzilla releases
It's not complicated but it is shady regardless. It shouldn't take your pass away just because of the crew crap, it's just a shady as heck business practice.
It is how all subscriptions work? You shouldn't be privy to the rewards for the subscription if you aren't actively paying for it. It is like saying "Yes I stopped paying my Netflix subscription, but you should let me finish up this show first before locking me out."
@cupoftea3499 if you bought the battle pass, then later on bought the crew, and then your crew subscription cancelled, you should keep the battle pass you paid for. As an example from another gaming subscription: xbox game pass. If you buy a game thats on game pass, then subscribe to xbox gamepass, and it cancels later on, you still keep the game you paid for.
Thanks for posting about this tabor. Ill be honest i already knew about most of that info but the part about keeping your battle pass and not getting 1000 vbucks back vs losing the pass but getting the vbucks back wasnt super clear to me. Lesson learned, use 1000 vbucks on the pass going forward (if i can) and dont buy the crew pack within 14 days of buying the pass (if im not already subscribed to crew) lol. That way I'll at least be able to keep access to whatever battle pass i used the vbucks on (until it ends, that is).
This is why i bought crew before chapter 6. Then canceled They *did* say if you bought crew before the new season it would stay with the old rules unless you renew it. My crew expired and i kept the pass
I did that too but weirdly received the January crew and also 1K vbucks today even though I haven't resubscribed and it expired on 1st Jan. I did lose access to everything else besides the battlepass and the festival pass.
@@TsubasaAnimationssomething similar has happened to me also where i got the 1000 vbucks and skins for 4 months after i lost the crew, i had linked a card to the crew but didnt cancel, and since the card no longer had enough balance to maintain the subscription, it stayed as if i had it until 4 months after when it finally cancelled my subscription on its own, i was surprised as i had gained 4 crew skins total and a total of 4k vbucks plus the battle pass vbucks from each season
i dont know if sonething similar can still be done if your card is simply declined after the first charge and you keep thecc bc rew for a while or if their new “policies” dont adhere to this. I would have to try it with an alt account or something
Well, I can see why people are confused. For like the past 4 1/2 years you bought the crew you got the battle pass for the entire duration of the season. So they may have just thought it was the same as it previously was.
"Fortnite players are LOSING their Battle Pass, but WHY?" BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T READ THE UPDATED TERMS OF FORTNITE CREW YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN MORE CAREFUL WITH YOUR MONEY
Moral of the story is apparently fortnite players can't read. And no, its not shady if its public knowledge. Epic made this well known in the blog. Why are little childrem buying battlepassses and crew? Where are their parents?
Something that I found interesting is that they made the announcement of the changes prior before Chapter 6 began. Which I fully expected to lose my Chapter 6 Battle Pass, since my crew pass was set to expire 5 days after Chapter 6 launched. The odd part is that even though my crew pass expired, I was still able to keep the Chapter 6 Season 1 Battle Pass regardless of the crew pass expiring and never renewed. So I wonder if they didn't officially change the way it functions until a later date?
You’re so glad for being ignorant? Epic Games added the OG pass, Music Pass, AND LEGO pass for the crew and kept the crew pack at the SAME PRICE. They also dedicated a blogpost and FAQs to this exact system. So NOBODY should be confused and NOBODY should be mad because the crew pack is the same price but has more stuff and NOBODY should say Epic Games are shady when this is LITERALLY HOW SUBSCRIPTIONS WORK.
I think even some people are trying to get around paying ( loophole) but epic has got things like that covered. You don’t get it if you didn’t pay for it ( you got refunded!) For kids, get your parents to explain it to you so you understand how it works
This months crewpass was awesome! It's not shady really, just stopping people from getting two battlepasses on one month of crew pass. Just eliminating loop holes and loss of equity.
Unless you want the Lego and Festival passes, don't even bother with Crew. It's 11.99 compared to just 8.99 for the BP by itself. If you do want the other passes, then level up like normal until everything is earned, then buy Crew to unlock them all at once, that way you're not at risk of running out of time to unlock everything thus losing access to the rewards. Epic has been nerfing XP month after month over the last year which makes it pretty tough to unlock everything in 1 month unless you never leave your house. Even better strategy is to wait until the current Crew skin is about to change to the next Crew skin and then buy the Crew pass, that way you get 2 skins for the price of 1 (plus the rewards from the other passes if you've leveled up enough). Buying the Crew at the beginning of a season is one of the silliest things someone can do right now, unless they enjoy wasting money.
That 14 days time limit to subscribe does not seem fair. It's like they're pushing us to buy the crew. I'm pretty sure this feature did not exist before.
When you don't read the terms of use and complain abt it: Same ppl that freaked out when they refunded their accounts and didn't expect to lose their skins
If you are referring to the FTC lawsuit, you were allowed to keep the skins as the money paid out was given to the FTC to distribute by epic cause they lost, if people are losing skins from that, its illegal
@@Exo-Xenit kinda does change what you said because that means people chose to do that preemptively rather than choosing the easier option by using vbucks. What you said previously doesn't add that context.
The way I viewed it was like Netflix. Once you pay for a plan, you’re on it until your payment date. If you don’t pay, you lose access to everything, this is pretty much how it seems so I’m not sure why so many people are upset
The main point is that this is a shady practice, yes it was stated beforehand and I understood it same for a good amount of people but I don't think this is a good way for any company to do to their player base. They need to revert back to previously how it worked and not take people's passes midway if they already got it even through the Crew.
