EDIT: So, around 9:45 or so in the video I talk about a confusing part of the plot where Dane seems to have hallucinated a fairly long level and assisted in Lala's kidnapping. Somewhere it's been clarified that's not what happens. What's supposed to have happened in that scene is that the bloody dress sends Dane into a psychotic break where he blacks out and beats up all his friends off-screen, then wakes up afterward and the game resumes. Clearing up this point of confusion does nothing to improve the story. It's a complete ass-pull by the writers to force the plot because they couldn't come up with a better reason for Dane to betray his friends. The entire plot also hinges on the implication that Robert somehow planned that sending Dane that dress would have this ludicrously specific result that drives the last few levels. In other words: even when explained the plot makes no damn sense. Still no word on what those superpowers were about.
Spider-Man : "I wanna help New York be a better place because Uncle Ben's death taught me to be more involved in stopping crime, and his last message made me realise that people matter and my powers should be used for good because I could ruin everything if I use them for my own personal gain. Including the people need a hero to look up to due to how much Crime has risen the past years." Batman: "I want to save Gotham from the poverty, crime and Corruption because I was affected by it at a young age. I want to save victims and even the criminals attached to it because their lives have a meaning too and they deserve Justice rather then Death, and many of them can change their path before it's too late. And Criminals and crimelords need something to fear or Crime itself is going to grow to unspeakable levels and Gotham will be a warzone." QM : "MY MOM'S DEAAADDD! WHY CAN'T I HEAR?! AAAAAA FUCKING MEXICANS" **Flails on the floor while his awful dad laughs at him.**
Are you kidding me? Bats narrow minded stance on "justice" has caused Gotham city more harm than good. Punching dudes out and letting the crooked criminal justice sort them out isn't going to accomplish anything. If he would stop acting like a sanctimonious jackass and break his rule every so often the insane sociopaths that openly mock his "justice" would start thinking twice about messing with him or his shithole city. It'd also keep the lesser forms of human waste in line.
Aiden Pearce: "I used my hacking skills to steal from other peoples bank accounts. But a heist has caused my niece to get killed; so I went out and seek vengeance. As I go on taking down a crime ring, the responsibility of my niece made me realize that I should use my hacker skills from Dedsec into something something that much for meaningful"
Here are three ways that you could do a game staring a deaf person work: 1: Make the game a mystery where the deaf character solves various crimes (and also not make it pretentious) 2: Have no spoken dialogue. At all. Have the game stories be told through body language, facial expressions, the scenery, and written notes. 3: DON'T SHOVE FLASHBACKS OF DEAD LOVED ONES DOWN OUR THROATS! And... wait, Square Enix made this?! Geez, and I though the story of Kingdom Hearts was incomprehensible.
To add to that, you could have subtitles for some scenes like when the protagonist saw sign language or if he could read people lips. Bonus points if subtitles end abruptly when he doesn’t look at them.
Gaben used to have this idea when visiting the associations of deaf people. Supposedly, Alyx, the deuteragonist of HL2 will extensively use sign language on the future installment of Half Life. Also, games that have its entire mechanics revolved on hearing to simulate blindness existed already. One of them is Blind Monks Society.
Don't you know? SE is the master of pretentious BS. When FF13 came out, the people behind it were so convinced that Lightning was the greatest protagonist ever made, that 13-3 was probably the director jerking off to Lightning wearing very seductive costumes, and the main mechanic of the game is literally dress-up simulator.
The lens flare in the corner is the game notifying you that you can use your focus mode. And no I have no clue as to how you would know that or why I told you since nobody should play this nor care about it's gameplay elements.
The devs know that deaf people can read labial right? This could have been a great game, put subtitles only for the people that the character sees the mouth of when speaking, and make them not clear subtitles but rather more generic ones, for instance. Then again, this whole game would need to be literally rewritten from the ground up. It's just stupid how they wasted a potentially good idea like this.
Also, you can make it first person. Perception was a first person horror game where the character you control is blind, and yet you can see what's going on. In a first person Quiet Man that's better made, you wouldn't be able to hear, but you'd be able to read.
And even that had more gameplay than this. If anything, I'd compare this game to The Order: 1886; where it's more cutscenes than gameplay, and it's all shit.
@@rachelzhou1590 Even The Order:1886 is better. At least the story doesn't make you want to slap the main character straight across the face multiple times overm
A least Dane (Or as another TH-camr calls him, [mett deamon]) won't have to hear any crap about saving Martha. There are a few ways you could make The Quiet Man better. 1: Make it first person. Zeno Clash did hand to hand combat pretty well in first person. The game could have had it so that you could see subtitles when you can see the speaker's face, or when you speak yourself, or when someone signs to you. If a character is wearing a mask, you'll only see subtitles when the latter happens. And blind people can still read, so there's no need to obscure the note. 2: Make it a horror game. Pretty good games about disabilities have been pretty intimidating without coming across as offensive. You got Perception which puts you in the role of a blind woman and she uses echolocation to evade whatever's hunting her. Like a... "a submarine, Mr. Wayne." Anyway, I do think the Quiet Man would benefit from being a horror game. The gameplay could focus more on stealth where you have to hide from forces stronger than you. The twist being that you can't hear the stalker moving, so you would need to rely on other cues to help. 3: Improved combat: If you're gonna keep it the hand to hand combat in any way, at least don't make it seem like Ride to Hell Retribution. 4: Please, for the love of God! Do some research about the topics you are covering. For example, lip reading is hard; maybe [mett deamnon] can only speak sign language when he's younger and then know lip reading as he gets older. And with the in engine cutscenes it's even harder to read lips, so give us some friggin subtitles. Actual deaf people have awareness about the world around them. And if you're going to satirize superhero fiction, do so in a way that makes sense. Spider Man wants to protect those he loves, Batman wants to protect victims of crime like him. [mett deamon] is not a hero. He's just an asshole who happens to be deaf. That isn't something you should be proud of.
