Even more impressive than Sebastian's win in Monza in 2008 was the fact that he single-handedly trashed not only the "mothership" but also the combined points tally of the three other Red Bull drivers on the grid (DC, Webber, Bourdais) that season. A feat no other Red Bull "junior driver" before or after him could ever replicate.
He basically single-handedly ruined Bourdais' F1 career in doing so, after that one'd previously won four back-to-back Indycar titles and was running 4th in his first F1 race before his car failed with a lap to go. After that, Vettel dominated him in a midfield team to an extent that people actually thought Bourdais wasn't that good of a driver. In truth it was just that the young Seb was so phenomenal.
@@Tvl010 Indycar before the early 2010s was literally a bunch of drivers who failed to reach CART before the series separated. You don’t know what you’re talking about
Both cars were both designed by Newey by Torro Rosso had a more powerful engine. Also hsi teammate qualified 4th suggesting that the "junior car" was very strong that race.
Facts. Only a champion when the car was really right up there without too many worries, while being in a RB situation where a second driver isn't allowed to do anything anyway.
As a huge Vettel fan, he has gotten weak mentally especially in 2017 and 2018 where Lewis played him…and Ferrari being Ferrari. Also he got distracted into politics. In his red bull days, he was like Max, just pure race car driver and nothing else. I was hoping he’ll bring his RB mentality to Ferrari how Schumacher did with Benetton to Ferrari.
@@angelilchev5352vettel is easily the worst of all drivers you mentioned. Have you seen Lewis, Fernando or Max make mistakes like the ones Vettel made in this video alone? Vettel was just lucky with the car and team mate.
Sebastian will always be one of the greatest champions F1 has ever seen. His pure love for this sport and the history of it is unrivaled. I personally think that Seb was the kind of driver that needed to feel absolutely comfortable in a team, like a second family, to be able to display his full skills and potential. Red Bull was able to give him this kind of "family" feeling that he surely missed at Ferrari and Aston Martin. One thing he will always have my respect for is leaving Red Bull. He could've gone the easy way like Hamilton and just stay in the same team, as long as they give him the best car on the grid, but instead he wanted to challenge himself and also fulfill his childhood dream of driving for Ferrari. This is something we won't see anymore. The current and upcoming driver generation doesn't care about the sports history. They don't care about what it means to drive for legendary teams like Ferrari or McLaren. They only care about getting in the best car, no matter who it belongs to, to one day leave the sport as rich as possible.
Think that’s a bit of a generalisation and not really fair. Norris has and continues to show a lot of loyalty to mclaren, Leclerc may moan a lot but he clearly wants to win with Ferrari, Verstappen has talked about spending his whole career with red bull. Russell was never going to drive for anyone other than Mercedes as soon as they decided he was ready. They’re obviously young so have plenty of time for things to change but when you compare that to Hamilton jumping ship from Mclaren after they mentored him from a young age , Alonso racing from every top team at different stages, raikonnen racing for both mclaren and Ferrari, you can argue the current generation are (so far) more loyal to their marques and their history and less willing to jump ship to a faster car at the drop of a hat than their peers from the previous generation?
@@freshdotholla 2018 that was, but the crumble comes in monza, completely and shamefull disaster in front of tifossi unforgetable and disaster mistake, destroy the championship for vettel and the team, all team completely blow his chances making mistake after mistake, drive and strategy errors by crumbling under pressure
I think the more fundamental reason could be that he just fell out of love with what F1 was becoming. Vettel just wasn’t anywhere near his former self after the 2014 rules changes, which imo didn’t appeal to his purist self in order to push himself like pre 2014.
Dont forget his driving style. His prime RB years with the blown diffuser and the first year at Ferrari. It looked like he drove on train rails so perfect.
@@dominik13579 ricciardo beat max in 2016 and 2017, so max is not all time great either. lewis lost against both button and russell, so we gotta count him out too. even alonso was behind trulli by 1 point in wdc at the end of 2004
I said it so often but i say it again: Vettel probably faced the most talanted driver ever and won against everyone at some point. He has never realy a easy season, every single win was a fight. The "downfall" at Ferrari was at a time when he already accomplished everything he wanted, when he was grown up and realized there is more in the world. If Alonso would have ever found the right women for a family he wouldn't be around so long ether (and he would absolutely deserve it)
9:00 these same people say that Verstappen and Hamilton got lucky with their title wins. Why can't people just understand that athletes' skill level can peak and wane. They are humans, not players in an RPG where once you gain skill points, you don't lose it. Smh at the rise of such ignorant comments on the internet.
He showed everybody that he is one of the best drivers by coming back in terms of performance in Aston Martin. When you compare the car and the performance Seb really did very well.
I'd argue in 2016,17 and the first half of 18 he was still Vettel and when his retirement was announced he seemed to find another level in 2nd half of 2022
@angelomelpignano3948 he actually was never the same since 2019, been watching vettel for years. I rmb the days when i wanted to punch the guy at rb cus of his dominance, at ferrari he started strong, then after the slip ups of 2017 2018. Nah bruh not it, his 2022 abu dubai qualifying performance was probs his best in 3 seasons, 3 bloody seasons. Yes seeing him drive that AM like a beast to make sure he leaves on a high was amazing, but if ur a 4 time world champion, idn to wait 3 years to see a worldie performance like that
As a kid back in 2010-2012 i love watching sebastian and lewis drive man nothing will be like the days i'd get up early on the saturday and watch the f1
Seb was brutally fast in the right car but like most drivers he needed the car to fit his strengths in order to maximise his speed. This is true of even the best drivers in history and it was just unfortunate for Seb that he couldn't quite find that magic blend of driver and machine at Ferrari for in the V6 era in general. Not to mention how fast Mercedes and Lewis were at the time. - The only driver in my time watching F1 who seems to be able to drive anything at close to their maximum is Fernando but he is a freak of nature. I can't speak to the likes of Senna or Jim Clark because I only started watching in 1996 (by all accounts they were freaks of nature too). Seb was fast and mighty and should be considered a great of the sport regardless of his drop off after 2013.
Just like Alonso said about his crazy overtake of Schummi: "I remembered he is the father of two kids,..." So he basically knew that Schummi would back down when things got too hary.