I think the best way to handle this is to just buy the crew pack if you want the battle pass and don't buy the crew pack if you don't want the battle pass.✅️
Cause crew is only 1 month. Just buy crew on February 20th, then you get 2k V bucks from Feb and March, 1500 from this pass and you got 1 month to grind and complete the next battle pass for 1500. You will miss out on the bonus skin next season but still 5k V bucks for $11 is crazy.
I feel like this change was so unnecessary and a very money hungry thing. I get there was a thing where people would cancel as soon as they got their crew. But they should have done a less shady solution. Yes the crewpack is a good deal if you're able to level up in time. But I think if you're slower leveling up it will cost more In the long run
It’s fair tbh, you’re getting access to all the passes and get to keep everything you unlock. That alone is value but you also get an exclusive skin and vbucks. Lots of value in being a crew member now, you just need to play the game to unlock your rewards before the end of the month
I will say I paid 1000 vbucks for my sons Battle Pass at start of Chapter 6. week later paid 1000 Vbucks for OG Pass. i would say 3-4 days later I decided it be cheaper in future to just get him Crew Pass. Bought Crew Pass and only got 1000 Vbucks back for 1 Battle Pass instead of 2000 for both Regular and OG Pass. so now my sons Batlle Passes are attached to Crew Pass but we were screwed out of 1000 Vbucks.
The best thing to do now is to wait till the next season is near and then subscribe to crew so you get the current pass rewards and then the next season pass as well.
That’s what I wanna try and do, I got Fortnite crew in December and finished all passes but I’m gonna buy it again on the last day of the season to get everything instantly and then get both February and march skins, people don’t see how much better this is
Sounds like a MASSIVE scam. If you buy the BP you buy the BP, there should be no reason to remove it. The 1000 vbucks have always been a bonus for buying Crew while already owning the BP. If this is true that they're stripping people off their purchased BP after running out of Crew then it is 100% a scam.
@@DenverHarward no it is a giant scam. They should not have brought every single pass like the festival pass the Lego pass or the OG pass to the crew pack.
I got mine frozen for a couple days last week. I pay for crew via PayPal, December was my first month and I guess there’s a day or two there where the payment has to go through. Also I didn’t get my Lego pass reimbursed, but it was more than 14 days so that makes sense.
You should. If you buy crew the 20th or 21th before the new season you will get season 1 battle pass THEN season 2, OG s2, OG s3, festival pass and 2 lego passes
Crew pass is actually a pretty good deal now. It used to be mid but they upgraded the benefits. $13 a month (taxes included) for every single pass, 1000 vbucks, and a skin. That's a pretty good deal
Probably wait until level 135 or 145 instead. Under the bonus levels there's 500 V-bucks that you can only get by being a higher level than 100 by like 20-40 levels.
I got my subscription last month and i was level 30 on December 1 it ended in December 15 and i hella grind Last day of my subscription I was level 111 and it let me keep it
Really. It means Fortnite need to be more consistent and maintain crew packs that people want to own. Every time there’s a second rate character people throw in the towel and say it’s not worth it. But now they’re holding your money and progress for ransom. Makes you want to boycott the company tbh..
This is why I stopped buying the crew pass when they announced the change because it's just annoying to keep track of whether you have the battle pass or not
I think one big part of this that no one is talking about is what it really means when they say, “one time v buck refund”. I’m willing to bet that anyone that didn’t get the 1000 v bucks had at some point in the past gotten the 950 v bucks when they had already had the pass and purchased the crew. (The way it was before the most recent change) That counts as the, “one time refund” people probably don’t realize this.
That was such a stupid idea, I think if you wasted your money on Fortnite crew you should be able to atleast be able to get the main battle pass and choose between Bonus or Secret Skins
For me, I have the crew and I understood it the way the crew is now I would say is actually beneficial for both sides. For me, I actually think the crew is actually the best it’s ever been having all the battle passes for how low it is in price. Now that’s not saying that I think things could be added or changed a little bit more. They’re always trying to figure out a way to make the crew even better than it is. For me, I think it’s the people that just click a button and not care about what the terms and service is and complain that they lost access to something without reading what it is actually doing
Because people don’t check the blog??? Not a hard concept to grasp. And people have a right to be mad as this is a very stupid change. You’re paying for the pass so you should be able to keep it
@SimaticS5 Yeah if you pay for the past individually I can see your argument, but if you're paying for a subscription service that gives you access to everything all at once it's pretty stupid of you to assume you get to keep all that stuff at once if you only make one payment. People don't have the right to be mad when Epic told them what was going to happen, it's a great deal if you pay attention to the fine print
It's actually quite straightforward if people read the FAQ. But perhaps a visual guide on how the Crew subscription works with the Battle Pass will help too. And I think most people who bought the BP and then bought the FNC later forgot that they received the 1,000 V-Bucks refund. Or they thought the 1000 V-Bucks was part of the monthly package.
My crew thing always says “your membership will become inactive on (the 7th of the next month).” It always says that and doesn’t go inactive. It’s weird
That's why the new strategy is to level up to the maximum level that the pass requires and then buy it on your own or with the crew to get all the rewards at once and not have this happen to you later.
