Clone High is Still Good (Just in a Different Way) - Clone High Season 2

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  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Sometimes I feel like the writers were inspired by the resurgence Clone High had some time before the revival, as some of the characterizations fit with how the new younger fans reacted to the characters. JFK became everyone's favorite so the reboot portrayed him as more of a soft himbo (as opposed to a womanizing jock like the first season did), Abe was almost universally hated so the show took away his main character status and made fun of him as much as possible.
    If that's the case, prepare for Topher becoming the main character of season three

    • @madchances
      @madchances ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thought the same thing ! They actually had 20 years to really see how ppl nowadays would react with the clones and it makes sense that Joan is like popular, JFK is loved by all and Abe is hated it makes sense !

    • @kotkafer2292
      @kotkafer2292 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@madchances Meanwhile they lost everything that made the characters liked/disliked. The only people who disliked Abe where people who didnt quite grasp what He was parodying and JFK was loved because he is the literal embodiment of the Chad archetype by being a superficial but funny dude that you can only ironically like. JFK Was a horrible Person and that was the point, now hes lost that and ive in turn lost all interest in him

  • @prussianokebab4509
    @prussianokebab4509 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I actually like Topher, but he is really misused in the series, like having him only making small apearences in like 6 or 7 episodes

    • @smurvin
      @smurvin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's to Clone High what Finnick was to Zootopia; a potentially great character the writers didn't use well

    • @prussianokebab4509
      @prussianokebab4509 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@smurvin He barely has any roles, just small little moments, I think is probably because he has no friends, so no one to bounce off a lot, so he either needs a friend or more B or C plots focused on him

    • @gktoliver
      @gktoliver ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah he had great potential in the first couple episodes but they pretty much shafted him afterwards

  • @olivia8243
    @olivia8243 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I think my favorite creative decision in this season was making Joan the popular girl this time around, while Cleo is more socially outcasted. It makes total sense when you consider how much societal standards of coolness have changed since 2003, it wasn't too forced, and it also provided a fun way to switch up character dynamics. I watched the first in like 2021 and don't remember much from it so I don't have much skin in the game, but I thought season 2 was entertaining if not excellent

    • @miscleaf
      @miscleaf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did watch it back in 2002 and you're 100% correct. Having the two wake up and see how much "coolness" has evolved helped segue the show into the modern era for me

  • @RCHCourierTV
    @RCHCourierTV ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I miss Gandhi in this show.. It stupid how it got originally canceled because of a parodied version of a beloved historical figure ( as what this whole show pretty much was ) and it’s stupid they removed him but in all honesty the new season is pretty damn good considering the 20 year gap

    • @little-miss-horror6036
      @little-miss-horror6036 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The real Ghandi was actually a very terrible person if you look back at history, so I don’t see why everyone got so offended by that so much. Most historical figures have skeletons in their closet so I see no problem to poke fun at them.

  • @alexmcdonald4707
    @alexmcdonald4707 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I have no ties to the original but this has convinced me to check both out!

  • @Cristian-ut8uo
    @Cristian-ut8uo ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I didn't watched the original show back in 2023, I discovered Clone High in 2021 and instantly loved it, I was so hyped when they announced the reboot in 2022 I was checking almost every month for news about it.
    Now that it released, Im pretty disappointed about what they did to Clone High
    I loved the satire and how the show didn't took itself seriously with the teen tropes and historical figures jokes, something season 2 lacks in favor for a more traditional adult show, not even close as how unique Season 1 was, and since the pilot I lost interest on it honestly, making attempts to watch it now and then, and after watching 10 episodes, this is not what I expected, and isn't about nostalgia either because again, I didn't watched it back in 03 and I still think is just not good.

  • @elitettelbach4247
    @elitettelbach4247 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I enjoyed season 2! It’s certainly different from season 1, but that’s not necessarily better or worse. The season ended incredibly strongly as you mentioned. And the Mr. B episode, while being the most detached from a normal Clone High episode, is arguably one of the best - if not the best - episode of the entire show.

