THANK YOU! Yes sitting with and experiencing those negative emotions have allowed me to process some of these negative impulsive reactions that have plagued me for so long.
I am a realist and just let everything be natural, my feelings, my emotions, etc. I didn't agree to anything at a higher level or sign any contracts before I got here. I don't know anything about frequencies, etc., I don't meditate, astral travel or talk with Jesus. I have had multiple experiences with the paranormal and if humans think they control anything they are deluded. I think this so-called journey is a roll of the dice and nothing was preplanned.
I respectfully disagree. I can understand how telling someone that phrase when they are in the middle of crisis is usually not helpful. What is needed is compassion and allowing that person to embrace all of their emotions. Including for ones own self. But I can say that after having faced multiple severe crisis of my own including the transistion of my 22 yr old son, that I found enormous peace and comfort knowing that there WAS a purpose in my pain. That it WAS a part of my journey. Sure, that phrase can be used to bypass, but not ALWAYS, not every time. That seems to me a rather extreme judgment on your part.
@@staciejean thanks for sharing your experience, I appreciate it. I’m really sorry to hear that you went through so much. I can feel that this video may have hit some edges for you around your own experiences. Yes - everything does eventually become part of our journey and if you can bring awareness to the lessons and patterns it can be a transformational experience where we own our pain and grow from it - it can even create purpose for our lives. Which is beautiful. Yes - this is a judgement of mine. Judgement isn’t bad, judgement is what keeps us safe. It’s the story our mind creates around judgement that can be a projection. This video may have made you feel judged for how you worked through your own experiences, which could be the projection. It sounds like you have created strength and purpose in your life despite what you have been through, which is incredible. My judgement has taught me that being dismissed is very unsafe and has consequences. I’ve seen this play out in many people’s lives as they try to process and heal from trauma - including my own. So the phrase ‘it’s part of your journey’ can be incredibly dismissive if the person saying it is avoiding the emotion and doesn’t know how to hold space for that person. We can also be dismissing ourselves when we fall into ‘it happened for a reason’, which is what I have done in the past.
@rayathorne Thank you for your response. It was not a projection of mine, just an observation. You invited anyone to "feel free to argue with you" in this video - so i decided to give my point of view. Not an argument by any means. Yes. I have had personal experiences with this perspective, but it has only served me in my healing journey. And thank you, I have worked very hard to allow my pain to break me open and grow my soul. It has been a something that I have taken very seriously. It concerns me that making a blanket statement about it being an all around negative phrase or frame of thought is not taking into consideration that there could be some individuals who have found comfort from such a belief system. Just because someone uses that phrase or believes that the horrible events in their lives are due to a choice their soul made to grow or learn, does not mean that they are in denial about such events, or bypassing their emotions by failing to fully acknowledge and feel their feelings. I'm sure you are right in that in SOME instances this could be the case, but definitely not all. And I am proof of that and I just thought you should know there may be others🤷♀️
@@staciejean I have no problem discussing this. I’m happy you’re challenging me - this is how society grows. I’m glad that phrase has helped you sit in the discomfort of what you have endured and come into a state of acceptance. My experience is that people have used that phase as a way to be dismissive and I stand by that due to the hundreds of people I have worked with. Sure - you maybe the exception to that rule but from my experience it’s always used as a way to bypass emotion on a conscious or unconscious level. So this video is in the form of a blanket statement because as soon as I say there are exceptions to the rule, people immediately assume they are the exception and continue to dismiss instead of getting curious, curiosity leads to healing. The blanket statement encourages the mind to get curious and question their position, even if it’s to oppose it.
@@rayathorne If working with hundreds of people you have arrived at one blanket point of view that applies to everyone, most likely this is your issue, what you find annoying, and you should look into yourself to discover the true source of your annoyance.
@ Jack, I’ve already addressed this in the video - the annoyance comes from the use of this statement to bypass the emotion and dismiss the experience. This can cause emotional breakdowns.
THANK YOU! Yes sitting with and experiencing those negative emotions have allowed me to process some of these negative impulsive reactions that have plagued me for so long.