I try to explain the plot as I see it: Dane is a boy with PTSD caused by his mother's death (this excuses the constant flashbacks shown in the game). After his mother's death (caused by a pair of shoes, I kid you not), the father started blaming Dane for shooting her, so he starts abusing the kid because yes. After these events, Dane began to create an "anti-hero" (?) called Quiet Man, which prevents him from hearing, possibly to replicate that day of the shot, where the gun made him deaf momentarily (don't ask why, already this game makes no sense), so at the start of the game, we're seeing Dane being taken over (in a little part) by this "anti-heroic spirit", that removes his hearing, implying that it makes him stronger and fearless. The end game sees this evil spirit take complete possession of Dane, so he is no longer only deaf, but also unable to use his body. the girl Dane loves is identical to his mother (who are both played by the same girl, the irony), so to him it means that he has a second chance to save her . the father knew about all this shit about the son *he* abused (don't ask why again), so he created a mask and forced Dane to awaken this Quiet Man in such a way as to take this evil spirit out of him. At the last scene, Dane hears but out of habit, he continues to use silent language.
This game is like the anti- Yakuza 0. Basically what I'm saying is, if you are looking for 3D bralwer with awesome gameplay and story, play that one instead of The Quiet Man.
This game makes me miss The Bouncer, a PS2 classic made by Square before they merged with Enix. It was far from perfect, but the story was decent and entertaining while having fun gameplay to boot. They'd have been better off remaking that game or make a sequel to it rather than make The Quiet Man. It also seems like someone with a lot of pull had this game made, because it doesn't seem like SE did a lot to promote the game other than show it off at E3. Like the head developer of this game had blackmail material on one of the higher ups or something. One more thing: favorite part of this video was the Road House bit. Great job!
So after looking at the interviews with the people who made this game, this seems just a catharsis for the producer. He seemed REALLY eager to show how deep this concept was. And it looks like much of the confusion that's inherent with this game is quite deliberate(according to the producers and creative people, don't exactly know how much of that was total BS) and they WANTED the player to piece together wtf was going on in the first place. The producer also said that he didn't intend for Dane to be a likeable character at all, and he just wrote him to be a person, not someone who is being heroic or is trying to do good, but just someone who is just trying to process his deep seated mental issues. If I were to venture a guess, Dane is just a self insert for the producer who himself might've had a messed up childhood(he met a deaf kid in a hospital and formed a friendship through video games apparently). Now looking back at this game, I can appreciate it for just a creator doing his best to stick to his vision. Obviously, problem is, it is very poorly done. It seemed like the people KNEW what they wanted to do, but didn't know how. The storytelling would've worked better if Dane BECAME deaf instead of just being born deaf. Why? Because we see that Dane processes words just like a normal person would, he understands what people say AS WORDS, hell, he even can put together intelligible sentences through speech as seen towards the end, whereas a born deaf person probably would've had a far different form of communication. Also, change the dad into a decent man who is struggling to understand his son and is trying his best to get them through a very emotional period in both their lives, instead of making him seem like a blood hungry man who is just spiting his son for no real fault of his own throughout his life, abusing the deaf boy mind you, and is literally contriving a gang war AND KIDNAPPING as a very poorly thought out AND very poorly reasoned revenge plot. Then at least, the 'trying to make amends' scene at the end would feel at least a little bit deserved. God I just don't even want to see this asshole father anywhere near people, least of all his own child!!!
Can you imagine how smart the developers must have felt with that tacked on "deconstruction" of Super Heroes at the end? They must have thought they were so smart with that. How is it that me, someone who HATES deconstruction Super Hero stories, can make a better deconstruction Super Hero story than these developers?
Let me put this way: EVEN TEEN TITANS GO WAS A BETTER DECONSTRUCTION SUPER HERO STORY THAN THAT!! How do you do that??! Unless you're Powerpuff Girls 2016, how the hell do you fail harder at being a parody more than the most hated reboot in cartoon history? At least Teen Titans Go was somewhat funny at points! The Quiet man is just incredibly lazy.
Everytime you die and you see a women's face, it feels like she's mocking you rather then making you feel sorry for Dane and his mom. Especially the flashback itself makes it harder to sympathize with them because both of them were being bunch of idiots. So whatever the mom appears at the game over screen, you just wanna shoot her. In fact of Dane's mom have not stood there like a zombie when two guys are struggling with a gun and Dane being like "Dddduuur gonna run up to them and wave hi like an idiot" then none of this would happen.
With the way this game encourages you to play through the game a second time reminds me of Ico. In that game, Ico and the player have no idea what Yorda is saying creating a language barrier as the two characters work together to escape. On the second playthrough, all of Yorda's subtitles are translated for the player to understand, adding to the replay value for the game. However, it works better than how The Quiet Man did it because the story is coherent enough the first time through and the gameplay is fun and varied. The translated subtitles are just added flavor and are not necessary to understand and enjoy the game whereas The Quiet Man does it to artificially elongate the game's lifespan to players.
My boi, it's 3AM, I swear your uploads are basically heaven for people with insomnia or work the night shift puts entertainment in boring ass shifts and nights Honestly, the quiet man was pretty fucking boring if you ask me, that's literally my entire experience summed up there everything else about it I let go because I was too bored to get into it
The Wikipedia entry says its written by a Marvel writer who did a lot of Deadpool so I definitely think there's a good chance of that superhero deconstruction take being the right one
Improper use of none the less, usually that phrase is usually used to imply something is what it is in spite of something........what you should have said was a poorly executed concept AT THAT.......or something to that effect
@@DorianCairne I know symbolism can be interesting and when is done well it can enrich the story (speaking about videogames), but this game does it poorly. My question was why all that symbolism when it's just "this guy misses his mom"
Off-topic but I spied Fist of the North Star on there--Hell, speaking of GOOD beat-em-up style adventure games that have powerful crime drama narratives, you ever play the mainline Yakuza series by chance? Became one of my favorites overnight when I first got into it back in like, 2009. 2018's been a helluva good year for the series with Yakuza 6, Kiwami 2 and Fist of the North Star all coming out
Wait. “Gang member tries to protect his girlfriend from other gang members” That’s literally part of the plot for The Darkness. Except that game can actually be fun as hell and there’s actual gameplay (plus in that you control freaking demons), and the story is actually good too. The Quiet Man is boring as hell. Gameplay and everything. Edit: not to mention, the main character of the darkness isn’t deaf so we can actually UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING GOING ON.
