Arcane 1x9 FINALE REACTION!! "The Monster You Created"
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- Eric Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss Season 1 Episode 9 of Arcane - The Monster You Created - #Arcane #Netflix
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The Shark Bazooka is her weapon in the game. But it's not just an easter egg for the gamers, it actually based on Silco's liking toward sea creature, and if you look closely, the shark bazooka has a scar in it's left eye just like Silco. She made it for him.
Except that you can see that Powder already draw a shark looking weapon in Act1 before she even meet Silco.
@@BMHorakhty It still could be for him, I mean she had a lot more characters but chose fishbones out of all those
The scar is for him, for sure.
@@eduardokerber2931 She had that in the game has nothing to do with Silco
@@HazelAmarie dude she existed way before Silco was an idea, in the way you are seeing it the entire series doesn't even matter nor things like way she is called jinx.
When Caitlyn looks up and sees the rocket she screams and her face transitions into her mother's face was such a great shot mind-blowing
A nice little reminder that one of the characters is important to one of our fave characters
It's gonna scar the Vi x Cate ship a little bit.
@@reaperandyel Just a "little"?
All of the transitions between scenes throughout the whole season do similar things. Silco blows a smoke ring transitions into hex-gate ring. Mel is remembering a necklace lying in a pool of blood from someone beheaded transitions to a painting on a wall of the same thing, just as Mel wakes up from a nightmare. Vi is lying on a bed talking to Caitlyn transitions to Jinx lying on an operating table curled up in the same position.
They're really good with their transitions.
I hate Caitlyns mother , good riddance
*“Don’t cry. You’re perfect.”* The best and worst thing Silco could have ever said to Jinx.
The reasurment that there was someone in her life who cared and loved her unconditionally despite her flaws. But also the confirmation that she didn’t need to change, that the violence, trauma and panic attacks were part of her, and that everything she had done until this moment was right. Silco sealed Jinx’s future with one sentence.
After all if the person that most cared about you in their dying words said “you are perfect”, would you ever change?
Thank you so much! Some people just ignore the damaging part in this. Not saying it's not a beautiful scene, it makes me cry every time, but it has many implications, not all good
@@ProphetOfTruth_ how? Literally at the end of arc 1 Powder was a useless kid and he knew nothing about her to make him think she'd be useful. Rewatch the scene, he clearly looks towards Vander's body after she says her sister abandoned/betrayed her. He sees himself in her because he was abandoned by Vander too and that's why he takes her in (he was going to kill her 10 seconds later because, again, he had no use for her apart from finding out Vi's location)
@@ProphetOfTruth_ then why would he hesitate to turn her in? If she was a tool used to gain independence from Piltover, then why didn't he just agree to betraying her? Not just this instance, there are several moments throughout the show that prove that Silco cares about Jinx, and I am amazed that you managed to miss all of it.
@@ProphetOfTruth_ no it really wasn’t. I think a lot of people mis identify Silco’s morals for manipulation. He doesn’t manipulate Jinx because he truly thinks what he is doing is right.
He thinks that violence is the best outlet for Jinx’s trauma because that’s how it was for him. We even see Silco having a similar panic attack like jinx in the montage that happens when Jinx is calling out for Vi and Vi and Cait have just escaped.
They both have abandonment issues and that’s why loyalty is such a big theme in the show. Silco truly belives that Vi will leave Jinx again just like it happened to him and Vander. He thought that Jinx being as destructive as she was was a good way for her to feel free, because it worked with him.
He geniuinely thought that Vi was dead, and when he found out she wasn’t, he was reminded of Vander after everything that happened not wanting to fight for zaun, and was immediately afraid to loose Jinx and that she would be abandoned again.
Not saying he is a good guy, he is terrible dictator who ruled the undercity by fear and addiction and doesn’t worry about anyone’s safety if it means freedom for Zaun. But he truly cared about Jinx and viewed her as his daughter. He didn’t know how to be a good dad, how to deal with a traumatized child or how to raise a little girl, but he tried his hardest to show to her that he would love her no matter what she did or who she was. Which ended up in him condoning all of Jinx’s wrong doings.
@@ProphetOfTruth_ lmao. Do yourself a favour and rewatch the show
"In the pursuit of great we failed to do good." so good :'(
This show is full of such great lines.
"You'd die for a cause, but you won't fight for one!"
"What could've been."
"Don't cry, you're perfect..."
"'Real power doesn’t come to those who were born strongest or fastest or smartest. No. It comes to those who will do anything to achieve it.''
-another great silco quote HGNH
"Is there anything so undoing as a daughter?" is a huge theme in the series.
Vi and Jinx's parents, Vander, Silco, Marcus, the Kiramanns, Mrs. Medarda, even Singed!
I'd say only Vander and Silco are changed or "undone" by there daughter. We don't know enough about singed yet and both the Kiramanns and Ambessa may come in conflict with their daughters but their daughters ultimately never alter their trajectory in life. Where is Vander and Silco ultimately were both willing to completely reevaluate their life goals for theirs. And honestly I think it's better as a theme just between them
@@noremac7216 Vi and Jinx's parents went to war for the betterment of their children--as Vander alluded to when he took his people across the bridge that day, not unlike what Sevika is trying to re-organize. Marcus' daughter was his undoing because every potential option he had to get out from under Silco's thumb would be undermined by Silco coming after Ren or himself, leaving Ren an orphan. The Kiramaans' trajectory in life drastically changes because of Caitlyn... she's the one that sways her mother to see Vi's--and by extension, Caitlyn's--viewpoint on what's been happening to the Undercity, which is why she votes for peace in the final episode. Caitlyn going to the council and giving Vi the floor to speak is what prompts future negotiations and the peace-vote to begin with. Regarding Mel and Mrs. Medarda, the entire reason Mrs. M sends Mel away is that she "made her weak" when it came to making the necessary decisions she felt would keep them safe. We don't know enough about Singed's daughter outright, but there are context clues to consider; he alludes to her in the past tense, and we know she has something to do with why he's become what he has today--in a similar fashion to his "Love and legacy are the sacrifices we make for progress" and "I must warn you, if you take this path, they will despise you." Furthermore, "I know the look of a doomed man" is likely to reference himself (among others).
So really, the poster you replied to was correct on every account. Far more character foils are present in this theme than just Vander and Silco, they're just the most obvious ones.