This makes sense. Else you could pay once, get all of the passes, cancel. I wonder if you can still unlock premium rewards after Crew expiry if you have them ready to claim, though!
I only half-paid attention because I'm a crew member on auto renew and don't ever mess with it. I didn't see anything about having to manually renew it, so I went on to other things.
@ it’s not scummy. They literally made it so where the Crew gives you four passes plus a skin plus rocket league premium. The Crew is far more worth it, but they couldn’t just let it stay like it usually did, otherwise, people would keep paying every other month and Epic would end up losing out on money. You’re right, they want money, but this isn’t a scummy thing to do at all. People just gotta actually fucking pay attention to avoid this.
@IamW4RL0RD i think what yall arent getting is no one asked them to do it sure its more benefits now but whats the points of a subscription type battle pass if you dont reach 100 when the seasons over which they typically last 2-3 months youll be paying half or almost the same amount you wouldve payed in the first place they shouldve just kept it how it was before the one that most thought they were getting in the first place or put up a screen that told them what they were getting in before they bought it
Crew is worth it though, people are just mad that they can not cheat the system out. You get the BP, Festival Pass, Lego Pass, OG PASS, 1k Vbucks, Skin, Rocket League Pass, and more at times! for just $13 bro..and people need to learn how to read ngl
The change itself is scummy and people were right to criticize it at the time. Yes, other subscriptions function in a similar way, but a live-service game like Fortnite is not the same as a Netflix subscription. With Fortnite, you have to earn the value of what you pay for with the passes. Whereas with Netflix, you don’t have to earn anything to get the full value of the subscription.
What about consistent subscribers that don’t let it expire, I am a consistent user of the crew and on my billing date it denied me access in December but after the system realized I was still an active member of the crew I got everything back. Is this an event that sounds explainable or familiar to you Tabor?
Its a solid decision from Epic however I feel like at least the Original Battle Pass should be kept and just the other ones , the original Pass is basically the reason most people play and them locking it behind a monthly subscription is a btch move by Epic, fair for the other passes just not the Original one
You got this confused bro, you can buy the battle pass without the crew anyway. But you can now also get access to the battle pass through the crew pack but once it expires you won’t get the battle pass unless you already bought it.
I really don’t know how people didn’t know about this it was posted everywhere and advertised that way
I know right? They made it very clear.
Yep
because some (like me) who came back to the game thought it would work like how it did before where even if you didnt renew you would keep the things you paid for
@@hoopa4everThey even had a new TOS with that update which you HAD to accept to. You should read it or watch a 5 minute breakdown
@ well it does if you buy the crew after 14 days have passed upon buying the Battle Pass.
Those fourteen days matter. If you buy it within, you get refunded but your pass will now be dependent on your crew subscription.
If you buy it after fourteen days, you will NOT get a refund but your Pass will stay after the crew expires.
Not complicated at all. Ppl just don’t know how to read and then blame epic for scamming them. But yes, for younger kids, I get why they could be some confusion.
I personally don’t think you should be able to pay for something then get it taken away for not paying more.
@@Exo-XenI don’t like how epic is doing this but that is literally how a subscription works. For example, you lose access to Netflix if you don’t renew or “pay more”
@RhyzVids yeah but they only started doing it because it would give them more money. It was fine before
It's still absolutely stupid they charge way too much like bro I'm not SUBSCRIBING to fortnite like bro it's not Netflix
@@Sunny_851$13 isn’t charging “too much” for what they give you
I don’t like this change because not everyone looks at the patch notes, they just play the game and if this happens to them they’ll be confused and feel like they got scammed
this is stated on the page for each pass of youll lose it on this date at this time, so this argument doesnt work
@ your right mb i didn’t realize until you mentioned it
Tbh if people don’t read what you get into when buying a subscription, I feel like it’s their fault.
Oh no 😱 the consequences of their own actions
too bad, you're signing a legal agreement to these changes, you don't like them? don't play fortnite
Well that's why now I finish all my bp's before subscribing to the crewpack.
Work smarter not harder like my dad always said.
I feel they can at least let you keep their bp when you own the crew. And you should have to have a active subscription for the other passes
Agree further I am Oke with the terms 🤷🏾♂️
That’s dumb
@@TyTy-hx9fw The current system is dumber, so just take it.
Would you rather lose access to EVERYTHING when your subscription runs out, or would you rather lose the 3 passes for the other gamemodes but keep your main one?
@@Brainlessnessmy man stop with the excuses. You have 1 month to complete most of the bp which is easy to do even when your busy. Its fair imo
@ or grind before buying anything then buy it after? Literally what I said before ch6 even came out
I 100% expected that we would have videos about this because people don't understand 💀🙏
Love it when people can't read basic information that's in plain sight
Why do I still have the battle pass? It says my subscription ends on January 1st I bought the crew on December 26th i think🤔
@@Littlejack69420 it's on your billing date
@Littlejack69420 If u bought crew on the 26th of Dec then it'll be active till the 26th of January
@@Littlejack69420 It’s probably just a visual glitch, the same thing happened to me but it was fixed a little later.
I bought crew 1 week before December 1, and after it expired, i lost access to all the passes except the battle pass. So that's good 👍
Yeah because they stated the new rules will apply to people who bought the crew after December 1st 2024
Right
I'm glad it keeps the battlepass, but at the same time, why let us keep ONLY the battlepass?