I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but I'll give Batman and Robin some credit... Batman: **Pulls out credit card** "Never leave the cave without it." No, not THAT kind of credit! Anyhow, Batman and Robin did something right that this game didn't. They don't actually have a flashback to Batman's dead parents. Wow. When you give Batman and Robin props, you know someone fucked up. They didn't have him flashing back because they figured everyone who watched Batman Forever would already know about it. Makes a lot of sense; who in their right mind would watch Batman and Robin unless they were fans of Forever and expected a decent sequel out of it? That was... me as a ten year old, even though Bane scared me away from it... I was dumb enough to not be scared away from Mr. Freeze's puns. But still, The Dark Knight was way better and came to the same conclusion, so screw everything. Forget this game and Batman and Robin, and go watch The Dark Knight... If you don't mind a little fictional terrorism.
I thought Square could never make something worse than The Bouncer. Then they issues The Bouncer 2 err I MEAN The Quiet Man and they proved me wrong...
I'm not sure which game have the most incomprehensible plot combined with shitty hand to hand fight out there: Ride to Hell or The Quiet Man. But I do know both games overuses the same 'Dead Loved One(s) Legacy' trope over and over again.
@@Darklordjadow1 By the way, you should try out Drake of the 99 Dragons. That game has less plot than either Ride to Hell or The Quiet Man, relies on so many cliches that you can count how many original stuff in there with one hand and having the most annoying third person shooting out there. Also, the flashback things, I'm pretty sure the MC has more flashbacks than every Vietnam veterans have combined
For the record, the whole confusing "hallucination" plot point is actually supposed to be Dane going on a psychotic rampage throughout Taye's gang because seeing the mask and the bloody dress triggered him or something. Nothing was hallucinated, it's just more piss-poor writing.
I've read that... and that makes even less sense. We're expected to buy that Dane just has a psychotic break that results in him beating up all of his friends AND that cop dad knew this is the exact thing that would happen. They pulled that twist straight out of their ass to force their idiot plot.
My experience with this game was I rented, beat it on the day I rented, then returned it on the day I rented due to how awful it was. Seriously I think I can make a game with a similar concept and premise to The Quiet Man and actually have it be somewhat decent.
And thanks to projects like these, FF7 remake will be continually delayed for eternity. Be the butt of Kingdom Hearts 3 jokes SQUARE!! You certainly earned it!!
Delta have a manga division yeah I believe I believe the the best thing they have I like to Fullmetal Alchemist where's my Fullmetal Alchemist world Kingdom Heart
I watched it too. The best part is when he begged for the green bandana guy to not appear again and a few minutes later, more of them showed up and he lost it.
Me: So how can we fuck with gamer's today? Demon Joe: RIDE TO HELL 2 Me: no they all will see that coming... how about The Quiet Man? Demon Joe: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.
Between you going off on the symbolism of Lala and Dane's mom and Rerez noticing the symbolism of Horus throughout the game, it seems that the game was more focused on symbolism over the actual story. I get the eerie feeling this game was another one that was meant to be a movie, but they couldn't find a studio that didn't laugh them out of the pitch meeting, so they threw in some half-assed gameplay and sold it as a video game.
The title ain't even original.. They flat out STOLE it from a romantic comedy movie of the same name starring John Wayne. ALso, DEAR GOD AND I THOUGHT THE DCEU WAS OVERLY PRETENTIOUS.. But THIS?.. This is just PAINFUL.
Did NOBODY from S.E seriously NOT think about how bad this idea is? Are we supposed to GUESS what in the name of Odin is going on? Or is this the type of game where you imagine the dialogue yourself? Even with the sound FINALLY on, it's still a gigantic, pretentious and pretty insulting bucket of piss. I think this is Enix's worst game since... *try not to vomit* Mindjack. Experiments should NOT be sold to the public for cry out loud. Maybe a good game will heal them wounds. While I await your Drake of the 99 Dragons review later so you won't have a mental breakdown, can I suggest Max Payne? All 3?
Wow, Human Head has actual credentials? I thought this was their first game and Square Enix was humoring them or something. If an actual dev made this crap that makes it all much more sad.
I reported that guy who was trolling, that's why the comment is now missing. Felt like doing it since he deserved it. (the LONG comment that was full of hate speech)
I didn't even notice the long comment of hate speech; when was it posted? It didn't pop up in my notifications. Thanks, regardless. We don't need that shit around here.
Tbh, that long comment of hate speech was so pathetically written that it made me laugh than be offended. So many grammar mistakes and stars for swearing, I have no idea if this guy fails at trolling or a 5 year old who has no idea how trolling works. I swear, that long comment is just comedy silver. Oh the comment is still there, but once you read it, you would laugh than actually get offended. I don't recommend take that comment seriously, not worth your time to be offended at.
So, this game must have been trying to emulate the film (yes there's a film called The Quiet Man) but as far as I'm aware, there's no mention of the main character being deaf, so that's already wrong between the movie and this game, in fact the film is entirely themed around Irish customs (which will likely have to be verified by those who know the customs to heart) and this game doesn't even seem to even have any Irish customs (again will likely have to be verified by those who know the customs to heart) Edit: also, surprised you didn't count the ones for when you "die" those would have inflated the count even higher.
Honestly I don't know a thing about sign language, but I can see the connection. Sign language is almost never used in the game. It's only used abruptly in the middle of conversation between the gangsters to convey a few words at a time. Off the top of my head it's used for "he'd be dead" "does she know" and "bullet in the wrong head". The usage is so sporadic and random the charge it's only used when it looks badass is pretty spot-on. The cop doesn't even use it with his son- though on the Answered playthrough it makes sense the asshole never bothered to learn it.
I don't know if I'd say it's understandable to hate someone merely for existing, especially if they mean well, even if they are poorly written. But what I can say is that when you say "roundhouse" you sound a tad like Peter Griffin saying "Roadhouse". Hehehehe.
Looks like Square didn't want to try with this one. They just wanted to get a pass for the symbolism and graphics but the gameplay is a laughable afterthought. The idea of patching in the sound later is silly too. If anything, that should just be something that the player unlocks after beating the game once because if anyone actually cared about the story, making them wait to get answers is a dick move. Not like the game has more than two playthroughs to it if that's the case. Those mom reminders are pretty bad too. Imagine if, through all the Arkham games, they kept flashing Bruce's parents on screen every few minutes because the developers think the player is too stupid to remember his motivation.