Cait is 100% a disappointment to her mother, it follows the theme.
The thing about this show that cannot be said for almost any other show is that not a single frame is wasted. At every possible moment you are getting spectacular art, or storytelling, or music, or action, or all of them at once.
Exactly! Well said
I think this is the perfect way to describe this show.
Exactly, the show wouldn't be the same without five seconds of Y O R D L E G I M P
I remember seeing someone say that the art for this show was like moving concept art
@@natyx24 it really wouldn’t tho
Silco is the best. Episode 1, I was expecting a 2 dimensional villain. Episode 9, favorite "villain".
There are no villains in Arcane
@@OutOfPocket-h9e he is a bad person tho
@@torrinbianchi5283 Every villain is a bad person but not every bad person is a villain.
@@torrinbianchi5283 He is. He's an anti villain. His ultimate goal is good, and there are people he genuinely cares about, but he is undeniably ruthless and evil.
I knew from episode 3, once they had that monologue from his point of view, that Arcane was going to do more with this character and him taking in Powder at the end of that episode sealed it for me in terms of he's going to be more than just the villain. Amazing character, hats off to Riot and Fortiche for making all the characters, especially the non-game ones all interesting and unique.
Silco was everything Powder/Jinx wanted, someone who would accept her for what she was, flaws and all. He loved her unconditionally, for better and for worse. Vander was the father that they all needed: understanding and caring, but willing to put his foot down to make sure his children developed into well-rounded people.
Vi has solved every one of her problems with her fists, so when it comes to Jinx's mental state, she has almost no experience to draw from. Jinx hoped Vi could understand that she is different now, that it's not possible to go back to exactly the way it was in the past. Vi continuously calls her Powder, reminding her of the past and all the trauma that comes with it. Vi's heart is in the right place, but it's not what Jinx needs to hear right at that moment.
Silco finally understood why Vander made the decisions he did, all those years ago. He would do anything to achieve his dream of independence, but he would do even more to protect his daughter. Silco makes peace with his brother in arms, then spends his last breath comforting Jinx.
Amazing series, well-developed characters, impeccable animation and flawless voice acting. Nothing is perfect, but damn does this masterpiece come close to it.
P.S. also watch the music video for Enemy: Animated to the same style and quality. It includes scenes they didn't manage to fit into the show and hits different after finishing Arcane.
P.P.S If anyone wants to just have a discussion about any part of the show, just reply. I could literally talk about this show for hours.
It's heartbreaking how Vi, exactly because she's used to solve everything directly, tells Jinx to remember Milo and the others, in what would seem the cliché trope that makes the insane character "come back to their senses". Instead Vi just makes the trauma worse, Jinx sees the ghosts of the dead as monsters (like those Vi created for her when they were little) and she grows small inside her mind
Silco was the father Jinx wanted. Not the father she needed.
Vander dies, Vi: you're a Jinx
Silco dies, Silco: don't cry, you're perfect.
@@giuseppepiuma1965 Season 1 of Arcane is a story about duality, circumstance, change and tragedy, all the way to the very end. In just one season, we get to see history repeat itself again, and again and again.
We see how Vi accidentally creates Jinx at the end of episode 3, and tragically, we see her accidentally solidify Jinx's personality in episode 9 by doing what you said.
Likewise, Jinx accidentally killed her father figure in episode 3, and tragically, she does the same in episode 9 by instinctively shooting Silco to protect her sister.
Silco chastises Vander for his dealings with Piltover in episode 3, then goes on to make those same deals when he takes control of the underground.
And now we have the impending war between Zaun and Piltover, just like how episode 1 started. It's a never-ending cycle, but what will it take to break it...
@@glast4810 His love was truly unconditional to a fault. He really did see her as the perfect daughter he brought up himself.
The saddest part is when you realize that Jinx's rocket Fishbones wasn't made for her. She made it for Silco. Thats why its a shark; Silco loves sea creatures.
she had drawings of it as a kid in past episodes but that's a nice thought ig
@@Ziaotic They bonded over sea monsters. Jinx drew one young. Silco literally showed us Fishbones in episode 1. There is a Shark that belongs to Silco that looks EXACTLY like fishbones and makes Silco say, "Beautiful arn't they"
It even has the scarred eye.
Well it’s from the game and predates Silco so unlikely that it was anything more. Nice idea though.
@@95johndeering They could have ret-conned it. It's not like there was much lore established around it in the game.
"Don't cry, you're perfect"
Silco has so many good lines. At the fountain he says "Oh it all makes sense now brother". Remember, Vander used to have the same goal as Silco but stopped fighting after losing a lot of people and picking up Vi and Powder. And now Silco is doing the same thing.
Vander was willing to sacrifice himself and his principles to protect his kid
Silco was willing to sacrifice his dream and go to war to protect his kid
Both amazing fathers.
"I'd have your son killed for this but I suppose we're ahead in that regard." One of my favorite Silco lines and villain lines in any Tv show. Just so cold and intimidating
@Trashthlete and? It's in character for him. He's always been very theatrical and Vander has always been the greatest influence for him. I think it makes sense
@Trashthlete again, so?
Ekko telling them about Jayce's place got Milo Claggor and Vander dead
Or Vi leaving Powder alone to rescue Vander
And later Powder putting one too many gemstones in the bomb
Of course you can pinpoint a lot of stuff which caused death and misery but if it's in character what's the big deal?
@Trashthlete she didn't trust him well before that moment. She was convinced that he lied about Vi's death and she felt deeply betrayed. She has been having trust issues throughout all the second and third arc. Just seeing Vi side by side with Cait convinced her of a whole made up scenario in which Vi would betray her to work with enforcers. It works wonderfully with her characters, I'm sorry but I disagree
13:36 Jinx pulls out shark rocket launcher
Calvin: "oh..."
Eric: *Jaw Drops*
Aaron: hehehehehehehehe
Favorite moment of the whole reaction lol
Hahaha he's the only one who played League
14:45 what eric is doing was my exact same reaction after the episode ended😅
Same
Calvin: “come back. I’ll give you a treat “. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
14:42 the cut to Eric facing the corner is freaking hilarious
9:58 Look closely. Jinx walks up wearing _both_ of the gauntlets. Remember that the right arm is broken and is SUPER heavy; even Vi couldn’t lift it. But Jinx can, and when she takes it off she shake her arm like “ouch, my arms sore now”. It’s a subtle detail that’s easy to miss, but its our first hint that shimmer has given her a considerable upgrade.