My friend lost the battle pass before he could finish it😢
wait so did u already buy the battle pass or was it gifted through crew? just wondering is all.
I’ve been saying this, ever since the departure of Donald Mustard, Fortnite has been nothing but greedy. It’s like they seem what NBA2k is getting away with and both have the same issue, the community buys everything they’re selling! Lego sets, Cars, music instruments, and now sneakers?! That’s not even counting bringing back Skins no one ever thought would ever come back. It don’t matter though because people will still buy these things. Next they’ll be selling hats or outfits to put on your skins. I’ve been playing since Chapter 1, I have just short of 1000 skins, I’ve never regretted buying any of those until now!
If they were so money hungry, then why did they only increase the battle pass by 50 vbucks? And how come they added the OG pass, Music Pass, AND LEGO pass for the crew and kept the crew pack at the SAME PRICE?
@ first off why’d they have to increase the battle pass at all? Secondly, who gives a shit about the Lego and music pass, I play Fort because of battle royale. They added all that other bs to make the crew pass seem like it’s more of a deal. Why do I have to keep buying the crew pass if I want to finish the battle passes I already bought? Why do you need sneakers for your characters? They’re just adding more and more bs to the game for people to buy. They only brought back Fort OG because their player base was dropping.
@@edwardnigma4087
1. 50 vbucks is meaningless. Stop crying.
2. People care about the skin from the music/lego pass. It ain’t that complicated. Those skins would be 1500 in the item shop. It’s a great deal.
3. Epic Games didn’t have to add the extra passes and could’ve made everyone have to buy them separately if they wanted the cosmetics, which costs more money. It isn’t that hard to comprehend.
4. Epic Games could have easily increased the price of the crew pack after adding 3 more passes, but they didn’t. You’re just ungrateful.
5. By using your brain(if you have one), you could just buy the crew pack after you reach level 200 so you can claim everything instantly and not have to cry and complain.
6. You don’t “need” shoes for your skins. You’re just complaining to complain.
7. Maybe the brought back OG because kids like you have been whining for it to return every single day since late 2019? Y’all always bring up “players dropping” yet here we are with this game still very much alive after 7 years. And many of those years Chapter 1 wasn’t here.
This is why I wait until the last couple days to buy the battle pass or crew pass. I make sure I am high enough level to get all the pass rewards I want before buying. On the crew pass I rarely buy it but when I do I try to time it to get 2 crew skins and then cancle it before my billing due date for the second month. So far I have purchased 3 crew passes and have 6 crew skins. I try to work the system instead of getting played myself!
People don’t know how to read past the first sentence
Most complaining are kids
im not unsubbing but it says for new subscribers, what about old subscribers?
@@brojoe44It just states until your next renewal date. Once your next bill date hits, the new Crew rules will apply, even if you stayed renewed from November
I lost it. First i buyed the battle pass and then bought the crew and canceled it and now its gone
No offense but this was made VERY clear that’s how it would go moving forward
@@IamW4RL0RD yeah but he bought the bp before he got the crew
@@IamW4RL0RD Legit ☠️
@IamW4RL0RD yeah but you should get your vbucks back
Did you not read his message? He said he had purchased the battle pass (purchased)
Meaning he owns the battle pass but just because he owns the crew pass as well and then finally ended the crew pass, The game took his purchased battle pass away@@IamW4RL0RD
i havent watched the full video yet but i assume its because of their crew subscriptions ending
Spot on
Dude I am so impressed you read The fortnite crew subscription details apparently most people forgot how to do that
so lvl up to 100 or 200 THEN get the crew yall. that's what's I'm doing.
That's the strat. I'm rebuying mine right when the new Festival starts so I can start working on that, and immediately unlock everything from the current Lego and OG pass, and also start on OG 2 when that drops.
Or don’t get crew lol
Yup but also make sure the secret skin is out the month you buy crew too, I’ve been lvl 200 for 3 weeks but I’m waiting for Godzilla to be available before buying
@@insertnamehere2022I got Crew within about 20 days of Godzilla skin (did this intentionally) so it gives me a week to complete the Godzilla quests. I, like the others, only bought it when I finished the pass
@SVV_KC Mhm, smart players will cheat the system not let the system cheat us
Once Godzilla comes out I’ll get all 4 passes maxed out (aside from music pass because it’s about to refresh for Miku, but I’m confident I’ll max it before the end of January with all the quests I’ve saved)
This practice seems very scummy because they’re basically saying for you to keep a season with the crew pack you’re spending money not once but TWICE just to keep your battle pass progress across all the passes. This is the main reason why battle passes once purchased should NEVER expire.
2 reasons why i didnt get crew, the horrendous skins, and i already bought the battle pass 14 days before, so no reason to get it, maybe for miku but im going to feel like an idiot if i pay to not get any value
Basically the only time you should buy crew is if your at the very end of most your pass progress tracks, and that you time it to the end date of atleast one side pass so that you can get a second side pass free, as because of the current system you literally can't complete 2 main BPs with just one crew unless you spend the 1000 "extra" v-bucks, as the secret skin is always over a month late.