Aah, nice, was looking forward to you ripping into a crappy triple-A game. Not that I don't like the indie reviews, but the bad triple-A stuff is often juicer.
Tekken(2010) is somehow worse than MK:Annihilation. For the simple reason that for a fighting movie, THE FIGHT SCENES ARE HORRIBLY SHOT BEYOND BELIEF!! It is a miracle if you can follow even a single fight scene in the entire movie. So much quick cutting and shaky cam!!!
Also how is anyone this guy's friend when all he does is emo scowl at everyone? And what kind of psychotic father rub his son's back comfortingly while saying "this is all because of you, I will never forgive you for what you took from me" like no wonder the kid turned out to be an emo loser
so wait not only is the plot impossible to understand do to most of it being spoken while you can't hear anything the parts that you are shown also make no god dammed sense square is making bmc look good at writing and that's sad
What is all these triple A gaming companies doing honestly so much disappointing games. 1 sure thought Bethesda was the only one cause of fallout 76. I have lost faith in developers now. They only know how to disappoint gamers and not meet their requirements of experiencing a new generation game 😐.
With Bethesda, it's understandable since they thought they could get away with a game with all the bugs from Fallout 4 in the forefront, and realized that you can't continue making games with bugs and lazy production. With Square Enix, I have no idea other then this was a side project, that was an experiment and nothing else.
@@Darklordjadow1 It was a pretty good villian on Fantastic Four (2014 series). He literally was after the reason of the teams fall (blaming Ben for murder máster puppet, getting Johnny depowered, reed And susan getting separarte from their kids cuz child servecies), And even has so smart when he got cáncer, he did a cure for himself And then use It but destroy the fórmula, so no one could live longer than he. If You are interes, go checkout that series, It actually pretty good
Jesus Christ, I was about to ask if it was made by some third party company that was sponsored by square much like life is strange but I guess that isnt the case. They had no excuse for this. They should have at least used the fighting mechanics and variation of enemies much like the bouncer so there is some intricacies in the fighting but clearly they failed that royally. Ya too much pretentiousness in there to not even be insulting.
@tomtcom It was made by third party company. Square just published it. Still, considering this studio has worked on the likes of Prey, Bioshock Infinite, and Batman Arkham Origins, there’s still no excuse as to why it turned out this bad.
I honestly don't know if it's still actually on my hard drive; I run out of space a lot. I keep thinking that I may pop it in for a quick dose of wtf sometime.
Over 2 years later and after seeing the disasters that were Anthem, Marvel's Avengers and Cyberpunk 2077, I'd say Triple A games most definitely can keep getting worse.
Literally the only thing that’s worthwhile in this game seems to be the satisfaction of beating up bad guys. Everything else is just an absolute trainwreck. It would’ve been more acceptable as an indie title.
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EDIT:
So, around 9:45 or so in the video I talk about a confusing part of the plot where Dane seems to have hallucinated a fairly long level and assisted in Lala's kidnapping. Somewhere it's been clarified that's not what happens.
What's supposed to have happened in that scene is that the bloody dress sends Dane into a psychotic break where he blacks out and beats up all his friends off-screen, then wakes up afterward and the game resumes.
Clearing up this point of confusion does nothing to improve the story. It's a complete ass-pull by the writers to force the plot because they couldn't come up with a better reason for Dane to betray his friends. The entire plot also hinges on the implication that Robert somehow planned that sending Dane that dress would have this ludicrously specific result that drives the last few levels.
In other words: even when explained the plot makes no damn sense.
Still no word on what those superpowers were about.
I seen this review 30 f##king times
The reason it triggers him is because I’m pretty sure that’s the dress his mom was shot in. Still stupid though.
Spider-Man : "I wanna help New York be a better place because Uncle Ben's death taught me to be more involved in stopping crime, and his last message made me realise that people matter and my powers should be used for good because I could ruin everything if I use them for my own personal gain. Including the people need a hero to look up to due to how much Crime has risen the past years."
Batman: "I want to save Gotham from the poverty, crime and Corruption because I was affected by it at a young age. I want to save victims and even the criminals attached to it because their lives have a meaning too and they deserve Justice rather then Death, and many of them can change their path before it's too late. And Criminals and crimelords need something to fear or Crime itself is going to grow to unspeakable levels and Gotham will be a warzone."
QM : "MY MOM'S DEAAADDD! WHY CAN'T I HEAR?! AAAAAA FUCKING MEXICANS" **Flails on the floor while his awful dad laughs at him.**
In other words, AN ACTUAL CHARACTER!! Which QM isn't!
You gotta love how QM is written like an 8-year old trying to be edgy and emo
Are you kidding me? Bats narrow minded stance on "justice" has caused Gotham city more harm than good. Punching dudes out and letting the crooked criminal justice sort them out isn't going to accomplish anything. If he would stop acting like a sanctimonious jackass and break his rule every so often the insane sociopaths that openly mock his "justice" would start thinking twice about messing with him or his shithole city. It'd also keep the lesser forms of human waste in line.
Aiden Pearce: "I used my hacking skills to steal from other peoples bank accounts. But a heist has caused my niece to get killed; so I went out and seek vengeance. As I go on taking down a crime ring, the responsibility of my niece made me realize that I should use my hacker skills from Dedsec into something something that much for meaningful"
Here are three ways that you could do a game staring a deaf person work:
1: Make the game a mystery where the deaf character solves various crimes (and also not make it pretentious)
2: Have no spoken dialogue. At all. Have the game stories be told through body language, facial expressions, the scenery, and written notes.
3: DON'T SHOVE FLASHBACKS OF DEAD LOVED ONES DOWN OUR THROATS!
And... wait, Square Enix made this?! Geez, and I though the story of Kingdom Hearts was incomprehensible.
iGht
To add to that, you could have subtitles for some scenes like when the protagonist saw sign language or if he could read people lips. Bonus points if subtitles end abruptly when he doesn’t look at them.
Gaben used to have this idea when visiting the associations of deaf people. Supposedly, Alyx, the deuteragonist of HL2 will extensively use sign language on the future installment of Half Life. Also, games that have its entire mechanics revolved on hearing to simulate blindness existed already. One of them is Blind Monks Society.