What an incredible show!
I was under the impression that with her newfound knowledge with hextech that she had simply fixed the glove (As a way to show her competence in building/repairing those kinds of systems). Also to give the impression that she was carrying something heavy like a head
Yeah. In episode 4 when the fire light girl tried to pull away, she couldn't. Jinx is strong and gets stronger after that shimmer boost. That hand shake after dropping the gloves was a great detail to add. Just another example of show don't tell.
I love that last song the most.
This show has the best OST I've ever heard for a show/movie. Hands-down.
And hearing *STING* sing that weary, dreadful, and heartbreaking song is just the icing on the cake.
I cry everytim
Omg, it's the one song of the soundtrack I listen to the most and sing along with. Just Stings voice along with the violin music in that song. And how the last line of the song is used in the episode, uuuhhh so great.
It's also really impressive how every song on the soundtrack was made specifically for this show.
@@reno9821 they went all out on it....
@@reno9821 Wait, what? Holy shit, I thought they were just great at picking songs.
This show is honest to God not just one of the best animated series ever made, it’s one of the best tv shows of all time! It has some of the best written characters I have ever seen, hell my heart even broke for Silco, SILCO!!!
It’s so great that just like how Beauty and the Beast broke ground and became the first animated movie to be nominated at the Oscars for best picture, the Emmy’s should nominate this show for best drama series.
I can't agree more. I'm addicted to watching people react to it. I haven't had an emotional response this strong to any produced fiction in a long time.
One of the best shows period.
I don't think I can come up with a better non animated show. 🤔
There might be one but nothing I can think of really beats Arcane.
I agree so much. The only thing people can say against it is that it’s only 9 episodes, but to that I say, well this was one of the best season 1’s I’ve ever seen.
@@V1ctorTrophies the other problem is that the finale ends like you have to watch next week’s episode and not wait for over a year.
@@thedarkknight2221 The ending is perfect. If they ended it a little later, the meaning wouldn’t have been the same. I recommend searching it up, there’s a guy who’s great at explaining it.
The rocket didnt really come out of left field tbh, Silco had been urging her to make a weapon with the hextech gemstone for the better part of the show, so she did
I guess what he meant was the design of it not the weapon itself
Yah a shark shaped rocket launcher w/ a scarred eye from a visual design standpoint would have been the last thing I imagined with Silco asking for some sort of weapon of mass destruction-and I’m a long time League player. lol
@@djbakasan Well in the show it's an homage to Silco, in reality, Silco was designed after Fishbones (or it seems that way to me at least)
You could even see blueprints for it in some other episodes
Vi and Caitlyn’s relationship is definitely meant to be seen as romantic. With the amount of face touching and flirting they do, they’re definitely into each other haha.
Yeah its clear as day lol. I feel like Aaron always misses the gay subtext in shows and movies or tries way too hard not to assume.
I've seen people accuse riot studios of queerbaiting with Cait and Vi, as if their romantic interactions weren't meant to lead anywhere or that they needed to kiss this season to seal it. Like what? Lets calm down there's a lot going on that's more important than these two gals making out in the midst of all this trauma. But they very obviously will eventually, like let it play out lol.
@@pwytbt yeah, facts. They knew each other for like 2 days max, a full romantic confession or kiss after that long wouldn't feel right, imo. We all know its coming, let's enjoy the journey to get there.
Yea it's slow but really really obvious, but it gets dodgy sometimes I guess when ppl talk about or assume same sex stuff idk.
@@deshaunfortune912 I think he's some ultra religious person who probably thinks it's a "sin" or whatever 2,000 year outdated mythical bullshit says
the realization of what Jinx's ult, her rocket at the end, is, was so stunninly beautiful and sad
it was paralyzing
I love the idea that it recontextualises it as a weapon she made for or inspired by Silco
6:20 “in your brief lifespan?”
Heimer is currently like 400 something years old. Part of his “negligence” stems from the fact that he sees a number of “human issues” as small, or trivial. Something he’s seen 20x over in his life already. There will always be a sense of “I know most”, when you outlive everyone around you by 4-5 lifetimes. It’s not Heimer being a “shitty guy”, it’s 100% in character for a genius yordle like himself.
I think the one good parallel to Heim is Vander in that aspect. With Vander, being a failed revolutionary, he knows too well the consequences of drastic actions if they don't succeed. I think that's one detail I'm surprised you caught on.
Heimer is definitely not shitty but being wealthy and immortal has rendered him apathic to common people issues. He never has to fight for survival, scramble for food, or wonder how he'll make it the next day. He became a bit complacent and self-satisfied, sure of his own knowledge due to his experience, but in the end very ignorant of the harsh reality of life and struggles of his city. This is perfectly reflected in his scene with Viktor, where he basically offers his dying student a beautiful but empty speech: "you are dying?/sucks to be you!" He failed as a leader to his city and as a mentor to his students, and it's only through facing the undercity and meeting Ekko that he saw where he went wrong. He can be a good mentor to Ekko by taking action and working along youth and progress rather than going fully against due to his fears of the past. It's a great twist on the elder sage because in this instance he was both right AND wrong.
He says he is 307 in ep 2, therefore he is 314 in this ep.
I'd argue that it can make 100% sense, be 100% in character, and *still* be shitty. I'd argue no one in Arcane has done anything illogical for their situation given who, what, and where they are and there are definitely characters I'd still call shitty, lol.
@@mattiekarwin3667 I still don't think he is. He has no ill-will towards anyone. He may be a tad negligent and out-of-touch, but that doesn't make him evil. After all, he's a scientist first, not a politician. I don't think helping the poor is really his job. He's the founder of the city, but he's not the leader of it. If you were in his place, would you go out of your way and station to help the poor people that you never really even see?
The show is a masterpiece, no doubt.
But the song on this episode just really take the cake for me, everytime I heard it I feels like crying.
This and the song from the end of episode 3 called "Goodbye" from Ramsey. Amazing emotional song while you have the scenes in your head
Went out and bought the soundtrack on Amazon. I think I like every song on it. Sting's voice is perfect for the end song.
For me it’s “Guns for Hire”.
@@tbmr11 yes, Goodbye and Guns For Hire also give me that feeling.