  • @SilverScribe85
    @SilverScribe85 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Two things
    1. People laughed at me when I mentioned the idea of Frida getting together with Cleo, claiming the one moment between them in the intro was nothing more than a play on teenage drama. But once I watched Sex-y Ed, I got so excited that my ship became real I had to hold a pillow to my face to muffle out my loud screaming.
    2. People also claimed Candid was actually a character with heart, due to her revealing she wanted to be a mother during the Sleepover episode. But not only was that the result of a Truth Serum, which didn't make her confession truly genuine, but what she did in the finale officially made her the villain...even more so than they tried to make Joan out to be

    • @SilverScribe85
      @SilverScribe85 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blank9574 I know it's not a drama, dude but I STILL love a good ship when I see one

    • @OzCroc
      @OzCroc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@blank9574Which real people's sexuality did they change? Both real life versions of Cleopatra and Frida were rumored to be bisexual, but their sexualities were never confirmed. I'm assuming you are just assuming they are straight because that's the "default" to you.

  • @kotkafer2292
    @kotkafer2292 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This season feels like it was made by a 16 year old who watched their favorite youtuber talk about how great the OG was, then watched the original and unironically enjoyed the ironic teen drama stuff without understanding the parody angle. Its all there, the hate for Abe for "neglecting" Joans feelings when that was the joke, JFK turning into a fanfiction-esque lapdog who only has eyes for Joan instead of being a parody of the rich jock/bully archetype and Cleo instead of parodying the "dumb rich girl" archetype by being weirdly smart and actually into Abe is now just a dumb rich girl. Season 2 doesnt understand Clone High

    • @peamut547
      @peamut547 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly. It’s a basic adult comedy in its own right, but this is not Clone High.

    • @nathanwindom3978
      @nathanwindom3978 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s really Missing a layer of complexity

  • @Starsarecooool
    @Starsarecooool ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I enjoyed both seasons! The 2nd season just feels like a different genre! I really enjoyed both. I just wish people would stop say the shows bad because Gandhi isn’t there. The creators mentioned Gandhi coming back for season 4.

    • @kotkafer2292
      @kotkafer2292 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats the issue. Season 2 is an entirely different Genre. Its not a self aware parody of MTV teen dramas with ironic drama, bastardizing the "lessons" The characters learn and the licensed music cut ins. It all no longer feels like a cleverly written parody, it just feels like a teen drama with some mediocre comedy

    • @guerreiroazul3230
      @guerreiroazul3230 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If it's not a parody of teen drama then it's not clone high, that's like if they made an adaptation of A song of ice and fire that is noblebright, you could call it A song of ice and fire, but it wouldn't really be A song of ice and fire.

  • @dirtburger2773
    @dirtburger2773 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1. honestly, i can tolerate the Just Okay parts of season 2 for the simple reason that THEY CONTINUED THE STORY. fuck! they're off the cliff! i literally don't give a shit about ghandi! let him stay in the damn freezer for all i care, the show isn't garbage for the lack of him
    2. i think season 3 will be better. they have their footing now, season 2 got better as it went, and we're more used to the new elements now, so they won't be as jarring
    3. tbh i think the personality differences for the clones can be explained away as, hey, they were literally frozen for 20 years. that's *gotta* do something to your brain, right? at least with cartoon logic. if desert heat can alter JFK's brain, why not meatlocker cold?

  • @peppermintthegamer6969
    @peppermintthegamer6969 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really really hope Topher and Confucius get used more in s3- I have a soft spot for Confucius in my heart and I think they could make him really compelling and Topher is just a really funny character
    S2 feels like it’s very much trying to get a feel for the characters and I’m really hoping s3 does right by them
    It’s definitely something that grew on me a lot more as I rewatched it

  • @jamesoniris2647
    @jamesoniris2647 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There’s one thing that kind of bugs me about the new clone high is that they gave tweens and more frames to the characters that- for a long time fan- makes it feel weird. I know it’s a new area, but it just seems strange and weird

  • @katethevampire
    @katethevampire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When season 2 came out I only watched up to episode 4 and then dropped it. Great to know I dropped it just before it started getting good anyways gonna go watch the episodes i missed

  • @witherkichian4867
    @witherkichian4867 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good or not, a clone of Confucious not having his signature beard is a crime that the show will never be forgiven for.