Ferrari is just hostile enviroment, riding a legendary status they dont live up to anymore. The comparison between Merc protecting Lewis at all cost and Ferrari saying: Seb fucked up in 2018 is just laughable. I respect Lewis but I dont thing even he could have won title with Ferrari in the last decade.
I wonder how awful to drive that 2018 car was, combined to him being under underground he pressure of the higher ups and not being protected at all for sure made him lose the trust In himself, I believe not even Max couldnt cope with the Ferrari shenanigans non matter how impenetrable against pressure he is
@@elatetunic-wd9ig only guy who didn't buckle under pressure at ferrari after Michael was Alonso. Vettel as great as he was had Fernando's shoes to fill... and I don't think he was up to that task. Vettel never had an insane season like Alonso's 2012, 2010 or first half of 2013 at Ferrari, which led many people in the hispanic world to theorise what could Alonso have done with the 2017 or 2018 cars... and the 2022, for that matter.
@@LeicaFleuryI think Alonso still woulda been fucked in 2017. The only results Seb lost in 2017 were Singapore (Fernando wasn’t perfect, Fuji 07), Baku (Fernando def picks up points for the win here), and then silverstone Suzuka and Malaysia with tyre blowups and car problems. That’s it. Other than that he was perfect. So 2 mistakes and a perfect run besides 3 huge mechanical failures. Lewis had none of the mechanical stuff, I think nando loses still in 17 for sure, but tbh, without Singapore, Malaysia (Seb wins these 2) and Japan (finishes 2nd here), and then a real Mexican gp that wasn’t just CHAOS because of the champ situation going in, I’d say Seb has a damn good shot of taking it to a title decider. Not for sure winning, but getting it to the last race (that Mercedes was dominant at anyways so he prolly woulda lost 😂😂) Point being 2017 was a no go, he drove very well but did 2 dumb things and had bad reliability so no chance even without mistakes. 2018 on the other hand. Ah man. First 2 races great. 3rd race on China, Ferrari ruined the strategy. No chance for Alonso, hopefully max doesn’t spin him Baku nando wins, Spain ferrari fucked strategy. Monaco Seb did great 2nd Canada Seb did great win Austria Seb did great for p3 but had a penalty from dumb shit in Fp2 or fp3, so Alonso probably finishes p2 ahead of Kimi with no penalty. France Alonso 2nd, vettel had no podium Silverstone vettel phenomenal win Hockenheim nando win Hungary Seb did great for p2, nando does same Belgium great seb win, great nando win Italy nando finds a way fuck it, p1 Singapore p3 Seb did great for shit car pace Japan p2 Seb ducked it Usa p1 Seb ducked it Mexico p2 Seb did great, nando p2 Brazil nando p3-4 ferrari had no pace Abu Dhabi nando p2, just like seb Overall I count 84 points nando would have gained overall. Seb lost by 88, but nando takes at least 14 points off Lewis already at hockenheim and monza (theoretically), so yeah he definitely could have won it. Seb should’ve… Man I wish
@@thekyuwa Mistakes that Ferrari caused. Had they not turned the front running car into a tractor after the summer break, I dare say he would have been champ, or very very close. Ferrari admitted they went backwards with their mid season upgrade and ruined the car.
"On the final race day, all the drivers gathered to honour him on a emotional display of respect and camaraderie." Meanwhile... *Verstappen kicks his ass*
An incredible deep dive into Sebastian Vettel's journey. It's fascinating to see how quickly fortunes can change in F1, from his meteoric rise to the challenges he faced later on. You captured the highs and lows perfectly
I hate it when people say that. He finished 2nd in Hungary after that and won in Spa with the famous "But here comes Sebastian Vettel". Monza really broke him.
The same happened at Red Bull. Another driver who was able to beat him constantly joined the team.......... Vettel was unable to deal with it. Both times he started to underpeform even more and ran away instead of taking the challenge and prove that he is a champion. That's about it.
He didn't run away from Ferrari. Ferrari fired him early in the season through a fucking phone call, pure disrespect. Otherwise he would stay at Ferrari.
the thing is. he didnt get beat by the other driver. he got beat by technical issues over the year. when the car was fine he beat his mate or was simply just as fast.
In 9:41 you should explain the viewers the full reason why did Sebastian did it, cuz Hamilton braked suddenly, all along being well aware that Sebastian was Closely Following him, Later On after the Race, Seb Apologized for his behavior. I am not biased. I respect both Seb & Ham.it’s just everyone should be aware of the reality
i wouldnt bring Seb back for a simple reason. He wont be in the same form as someone who was on the sport uninterrupted. Dont forget what happened to Schumacher. Even him being a 7 times World Champion, had a rather unimpressive campaign in his years in Mercedes. lets better keep the memory alive, rather than killing it with a disapointing reality.
Tbf Michael stayed away from racing for too long, he was older than Seb when he came back and he also had a neck injury. There are many legends that come back from retirement. The most recent example is Alonso but it's not just him. Lauda and Prost also returned from retirement and they even won a championship. However, I wouldn't bring Seb back either. I don't think he has the dedication and mental power for a comeback like this. At least, the Seb we saw in his last like 5-6 years didn't
@@ahmettarkkaya2915 well thats the point i made. consider he is more focused on his social justice goals than racing. and compared to alonso, alonso stayed racing. lets remember he won le mans. sebs case, he just droped racing entirely, and exibitions arent enough to keep him sharp.
I think another top driver would have won the 2018 championship with that Ferrari or at least be 30 points behind Lewis. No offense to Vettel, who is one of the best drivers in the history but in those years he no longer had the level he showed us in Red Bull. Sorry if I make some mistakes when writing, it's not my first language and I'm still learning.
as a vettel fan I agree his mistakes cost the title (if you estimate conservatively, he would have been neck-to-neck with lewis in points). It was a very odd year, because since the italian grand prix, where he did not get the tow of his team mate in quali, made an error and spun in the race. He never was the same, even though he had peaks in 2019, 2021, 2022. He is mentally tough, as he came back to win titles (even did great in races - tail end of the season (high pressure times) in 2010 and 2012. Idk what politics was played at ferrari that weekend (where kimi was anounced to leave, marchionne (CEO) passed away). But this + the way they fired him (lying to the media). Just put a nail in the coffin on vettel. So close yet so far to be talked in the goat category. Ferrari will never win again unless they have strong leadership, otherwise more legends will join the list of not winning titles with ferrari. (Alonso, Vettel, Mansell, Prost). Who have 11 titles. Being a ferrari fan is like being a man utd fan lmao
Maybe a bit more competitive, but no one, not even Lewis, would win in that Ferrari The problem with Ferrari is their management, too much politics inside
@@hectornecromancer5308Lewis wins in that 2018 Ferrari 100% . Hamilton 2021 performance is proof of that. Having about the same difference in the pole positions yet fighting it till final match something Vettel didn't do.