It’s insane that they didn’t license any music and instead scored the entire show and had all new songs written for it. The song at the end of ep. 2, Our Love, genuinely sounds like a lost motown masterpiece.
When the histories are written of 2021, if Arcane isn't mentioned as one of the few positives that year produced, it will be a tragedy.
@@ArmchairOps I mean… no. Arcane was one of the best shows this year because it was a dry year and Arcane was really good. Even in most other years it’d be up there. Lol storytelling hasn’t just suddenly became bad.
@@sifibruh7055 look at its imbd score, its literally one the best ever
@@mkbthekid2041 I’m not saying it’s not. I’m saying storytelling isn’t worse these days.
@@sifibruh7055 I would say it’s worst because of the pandemic and good stories being pushed back. But it will get better as we see more stuff get green lit and pushed out
@@ArmchairOps marvels an example of this? I didn’t get any political view from watching Spider-Man. Yeah there are some but if you focus on the bad of any generations of storytelling you’d get the same sentiment.
it's really crazy how Silco was mocking Vander because his attachment for kids and thats how he ended up, also the peace was never an option the key for it to complete was Jinx and Silco was never going to give her to them.
It's not crazy, it's one of the most sensible things in the whole show.
Which is also why it's also one of the best scenes in the show.
It's so hauntingly authentic and heavy.
"It all makes sense now, brother" as he finally understand why Vander opposed him, all the pieces falling in place.
Absolute beautiful.
I wonder. If word got out (especially to Sevika) that Silco gave up independence for Jinx, I think it would have spelled the end of his reign. Odds are he would have fled with Jinx. So the changing of leadership might have slowed things, but it wouldn't have completely destroyed peace talks.
Not sure if they noticed, but if Caitlyn's mother dies in the explosion, that'll be a gigantic divide between Vi/Cait and Jinx next season. Your sister killing your girlfriend's mum is kind of awkward.
Even almost killing her would do that tbh
If they are going by the original lore. Caitlyn's mother doesn't die in the explosion
Not even girlfriends, not even in current lore. Not saying they won't be I'm just saying they aren't.
@@asoleieifretton7578 now why would you tell us that? I don't wanna get spoiled by in game lore thank you very much
@@dinkelberchs3697 the show is either a seperate canon or retconning a bunch of stuff so I wouldn't worry too much about anything from the games spoiling stuff.
Regarding Jayce...
Ekko (Episode 1): "He didn't even haggle. I charged him double."
Silco (Episode 9): "The boy didn't even haggle."
And Game of Thrones couldn't even remember Jaime's motives when becoming the King Slayer...
Jaime: "To be honest, I never really cared for them, innocent or otherwise."
Silco reaffirming his love and acceptance with his dying breath kills me every time. He truely adored his daughter.
It was a toxic love.
Yeah, adored her as a typical narcissistic psycho would 🙄
@@Karasuno86 how in the world is he a narcissist xD
@@Byakurenfan indeed. But love nonetheless. It's not to say it was good, but it was good for the characters complexity
@@burtonboard44 literally everything about him is textbook narcissist, even down to him adopting Powder in the first place, remember, he was going to kill her before he saw himself in her.
Arcane for me is a show that demonstrates what western animation can do if it applies itself, or rather is allowed to reach its full potential
shame we see it so rarely
I'm hopeful honestly. It sets a new bar for the western animation, maybe forcing other stuff to increase in quality in the following years
Yeah no it took years and millions of dollars u think companies are going to that for every animated show lol
"I paid a Visit to your girlfriend earlier" Nothing says Jinx supports their relationship more than not re-enacting the movie Seven.
*Proceeds to probably kill her mom with a rocket*
Damn....it Jinx :P
I paid your girlfriend visit this morning
Oh wait, is that a reference?
@@vinz3022 idk if outright a reference but its where people's mind go for stuff like that since that scene is pretty iconic.
I'd say it is definitely a reference to Se7en. The way this scene plays out is very close to how it went in the movie. Even Jinx' line is almost the same that Jon Doe made in Se7en.
John Doe: "I visited your home this morning"
Jinx: "I paid your girlfriend a visit this morning"
When she says "I'm not that crazy" all I could think was, yes you bloody are you liar.
"Don't cry, your perfect"
Part of me really wants this to be a line from Fiddlesticks towards Jinx in game. Imagine how great it would sound in his voice.
I dont think it would work; fear isnt what she felt at that moment just grief
@@Ghilannugs uhhh.... shit, you right. no idea how i forgot the entire fear aspect of Fiddlesticks lol.
" it's all your fault "
@@Ghilannugs It could still evoke fear in Jinx if she heard it tho. Kinda like the 'I'll always be there, my little hero' line to Nunu.
Also, now you got me hoping Fiddlesticks will eventually make it to Arcane or a show like it.
@@dark_fusion1288 Wait there’s a character in League that Jinx is afraid of?
"Don't cry, you're perfect". Using his last strength to comfort her, gets me all the time
Arcane has been renewed for another season, it was announced the same day Episode 9 aired. The writers have already said that they have about 4 seasons of story already planned.
So it wont stop on just 4 seasons, right??😃
@@Anu32148 I really hope so.
It really sucks that there's a possibility that future seasons of arcane and invincible could be bad or horrible wish we could have a sure fire way to know that it won't be fucked up but we don't and it really really sucks
i just hope it doesn't get the good ol "turn the writing into shit after a season or two"
i really love this show
Source please 🙏
oh it all makes sense now brother - imo this is his best moment. people can say that it was his last moments, but this was it for me. all those thoughts in his head, he just understood vander too late.
Wow i never thought about that but you're right. He finally understood why Vander gave up the fight for the nation of Zaun so easily, it was because of the love and safety of his daughters. Something Silco couldn't understand until that very moment, and then he was ready to do the same.
not a lot of people talk about it, but Jinx using Vi's gaunlets as oven mitts was such a good gag it made me laugh in spite of the creepy undertones.
and did u noticed that one gauntlet is already broken, so it shows how strong Jinx is now post shimmer.
She also painted them and painted the "nails" to match her own. She's so cute.
They didn't do it just for the laughs. If Jinx had just abandoned the gauntlets in the tavern and take Vi, someone had picked them up sooner or later for sure, they are a very valuable piece of technology. And then, in Season 2 they would need to explain us how did they manage to retrieve them. So they avoided all those future headaches by just including this little 2 seconds gag. This show definitely pays attention to everything and does not waste time.