  • @Kkeicyy_
    @Kkeicyy_ ปีที่แล้ว +22

    i loved s2, it's so overhated for no reason. btw my fav new clone is def frida

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It’s greatly disliked for plenty of valid reasons but the key, undeniable flaw was the writing was not as good, period.

    • @Kkeicyy_
      @Kkeicyy_ ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@SchmergDergen "plenty of valid reasons" not really lol, most of them just hate s2 for nostalgia or bc they didn't even give it a chance

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Kkeicyy_ no there are. I can list and you’ll ignore them. The bloated cast, the voice actors all shaking their age, changing Cleo completely and making Abe a punching bag. These things would be tolerable if it was written well, but it wasn’t. These are all valid complaints that would make the show better if addressed.

    • @Kkeicyy_
      @Kkeicyy_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SchmergDergen again, most of them hate it for absolutely nothing. I understand the show has its flaws, but it's def not the terrible thing haters make it out to be. also, I disagree abt the writing part, but meh.

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Kkeicyy_ nice assumption ya got there. They proved by hate the show because it’s spiteful and shitty now. Yet you’re going after randos on the internet because they didn’t like a mediocre product.

  • @vriska9001
    @vriska9001 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i don't hate S2, it's pretty decent television, especially amongst the "adult" animation genre. i think though that it is somewhat inferior to S1.
    S2 is more like CW dramas and emphasises the High part of Clone High, which is way less unique and interesting part. i do love Frida though, she is my favourite character. i also love that she got together with my second most favourite character Cleo lmao
    again, emphasising the highschool drama was a poor choice imo. it's not what made the show standout to begin with and it makes the humor more bland. i also don't like how the characters have lost some of their depth. especially Cleo, who in S1 was shown to be extremely cunning and smart, but turned into a popular mean girl trope in S2.
    again S2 is not bad, it got Frida and a few good jokes, but it can be so much more.

  • @CrayCrayslab
    @CrayCrayslab ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was so worried they’d completely mess up the reboot, but I’m glad I stuck through the end of the season. I have way more hope for s3 now

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There couldn’t have messed up much more if they tried.

  • @user-bn3cb4be5o
    @user-bn3cb4be5o ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally something positive

  • @salvia272
    @salvia272 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It reminded me of the cringey 2010 teen dramas, it was so stipid that it was fun

  • @cosmicspacething3474
    @cosmicspacething3474 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think most of the hate comes from only the first two episodes being out

  • @Mrhighguru
    @Mrhighguru ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ngl the new clone high in the beginning was kinda bad but then it started getting better again

  • @quincykearney9862
    @quincykearney9862 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People need to realize that the characters memory was erased from his first season. Why do you think Cleopatra was acting like the queen bee in the first episode.

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I wish my memory was erased after season 2.

    • @quincykearney9862
      @quincykearney9862 ปีที่แล้ว

      We can't do nothing about it

  • @privernd
    @privernd ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm confused actually. I felt Abe was the character who stayed MOST true to his season one self.

    • @vhris7097
      @vhris7097 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      U sir have completely misunderstood Abe’s entire character

  • @pontiac_montana
    @pontiac_montana ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Growing Up in the Early 2000s, I was obsessed with Clone High, Eagerly waiting for a Second Season, wondering when the reboot would finally rear its head.
    But after so many years of waiting, and after dealing with all the bullshit life has thrown everybody's way over the last few -years- *_two-decades_* As a fan of the Original, I knew that fundamentally, the second season would have no choice BUT to be different.
    Knowing that Gandhi wouldn't be making an _immediate*_ return, on top of the climate regarding appropriate culture nowadays, especially compared to the Early two-thousands being so different, I feel as though they were testing the waters, doing there best to try and appease those who grew up/loved the show during its initial run, whilst appealing to a modern culture with a differing set of beliefs.
    And I personally think they did a pretty good job! I wouldn't call this so much, ' a second season' but moreover a 'modern reboot', paying rather great homage, whilst still being alluring to a new audience. There are some things I _really_ like, and somethings I _really_ don't like, but altogether I'm excited to see what comes next.
    It's Uncanny, but not Uncomfortable, like a Liminal Space. Familiar yet _Distant._

  • @SchmergDergen
    @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The new writers literally hate Abe, that’s why they made him their punching bag.