What really happened to Vettel? I guess we’ll never know. The video certainly doesn’t tell us, but it’s a nice trip down memory lane nonetheless. I think that, outside of such a dominant car, he just couldn’t quite cut it at the top level. Kudos to him as an ambassador for the sport, and he was entertaining to watch. I hope he enjoys his well-earned retirement.
That pair of title shots he had at Ferrari were unquestionably a massive turning point in Vettel's career, especially the latter chance. Had he won both or even one of those, it would have made him a champion at multiple teams and restored Ferrari to championship glory. As it was he lost one he could have won, another he should have and largely through his own mistakes. Hamilton cemented himself as the king of their generation, pushing onwards towards Fangio and Schumacher, while Vettel seemed to lose that edge and self-confidence he'd previously had.
I grew to love Sebastian, an absolute relentless legend and a humble guy who paid homage to the champions that came before him, he picked the number 5 at ferrari becuase red 5 was Nigel Mansel's number the last driver Enzo himself picked to drive for the scuderia, he won 15 races at ferrari which is enough to get a title but alot of dubious decisions, went against him in my opinion, I'm becoming very cynical about F1's authenticity as a sport, it's turning more into entertainment and Ssbastian wasn't the same after leaving the scuderia if only, we could find out what happens behind closed doors!
My observation tells me that his crash at his home race during Ferrari year that he was championship contender against Lewis, his crashed cause him yips condition subconsciously he was buried it took a long time recover from that , the damage was done. Don’t believe me check his race after his crash in 2018 .
The clip of break failure at Monza wasnt his fault nor fair, and it was rather rude to include in the moontage of "seb mistakes" and " fall from grace " part of the video
It’s such a shame, but it seems that towards the latter half of Seb‘s career the pressure did seem to get to him. I really wish he would’ve won with Ferrari.
The Italians fell in love too fast with Leclerc. After five years, time proved them wrong. He has won nothing nor will win anything. They should have stick to Vettel.
also his love for ferrari become the reason for his downfall, had he moved to mercedes back in 2017, today he wouldn't be criticised n bashed by f1 fans all over the world like this n be considered unworthy of the 4 championships he has. his love for ferrari n his decision to stay at ferrari n do everything in his power to bring the championship back to maranello costed him his career and his legacy.
Video not well made, summarized too much cutting off many edges and not telling the whole story. Furthermore, not giving many details or actually explaining many of his failures, because most at least at ferrari were made because of the team. A youtuber with good potential, but also a youtuber that gives me the idea that he doesn’t actually watch nor know too much about f1, rather read everything on wikipedia
2018 Marchionne died. Balance of power shifted immediately. Famous German 2018 crash happened soon after the death. Everything went downhill after that. He’s not good with political pressure.
Great drivers go to die in Ferrari. It's a place of gross politics, bad reliability, and terrible bosses. What is upsetting is that now happening to Leclrec and Sainz. Im still not over Seb leaving F1. I always dreamt of seeing him win a championship again racing against lewis and im a massive lewis fan. #gomerc
I'm under the impression that many "great drivers" simply had the best car at the right time. It's like corporate America. You have a guy who simply is an unstoppable force and then is met with equal (if not better) competition. No professional organization is immune from otherwise dominant people who are ultimately defeated by younger up and coming people (when given a winning car). Sebastian made his own career moves and landed in cars that were less than the rest and he simply didn't perform when compared to his teammates. It really goes to show how much of a team sport F1 is. During his day compared to his teammates he took a car (4 times) and won world championships. How good would he have been if he started with a lesser team and worked his way up? Would he always show that excellence and beat every teammate to clench a world title? I think not. He simply had the right path with the right car and his teammates simply could not fight him. Simple as that. It's a bit of luck and talent when it comes to f1 because it really is a team sport. There are drivers who if given the ideal pipeline could beat all teammates and then land a championship car and then win. That does not happen as often because the car is just an important to the driver who takes it to the podium. Meaning, if you have an above average driver (when compared to the grid) who is piloting a championship car will always win. That is why Vettel never bounced back. He went through several teams and teammates and never was anything special. F1 is for the most part a combination of drivers luck and baseline skill compared to the car they are given. Think of how many drivers during Vettels time (when he was winning) who if given the same machinery would dominate him. Equally, I would be interested in previous world champions being given less than optimal cars on the grid during the years they won and seeing where they place. This obviously will never happen because hindsight is not 20/20 in f1 unless your teammate is severely lacking and awful. If you are a good enough driver to luckily beat half the grid then odds are any teammate you are given will have less than a shot at beating you. That is, if you are a top 10 driver and you land a championship car depending on the competition you will almost always win. It is a game of probability because everyone is so good.
Sebastian, especially today couldn't hold a candle to Max... Plenty of F1 drivers have sweetheart stories, going all the way back to when they had to be put into carts / karts by their parents at age whatever... His golden years in this case were definitely fueled by RedBull getting ahead of the curve.. I'm not saying that Max isn't enjoying that as well with the latest RB... The difference is, and hate if you want, Max could jump into the weeker of the toro roso cars and quite possibly win by sheer will alone.. No TRUE racer likes 2nd place, much less being back in the back... I was and am a fan of Sebastian.. I don't think it was the cars that necessarily failed him... I think he fell in love with those championships, AND when Hamilton showed up, it through him off the game he got used to.. I have always been a mega fan of Senna.. I wish he hadn't died for a variety of reasons, and that we really missed out on Shui and him really getting it on.. He lost his edge, I do believe... Him coming back with a new Audi team would hurt the team, for sure.. There's no way unless they come up with some UFO delivered package will he beat either Max, Lewis, and a ton of other current talent.. That idea just has bad written all over it... Maybe if Audi puts out something impressive, they might just luck in to Max or Hamilton, etc. as their #1.. IF Sebastian wants to be in the paddock again, he should try out for pit bitch and work hard...