I always see people react negatively to Silco's "You'll be with her one day before she realizes you aren't that girl anymore" line, but few seem to realize IT'S TRUE. Vi can't let go of Powder, Jinx can't go back to being that innocent(ish) little girl. He's not just manipulating her, he's being honest in these moments.
at 48:07 Eric looks into the camera like "You guys gayder is non existent" 😂I feel Aaron and calvin never want to assume characters are attracted to eachother and miss subtext bc of that.
Fun Fact: Each piece of music in Arcane. Every song and each score was written specifically for this show. Arcane is 100% original content from start to finish.
and this one is by Sting.
The irony in Vi's rescue mission where she's trying to save Powder from Silco but the thing is that Silco didn't creat Jinx he just accept her and cared for her like a father/sibling should, and you can see that when Vi reminds Jinx of her family thinking that would help her it does the exact opposite thing and just makes her live in the past and never letting her overcome her trauma and Silco knows that, that's why he tell's her to not listen to Vi
Really, guys? The romantic subtext between Caitlyn and Vi wasn't even subtext; it was just text.
They hated each other when they first met and they suddenly loved each other after a single hour? They know each other for a minimum of 2 days max. Jayce and Mel knew each other for at least 7 years before they got together. Cait just likes Vi because she's the only person who wants to do her investigation with her. They're just partners in crime nothing more
@@Real_Genji They were lying in bed, staring into each other's eyes my guy
@@Real_GenjiI’d love to hear what you think about this a year later 😂
God I love Silco's character, he's easily the best 'new' character because his character arc was the same one Vander went through when he found the kids during the war with Piltover. His design is badass from his clothing to the scar which he covered up after adopting Powder, that scar was a constant reminder of the disparity between the undercity and topside but he covered it up anyways likely to make Powder feel more comfortable around him. His voice actor is amazing, every word drips with malicious, second-meanings or affection. Also also actually actually, the music in Arcane is phenomenal, Goodbye, Playground, Guns for hire, Enemy etc etc etc, It's all AMAZING
The writers of this show, please keep it up.
When I talk about this show to friends. I tell them. This is a Masterwork in visual and dialog driven storytelling. It's got everything and it deals with a lot. Social and civil unrest. Patriotism vs Terrorism. Political intrigue. Drug use and how it tears apart societies. Mental, physical, and emotional trauma. There is just a whole lot going on here. But fair warning. It will leave you a blubbering mess And Riot did not pull any punches.
My friends are not believing me how good this show is 😂 .. Absolute masterpiece. I'll just wait unlit they watch by themselves ❤
@@Shoy3b seriously, no one I’ve recommended it to has bothered watching it 😭
@@liannyssanchez2021 same with me
They be like "GTFO how can a cartoon be this good " 😂
14:44 “Eric come back” 🤣, yep it killed me again. I was laughing for a while. The cut was once again, perfect.
Pre-explosion, Vi had been only ever loving and encouraging of Powder, and after Vander dies, Vi lashes out harshly at Powder before she realizes what she's doing, and walks away to calm herself. Powder thinks that Vi is truly abandoning her, which devastates her; after this trauma, Powder's identity and foundation is shaken and she battles this identity crisis of being Powder or Jinx all her life. Powder/Jinx has only ever cared what Vi had thought about her. When she discovers vi is alive, she lights the flare off in a desperate attempt for things to go back the way it has been before the explosion, and for a moment, she gets exactly what she had always wanted; Vi showed up like she promised, apologized for leaving her and explained what happened , and in that moment Powder had her loving encouraging sister back until Caitlin showed up. The next time Jinx sees Vi after the tower is on the bridge, where, in Jinx' perspective, Vi abandons her again, despite promising never to leave her on the tower. This solidifies in Jinx' mind that Vi really does think she's a Jinx, and that she's not worthy of love. At the very end when Jinx kills Silco, it is the nail in the coffin for Powder; it's in this last moment that Jinx realizes, acquiesces and accepts that she really is a Jinx (Before that, Jinx had held this hope that she wasn't a Jinx, and that really was Powder, and in her mind, Powder is someone that deserves love).
I love how if you go back to their trailer reaction they don't know almost anything about this world and show, and now, only 9 episodes in, look at how invested they became.
"It all makes sense now, Brother... Is there anything so undoing... As a daughter?"
He called Vander a coward for not be willing to risk Vi and the kids for the cause as he deamed its worth any price.
He didn't understand fatherhood.
Now he is literally giving up everything he's been fighting for his entire life, for Jinx.
His realization in this moment is so phenomenally heavy and real.
Best God damn line, best God damn scene best God damn everything in the whole show.
The most tragic thing about Powder/Jinx is that it's not about the choice wheter she is one or the other. Its the choice about beeing herself that tears her apart.
Vi told her in Episode 2 that "What makes you different makes you strong." and she took that to her heart, fully embraced it and stayed alive because of it. On an emotional level she will always be this little girl, she will always be Powder because of the trauma that happend to her as a child which made it impossible for her to gro any further. And after years when shes more different than she was ever before, her sister doesnt't seem to truely recognize her any more and even seems to be afraid of her, of what she has become. Believe me its one of the worst experiences to be trurhfully feared by someone you love and who you admire just because of who you are. This pain will break you and it does though to Powder/Jinx finally.
And in her shattered mind thats the ultimate betrayl. The idea of beeing different as a strength gets brutally reversed in its core and the only one who loved he unconditionally for exatclty that dies by her own hand in the end.
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Srtill could cry on a daily becuase of that absolute phenomenal tragedy.
“Don’t cry, you’re perfect” ruins me every time I watch it. I’m in tears at work right now. I’m so glad you guys loved it as much as I do. Now the long wait for season 2 begins.
Definitely don’t think Mels shoulders was the light of the rocket and she actually has some kind of power or defensive shield armor, maybe for assassination attempts
In the game there is an item called Zhonya's Hourglass which make you invulnerable for a few seconds and has the same gold colour, just thorwing theories
Hey Riot doesn't include effects and details without a purpose so you could be right.
I was surprised not a lot of reactions caught this. The framing seemed very deliberately focused on the flashing gold and felt like mel was warned by the thing she was wearing. Considering her mother's background, it wouldn't be far-fetched at all to suppose that she would give her daughter something to protect her from assassins.