  • @sobrienaasc6274
    @sobrienaasc6274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You missed a LOT of the bad stuff, but you covered more of the okay-ish stuff I’ve seen. Thanks.

  • @noname-mi2we
    @noname-mi2we ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my main issue with the second season is how the large new main cast, while each character was a lot of fun at different times, made it so they all got utilized way less and had less opportunities for characterization and subplots that would let you get used to their characters. i enjoyed all of the new clones, i just wish there was more of them while also keeping enough screentime for the originals. god i missed cleo

  • @morocolaatdi3018
    @morocolaatdi3018 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I hate the fact this season feels like its a fanfic, or made for that kind of people, they made JFK dumber, less offensive, Abe more annoying and everything because they wanted to cater for THAT audience instead of doing their own path, and now Season 2 is forgotten and nobody is talking about it 👍 thanks HBO

  • @91n3tr33
    @91n3tr33 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Abe just has no fucking idea what to do without Ghandi

  • @TheRealArtDoctor
    @TheRealArtDoctor ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I hate everything about this version of clone high. It's not season 2, its a reboot and fails to capture the feel of the original. I refuse to believe the original writers were involved. They definitely just had their name used to give the show legs while they worked on across the spiderverse. This show is straight up completely different and just uses things that existed before. Scudworth and the robot are the only part of the show that actually look and sound like the original.

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s Erica Ravinoja who’s the showrunner, she basically is a real life Candide shoving a glass ceiling into the writer’s room. She came up with all the lame new characters Season 2 is dogshit.

    • @TheRealArtDoctor
      @TheRealArtDoctor ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @alecholland7369 Yeah, that explains a lot.

    • @Catyogurt.
      @Catyogurt. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i think the showrunner was busy with spiderverse while the first episodes came out, thats why they werent that good, but i can see why the other half got better since they came back
      to be honest still what do you expect from a show that came back after 20 years, they needed feedback so s3 will probably get better

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Catyogurt. the Clone High creators and Spiderverse guys wrote one episode, that’s it.

  • @dougantelope5013
    @dougantelope5013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I totally loved clone high back in the day

  • @FioreAteACrumpetOnce
    @FioreAteACrumpetOnce ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I pretty much fully agree with you

  • @megamax898
    @megamax898 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Different yes. Still good? Nah. It's very mid. Some of the jokes are as bad as Velma. You can tell the people who wrote this hated the 2000s and they wish people were more interested in the preachy and unfunny shows we have from the current generation of writers.

    • @megamax898
      @megamax898 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @algebrathemeow420 I think it is worse than Velma. Because with Velma I got the impression that the show was made to be hate watched. So if you go into it with a morbid curiosity, it's actually so bad it's good.

  • @teapeaa
    @teapeaa ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid!

  • @gktoliver
    @gktoliver ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk where else to comment this but ive been thinking the new season would have been better off without cleo as a main character, she didnt have anything to the entire season and her character had been flanderized enough that if she was cut out of the season nothing would have changed

  • @bestestbread
    @bestestbread ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree! Idk what else to say.

  • @TrenchMan93
    @TrenchMan93 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got zero issues with the new clone high. I think its a great fish out of water show where its the ridiculousness of each generation while also calling out things from both sides. Its really funny and great!

  • @gianni2003
    @gianni2003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering I wasn't even born when Clone High was around (I was born only a few months after season 1 ended), I didn't have an opportunity to watch it, until this year because I got curious and I loved season 1. Sadly tho, I didn't really like Season 2, which is a lot for me as I'm usually easily entertained. The last episodes tho were really good and gives me hope for the next one

  • @TheWarriorGirl123
    @TheWarriorGirl123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OKAY COMMENTING BEFORE I FINISH BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS INSANE FOR HAVING HEARD FORCED DESCRIPTIVE AUDIO???? which. admittedly did make that scene significantly funnier. and a few other scenes. BUT YEAH I STRAIGHT UP JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS LIKE,,,,PART OF THE EPISODE? AND THEN I SEE CLIPS LATER WITHOUT IT AND I WAS LIKE. AH.