That Italian GP 08 couldn't of had a Main Team Red Bull Win, as Seb took out Mark very early on in the race, didn't he?? I've become a Seb fan over the year's, but not the early year's.
Watching Seb lose for Ferrari was a real gutter. He seemed to be his own worst enemy on track and it was so sad to watch his decline over his Ferrari years but as Andybp872 says working with Ferrari aint easy, they've performed like a bunch of amateurs in recent years, its embarrassing.
The main problem for Vettle was odviously that Hamilton guy was just a bit too fast and too strong for him which was unfortunate because the Ferraris he drove in 2017-18 should of won as it was better than his main threat of Hamiltons Mercedes
Seb can drive any car made ferrari look better than they were for very long and that took a mental toll on him that led to burnout. Poor charles and saintz they will find out soon enough.
Seb wasn't once a 4-time WDC, he still is a 4-time WDC!
Considering what happen to him and how people dissed him between mid-2017 to the early 2021. The "once" remark kinda makes sense in context
The narrator idiiiot won't do that if he is making a video on Lewis , portraying him as 'once' a 7 time world champion.
Typical spoiled Brit.
Nah. He's a climate propagandist now...
@@hectornecromancer5308 No one dissed him other than spoiled British brats. Real F1 fans always respected him
@@ananthu8534Chill
Seeung how Charles and Carlos still struggle with Ferrari keeps things in perspective. Not that easy to bring the championship to Ferrari.
the last time ferrari won a champion ship was when the man didnt listen to ferrari
Carlos and Charles don't have a car as good as sf71H
@@MajorTom4 Vettel didn't had a car as good as W08 and W09
@@kanolightracer5 Not just car... But team.
The last time Ferrari dominated was because Schumacher brought a team of winners with him.
Even more impressive than Sebastian's win in Monza in 2008 was the fact that he single-handedly trashed not only the "mothership" but also the combined points tally of the three other Red Bull drivers on the grid (DC, Webber, Bourdais) that season. A feat no other Red Bull "junior driver" before or after him could ever replicate.
He basically single-handedly ruined Bourdais' F1 career in doing so, after that one'd previously won four back-to-back Indycar titles and was running 4th in his first F1 race before his car failed with a lap to go. After that, Vettel dominated him in a midfield team to an extent that people actually thought Bourdais wasn't that good of a driver. In truth it was just that the young Seb was so phenomenal.
@@julianschernthaner4351Bourdais won champcar not indycar, the champcar field wasn’t that strong.
@@Tvl010 Indycar before the early 2010s was literally a bunch of drivers who failed to reach CART before the series separated. You don’t know what you’re talking about
@@sandalphoncpu He drove champcar not Indy what are you on about? Robert Doornbos looked good in that series, that’s the level we are talking about.
Both cars were both designed by Newey by Torro Rosso had a more powerful engine. Also hsi teammate qualified 4th suggesting that the "junior car" was very strong that race.
Such a shame what happened to Vettel at Ferrari. Should have achieved so much more.
Why? He got beaten by Kimi and Leclerc fair and square. He's nothing special.
He was a classic "need an arm around me for support" driver.
Facts. Only a champion when the car was really right up there without too many worries, while being in a RB situation where a second driver isn't allowed to do anything anyway.
He bottled the championship two years in a row. Obviously we as a team screwed up a few times but he had a chance two years in a row and fucked it.
As a huge Vettel fan, he has gotten weak mentally especially in 2017 and 2018 where Lewis played him…and Ferrari being Ferrari. Also he got distracted into politics. In his red bull days, he was like Max, just pure race car driver and nothing else. I was hoping he’ll bring his RB mentality to Ferrari how Schumacher did with Benetton to Ferrari.
Imagine we get a title battle between the fernando in the Aston Martin, Lewis in the merc and seb in an audi.
adding on... Verstappen in RB, Lando in Mclaren, Charles in Ferrari
Seb must have won at least one extra championship of F1. He deserves that.
@@elyorganiev513 Fernando deserves it more than Seb. Tbh I don't think Seb deserves another wdc. He did deserve one with Ferrari but that's it
@@lucid-eclipze571 Fair enough. You are right.
@@lucid-eclipze571Alonso definitely deserved more WDC titles than he won.
Vettel is one of the best legend that even Max or Lewis will respect.
Vettel was better than Lewis. Max better than both.
@@tiagofernandes8389 agree about Max, but no chance Vettel is better than Hamilton, gtfo. And this is coming from an Alonso fanboy.
@@angelilchev5352idc. Vettel has way more raw speed and talent than hamilton. Gtfo
@@angelilchev5352vettel is easily the worst of all drivers you mentioned. Have you seen Lewis, Fernando or Max make mistakes like the ones Vettel made in this video alone? Vettel was just lucky with the car and team mate.
The fact that Vettel is a 4 time champ is a huge feat from Red Bull, 2010 and 2012 should never been that close.
You didn't give your opinion on "what happened to Sebastian Vettel" you basically just summarized his career
Basically ferrari happened to my GOAT 😢
It seems like he lost his drive.
The fact that he lost the ability to drive consistently had something to do with factors outside of F1?
Sebastian will always be one of the greatest champions F1 has ever seen. His pure love for this sport and the history of it is unrivaled.
I personally think that Seb was the kind of driver that needed to feel absolutely comfortable in a team, like a second family, to be able to display his full skills and potential. Red Bull was able to give him this kind of "family" feeling that he surely missed at Ferrari and Aston Martin.
One thing he will always have my respect for is leaving Red Bull. He could've gone the easy way like Hamilton and just stay in the same team, as long as they give him the best car on the grid, but instead he wanted to challenge himself and also fulfill his childhood dream of driving for Ferrari. This is something we won't see anymore. The current and upcoming driver generation doesn't care about the sports history. They don't care about what it means to drive for legendary teams like Ferrari or McLaren. They only care about getting in the best car, no matter who it belongs to, to one day leave the sport as rich as possible.