Yeah the skin was abysmal another time with such a skin I cancel my subscription
I’m getting it for free 1000 vbucks and Miku
Why are people saying it’s a bad skin, I bought the crew a couple years ago then canceled and this month is the only month I’ve gotten it again. I like the skin quite a bit
@ skin is dogshit iwl 😭😭 but people should have read the fineprint
I was just wondering why I wasn’t getting my rewards but now they make it worse because the rewards don’t go off levels and I gotta keep grinding
I subscribed to the crew on November 28th and cancelled, got the bucks back and kept the battle pass because I had subscribed before the change to crew pass.
0:42 950 not 800. Just a little correction there. Otherwise helpful video
How much is the battle pass now?
1000
@@flattyres oh Ty for telling me
@ no prob
sounds like crew isn’t worth buying anymore
True
I completely disagree I believe a lot more worth it now because now I don't have to pay $40 for all of the battle passes against each one of these battle passes is literally 10 bucks each
Festival
Lego
OG pass
Battle pass
On top of all of them you also get 1,000 v-bucks and a skin
Any premium rewards you earn during your subscription time you keep
So if you work hard at it you can complete all of the battle passes in one month if you work hard enough
Or you just keep on the subscription honestly I believe it's a whole lot more worth it now
Here's just some quick math
Four passes 40 bucks 1,000 v-bucks equivalent to about $9 usa a skin that's equivalent to about 1500 v-bucks which in US dollar terms would be around $18
40+9+18=67 $
Of course this is if you complete all of them which most of us won't but in general you're still saving more money this way
Bro that is so stupid why did Fortnite even add that
To get more money
Well when you offer about $40-50 worth of content for $10 a month for permanent access
You lose alot more money
Because they get $33 over three months instead of just spending nine or $10 on 1000 V bucks
To keep you on the game more
because some people would buy the crew pack and then cancel it when they didn’t feel like paying and they would still have access to the stuff
Gamers need to learn how to read rather than skip cutscenes/dialogue because they won't realise there is very important info + this is the 1st time they are doing this so it's probably still being tested
Reading comprehension is really difficult for some people I suppose.
4:30 I can agree with the rest but this is just stupid... Like it should be that if you bought a pass and then subscribe to the crew at any point in time of that season, you should get your v-bucks back
Definitely knew about this, but I guess I didn’t read the part where even if I bought the battle pass with my own vbucks, when I get the crew they would refund those vbucks I spent and I’ll still lose my pass. Thankfully finished all the battle passes but I’ll have to get some more vbucks and get the battle pass again when Godzilla releases
It's not complicated but it is shady regardless. It shouldn't take your pass away just because of the crew crap, it's just a shady as heck business practice.
It is how all subscriptions work? You shouldn't be privy to the rewards for the subscription if you aren't actively paying for it. It is like saying "Yes I stopped paying my Netflix subscription, but you should let me finish up this show first before locking me out."
@cupoftea3499 if you bought the battle pass, then later on bought the crew, and then your crew subscription cancelled, you should keep the battle pass you paid for.
As an example from another gaming subscription: xbox game pass. If you buy a game thats on game pass, then subscribe to xbox gamepass, and it cancels later on, you still keep the game you paid for.
Thanks for posting about this tabor. Ill be honest i already knew about most of that info but the part about keeping your battle pass and not getting 1000 vbucks back vs losing the pass but getting the vbucks back wasnt super clear to me. Lesson learned, use 1000 vbucks on the pass going forward (if i can) and dont buy the crew pack within 14 days of buying the pass (if im not already subscribed to crew) lol. That way I'll at least be able to keep access to whatever battle pass i used the vbucks on (until it ends, that is).
This is why i bought crew before chapter 6. Then canceled They *did* say if you bought crew before the new season it would stay with the old rules unless you renew it. My crew expired and i kept the pass
Same
I did that too but weirdly received the January crew and also 1K vbucks today even though I haven't resubscribed and it expired on 1st Jan. I did lose access to everything else besides the battlepass and the festival pass.
@ well if it expired on January 1st you would still get the january crew skin, that’s normal. No clue about the vbucks though
@@TsubasaAnimationssomething similar has happened to me also where i got the 1000 vbucks and skins for 4 months after i lost the crew, i had linked a card to the crew but didnt cancel, and since the card no longer had enough balance to maintain the subscription, it stayed as if i had it until 4 months after when it finally cancelled my subscription on its own, i was surprised as i had gained 4 crew skins total and a total of 4k vbucks plus the battle pass vbucks from each season
i dont know if sonething similar can still be done if your card is simply declined after the first charge and you keep thecc bc rew for a while or if their new “policies” dont adhere to this. I would have to try it with an alt account or something
If you owned every single pass before you bought the crew and you bought the crew, o you get your 5000 vbucks refunded?
Time to report to FTC for epic are anti customer practice
It's a big catch 22 but yeah they do list their terms. So if you don't ever play 3/4 modes just buy BP individually
Oh, that’s the problem? I assumed most people knew about this so it wouldn’t happen
Well, I can see why people are confused. For like the past 4 1/2 years you bought the crew you got the battle pass for the entire duration of the season. So they may have just thought it was the same as it previously was.
"Fortnite players are LOSING their Battle Pass, but WHY?" BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T READ THE UPDATED TERMS OF FORTNITE CREW YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN MORE CAREFUL WITH YOUR MONEY
I bought the battlepass before
Glad tabor is looking out for all of us we definitely need A LOT more people like him
Glad to know I'm not the only one who's had this happen to them.