    • @Kkeicyy_
      @Kkeicyy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "cleo licks her lipstick" "frida crashes through the wall, leaving a frida shaped hole"

  • @Basile.BowBow
    @Basile.BowBow ปีที่แล้ว

    Sackboy a big adventure music yay :)

  • @MatthewRatburg
    @MatthewRatburg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bring back Gandhi, and ditch Frida and Harriet

  • @faarml22
    @faarml22 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Its bad. Sorry but its still pretty bad, even the lasts episodes. They lost all the traction they had with the original getting popular and everyone loving it, now they polarized Clone High and they lost a big chunk of potential spectators that wanted to see more of the original show to continue.
    I must admit, is not horrible, is not painfully bad but its painfully mediocre compared to the original Clone High, specially with the stale humor and politicized parts of the new season, it feels like it was made for a small section of the fandom with how they changed all characters personalities and trama, I honestly think this would be much better if they rebooted this from start instead of following the original story just to destroy it and transform it in something that wasn't trying to be, a """serious"""" teen drama, instead of a parody.

    • @KevinLikesRTS
      @KevinLikesRTS ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. It’s bad dude. Nothing like the original.

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mediocre is a great way to put it. Pandering to modern audiences that loved the show enough to make it trend in 2021 is just weird and made for a huge disappointment.

    • @bruhlilicka1
      @bruhlilicka1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KevinLikesRTS cause its a reboot

    • @kotkafer2292
      @kotkafer2292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@bruhlilicka1 Its literally season 2 and follows the "plot" of the original. Google is free

    • @OzCroc
      @OzCroc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't get people who just want the same thing over and over again. I'm glad they tried something different.

  • @Acidburn1155
    @Acidburn1155 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you keep saying Calopatra?

    • @AmpleSamuel
      @AmpleSamuel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Frida Kahlo + Cleopatra = Kahlopatra

  • @mittenmitty2623
    @mittenmitty2623 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First!!!! Maybe!!! Idk

  • @ladalewatson-ch4im
    @ladalewatson-ch4im ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know it was a related ability in the first season that is nothing not not felt here and all the cast it's not funny no more the new characters don't ever look like the real self like Harriet Tubman

  • @jamil_the_noble_knight
    @jamil_the_noble_knight ปีที่แล้ว

    can you add an subtitle arabic

  • @berry5965
    @berry5965 ปีที่แล้ว

    i thought the gore was a major turn off so much of the season is unfunny..

  • @SchmergDergen
    @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t think it’s nostalgia when the first season is better then 2 in every single way.

  • @SchmergDergen
    @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Harriet directing the show is as funny as the show ever gets? What strain are you smoking? She was consistently the least funny main character…

    • @Bentrap15
      @Bentrap15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's fine if you hate the reboot but it kinda feels like Ur trashing this guy for just having an opinion.

  • @SchmergDergen
    @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I disagree with literally everything in this video. Joan being the lead doesn’t work at all, she’s so much better as an outsider.

    • @joeskys2362
      @joeskys2362 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I loved the original clone high, and then I saw the first ep of the second season. I hated seeing JFK, and Joan together as a couple. I also didn't laugh once during the whole episode. So I didn't even bother finishing the second season. You seem to be a fan of the original like me. So my question is simple, do you think this shit is still worth watching? 🤔

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joeskys2362 I don’t. I had. A few laughs throughout, it’s hard not to get a laugh or two with characters like JFK and Scudworth but no, skip this shit. It’s the show you remember, downgraded in every way possible.

    • @joeskys2362
      @joeskys2362 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchmergDergen Thanks for the honest opinion. At least I can always re-watch the 1st season.

  • @SchmergDergen
    @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว

    The finale is probably the best ep of season 2, doesn’t touch season 1 with all of the bad characters like Harriet and Confucius.

  • @Iexecutioner
    @Iexecutioner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nahh.... nah

  • @SchmergDergen
    @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No the show was great, season 2 is mediocre. The writers and show runner shot themselves in the foot consistently.

    • @Catyogurt.
      @Catyogurt. ปีที่แล้ว +5

      dude chillout u made 6 different comments spread out in 4 days LMFAO

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Catyogurt. and you read them all. The show is shit bro.

  • @IH8Usernam3s
    @IH8Usernam3s ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine being so wrong

  • @Talami771
    @Talami771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No they made it woke and cringe. All the new clones look like wojak memes