Other than the ones we know would survive after the blast, she's the one with the best chance. I'd say there's more than 70% chance that it's a protective Shuriman magical relic.
@@tb4076 Well the entire show has been pretty much an artistic masterpiece, maybe people thought Mel's shining gold plates was just an artistic effect.
The rocket launcher, I don't remember exactly what it's called in game
But it was very clearly made for Silco. It's a sea monster, the leviathan whale type of thing that he said he liked so much
And it's just saddd
Why is this show so sad, I love it
FISH BOOONES
@@mydaddusty THANK YOU, Fishbones
The rocket itself is called Super Mega Death Rocket...SMD, good one RIOT.
@@Tubejin SMD? Am i missing a pun here?
Ekko episode 1: he didn't even haggle I charged him double price
Silco episode 9: the boy didn't even haggle.
amazing writing
Never picked up on that. Very consistent but subtle characterization.
Don’t cry, Eric. You’re perfect.
This is the best take Ive ever heard on Silco love for Jinx.
Sooooo many people doubt he Loved her and think hes just manipulating her.
Not a chance.
Like you say, he gave up EVERYTHING for her.
He absolutely loved her.
People forget that Silco is, without a doubt, a very damaged individual as well and Jinx is literally the only person he relates to on a personal level.
"Daughter" is a more accurate word than most realize, Jinx is basically a part of himself.
Damn, Silco is a top tier villain ever.
Top3 for sure.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is the best show I've ever seen. Complete masterpiece.
I'm not usually an emotional person when it comes to television, but nothing has made me more emotional than the final 10 minutes of this show. And man, "What Could Have Been" is the best song I've ever heard in any form of media. Masterful musical storytelling. It just tore me to shreads.
Couldn't agree more
Same
At the dinner scene when vi tries to calm Jinx down with all her past memories and jinx just says "NO STOP IT" its a perfect line but I think it went over the head of most people that dont understand mental problems, Vi was tourturing her(not intentionally) at that moment with everything she fucked up"JINXED" her even more and Silco realised it and was trying to end her suffering by ending Vi's rant, with the gun. That scene already Imo is a singht of silcos love for her many ppl think he tried to do it bc he was just worried to lost jinx( his daugther) but I think he did it to protect her from even more trauma.
and also the peace wouldve proably never come to past since silco wouldve never given up jinx and thats whats most of it was set up on not to mention he died before any of it actually happend.
Gotta argree with Eric, Cait & Vi are definitely implied to become a couple later. There were so many moments between them over the season, notably the scenes on the bed, Vi parting ways in the rain, Caitlyn's shower introspection, etc. It's refreshing that the showrunner's didn't put emphasis front & center onto it but sort of just foreshadowed and hinted at it. I'm no shipper 99.9% of the time, but it felt pretty intentional to me. I'll eat my words if this doesn't evolve somehow in one of the future seasons.
I mean, Caitlin even asked Vi "what about us?" and Vi replied "it wasn't meant to be" so yeah, it is overt to me.
@@jizy06 Exactly. When Jinx said "girlfriend" that was the bonk on the head moment, like hey if you haven't picked up on this yet here it is, let's spell it out for you.
I will still never understand how people miss that they have something. But people ship Cait and Jayce, or even Vi and Jayce and *shudders* Silco and Jinx.
Nevermind I understand now, it's heteronormativity.
@@LangkeeLongkee Well I'm pretty "heteronormal" or whatever but I have no objections to people doing whatever feels right to them in that sphere. I've known plenty of gay/trans people in my time, I don't judge.
I could potentially see someone making an argument with Silco/Jinx in terms of creepy daddy/daughter relationship vibes. But that's probably due to Jinx having a psychotic mental break and not necessarily Silco's doing, or maybe it is. Perhaps we'll see in some flashbacks later on. There were some... undertones in their scenes but it wasn't on the same level as the other two characters. I think they just served to show how unhinged Jinx was.
I don't see anything with Cait & Jayce other than them being friends in their youth in the early episodes & confidants later. Vi & Jayce has literally no merit or evidence. Might turn into actual allies assuming he survived the bombing, but that's about it.
Damnit, now the comments have me all analyzing relationships in this animated show. I maintain that I don't ship, but this show is so good in everything it does, including the "show don't tell" aspect, that I've gotta say my piece on the matter. There are so many properties out there that need to take a lesson on how to construct/portray their narrative from this show.
@@cd5sircoupe
In terms of two characters, I genuinely think Vi and Jayce are definitely gonna be archenemies. Their views and the actions they do to back up their views is so diametrically opposed that I definitely see another confrontation on the horizon. Especially, when Vi now knows that Slico was offered a seat at the table, and potentially having Zaun with him being the dominant power as he, by the end of episode nine, snuffed out any resistance he could have from inside his inner circle.
Eric sinking into the post-Arcane depression right after the episode XD. Welcome to how we all feel buddy.
This show has no right to be soo god dam good every episode
Episode 1: Vi crying in front of her mother ,Vander dropped his gloves and took her in morning. Vi left powder becz violence not going to change anything
Episode 3: powder crying in front of Vander, silco dropped his knife and took her in night. Powder left vi by causing explosion on council
3rd time watching through the series and I still get just as emotional as the 1st time. They've set their own bar so high I'm skeptical as to whether they'll be able to achieve the same perfection with season 2.
Idk if you are familiar with the game, but oh boy you are gonna be surprised!
@@Tokent555 arcane isnt 1:1 with league lore and changes a few character backstories
so they might not even follow league lore exactly
Right after watching Arcane, I got an orphaned kitten (parents died, got separated from sibling, smaller of the two) and named her Powder. She’s never gonna become Jinx though. She’s so sweet. 💙
If they're already separated from their sibling... it might be too late.
I'm sure you'll make a good Silko though
I hope powder is doing well
@@evertime123 She’s doing great! 😊 Powder is learning how to use buttons to ask for things. She also likes to photobomb my TH-cam videos. I put her clips at the end sometimes. 😁
Can we get Rick to watch it now? With Eric guiding, like with GoT series.
Rick would love Arcane imo
The most heartbreaking moments of Arcane are the ones not even spoken of. The ones you have to self realize to understand their impact.
1. Sky is the little girl that watches over Viktor as a child playing with the boat he made in episode 6. She's had an unrequited crush on him pretty much her entire life. Marvelling at his ingenuity. Then she died to save him from the hex core that he created.