Did you read the TOS?
That’s kinda messed up ngl
@@Lelandbennett2012 it's a privet business so not really but the kids that don't read what they're agreeing to I see your point
@@subtoadp1well the little kids won’t want to read 10 pages of words they don’t understand, they would just want to play the game without the reading.
That's what you get for not watching 1 video, or god forbid looking at epics news tab in the game.
How did people not know this
Moral of the story is apparently fortnite players can't read. And no, its not shady if its public knowledge. Epic made this well known in the blog. Why are little childrem buying battlepassses and crew? Where are their parents?
Something that I found interesting is that they made the announcement of the changes prior before Chapter 6 began. Which I fully expected to lose my Chapter 6 Battle Pass, since my crew pass was set to expire 5 days after Chapter 6 launched.
The odd part is that even though my crew pass expired, I was still able to keep the Chapter 6 Season 1 Battle Pass regardless of the crew pass expiring and never renewed. So I wonder if they didn't officially change the way it functions until a later date?
I'm so glad I quit 2 years ago 🙏🏻
You’re so glad for being ignorant? Epic Games added the OG pass, Music Pass, AND LEGO pass for the crew and kept the crew pack at the SAME PRICE. They also dedicated a blogpost and FAQs to this exact system. So NOBODY should be confused and NOBODY should be mad because the crew pack is the same price but has more stuff and NOBODY should say Epic Games are shady when this is LITERALLY HOW SUBSCRIPTIONS WORK.
That explains why i kept getting the battlepass trailer when i logged in, Thanks for the info.
It still lets me buy the music pass when im completely done with it 😂
same makes no sense
I think even some people are trying to get around paying ( loophole) but epic has got things like that covered. You don’t get it if you didn’t pay for it ( you got refunded!) For kids, get your parents to explain it to you so you understand how it works
Um when my crew expired i lost everything but the regular battle pass
Because you bought the Crew before Chapter 6, which is when they changed how the Crew works.
This is just bs because you buy the crew pack so you don’t have to purchase the battle passes and can save the vbucks for item shop purchases
I hate this because I’ll have to resubscribe just to get Godzilla because he unlocks too late
Wait until february, close to the end of this season, then you can get Godzilla and guarantee the next pass.
This months crewpass was awesome! It's not shady really, just stopping people from getting two battlepasses on one month of crew pass. Just eliminating loop holes and loss of equity.
Unless you want the Lego and Festival passes, don't even bother with Crew. It's 11.99 compared to just 8.99 for the BP by itself. If you do want the other passes, then level up like normal until everything is earned, then buy Crew to unlock them all at once, that way you're not at risk of running out of time to unlock everything thus losing access to the rewards. Epic has been nerfing XP month after month over the last year which makes it pretty tough to unlock everything in 1 month unless you never leave your house. Even better strategy is to wait until the current Crew skin is about to change to the next Crew skin and then buy the Crew pass, that way you get 2 skins for the price of 1 (plus the rewards from the other passes if you've leveled up enough). Buying the Crew at the beginning of a season is one of the silliest things someone can do right now, unless they enjoy wasting money.
That extra 1k vbucks sure is a nice benefit, though…
That 14 days time limit to subscribe does not seem fair. It's like they're pushing us to buy the crew. I'm pretty sure this feature did not exist before.
When you don't read the terms of use and complain abt it:
Same ppl that freaked out when they refunded their accounts and didn't expect to lose their skins
It’s not right to take away something that someone paid for. That’s just being a piece of shit company not “ReAd ThE ToU”
@@Exo-Xen then dont buy crew use your vbucks to buy the battle passes
@@shiyobui Still doesn’t change what I said
If you are referring to the FTC lawsuit, you were allowed to keep the skins as the money paid out was given to the FTC to distribute by epic cause they lost, if people are losing skins from that, its illegal
@@Exo-Xenit kinda does change what you said because that means people chose to do that preemptively rather than choosing the easier option by using vbucks. What you said previously doesn't add that context.
The way I viewed it was like Netflix. Once you pay for a plan, you’re on it until your payment date. If you don’t pay, you lose access to everything, this is pretty much how it seems so I’m not sure why so many people are upset
The main point is that this is a shady practice, yes it was stated beforehand and I understood it same for a good amount of people but I don't think this is a good way for any company to do to their player base. They need to revert back to previously how it worked and not take people's passes midway if they already got it even through the Crew.
I think the best way to handle this is to just buy the crew pack if you want the battle pass and don't buy the crew pack if you don't want the battle pass.✅️
Bro I lost my battle pass before Godzilla came out
Same
Same dude
i didn’t care about having godzilla, so i’m glad it’s not gonna clutter up my locker
Cause crew is only 1 month. Just buy crew on February 20th, then you get 2k V bucks from Feb and March, 1500 from this pass and you got 1 month to grind and complete the next battle pass for 1500. You will miss out on the bonus skin next season but still 5k V bucks for $11 is crazy.
Can you still rebuy it will vbucks or do you need to rebuy crew to get the battle pass back?