Don't you know? SE is the master of pretentious BS. When FF13 came out, the people behind it were so convinced that Lightning was the greatest protagonist ever made, that 13-3 was probably the director jerking off to Lightning wearing very seductive costumes, and the main mechanic of the game is literally dress-up simulator.
Well, Square Enix atleast published it. The developer is Human Head Studios.
The lens flare in the corner is the game notifying you that you can use your focus mode.
And no I have no clue as to how you would know that or why I told you since nobody should play this nor care about it's gameplay elements.
This dude has more flashbacks to his mom than Jin from the Tekken movie.
That movie is actually really awesome
The devs know that deaf people can read labial right? This could have been a great game, put subtitles only for the people that the character sees the mouth of when speaking, and make them not clear subtitles but rather more generic ones, for instance. Then again, this whole game would need to be literally rewritten from the ground up. It's just stupid how they wasted a potentially good idea like this.
Also, you can make it first person. Perception was a first person horror game where the character you control is blind, and yet you can see what's going on. In a first person Quiet Man that's better made, you wouldn't be able to hear, but you'd be able to read.
Ah the quiet man, this year's ride to hell
And even that had more gameplay than this.
If anything, I'd compare this game to The Order: 1886; where it's more cutscenes than gameplay, and it's all shit.
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Even The Order:1886 is better. At least the story doesn't make you want to slap the main character straight across the face multiple times overm
Minus heavy misogyny
@@roadbreach And stiff driving levels.
A least Dane (Or as another TH-camr calls him, [mett deamon]) won't have to hear any crap about saving Martha. There are a few ways you could make The Quiet Man better.
1: Make it first person. Zeno Clash did hand to hand combat pretty well in first person. The game could have had it so that you could see subtitles when you can see the speaker's face, or when you speak yourself, or when someone signs to you. If a character is wearing a mask, you'll only see subtitles when the latter happens. And blind people can still read, so there's no need to obscure the note.
2: Make it a horror game. Pretty good games about disabilities have been pretty intimidating without coming across as offensive. You got Perception which puts you in the role of a blind woman and she uses echolocation to evade whatever's hunting her. Like a... "a submarine, Mr. Wayne." Anyway, I do think the Quiet Man would benefit from being a horror game. The gameplay could focus more on stealth where you have to hide from forces stronger than you. The twist being that you can't hear the stalker moving, so you would need to rely on other cues to help.
3: Improved combat: If you're gonna keep it the hand to hand combat in any way, at least don't make it seem like Ride to Hell Retribution.
4: Please, for the love of God! Do some research about the topics you are covering. For example, lip reading is hard; maybe [mett deamnon] can only speak sign language when he's younger and then know lip reading as he gets older. And with the in engine cutscenes it's even harder to read lips, so give us some friggin subtitles. Actual deaf people have awareness about the world around them. And if you're going to satirize superhero fiction, do so in a way that makes sense. Spider Man wants to protect those he loves, Batman wants to protect victims of crime like him. [mett deamon] is not a hero. He's just an asshole who happens to be deaf. That isn't something you should be proud of.
I try to explain the plot as I see it:
Dane is a boy with PTSD caused by his mother's death (this excuses the constant flashbacks shown in the game).
After his mother's death (caused by a pair of shoes, I kid you not), the father started blaming Dane for shooting her, so he starts abusing the kid because yes. After these events, Dane began to create an "anti-hero" (?) called Quiet Man, which prevents him from hearing, possibly to replicate that day of the shot, where the gun made him deaf momentarily (don't ask why, already this game makes no sense), so at the start of the game, we're seeing Dane being taken over (in a little part) by this "anti-heroic spirit", that removes his hearing, implying that it makes him stronger and fearless.
The end game sees this evil spirit take complete possession of Dane, so he is no longer only deaf, but also unable to use his body.
the girl Dane loves is identical to his mother (who are both played by the same girl, the irony), so to him it means that he has a second chance to save her
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the father knew about all this shit about the son *he* abused (don't ask why again), so he created a mask and forced Dane to awaken this Quiet Man in such a way as to take this evil spirit out of him.
At the last scene, Dane hears but out of habit, he continues to use silent language.
This game is like the anti- Yakuza 0.
Basically what I'm saying is, if you are looking for 3D bralwer with awesome gameplay and story, play that one instead of The Quiet Man.
Funny, I was considering it the poor man's Project JUDGE. Comparison's bound to end up the same tho
To me its like a lobotomized Sleeping Dogs
Thanks, I'll look for that when I get a PS4.
This game makes me miss The Bouncer, a PS2 classic made by Square before they merged with Enix. It was far from perfect, but the story was decent and entertaining while having fun gameplay to boot. They'd have been better off remaking that game or make a sequel to it rather than make The Quiet Man.
It also seems like someone with a lot of pull had this game made, because it doesn't seem like SE did a lot to promote the game other than show it off at E3. Like the head developer of this game had blackmail material on one of the higher ups or something.
One more thing: favorite part of this video was the Road House bit. Great job!
I have looked up and the actor who does Dane here is name James Gerald Hicks and I seen he showed up in a episode of the boys
So after looking at the interviews with the people who made this game, this seems just a catharsis for the producer. He seemed REALLY eager to show how deep this concept was. And it looks like much of the confusion that's inherent with this game is quite deliberate(according to the producers and creative people, don't exactly know how much of that was total BS) and they WANTED the player to piece together wtf was going on in the first place. The producer also said that he didn't intend for Dane to be a likeable character at all, and he just wrote him to be a person, not someone who is being heroic or is trying to do good, but just someone who is just trying to process his deep seated mental issues. If I were to venture a guess, Dane is just a self insert for the producer who himself might've had a messed up childhood(he met a deaf kid in a hospital and formed a friendship through video games apparently).
Now looking back at this game, I can appreciate it for just a creator doing his best to stick to his vision. Obviously, problem is, it is very poorly done. It seemed like the people KNEW what they wanted to do, but didn't know how. The storytelling would've worked better if Dane BECAME deaf instead of just being born deaf. Why? Because we see that Dane processes words just like a normal person would, he understands what people say AS WORDS, hell, he even can put together intelligible sentences through speech as seen towards the end, whereas a born deaf person probably would've had a far different form of communication.