Think that’s a bit of a generalisation and not really fair. Norris has and continues to show a lot of loyalty to mclaren, Leclerc may moan a lot but he clearly wants to win with Ferrari, Verstappen has talked about spending his whole career with red bull. Russell was never going to drive for anyone other than Mercedes as soon as they decided he was ready. They’re obviously young so have plenty of time for things to change but when you compare that to Hamilton jumping ship from Mclaren after they mentored him from a young age , Alonso racing from every top team at different stages, raikonnen racing for both mclaren and Ferrari, you can argue the current generation are (so far) more loyal to their marques and their history and less willing to jump ship to a faster car at the drop of a hat than their peers from the previous generation?
Did he earn more at Ferrari though ?
Oh yeah? Not talking about seb eh?
@@hugo-pg5tv completely different context, but thanks for showing me how desperate you really are.
@@charlieyaxley4590arrrr have you ever thought that maybe the younger generation are loyal because they had no where else to go to?
Seb would've won 2017 with a bit more luck on his side
Skill issue
when he crashed out in the lead of the german GP, I knew he was finished.
@@freshdotholla 2018 that was, but the crumble comes in monza, completely and shamefull disaster in front of tifossi unforgetable and disaster mistake, destroy the championship for vettel and the team, all team completely blow his chances making mistake after mistake, drive and strategy errors by crumbling under pressure
@@freshdotholla at least get the year right bud
I think the more fundamental reason could be that he just fell out of love with what F1 was becoming. Vettel just wasn’t anywhere near his former self after the 2014 rules changes, which imo didn’t appeal to his purist self in order to push himself like pre 2014.
He was wicked in 15 and 17 but I guess Germany 18 threw it away.
@@saiyerugara9038 in addition mercedes clearly out developed ferarri in the second half of the 2018 season!
Dont forget his driving style. His prime RB years with the blown diffuser and the first year at Ferrari. It looked like he drove on train rails so perfect.
Very beautiful but slower than Kimi or Leclerc 😅
Hes nothing special
@@dominik13579slower than kimi is just untrue bro haha
@@JustinInchident when Ricciardo and Leclerc beat you over the course of a year in points, you're not an all time great.
@@dominik13579 ricciardo beat max in 2016 and 2017, so max is not all time great either. lewis lost against both button and russell, so we gotta count him out too. even alonso was behind trulli by 1 point in wdc at the end of 2004
Brain dead idiot @@dominik13579
I said it so often but i say it again: Vettel probably faced the most talanted driver ever and won against everyone at some point. He has never realy a easy season, every single win was a fight. The "downfall" at Ferrari was at a time when he already accomplished everything he wanted, when he was grown up and realized there is more in the world. If Alonso would have ever found the right women for a family he wouldn't be around so long ether (and he would absolutely deserve it)
Seb should be a steward or race director. He is experienced enouhg for such a role.
Totally agree 👍 He wud replace good Charley Whiting 😎
@@ratkomilutinovic829 Announcement coming in Japan
He was a big whiner
@@searsing7382Name one driver on the grid that never whined.
@@ef1112Bottas
9:00 these same people say that Verstappen and Hamilton got lucky with their title wins. Why can't people just understand that athletes' skill level can peak and wane. They are humans, not players in an RPG where once you gain skill points, you don't lose it. Smh at the rise of such ignorant comments on the internet.
He showed everybody that he is one of the best drivers by coming back in terms of performance in Aston Martin. When you compare the car and the performance Seb really did very well.
In Hockenheim and Singapore peaked....
Great driver and should be remembered along with other legends.
He will be remebered as a side note that got beaten by average Leclerc and Kimi.
And for his social justice shenanigans
@@dominik13579 Kimi was obliterated by pre 2018 Vettel. Vettel was a different driver after 2018.
Nicely put together story! I'm right now working on a "What if" documentary about Vettel's 2018 season and especially Hockenheim.
driving for ferrari has to be stressful. leclerc and sainz seem to be going through the same atm. sucks
Yet Alonso still is driving an F1 car, and he suffered quite the same at Ferrari, did he not?
@@JorisVDCHe isnt married and has no Kids, I guess thats why he gay enough energy for the Ferrari shenanigans
Vettel drove from 2007-2015 Sebastian however… Drove from 2016 to 2022
I'd argue in 2016,17 and the first half of 18 he was still Vettel and when his retirement was announced he seemed to find another level in 2nd half of 2022
@@Nathan_MooneyGermany 2018 changed everything he was never the same after
@@Nathan_Mooney yeah, he was actually really good in his last season.
@@best___0999Just to forget that the race after he got a P2 in Hungary and then P1 in Belgium. But hey, he was never the same, right?
@angelomelpignano3948 he actually was never the same since 2019, been watching vettel for years. I rmb the days when i wanted to punch the guy at rb cus of his dominance, at ferrari he started strong, then after the slip ups of 2017 2018. Nah bruh not it, his 2022 abu dubai qualifying performance was probs his best in 3 seasons, 3 bloody seasons. Yes seeing him drive that AM like a beast to make sure he leaves on a high was amazing, but if ur a 4 time world champion, idn to wait 3 years to see a worldie performance like that
As a kid back in 2010-2012 i love watching sebastian and lewis drive man nothing will be like the days i'd get up early on the saturday and watch the f1
Seb was brutally fast in the right car but like most drivers he needed the car to fit his strengths in order to maximise his speed. This is true of even the best drivers in history and it was just unfortunate for Seb that he couldn't quite find that magic blend of driver and machine at Ferrari for in the V6 era in general. Not to mention how fast Mercedes and Lewis were at the time. - The only driver in my time watching F1 who seems to be able to drive anything at close to their maximum is Fernando but he is a freak of nature. I can't speak to the likes of Senna or Jim Clark because I only started watching in 1996 (by all accounts they were freaks of nature too). Seb was fast and mighty and should be considered a great of the sport regardless of his drop off after 2013.
His first kid was born in 2014, seeing that life you have created will take even the best mans nerve.
Just like Alonso said about his crazy overtake of Schummi: "I remembered he is the father of two kids,..." So he basically knew that Schummi would back down when things got too hary.
Correction, he is still a 4 time world champion.
Ferrari is just hostile enviroment, riding a legendary status they dont live up to anymore. The comparison between Merc protecting Lewis at all cost and Ferrari saying: Seb fucked up in 2018 is just laughable. I respect Lewis but I dont thing even he could have won title with Ferrari in the last decade.