I feel like this change was so unnecessary and a very money hungry thing. I get there was a thing where people would cancel as soon as they got their crew. But they should have done a less shady solution. Yes the crewpack is a good deal if you're able to level up in time. But I think if you're slower leveling up it will cost more In the long run
Y’all really can’t think hard enough, can you? 🤦♂️
And wtf do you mean “less shady”? They LITERALLY had a whole blog post dedicated to it AND FAQ about the exact question everyone is crying about.
Nice video Tabor! I hope they fix this issue soon
It's not an issue and working as intended what
It’s fair tbh, you’re getting access to all the passes and get to keep everything you unlock. That alone is value but you also get an exclusive skin and vbucks. Lots of value in being a crew member now, you just need to play the game to unlock your rewards before the end of the month
What if someone gifted you the battle pass and then you bought crew??
I will say I paid 1000 vbucks for my sons Battle Pass at start of Chapter 6. week later paid 1000 Vbucks for OG Pass. i would say 3-4 days later I decided it be cheaper in future to just get him Crew Pass. Bought Crew Pass and only got 1000 Vbucks back for 1 Battle Pass instead of 2000 for both Regular and OG Pass. so now my sons Batlle Passes are attached to Crew Pass but we were screwed out of 1000 Vbucks.
You don’t get vbucks for every pass when subscribing to the crew. You only get the 1000 vbucks from the BATTLE pass, not any other pass.
Never thought a kid like me would be victim to not reading fine print at such a young age😭
Wasn't even fine print, it was advertised with the change
@ussybaka6274 same
The best thing to do now is to wait till the next season is near and then subscribe to crew so you get the current pass rewards and then the next season pass as well.
That’s what I wanna try and do, I got Fortnite crew in December and finished all passes but I’m gonna buy it again on the last day of the season to get everything instantly and then get both February and march skins, people don’t see how much better this is
Sounds like a MASSIVE scam. If you buy the BP you buy the BP, there should be no reason to remove it. The 1000 vbucks have always been a bonus for buying Crew while already owning the BP. If this is true that they're stripping people off their purchased BP after running out of Crew then it is 100% a scam.
It's not a scam, you're just crazy 🤣
@@DenverHarward no it is a giant scam. They should not have brought every single pass like the festival pass the Lego pass or the OG pass to the crew pack.
@@DenverHarward all this is saying is that Fortnite is just trying to get more money out of us
@@DenverHarward You purchase the battlepass, and then they take it away, totally not a scam 🤡 Just go buy vbucks again and get it back 🤡🤡
I got mine frozen for a couple days last week. I pay for crew via PayPal, December was my first month and I guess there’s a day or two there where the payment has to go through. Also I didn’t get my Lego pass reimbursed, but it was more than 14 days so that makes sense.
Now I know I made the right decision on not joining the crew pass
You should. If you buy crew the 20th or 21th before the new season you will get season 1 battle pass THEN season 2, OG s2, OG s3, festival pass and 2 lego passes
@@OND30 for like 2 days lmao, then thisll happen again
Crew pass is actually a pretty good deal now. It used to be mid but they upgraded the benefits. $13 a month (taxes included) for every single pass, 1000 vbucks, and a skin. That's a pretty good deal
@@Tacsofties wdym 2 days???
@@OND30 the timing if you canceled would make you lose those pretty much as soon as you recieve em since epic removed the old cancellation method
That's why I'm waiting until I get to tier 100 to get the crew pack.
Probably wait until level 135 or 145 instead. Under the bonus levels there's 500 V-bucks that you can only get by being a higher level than 100 by like 20-40 levels.
I got my subscription last month and i was level 30 on December 1 it ended in December 15 and i hella grind Last day of my subscription I was level 111 and it let me keep it
horrible change imo
its really not, but your not forced to buy crew just spend 1k vbucks on the bp
I was expecting this to happen especially because nobody wanted to talk about it💀
Really. It means Fortnite need to be more consistent and maintain crew packs that people want to own. Every time there’s a second rate character people throw in the towel and say it’s not worth it. But now they’re holding your money and progress for ransom.
Makes you want to boycott the company tbh..
This is why I stopped buying the crew pass when they announced the change because it's just annoying to keep track of whether you have the battle pass or not
🤞 hope i still have mine!
They did it to people that didn't resubscribe to crew
I think one big part of this that no one is talking about is what it really means when they say, “one time v buck refund”. I’m willing to bet that anyone that didn’t get the 1000 v bucks had at some point in the past gotten the 950 v bucks when they had already had the pass and purchased the crew. (The way it was before the most recent change) That counts as the, “one time refund” people probably don’t realize this.
That was such a stupid idea, I think if you wasted your money on Fortnite crew you should be able to atleast be able to get the main battle pass and choose between Bonus or Secret Skins
And just like that I’ve officially quit Fortnite. Coz that’s some bullshit.
Bye
It’s not that difficult to understand😂
So every time it expires it just means it will cancel it so you won’t have it any more but you can just buy it again
For me, I have the crew and I understood it the way the crew is now I would say is actually beneficial for both sides. For me, I actually think the crew is actually the best it’s ever been having all the battle passes for how low it is in price.
Now that’s not saying that I think things could be added or changed a little bit more. They’re always trying to figure out a way to make the crew even better than it is.