Also, change the dad into a decent man who is struggling to understand his son and is trying his best to get them through a very emotional period in both their lives, instead of making him seem like a blood hungry man who is just spiting his son for no real fault of his own throughout his life, abusing the deaf boy mind you, and is literally contriving a gang war AND KIDNAPPING as a very poorly thought out AND very poorly reasoned revenge plot. Then at least, the 'trying to make amends' scene at the end would feel at least a little bit deserved. God I just don't even want to see this asshole father anywhere near people, least of all his own child!!!
Can you imagine how smart the developers must have felt with that tacked on "deconstruction" of Super Heroes at the end? They must have thought they were so smart with that. How is it that me, someone who HATES deconstruction Super Hero stories, can make a better deconstruction Super Hero story than these developers?
Let me put this way: EVEN TEEN TITANS GO WAS A BETTER DECONSTRUCTION SUPER HERO STORY THAN THAT!! How do you do that??! Unless you're Powerpuff Girls 2016, how the hell do you fail harder at being a parody more than the most hated reboot in cartoon history? At least Teen Titans Go was somewhat funny at points! The Quiet man is just incredibly lazy.
Everytime you die and you see a women's face, it feels like she's mocking you rather then making you feel sorry for Dane and his mom. Especially the flashback itself makes it harder to sympathize with them because both of them were being bunch of idiots. So whatever the mom appears at the game over screen, you just wanna shoot her.
In fact of Dane's mom have not stood there like a zombie when two guys are struggling with a gun and Dane being like "Dddduuur gonna run up to them and wave hi like an idiot" then none of this would happen.
With the way this game encourages you to play through the game a second time reminds me of Ico. In that game, Ico and the player have no idea what Yorda is saying creating a language barrier as the two characters work together to escape. On the second playthrough, all of Yorda's subtitles are translated for the player to understand, adding to the replay value for the game. However, it works better than how The Quiet Man did it because the story is coherent enough the first time through and the gameplay is fun and varied. The translated subtitles are just added flavor and are not necessary to understand and enjoy the game whereas The Quiet Man does it to artificially elongate the game's lifespan to players.
Also i am pretty sure the quiet man doesn't give you a Light Saber on your second playtrought.
So again Ico Wins.
The Anime Abandon Rule: Never repress the counting gag.
My boi, it's 3AM, I swear your uploads are basically heaven for people with insomnia or work the night shift puts entertainment in boring ass shifts and nights
Honestly, the quiet man was pretty fucking boring if you ask me, that's literally my entire experience summed up there everything else about it I let go because I was too bored to get into it
Fun fact, red/blue lense flair in the corner is the indicator for the rage mode.
This would have made an interesting game, had it been in the hands of someone who knew what they were doing.
The Wikipedia entry says its written by a Marvel writer who did a lot of Deadpool so I definitely think there's a good chance of that superhero deconstruction take being the right one
this is what happens when The Crow and Ride to Hell do the fusion dance
Ironically both are about retribution
0:22 the Fullmetal Alchemist at the same company
The Quiet man more like the Quiet scam.........
Thank you will be around every review
Dane is an even bigger Mama's boy than Steppenwolf
This isn't a game. It's a concept.
And a very poorly executed concept, nonetheless.
Emily Grayson the developers really don’t know about deaf people
@@MrBrandonStar They apparently know about themes or symbolism either.
Improper use of none the less, usually that phrase is usually used to imply something is what it is in spite of something........what you should have said was a poorly executed concept AT THAT.......or something to that effect
If this game had elements of German Expressionism, I would have loved it.
I have so many questions. What is wrong with having a simple or straightforward plot? Why all that symbolism? Was that superhero element afterthought?
Symbolism can be an interesting way of adding flavour and mystery to a plot when it's done well. This game did not do it well.
@@DorianCairne I know symbolism can be interesting and when is done well it can enrich the story (speaking about videogames), but this game does it poorly. My question was why all that symbolism when it's just "this guy misses his mom"
Off-topic but I spied Fist of the North Star on there--Hell, speaking of GOOD beat-em-up style adventure games that have powerful crime drama narratives, you ever play the mainline Yakuza series by chance? Became one of my favorites overnight when I first got into it back in like, 2009. 2018's been a helluva good year for the series with Yakuza 6, Kiwami 2 and Fist of the North Star all coming out
Wait.
“Gang member tries to protect his girlfriend from other gang members”
That’s literally part of the plot for The Darkness. Except that game can actually be fun as hell and there’s actual gameplay (plus in that you control freaking demons), and the story is actually good too. The Quiet Man is boring as hell. Gameplay and everything.
Edit: not to mention, the main character of the darkness isn’t deaf so we can actually UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING GOING ON.
And majima's plot in Yakuza 0
This game existed
Why the hell are we still doing Full Motion Video in 2018?
We already have created game engines that make our models look photo realistic
I love how his name is Dane considering he looks like a dollar store Dane Dehaan.
I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but I'll give Batman and Robin some credit...
Batman: **Pulls out credit card** "Never leave the cave without it."
No, not THAT kind of credit! Anyhow, Batman and Robin did something right that this game didn't. They don't actually have a flashback to Batman's dead parents. Wow. When you give Batman and Robin props, you know someone fucked up. They didn't have him flashing back because they figured everyone who watched Batman Forever would already know about it. Makes a lot of sense; who in their right mind would watch Batman and Robin unless they were fans of Forever and expected a decent sequel out of it? That was... me as a ten year old, even though Bane scared me away from it... I was dumb enough to not be scared away from Mr. Freeze's puns. But still, The Dark Knight was way better and came to the same conclusion, so screw everything. Forget this game and Batman and Robin, and go watch The Dark Knight... If you don't mind a little fictional terrorism.
I thought Square could never make something worse than The Bouncer. Then they issues The Bouncer 2 err I MEAN The Quiet Man and they proved me wrong...
I'm not sure which game have the most incomprehensible plot combined with shitty hand to hand fight out there: Ride to Hell or The Quiet Man.
But I do know both games overuses the same 'Dead Loved One(s) Legacy' trope over and over again.
@@Darklordjadow1 By the way, you should try out Drake of the 99 Dragons. That game has less plot than either Ride to Hell or The Quiet Man, relies on so many cliches that you can count how many original stuff in there with one hand and having the most annoying third person shooting out there.