I wonder how awful to drive that 2018 car was, combined to him being under underground he pressure of the higher ups and not being protected at all for sure made him lose the trust In himself,
I believe not even Max couldnt cope with the Ferrari shenanigans non matter how impenetrable against pressure he is
@@elatetunic-wd9ig only guy who didn't buckle under pressure at ferrari after Michael was Alonso. Vettel as great as he was had Fernando's shoes to fill... and I don't think he was up to that task. Vettel never had an insane season like Alonso's 2012, 2010 or first half of 2013 at Ferrari, which led many people in the hispanic world to theorise what could Alonso have done with the 2017 or 2018 cars... and the 2022, for that matter.
@@LeicaFleuryI think Alonso still woulda been fucked in 2017. The only results Seb lost in 2017 were Singapore (Fernando wasn’t perfect, Fuji 07), Baku (Fernando def picks up points for the win here), and then silverstone Suzuka and Malaysia with tyre blowups and car problems. That’s it. Other than that he was perfect. So 2 mistakes and a perfect run besides 3 huge mechanical failures. Lewis had none of the mechanical stuff, I think nando loses still in 17 for sure, but tbh, without Singapore, Malaysia (Seb wins these 2) and Japan (finishes 2nd here), and then a real Mexican gp that wasn’t just CHAOS because of the champ situation going in, I’d say Seb has a damn good shot of taking it to a title decider. Not for sure winning, but getting it to the last race (that Mercedes was dominant at anyways so he prolly woulda lost 😂😂)
Point being 2017 was a no go, he drove very well but did 2 dumb things and had bad reliability so no chance even without mistakes.
2018 on the other hand. Ah man.
First 2 races great.
3rd race on China, Ferrari ruined the strategy. No chance for Alonso, hopefully max doesn’t spin him
Baku nando wins,
Spain ferrari fucked strategy.
Monaco Seb did great 2nd
Canada Seb did great win
Austria Seb did great for p3 but had a penalty from dumb shit in Fp2 or fp3, so Alonso probably finishes p2 ahead of Kimi with no penalty.
France Alonso 2nd, vettel had no podium
Silverstone vettel phenomenal win
Hockenheim nando win
Hungary Seb did great for p2, nando does same
Belgium great seb win, great nando win
Italy nando finds a way fuck it, p1
Singapore p3 Seb did great for shit car pace
Japan p2 Seb ducked it
Usa p1 Seb ducked it
Mexico p2 Seb did great, nando p2
Brazil nando p3-4 ferrari had no pace
Abu Dhabi nando p2, just like seb
Overall I count 84 points nando would have gained overall.
Seb lost by 88, but nando takes at least 14 points off Lewis already at hockenheim and monza (theoretically), so yeah he definitely could have won it.
Seb should’ve…
Man I wish
I miss the times with young Vettel from 2010 to 2016. We had a fantastic timeperiod with him. Wish this could come back
So glad your Finlay getting some growth been here since 4K keep pushing
Really appreciate it mate ❤️
Vettel failed because of Ferrari, not with Ferrari... same thing happend with Alonso, same thing happens now with Leclerc.
Vettel 2018 was terrible even with a better car. Imagine Kimi finishing ahead of bottas how good that Ferrari was
Stop defending his honour just cause you idolise him: he made countless mistakes all by himself, get over it.
@@thekyuwa Mistakes that Ferrari caused. Had they not turned the front running car into a tractor after the summer break, I dare say he would have been champ, or very very close. Ferrari admitted they went backwards with their mid season upgrade and ruined the car.
@@fuzzy-daddy83Facts they confirmed it with removing the Upgrades at the US Gp
Or if you ask most people at the time, it's "Vettel failed Ferrari", as simple as that
"On the final race day, all the drivers gathered to honour him on a emotional display of respect and camaraderie."
Meanwhile...
*Verstappen kicks his ass*
Seb STILL is a 4 time world champion
great video no long pauses amazing
I miss you seb. Come back ❤️
An incredible deep dive into Sebastian Vettel's journey. It's fascinating to see how quickly fortunes can change in F1, from his meteoric rise to the challenges he faced later on. You captured the highs and lows perfectly
the German GP broke this man!
I hate it when people say that. He finished 2nd in Hungary after that and won in Spa with the famous "But here comes Sebastian Vettel". Monza really broke him.
@@kamilex5 could be, but German GP cracked him, he was never the same anymore.
@@LionelHutz Monza was the downfall and the dream was crushed for Vettel, he never recovery of that. But yeah the nightmare begins in germany 2018
Seb and mich with audi would be golden
Notice how Christian Horner actually started to look like a proper man once Seb left Red Bull
Wdym
The same happened at Red Bull.
Another driver who was able to beat him constantly joined the team..........
Vettel was unable to deal with it.
Both times he started to underpeform even more and ran away instead of taking the challenge and prove that he is a champion.
That's about it.
He didn't run away from Ferrari. Ferrari fired him early in the season through a fucking phone call, pure disrespect. Otherwise he would stay at Ferrari.
Vettel got a Ferrari drive, he didn’t run away from Ricciardo. Heck Ricciardo got beaten by Kvyat the next season.
the thing is. he didnt get beat by the other driver. he got beat by technical issues over the year. when the car was fine he beat his mate or was simply just as fast.
He won 4 Drivers Championship's in a Row he had the best Car but was still a great achievement. He won loads of races in 2013 he won 9 Races in a row.
Thank you for doing this nice and informative video
There are better videos on vettel this dude is biased as hell.
Appreciate it mate 👍🏻❤️
it really annoys me how everyone has forgotten his incredible accomplishments and now he’s known as the ‘bee keeper‘ he deserves more than that.
7:26 Ascari didnt win 9 in a row, he won 7. A record shared with M Schumacher & now Nico Rosberg.
Ascari won 9 in a row but 2 of them didnt count towards the championship so thats why they dont count in F1 records..
Not quite.. he skipped one or two races in between (Indy500) which kinda had a special status, so one can argue that there was a break in the streak
In 9:41 you should explain the viewers the full reason why did Sebastian did it, cuz Hamilton braked suddenly, all along being well aware that Sebastian was Closely Following him, Later On after the Race, Seb Apologized for his behavior.