2. Vi gave Powder a blue flare saying "Where ever you are. Light this up and I'l find you" Powder has blue clouds tattooed all over her arms and body. She's always been calling out to Vi to come save her.
Don't cry Eric.. You're perfect.
Jinx:Are we still sisters ??
Vi: nothing will ever going to change that
Jinx killed Caitlyn's mom justlike these guys killed jinx's mom .Do you really think VI will go through this??
The pause and look that Vi gives Savika is amazing, I very much appreciate it.
i will never get over how much of a god damn masterpiece this show is. the characters, the dialogue, the action scenes, the animation (EVERYTHING ABOUT IT). it's just incredible!!!!!!!!!
Remember Vander's talk to VI on the bridge, it's what Silco figured out in this episode.
Vi is saying how she's willing to fight and die for their freedom. Vander asks her:
"What are you will to lose?"
That's a huge morale stance the show takes. Violence may achieve your goal, but it will come at a huge price and asks the question, is the outcome worth it?
In the end Silco brought about his own demise. This show artistically demonstrated karma. Silco has consistently been toxic to everyone and when he finally showed love to someone, the weight of his misdeeds was too heavy. Jinx was the product of his and Vander’s crimes. Jinx is perfect
I think people romanticise Silco as a father. He accepted her yes, but he was the one who moulded her. He didn’t accept her as powder, he took her to the lake and said ‘Jinx is perfect’ as if she hadn’t quite yet reached perfection yet. People drag Vi down for not accepting Jinx but it says a lot about Vi’s character. Vi has a moral code unlike silco, she cannot accept Jinx’s behaviour and she isn’t an enabler. She loves Jinx but to be honest, I don’t think it is Vi’s responsibility to accept Jinx and I don’t think it would fix anything. Silco accepts Jinx and makes her into a harmful person, he eggs on her destructive behaviour and tries to keep her for himself. He is a possessive man. I love his character but I wish people would realise that acceptance isn’t what makes a good family member. I wouldn’t accept it if my sibling killed recklessly either. Vi has been in prison for the last 7 years so of course she doesn’t know what Jinx is going through and how she triggered her. Jinx says Vi made Jinx but she was manipulated into believing that. Throughout their childhood Vi encouraged her, the only time she held her back was when they went to save vander, Vi was scared her little sister would get hurt. She believed in powder and defended her constantly. I think the acceptance Jinx seeks from Vi is something she won’t get because Vi can’t bend her morals like that. Although Vi will always love her, even if Jinx doesn’t believe it, you can see Vi loves her
Silco, following his rebirth in the river, was the physical manifestation of the abuse, suffering and toxins Zaun suffered under Piltover.
That alone was enough for me to love him and then they also made him the best father figure for Jinx, the only one who could give her the affirmation of love she always wanted.
Cannot unsee this pattern. (Posting this comment just now because there's spoilers.)
Last episode of Act 1: Vi gets knocked out and taken away by an enforcer (Marcus)
Last episode of Act 2: Vi gets knocked out and taken away by a firelight (Ekko)
Last episode of Act 3: Vi gets knocked out and taken away by her sister (Jinx)
It's an Eren situation all over again lol
To be honest halfway through the series I was rooting for Silco, on one side he deserved better, but on the other it was a fitting end for him
the smile on Aaron's face when he saw Jinx's ultimate is priceless 😂
Seeing the watery eyes from Eric after Jinx shoots Silco was what I was hoping for. Jason Spisak deserves so much love for his performance as Silco.
Silco comforting Jinx even though she pulled the trigger is heartbreaking
Vi/Cait has been a EXTREMELY delved into relationship. Never admitted to canonically. This show did it perfectly and I have never been more obsessed with a relationship that didn't involve me. Which is doubly weird as I'm a straight dude. I actually think I care more about Vi/Cait (since seeing Arcane) than any relationship I was ever in. (which is pathetic on my part, I guess)
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One of my favorite things is that she really is a Jinx. She ruins everyone's plans. Killed Vander, Killed Silco, killed the council, stopped the peace and Zaun from happening, stole the hextech orb thing. Just about everything that went to shit was because of her. Jinxed everyone except maybe Ekko's plans for safe haven, tried to kill him though.
She is a Jinx for herself and for everyone around her. A truly dramatic character, you cannot stop feeling bad for her despite of her madness.
Except even the peace wouldn't work, since Silco wouldn't have given her up for it. She never would know peace, they were still at war with her.
@@smiley4995 but even then, she's a jinx, as it's her existence that makes the peace impossible.
While that is somewhat true I also feel like people are quick to pass over other peoples mistakes to blame Jinx
The entire inciting incident of the series is cause by Vi insisting that they should rob Jayce’s apartment regardless of everyone else’s hesitance, it was Vi’s I’ll thought out plan to give herself up that gave Silco the opportunity to take out Grayson and Vander, it was Sevika that specifically pushed Jinx’s buttons that led to her searching out Vi and it was arguably Silco’s insistence on saving her life regardless of the consequences that destabilised her further
Not to mention Vi unintentionally causing her to spiral into a panic attack which makes her accidentally kill her adopted father
@@corbanbausch9049 you are not wrong, but that's still really unfair, her existence jinxed it? It's not her fault that she was born, it was not her fault that Silco saved her after the bridge. Silco would sacrifice everything for her, what's her fault in this?
I've watched a lot of S-Teir god level TV. I've never been able to pick anything for a #1 slot. Until this.
Season 2 is in the making, we all just have to wait
Yeah 2023
@@xavmanisdabestest I’d rather wait more to get a quality series
@@xavmanisdabestest hahahah 2023, funny guy
@@xavmanisdabestest more like 2024
@@OriNyte Well the producers themselfs said that when they started making Arcane S1 they had like 20people, now they have over 300people in team, it shouldnt take too long this time so its possible like 2nd part of 2023 or beggining of 2024
When Silco points the gun toward Vi, the Powder inside her shot Silco impulsively. Since Powder killed Silco, Jinx killed Powder.
Silco is my favorite character of the series. I remember when i first saw him i thought "they really need to make him with one scary eye to make him intimidating and scary huh", but damn, i was proven wrong.