Also, the flashback things, I'm pretty sure the MC has more flashbacks than every Vietnam veterans have combined
For the record, the whole confusing "hallucination" plot point is actually supposed to be Dane going on a psychotic rampage throughout Taye's gang because seeing the mask and the bloody dress triggered him or something. Nothing was hallucinated, it's just more piss-poor writing.
I've read that... and that makes even less sense. We're expected to buy that Dane just has a psychotic break that results in him beating up all of his friends AND that cop dad knew this is the exact thing that would happen. They pulled that twist straight out of their ass to force their idiot plot.
what you said about that whole taking pot shots at superheroes, i think even zack snyder fans would call BS on this game now
My experience with this game was I rented, beat it on the day I rented, then returned it on the day I rented due to how awful it was. Seriously I think I can make a game with a similar concept and premise to The Quiet Man and actually have it be somewhat decent.
2:50 They should at least show their mouth, so I can do Lip's Reading or something. 😑
And thanks to projects like these, FF7 remake will be continually delayed for eternity. Be the butt of Kingdom Hearts 3 jokes SQUARE!! You certainly earned it!!
Delta have a manga division yeah I believe I believe the the best thing they have I like to Fullmetal Alchemist where's my Fullmetal Alchemist world Kingdom Heart
It's out now.
@@Redjoekido
Yeah ... I realize my comment aged like sour milk, lulz!!
I'm half convinced that this game was going to be a normal beat em up but the devs didn't feel like implementing dialogue.
Spoony referenced in The Inhumans review, Film Brain here. I’m have reviewer nostalgia XD
Quiet Man vs Hunt Down the Freeman
I completely forgot that Hunt Down the Freeman came out this year; that definitely wins worst game of the year over The Quiet Man.
You say as you jump to the second pipe....
The quiet man ? Never know this game exists
You can say that it was...really quiet? I'll show myself out
tomtcom yup
I saw angry joe play this, and MY GOD! THIS THING SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A GAME!!
I watched it too. The best part is when he begged for the green bandana guy to not appear again and a few minutes later, more of them showed up and he lost it.
Yuri Watanabe remind me of hawk girl and kingpin is just like bane sotra
For some reason this game reminds me of Quantum Break in a way, only QB did the FMV thing better.
Yeah
12:39
She laughts at you because you paid for the game.
Jiminy Crickets on how slow it is 5:53
They probably fucked up the audio then took it out and said it was a game gimmick
27:42 Crash Bandicoot insane trilogy Metal Gear Solid 5
Me: So how can we fuck with gamer's today? Demon Joe: RIDE TO HELL 2 Me: no they all will see that coming... how about The Quiet Man? Demon Joe: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.
If you're having a bad day just skip to this part
13:21
Between you going off on the symbolism of Lala and Dane's mom and Rerez noticing the symbolism of Horus throughout the game, it seems that the game was more focused on symbolism over the actual story. I get the eerie feeling this game was another one that was meant to be a movie, but they couldn't find a studio that didn't laugh them out of the pitch meeting, so they threw in some half-assed gameplay and sold it as a video game.
So I guess anyone who's said Life is Strange is the worst thing Square has attached their name to can shut the hell up.
That's strange. I always thought the worst Square game was Final Fantasy 2. Also, no pun intended on that "strange" part.
The Shite Man.
#NotificationSquaaaaad
The title ain't even original.. They flat out STOLE it from a romantic comedy movie of the same name starring John Wayne. ALso, DEAR GOD AND I THOUGHT THE DCEU WAS OVERLY PRETENTIOUS.. But THIS?.. This is just PAINFUL.
Also, this is how you say 'This game sucks' in sign langugae: funtranslations.com/sign-language
11:34 Niel Druckman would be proud. 😄
lost my shit when you counted all the mother flash backs
Did NOBODY from S.E seriously NOT think about how bad this idea is? Are we supposed to GUESS what in the name of Odin is going on? Or is this the type of game where you imagine the dialogue yourself? Even with the sound FINALLY on, it's still a gigantic, pretentious and pretty insulting bucket of piss.
I think this is Enix's worst game since... *try not to vomit* Mindjack. Experiments should NOT be sold to the public for cry out loud.
Maybe a good game will heal them wounds.
While I await your Drake of the 99 Dragons review later so you won't have a mental breakdown, can I suggest Max Payne? All 3?
To think this was developed by Human Head Studios (yes, the same Human Head behind Prey (2006))...
+LudicrousFool79 Wait, seriously? I thought this was just an indie game that Square picked up for whatever reason.
MP Reviews Yes, this game was really developed by Human Head.
Wow, Human Head has actual credentials?
I thought this was their first game and Square Enix was humoring them or something. If an actual dev made this crap that makes it all much more sad.
Darklordjadow1 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Head_Studios
@@ludicrousfool7953 I am honestly speechless. Those guys have almost 2 decades of experience; they made Arkham Origins... and they did this?
Jeez...
I hate this game already
I reported that guy who was trolling, that's why the comment is now missing. Felt like doing it since he deserved it. (the LONG comment that was full of hate speech)
I didn't even notice the long comment of hate speech; when was it posted? It didn't pop up in my notifications.
Thanks, regardless. We don't need that shit around here.
Tbh, that long comment of hate speech was so pathetically written that it made me laugh than be offended. So many grammar mistakes and stars for swearing, I have no idea if this guy fails at trolling or a 5 year old who has no idea how trolling works. I swear, that long comment is just comedy silver.
Oh the comment is still there, but once you read it, you would laugh than actually get offended. I don't recommend take that comment seriously, not worth your time to be offended at.
So, this game must have been trying to emulate the film (yes there's a film called The Quiet Man) but as far as I'm aware, there's no mention of the main character being deaf, so that's already wrong between the movie and this game, in fact the film is entirely themed around Irish customs (which will likely have to be verified by those who know the customs to heart) and this game doesn't even seem to even have any Irish customs (again will likely have to be verified by those who know the customs to heart)
Edit: also, surprised you didn't count the ones for when you "die" those would have inflated the count even higher.
I heard from somewhere that the ASL in the story was somehow associated with gang signs - ever see any of that?
Honestly I don't know a thing about sign language, but I can see the connection.