I am not biased. I respect both Seb & Ham.it’s just everyone should be aware of the reality
i wouldnt bring Seb back for a simple reason. He wont be in the same form as someone who was on the sport uninterrupted. Dont forget what happened to Schumacher. Even him being a 7 times World Champion, had a rather unimpressive campaign in his years in Mercedes. lets better keep the memory alive, rather than killing it with a disapointing reality.
Tbf Michael stayed away from racing for too long, he was older than Seb when he came back and he also had a neck injury. There are many legends that come back from retirement. The most recent example is Alonso but it's not just him. Lauda and Prost also returned from retirement and they even won a championship.
However, I wouldn't bring Seb back either. I don't think he has the dedication and mental power for a comeback like this. At least, the Seb we saw in his last like 5-6 years didn't
@@ahmettarkkaya2915 well thats the point i made. consider he is more focused on his social justice goals than racing. and compared to alonso, alonso stayed racing. lets remember he won le mans. sebs case, he just droped racing entirely, and exibitions arent enough to keep him sharp.
The thing was Michael was not interested in winning at this point. He was probably there to develop the car.
12:29 That Norwood 6 is brutal…
Bro is SunnyV2 for F1 love this
You might support him or not,but deep down we all love him.
This is the best example of how the title has nothing to do with the actual video.
prime red bull and vettel was one of the best F1 I've ever seen (the other one is nico 2016 victory)
A legend after Michael Schumacher because their era was more competitive and technically challenging
Stroll stays catching strays 😂
We all know who stopped Vettel. It was FIA changing the rules to stop the absolute dominance of Vettel and Red Bull and to open the door for Hamilton.
Im hoping that hes gonna come back to f1 by 2026
May i know what engine used by redbull during vettel reigning?
I think another top driver would have won the 2018 championship with that Ferrari or at least be 30 points behind Lewis. No offense to Vettel, who is one of the best drivers in the history but in those years he no longer had the level he showed us in Red Bull. Sorry if I make some mistakes when writing, it's not my first language and I'm still learning.
Ok a nadie le importa lo del idioma. Es relajado bro bendiciones y saludarme a tu mamá que la vi ayer en la piscina
Every other driver than these two mediocre drivers (kimi post 2008). Alonso Hamilton Leclerc Verstappen Riccardo Ocon all of them would be champions
as a vettel fan I agree his mistakes cost the title (if you estimate conservatively, he would have been neck-to-neck with lewis in points).
It was a very odd year, because since the italian grand prix, where he did not get the tow of his team mate in quali, made an error and spun in the race. He never was the same, even though he had peaks in 2019, 2021, 2022. He is mentally tough, as he came back to win titles (even did great in races - tail end of the season (high pressure times) in 2010 and 2012.
Idk what politics was played at ferrari that weekend (where kimi was anounced to leave, marchionne (CEO) passed away). But this + the way they fired him (lying to the media). Just put a nail in the coffin on vettel. So close yet so far to be talked in the goat category.
Ferrari will never win again unless they have strong leadership, otherwise more legends will join the list of not winning titles with ferrari. (Alonso, Vettel, Mansell, Prost). Who have 11 titles.
Being a ferrari fan is like being a man utd fan lmao
Maybe a bit more competitive, but no one, not even Lewis, would win in that Ferrari
The problem with Ferrari is their management, too much politics inside
@@hectornecromancer5308Lewis wins in that 2018 Ferrari 100% .
Hamilton 2021 performance is proof of that. Having about the same difference in the pole positions yet fighting it till final match something Vettel didn't do.
Never the same since Germany 2018....
Abudabi set fire in thought he was talking about Romain Grosjean lolll
Hi, do you remember me?
The answer of the question is in the title: Ferrari.
6:37 bro forgot Alain Prost 😢
The REAL Goat
Because Prost won 4 titles, while Seb (at that time) had only won 3. DailyFuelUp was comparing Seb with other drivers who won =< 3 titles
10:57 2019 was not charles rookie season lol
What really happened to Vettel? I guess we’ll never know. The video certainly doesn’t tell us, but it’s a nice trip down memory lane nonetheless. I think that, outside of such a dominant car, he just couldn’t quite cut it at the top level. Kudos to him as an ambassador for the sport, and he was entertaining to watch. I hope he enjoys his well-earned retirement.
All I can say vettel is the man
That pair of title shots he had at Ferrari were unquestionably a massive turning point in Vettel's career, especially the latter chance. Had he won both or even one of those, it would have made him a champion at multiple teams and restored Ferrari to championship glory. As it was he lost one he could have won, another he should have and largely through his own mistakes. Hamilton cemented himself as the king of their generation, pushing onwards towards Fangio and Schumacher, while Vettel seemed to lose that edge and self-confidence he'd previously had.
Danke seb, best driver In my opinion
Is this a netflix production? Feels like DTS regarding the tons of stuff regarding ferrari this video didnt pick up
I grew to love Sebastian, an absolute relentless legend and a humble guy who paid homage to the champions that came before him, he picked the number 5 at ferrari becuase red 5 was Nigel Mansel's number the last driver Enzo himself picked to drive for the scuderia, he won 15 races at ferrari which is enough to get a title but alot of dubious decisions, went against him in my opinion, I'm becoming very cynical about F1's authenticity as a sport, it's turning more into entertainment and Ssbastian wasn't the same after leaving the scuderia if only, we could find out what happens behind closed doors!
LEC wasn’t a rookie teammate. He was a new teammate, but not a rookie
Seb is a legend ❤
This why vetted my 1 best racer on my list
My observation tells me that his crash at his home race during Ferrari year that he was championship contender against Lewis, his crashed cause him yips condition subconsciously he was buried it took a long time recover from that , the damage was done. Don’t believe me check his race after his crash in 2018 .
The clip of break failure at Monza wasnt his fault nor fair, and it was rather rude to include in the moontage of "seb mistakes" and " fall from grace " part of the video
It’s such a shame, but it seems that towards the latter half of Seb‘s career the pressure did seem to get to him. I really wish he would’ve won with Ferrari.
Do a video about jean alesi or lance stroll or Pierre gasly
The Italians fell in love too fast with Leclerc. After five years, time proved them wrong. He has won nothing nor will win anything. They should have stick to Vettel.
Lol haha he beat him same machinery by 25 points and as a second driver. With one more dnf
@@ste34r5both of you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Watching only DTS and wiki doesn’t mean shit
@@ste34r5Carlos Sainz is about to do the same
@@ste34r5Pole to win ratio is so bad. Even Sainz can win from pole in a Ferrari. Leclerc can’t handle pressure from the back. He’s quite overrated.