Sharkbones
Yeah I love that interpretation
As some comments here and there say:
The last thing Powder did was to kill Silco. The first thing Jinx did was avenge him
Yeah he was so comically evil when he was introduced but damn they knew what they were doing
I don’t believe powder is dead, she’s just a lot more buried underneath now after silco’s death. Imo powder won’t ever die as long as Vi lives that part of jinx will always yearn to be with her sister. If silco had killed Vi in that scene, she would’ve killed silco without a second thought and then killed herself because Vi was the last person she had that connected her with her past or her current self, she might’ve loved silco but she loved Vi more.
Silco actually shoots at Vi, he just misses. If you watch slowly, it's the first bullet that flies, then Jinx lights him up.
Her inner demons almost eating Jinx/Powder is such a great visual, so effective! What an amazing show!
Love this show, im on episode 6 currently only started watching because of you guys. Thanks for the content and your hard work! ❤️💚
update: finished it and loved it!
It kills me everytime the show ends and eric's just back there. 🤣
They all depressed as hell.
Arcane season 1: Just as planned
And Jinx's rocket does more damage the further it travels before it hits in the game so... ;)
As much as I wanted to see Jayce and Vi fight, I love even more that they didn't. It's so much more true to his character to back off. Far too few shows would have the balls to back off on that fight, it's so great to have a show willing to follow character rather than spectacle.
They would've annihilated that whole factory if they had fought. It was a reasonable decision to back off rather than risk the lives of everyone inside.
@@hawkins347 Agreed. And I think that's a big part of why Jayce backed off, as well as just being sick of the violence after killing a child.
I love how the episode ended in the warehouse where Vander died. This was where Jinx "split" from Powder(or started to split). From then on as she grew up, there was a constant battle between the two "characters,"...that plus the trauma of killing her "brothers," led to her chaotic mind. So coming here again(the warehouse), allowing others to see a glimpse into her mind, having Mylo and Claggor being present. She was able to find a sense of "wholeness," after the battle of Jinx(silco) and Powder(vi) reached its conclusion. She was now satisfied with being Jinx...She first left that warehouse scattered, and now she left to a degree of feeling whole.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a psychologist or anything. Just thoughts I had watching. The show is ridiculous.
vander sacrifices himself for vi and silco sacrifices himself for powder
This series has been amazing, just all around amazing. Can’t wait for season 2, hopefully it doesn’t take as many years
I love watching that moment, seeing the realisation of what jinx is about to do cross the eyes of the people watching and the shocked silence that follows
"Because he found a little girl crying in the rain.." [after he attempted to murder all of her family] [after she accidentally murdered most of her family]
Those two are so complicated, it makes them endlessly fascinating.
I was on the brink of tears when I thought Katlyn died then made the biggest sigh of relief. That's how much I love these characters, I WAS READY TO WHEAP FOR THEM!
"Silco you bastard, I love you, but I hate you..."
Arcane in a nutshell.
This was so good. Powder finally accepted who she was at the end there, there was no moment where she felt her name befitted her more. The first time was when she killed Vander, Mylo, and Klagger. This time it was ultimately solidified after she killed Silco. She accepted that she is someone who will always end up inadvertently hurting the people she loves. A walking contradiction. A tragedy. A jinx.
Spider-Verse has really made the 3D with 2 textures and VFX style popular and I can't wait to see more of it. Avatar studios announced that they will be doing the same thing for some of their new animated stuff.
Well LoL has been doing it for a while from before spider verse.
@@Byakurenfan not really. They only started doing that recently. A lot of the ones before Spider-Verse cane out art your traditional GGI animations. Beautiful but not a mix of 2D textures and effects.
Arcane was in production for 6 years they did it before spider verse
If there's one safe bet I'd put all my savings on is that Vi and Caitlyn will officially be together in season 2 lol.
What a finale huh! And what an incredible show! So very happy with everything they accomplished with this piece of art. Best show of 2021 hands down.
I’m interested to see if they will ever kill off a character from the game, I don’t need them to be randomly killed but if everyone has unlimited plot armour it could lose magic after a couple of seasons
Yeah true. I knew nothing about the game going in so it was more exciting like ooo who's guna die, once I knew who was in the game I was like ahhh they're fine then and it got a little less exciting
I think if any of them die it'll be himer or singed. Game characters whose deaths could serve the story well
I wonder if they'll wait at least until their new MMORPG has been out for a bit. That could be the continuing lore game while League could retain all of the old and current characters.
They did it once, the character Gangplank got killed in lore and was removed from the game for a month or so before bringing him back. The problem with killing characters permanently is because players spend real money for skins.
Probably, they said it's not Canon.
(No Spoiler, just my opinion) i dont think there is a redemtion arc for Jinx when probably at least some concil members will die. Vi was already bonding hard with Caitlyn (and she is police). So i think from here on out Jinx will be the villan and Vi will work with the police to bring Jinx in. I guess she also feels responsibel for Jinx.
When Jinx brought out that food plate with the cover, I'm screaming "What's in the box??? WHAT's IN tHe BoX?"
I can't figure a way to say it as well, so here's a comment from another video.
ReelRai
5 months ago
Silco blew me away in this series. He's one of the best villains I remember in a looooong time.
He started out as a hideous villain. Someone who hated Vander for leaving the cause. And throughout the series we're not sure, if his care for Jinx is geniune or if he's just playing her, using her for his needs. I'm sure in the beginning, Silco just wanted to use her, and saw a little bit of himself in her. But by the end... oh damn. Silco is in the same position as Vander was and... he understands. He can't give up Jinx for Zaun. Zaun that he has worked his entire life to achieve, all undone by a daughter.
Vi loved Powder, and wanted Powder back. But Powder changed, and there was nothing but Jinx left. The only one who unconditionally loved Jinx, was Silco, and I think that's what the end scene is about. Jinx wanted Vi to love her, love what she had become, love Jinx. But after killing Silco she realizes he was the only one who really cared for her, no matter what she had become, and thus Jinx chose to sat on the Jinx chair.
It's a twisted father-daughter relationship, but goddamn if it isn't well done, and goddamn if I didn't tear up when Silco died
One of the most heartbreaking thematic elements for me in this show was that Vi and Powder/Jinx lose each other at the very end of each act. I honestly get pretty cut up about that, and while I highly doubt they're ever going to come to some cordiality, god I want more of this show just to explore the chasm between these two characters. Ugh when is season 2 man.