Sign language is almost never used in the game. It's only used abruptly in the middle of conversation between the gangsters to convey a few words at a time. Off the top of my head it's used for "he'd be dead" "does she know" and "bullet in the wrong head". The usage is so sporadic and random the charge it's only used when it looks badass is pretty spot-on.
The cop doesn't even use it with his son- though on the Answered playthrough it makes sense the asshole never bothered to learn it.
What I can't figure out is why everyone is interacting with Dane as if he can hear is pretty obtuse. Like they obviously don't know he's deaf maybe
27:49 so you do have deadpool, will you be reviewing it?
I could, but I just thought that past the intro that game was just kinda okay. Really bland.
@@Darklordjadow1 i know its repatative after a while, but its deadpool, i still get laughs out of it
@@Darklordjadow1 how about a Lets Play of it?
@@Darklordjadow1yeah, it’s not bad enough to rip apart. It gets boring fast, but it’s still miles better than half the garbage you play.
Why does the combat in this game remind me of Enter the Matrix?
Don't know; I haven't gotten to that one yet.
This could worked with its interesting concept but because of the shitty gameplay it fails.
The singers name is “Lala”? What is this, Teletubbies?
I don't know if I'd say it's understandable to hate someone merely for existing, especially if they mean well, even if they are poorly written. But what I can say is that when you say "roundhouse" you sound a tad like Peter Griffin saying "Roadhouse". Hehehehe.
Mystery Diners is better
10:26 MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA
1:39 That's not a tux. Wearing a suit at night does not make it a tux.
Looks like Square didn't want to try with this one. They just wanted to get a pass for the symbolism and graphics but the gameplay is a laughable afterthought. The idea of patching in the sound later is silly too. If anything, that should just be something that the player unlocks after beating the game once because if anyone actually cared about the story, making them wait to get answers is a dick move. Not like the game has more than two playthroughs to it if that's the case.
Those mom reminders are pretty bad too. Imagine if, through all the Arkham games, they kept flashing Bruce's parents on screen every few minutes because the developers think the player is too stupid to remember his motivation.
@CareeseFangirlForever Square didn’t make it. They only published it.
I'll eternally find it funny that Square Enix has become the Lionsgate of Game Publishers, they will publish any pile of crap.
Who came back here after watching Rerez' review of this game?
Is it all the money for all the money for Final Fantasy 15 yeah that's why we don't got the DLC they spent all the money on this game
Aah, nice, was looking forward to you ripping into a crappy triple-A game. Not that I don't like the indie reviews, but the bad triple-A stuff is often juicer.
+DorianCairne This isn’t triple A. It’s indie with a triple a publisher’s name slapped on it.
And somehow still more competent then fallout 76.
Well, at least not as glitchy.
Holy crap that woman's shoulders
wait what the fuck a major studio made an fmv game?
You should watch the tekken (2010) movie you'll love it
Oh no; I saw Spoony's review of that movie. I know it's a trap!
Tekken(2010) is somehow worse than MK:Annihilation. For the simple reason that for a fighting movie, THE FIGHT SCENES ARE HORRIBLY SHOT BEYOND BELIEF!! It is a miracle if you can follow even a single fight scene in the entire movie. So much quick cutting and shaky cam!!!
Also how is anyone this guy's friend when all he does is emo scowl at everyone? And what kind of psychotic father rub his son's back comfortingly while saying "this is all because of you, I will never forgive you for what you took from me" like no wonder the kid turned out to be an emo loser
At least the Hawkeye series had a positive depiction of a deaf person. Well positive in that she's a badass, not that she's a good person.
Nor a good character to begin with.
No one asked.
so wait not only is the plot impossible to understand do to most of it being spoken while you can't hear anything the parts that you are shown also make no god dammed sense square is making bmc look good at writing and that's sad
What is all these triple A gaming companies doing honestly so much disappointing games. 1 sure thought Bethesda was the only one cause of fallout 76. I have lost faith in developers now. They only know how to disappoint gamers and not meet their requirements of experiencing a new generation game 😐.
With Bethesda, it's understandable since they thought they could get away with a game with all the bugs from Fallout 4 in the forefront, and realized that you can't continue making games with bugs and lazy production.
With Square Enix, I have no idea other then this was a side project, that was an experiment and nothing else.
that woman is gorgeous 😍
Fun fact: there is an actual Marvel caracther named "quiet man"
That doesn't surprise me, but I'm betting that he's a better character than this game's version.
@@Darklordjadow1 It was a pretty good villian on Fantastic Four (2014 series). He literally was after the reason of the teams fall (blaming Ben for murder máster puppet, getting Johnny depowered, reed And susan getting separarte from their kids cuz child servecies), And even has so smart when he got cáncer, he did a cure for himself And then use It but destroy the fórmula, so no one could live longer than he. If You are interes, go checkout that series, It actually pretty good
Jesus Christ, I was about to ask if it was made by some third party company that was sponsored by square much like life is strange but I guess that isnt the case. They had no excuse for this. They should have at least used the fighting mechanics and variation of enemies much like the bouncer so there is some intricacies in the fighting but clearly they failed that royally. Ya too much pretentiousness in there to not even be insulting.
@tomtcom It was made by third party company. Square just published it. Still, considering this studio has worked on the likes of Prey, Bioshock Infinite, and Batman Arkham Origins, there’s still no excuse as to why it turned out this bad.
Why do you still have life of black tiger on your PS4?
I honestly don't know if it's still actually on my hard drive; I run out of space a lot.
I keep thinking that I may pop it in for a quick dose of wtf sometime.
you want a positive portrayal of a deaf person watch dragon prince on netflix
I thought that deaf feature was added because they had some problems with sound and they had no time to solve them before the deadline)))
Could Triple A games get any worse? We already have Fallout 76 and it was a disappointment, and now this.
Over 2 years later and after seeing the disasters that were Anthem, Marvel's Avengers and Cyberpunk 2077, I'd say Triple A games most definitely can keep getting worse.
Literally the only thing that’s worthwhile in this game seems to be the satisfaction of beating up bad guys. Everything else is just an absolute trainwreck. It would’ve been more acceptable as an indie title.
with that hairstyle we can assume hes(am I assuming his/hergender?) gay as well.
Yea looks dreadful. I firmly believe that that class-a bmu is not dead but Square-Enix has spent the last 2 decades trying to kill it.
Wolverine! 13:26
He should of stayed quiet.