@@Loki-sk7biVettel couldn't get on pole.
also his love for ferrari become the reason for his downfall, had he moved to mercedes back in 2017, today he wouldn't be criticised n bashed by f1 fans all over the world like this n be considered unworthy of the 4 championships he has. his love for ferrari n his decision to stay at ferrari n do everything in his power to bring the championship back to maranello costed him his career and his legacy.
Video not well made, summarized too much cutting off many edges and not telling the whole story. Furthermore, not giving many details or actually explaining many of his failures, because most at least at ferrari were made because of the team. A youtuber with good potential, but also a youtuber that gives me the idea that he doesn’t actually watch nor know too much about f1, rather read everything on wikipedia
Thank you. My exact thoughts
As much as I like Seb, the best thing Audi could do is try to sign Verstappen. Saving him from a slowly crumbling Red Bull Racing.
2018 Marchionne died. Balance of power shifted immediately. Famous German 2018 crash happened soon after the death. Everything went downhill after that. He’s not good with political pressure.
He went to ferrari . That happend and it was over.
This makes me so sad... all I dreamed off was Vettel to win championships with Ferrari :(
I think, it makes more sense that he returns to F1 with Mercedes, if he returns to aim for the WDC.
2014 January. He had his first kid.
That’s what happened.
Would Seb have won another championship if he had stayed at RedBull? 🤔
no
Possibly, might have taken a bit of time but could have happened
Yes.
No
He should have never left red bull he was not the same when he left
Great drivers go to die in Ferrari. It's a place of gross politics, bad reliability, and terrible bosses. What is upsetting is that now happening to Leclrec and Sainz. Im still not over Seb leaving F1. I always dreamt of seeing him win a championship again racing against lewis and im a massive lewis fan. #gomerc
I like your videos but please pronounce the names normally.
2026 - 4 way battle between Seb, Fernando, Lewis and Max ❤🤞🦍
I'm under the impression that many "great drivers" simply had the best car at the right time. It's like corporate America. You have a guy who simply is an unstoppable force and then is met with equal (if not better) competition. No professional organization is immune from otherwise dominant people who are ultimately defeated by younger up and coming people (when given a winning car). Sebastian made his own career moves and landed in cars that were less than the rest and he simply didn't perform when compared to his teammates. It really goes to show how much of a team sport F1 is. During his day compared to his teammates he took a car (4 times) and won world championships. How good would he have been if he started with a lesser team and worked his way up? Would he always show that excellence and beat every teammate to clench a world title? I think not. He simply had the right path with the right car and his teammates simply could not fight him. Simple as that. It's a bit of luck and talent when it comes to f1 because it really is a team sport. There are drivers who if given the ideal pipeline could beat all teammates and then land a championship car and then win. That does not happen as often because the car is just an important to the driver who takes it to the podium. Meaning, if you have an above average driver (when compared to the grid) who is piloting a championship car will always win. That is why Vettel never bounced back. He went through several teams and teammates and never was anything special. F1 is for the most part a combination of drivers luck and baseline skill compared to the car they are given. Think of how many drivers during Vettels time (when he was winning) who if given the same machinery would dominate him.
Equally, I would be interested in previous world champions being given less than optimal cars on the grid during the years they won and seeing where they place. This obviously will never happen because hindsight is not 20/20 in f1 unless your teammate is severely lacking and awful. If you are a good enough driver to luckily beat half the grid then odds are any teammate you are given will have less than a shot at beating you. That is, if you are a top 10 driver and you land a championship car depending on the competition you will almost always win. It is a game of probability because everyone is so good.
Sebastian should get involved in safety with FIA and probably join Alfa Romeo in their set up if he is serious
Inspector Seb
He hated the new hybrid engine regs he didn't see it as f1 anymore
Sebastian, especially today couldn't hold a candle to Max... Plenty of F1 drivers have sweetheart stories, going all the way back to when they had to be put into carts / karts by their parents at age whatever... His golden years in this case were definitely fueled by RedBull getting ahead of the curve.. I'm not saying that Max isn't enjoying that as well with the latest RB... The difference is, and hate if you want, Max could jump into the weeker of the toro roso cars and quite possibly win by sheer will alone.. No TRUE racer likes 2nd place, much less being back in the back... I was and am a fan of Sebastian.. I don't think it was the cars that necessarily failed him... I think he fell in love with those championships, AND when Hamilton showed up, it through him off the game he got used to.. I have always been a mega fan of Senna.. I wish he hadn't died for a variety of reasons, and that we really missed out on Shui and him really getting it on.. He lost his edge, I do believe... Him coming back with a new Audi team would hurt the team, for sure.. There's no way unless they come up with some UFO delivered package will he beat either Max, Lewis, and a ton of other current talent.. That idea just has bad written all over it... Maybe if Audi puts out something impressive, they might just luck in to Max or Hamilton, etc. as their #1.. IF Sebastian wants to be in the paddock again, he should try out for pit bitch and work hard...
The guy turned woke. The rest is history. And - really - Audi should realize this sooner rather than later!
That Italian GP 08 couldn't of had a Main Team Red Bull Win, as Seb took out Mark very early on in the race, didn't he?? I've become a Seb fan over the year's, but not the early year's.
Watching Seb lose for Ferrari was a real gutter. He seemed to be his own worst enemy on track and it was so sad to watch his decline over his Ferrari years but as Andybp872 says working with Ferrari aint easy, they've performed like a bunch of amateurs in recent years, its embarrassing.
He has a similar backstory to Leclear
The main problem for Vettle was odviously that Hamilton guy was just a bit too fast and too strong for him which was unfortunate because the Ferraris he drove in 2017-18 should of won as it was better than his main threat of Hamiltons Mercedes
list of drivers who dethroned him from the 1st driver, Ricciardo & Le Clerc never meet the expectation to win title anyway.
The truth is, Spinbastian Fraudttel was never a good driver, just got extremely lucky with RB
Seb can drive any car made ferrari look better than they were for very long and that took a mental toll on him that led to burnout. Poor charles and saintz they will find out soon enough.
He didn't have Red Bull cheating with "bendy wings" to back him up!
Need Seb back😢