Spiritual work is also shadow work which most just want to bypass. You are spot on.
I am a realist and just let everything be natural, my feelings, my emotions, etc. I didn't agree to anything at a higher level or sign any contracts before I got here. I don't know anything about frequencies, etc., I don't meditate, astral travel or talk with Jesus.
I have had multiple experiences with the paranormal and if humans think they control anything they are deluded. I think this so-called journey is a roll of the dice and nothing was preplanned.
thank you
Add your findings to the fact that these spiritual bypassings are...wait for it....ICONIC (Cringeworthy overused word)-the new AWESOME.
I respectfully disagree. I can understand how telling someone that phrase when they are in the middle of crisis is usually not helpful. What is needed is compassion and allowing that person to embrace all of their emotions. Including for ones own self.
But I can say that after having faced multiple severe crisis of my own including the transistion of my 22 yr old son, that I found enormous peace and comfort knowing that there WAS a purpose in my pain. That it WAS a part of my journey. Sure, that phrase can be used to bypass, but not ALWAYS, not every time. That seems to me a rather extreme judgment on your part.
@@staciejean thanks for sharing your experience, I appreciate it.
I’m really sorry to hear that you went through so much. I can feel that this video may have hit some edges for you around your own experiences.
Yes - everything does eventually become part of our journey and if you can bring awareness to the lessons and patterns it can be a transformational experience where we own our pain and grow from it - it can even create purpose for our lives. Which is beautiful.
Yes - this is a judgement of mine. Judgement isn’t bad, judgement is what keeps us safe. It’s the story our mind creates around judgement that can be a projection. This video may have made you feel judged for how you worked through your own experiences, which could be the projection. It sounds like you have created strength and purpose in your life despite what you have been through, which is incredible.
My judgement has taught me that being dismissed is very unsafe and has consequences. I’ve seen this play out in many people’s lives as they try to process and heal from trauma - including my own.
So the phrase ‘it’s part of your journey’ can be incredibly dismissive if the person saying it is avoiding the emotion and doesn’t know how to hold space for that person. We can also be dismissing ourselves when we fall into ‘it happened for a reason’, which is what I have done in the past.
@rayathorne Thank you for your response. It was not a projection of mine, just an observation. You invited anyone to "feel free to argue with you" in this video - so i decided to give my point of view. Not an argument by any means.
Yes. I have had personal experiences with this perspective, but it has only served me in my healing journey.
And thank you, I have worked very hard to allow my pain to break me open and grow my soul. It has been a something that I have taken very seriously. It concerns me that making a blanket statement about it being an all around negative phrase or frame of thought is not taking into consideration that there could be some individuals who have found comfort from such a belief system.
Just because someone uses that phrase or believes that the horrible events in their lives are due to a choice their soul made to grow or learn, does not mean that they are in denial about such events, or bypassing their emotions by failing to fully acknowledge and feel their feelings.
I'm sure you are right in that in SOME instances this could be the case, but definitely not all. And I am proof of that and I just thought you should know there may be others🤷♀️
@@staciejean
I have no problem discussing this. I’m happy you’re challenging me - this is how society grows. I’m glad that phrase has helped you sit in the discomfort of what you have endured and come into a state of acceptance.
My experience is that people have used that phase as a way to be dismissive and I stand by that due to the hundreds of people I have worked with. Sure - you maybe the exception to that rule but from my experience it’s always used as a way to bypass emotion on a conscious or unconscious level. So this video is in the form of a blanket statement because as soon as I say there are exceptions to the rule, people immediately assume they are the exception and continue to dismiss instead of getting curious, curiosity leads to healing. The blanket statement encourages the mind to get curious and question their position, even if it’s to oppose it.
@@rayathorne If working with hundreds of people you have arrived at one blanket point of view that applies to everyone, most likely this is your issue, what you find annoying, and you should look into yourself to discover the true source of your annoyance.
@ Jack, I’ve already addressed this in the video - the annoyance comes from the use of this statement to bypass the emotion and dismiss the experience. This can cause emotional breakdowns.
I want to invite you to my podcast!
LOL.. You are so right !