For me, I think it’s the people that just click a button and not care about what the terms and service is and complain that they lost access to something without reading what it is actually doing
It's because y'all aren't staying subscribed, I don't understand how This is such a hard concept for people to grasp
because people don't know how to read
@shiyobui unfortunately
Because people don’t check the blog??? Not a hard concept to grasp. And people have a right to be mad as this is a very stupid change. You’re paying for the pass so you should be able to keep it
@@SimaticS5I mean even if people don't check the blog, it was stated right on the lobby screen in their news feed where everyone can see it
@SimaticS5 Yeah if you pay for the past individually I can see your argument, but if you're paying for a subscription service that gives you access to everything all at once it's pretty stupid of you to assume you get to keep all that stuff at once if you only make one payment. People don't have the right to be mad when Epic told them what was going to happen, it's a great deal if you pay attention to the fine print
I cancled it before january and for some reason i still got the skin but nothing else thank goodness i finished the battlepasses because i had no clue
It's actually quite straightforward if people read the FAQ.
But perhaps a visual guide on how the Crew subscription works with the Battle Pass will help too.
And I think most people who bought the BP and then bought the FNC later forgot that they received the 1,000 V-Bucks refund. Or they thought the 1000 V-Bucks was part of the monthly package.
This happened to me but before it you cancelled crew you would still have the past
this is just dumb what are they thinking
Money hungry
My crew thing always says “your membership will become inactive on (the 7th of the next month).” It always says that and doesn’t go inactive. It’s weird
I think it’s shady how they use the crew pass and canceling during the season .
That's why the new strategy is to level up to the maximum level that the pass requires and then buy it on your own or with the crew to get all the rewards at once and not have this happen to you later.
This was made VERY clear at the start of the season so idk why people are complaining now but great vid tabor
This makes sense. Else you could pay once, get all of the passes, cancel. I wonder if you can still unlock premium rewards after Crew expiry if you have them ready to claim, though!
The fact that you had to make a video about this, shows that people don’t pay attention to what they’re getting into. 😅
This shows how little attention span people have now, did they honestly think they would get all battle passes permanently for only one month of crew?
Im so glad i waited an extra 2 weeks now i can get godzilla
Too good to be true 😄
People must’ve been not paying attention when this was stated. Like Tabor said, they said it clear as day
They did but it’s honestly a scummy thing to do to their player base and it’s clear they are hungry for money.
@@virfex2278the crew pack price didn't increase, you got 3 more passes now. Wdym they're money hungry
I only half-paid attention because I'm a crew member on auto renew and don't ever mess with it. I didn't see anything about having to manually renew it, so I went on to other things.
@ it’s not scummy. They literally made it so where the Crew gives you four passes plus a skin plus rocket league premium. The Crew is far more worth it, but they couldn’t just let it stay like it usually did, otherwise, people would keep paying every other month and Epic would end up losing out on money.
You’re right, they want money, but this isn’t a scummy thing to do at all. People just gotta actually fucking pay attention to avoid this.
@IamW4RL0RD i think what yall arent getting is no one asked them to do it sure its more benefits now but whats the points of a subscription type battle pass if you dont reach 100 when the seasons over which they typically last 2-3 months youll be paying half or almost the same amount you wouldve payed in the first place they shouldve just kept it how it was before the one that most thought they were getting in the first place or put up a screen that told them what they were getting in before they bought it
2:06
I got confused on this part. if you cancel the crew. Will the pass revoke or still continue?
I bought the battepass again after canceling my crew pack at level 170 and it made me spend 1k vbucks for a single tier
1000 vbucks for 1 tier is a scam
Why didn’t you just buy crew again, now you’re missing out on the next og pass and miku
@@mckahllace7605 I bought again after lol
Lol good
Crew is worth it though, people are just mad that they can not cheat the system out. You get the BP, Festival Pass, Lego Pass, OG PASS, 1k Vbucks, Skin, Rocket League Pass, and more at times! for just $13 bro..and people need to learn how to read ngl
The brain treats rejection like physical pain, according to scientists.
Nah the updated terms of service made it clear that it was happening, people need to be more aware.
GUYS JUST RENEW ON FEBRUARY AND YOU CAN GET THE GODZILLA SKIN
yeah or they can just buy the premium battlepass within 14 days of February and then renew the crew
The change itself is scummy and people were right to criticize it at the time. Yes, other subscriptions function in a similar way, but a live-service game like Fortnite is not the same as a Netflix subscription. With Fortnite, you have to earn the value of what you pay for with the passes. Whereas with Netflix, you don’t have to earn anything to get the full value of the subscription.
Dose no one read the fine print.
What about consistent subscribers that don’t let it expire, I am a consistent user of the crew and on my billing date it denied me access in December but after the system realized I was still an active member of the crew I got everything back. Is this an event that sounds explainable or familiar to you Tabor?
Then your fine no isssues should arise from being a constant member.
Its a solid decision from Epic however I feel like at least the Original Battle Pass should be kept and just the other ones , the original Pass is basically the reason most people play and them locking it behind a monthly subscription is a btch move by Epic, fair for the other passes just not the Original one
You got this confused bro, you can buy the battle pass without the crew anyway. But you can now also get access to the battle pass through the crew pack but once it expires you won’t get the battle pass unless you already bought it.
What would happen if I finish the battle pass but my crew expires do I still keep what I have earned
I already finished all passes so I’m in the clear
You don't have Godzilla though
I didn’t renew my crew and still got 1k vbucks even though my rewards are on hold. I’ve finished everything anyway.