i honestly felt so bad for SS Warriorz. They only got to do one elimination dance battle. If they had 8 crews, SS Warriorz couldve done another elimination battle (if they placed low in an artist mission which they didnt include in SWF Vietnam). Also cause I remember Ballineez saying that she wanted to dance more after this megacrew mission which now they couldnt do. They were such a chill crew too. The odds just weren't really in their favour in this challenge.
TOTALLY AGREE!! and it’s Street Dance for crying out loud, all the crews deserve to have more chances to showcase what they’re specialized in. but i’m still proud because outside of this show they’re still insanely talented dancers as they have already won so many different competitions. i have so much love and respect for them 😭 and tysm for pointing this out!
I love Ss Warriorz so much because they brought a sense of humanity to the show. They were always humble and respectful, Quan is very sweet and caring, I just love them! (Obviously, this is a tv show and we are only shown certain things. I'm sure the other dancers were just as nice without the editing 😂)
Okay, so some background context as to why Oops rank drops from 1 to 4. C2 Low posted a story about his shock towards the final result shown in the episode; basically, the time that the audience in theatres got to see all 5 Mega Crews was also the time when the mission ranks (I don't remember what it's called) aired. Now remember, at that time, oops was getting a lot of hate and backlash for their skills, especially Do Linh, the leader. So that's why the audience score was not close to the judge's score. P.s: Again, not blaming the audience, I just blame Madison for the way they established this kind of situation.
I still gonna side eye the audience. I'm sorry but if they ask which crew PERFORMANCE is my favorite, I cant disregard the performance and just solely voted for my favorite crew. I LOVE FED let be clear, i wanted them to win. but there is no way to disregard the amazing performance of OOPS. It is like the megacrew of SWF2, Jam Republic did AMAZING like FED, but 1M did slightly better and deserve that win for the mega crew challenge. Sorry for ranting, but I hate audience voting bc of biases.
"Now remember, at that time, oops was getting a lot of hate and backlash for their skills, especially Do Linh, the leader. So that's why the audience score was not close to the judge's score." -> I'm sorry but it's your assumption (we never know the truth unless we make a legit survey to ask all offline voters why they voted like that), so can you give it as a personal opinion rather than a general fact? I see many offline voters leave comments on FB explaining critically why they voted for other groups, and it's not because they hate oops at all. People have different tastes, you know. For example, my brother's rank as a normal viewer (he knows none of the dancers and ofc have no bias towards any) was FED> Sofire > HNXG > SSW > Oops.
@@anhlam5681 first of all, let have a nice discussion instead of insinuating things. Idk what Facebook you were looking at but TH-cam proved why FED and OOPS are the fan favorites by the overwhelmingly amount of views. Yes, theirs were released early but the margin was big. OOPS currently sat at over 210K views, even with half of that, they still have more views and like than that if HXG and So Fire (at 60K). Even if you triple the amount of views that they have, it is still less than that of OOPS. Also, to add on, SSWarriors got released a week early too but theirs were at 96K views. As your brother ranking, we don’t know if it is true or not as he can be influenced by your bias. Just like your whole comment. Everything is a speculation, the original comment was correlating to why OOPS public score was lowered despite the judges and many others unanimously agree that OOPS was better than that of the other groups, even Jess said that OOPS and FED should be close in their scorings for example. You can respectfully disagree with the speculation to why, but you don’t have to be so defensive toward your views. Also, whether you like it or not, bias is common in audience voting. It have been a thing of why people get mad at MNet as audiences tends to vote for the more popular groups (why do you think Jam Republic picked to fight against Lady Bounce and not 1Million, and no, it is a speculation as they said in the show that it is bc ladybounce was not popular). Yes, everyone can vote how they want to, but it is also true that biases can play in the role of voting.
watching you cry because of ss makes me emotional again 🥺although the show is lacking a lot of things, i really want to say thank you so much for still supporting our dancers 🙏
@@jess_holyfield I tried to warn ya XD. I feel like the judging definitely have been influenced by the directors of the show, especially Hari Won (love her, but her judging lead to many questions to their integrity as a judge).
My heart just dropped when I heard that ss warriorz to be ranked fifth 💔💔💔 They are my favourite! Every girl in the team has a very cool personality! And I just enjoyed watching them dancing the most in the show, they seem to really wholeheartedly love dancing! I was here for it every single moment!
I don't know if anyone explained to you before but the two Vietnamese judge also receive backlash from our country as well. To give you context, Hari is Vietnamese - Korean, now she lived in Vietnam and is a singer, she has no experience on dance whatsoever, most of us think that the only reason she being the judge is that she can translate for the Korean judge and that's it. So I wish you shouldn't stress over her opinions that much because they are pretty invalid. DLA (the girl with the white ribbon) is actually a dancer and is one of the pioneer B-girl in Vietnam so she does have experience in dancing. However, the problem with her is that she stopped her dancing career for another career around the 2000s and only return to the dance scene recently. Therefore, some of her takes about dancing and judging maybe outdated and don't fit the modern criteria anymore. All in all, I hope you don't value their opinions too much or simly ignore them as it really make the video feel pretty negative seeing you stressing over them. I think hearing more of your opinions about the dancer and the other judge would be better. (Sr for my broken English but I hope you can understand my point, I really like your analysis).
@@huannguyen2361 first of all, ur English is amazing! But yes, this is true! I understand why they chose Hari Won but I felt she could have been the MC or something, not a judge.
Actually, Hari used to be a Kpop trainee in Korea but then returned to Vietnam. It can also be said that she has been exposed to dancing but does not have enough ability and level to be a judge.
52:05 I think the translation is not really correct, she mean : "We bring the swaggiest hip-hop vibes to the show.". And I agree with you that SSWarriors is the most authentic
as a Viet and also a new learner in this dancing scene, thank you, Jess. you’ve been with me since my first day of dancing even though you are not technically my teacher. i’ve learnt so much from you as a dancer, and a human. i’m so grateful to get the chance to approach dancing with such great mindset of yours 🙆🏻💖
This was such an encouragement to read. Thank YOU for allowing me the privilege of being someone you view as a helper alongside your dance journey. I don't take that lightly and it means a lot the amount of trust you have for what I say and do as an educator and an analyst. I am so thankful we were able to interact in this way and I'm looking forward to many more growths on both of our dance journeys in the near future!
Thank you for speaking for me when I saw their comments about the FED :'( When I heard that comment, I felt so sorry for FED that I stopped watching this episode and just waited for the other two crews' videos to come out. I didn't want to hear such subjective comments about other crews. I was also angry when they gave their scores.
@@jess_holyfieldthe way they scored FED so low was mind blowing cuz when I watched FED’s performance it was the one that got stuck in my mind the most! Maybe it’s the song choice but randomly through the day it would just pop up in my head and I would remember their choreo. So I would say it did its job as a mega crew? I am not a dancer at all though so it’s just my outside opinion
Well, it’s hard to say. Although season 1 is not over yet, it can be said that the program is not very polished, there are still many controversial things. I hope season 2 will be more complete to be like the Korean version of SWF 2. If possible, can Mai Thien Quan be a judge in the next season?
Thank you so much for making these! The judges are really... something this time around and after watching the episode I always wonder what your opinion on things are so thanks for being so consistent and for the amazing long reviews!
I watch your reacts and analyses every week. It gives me interesting insight from a professional view and I've learnt about dancing more than ever before. Even though I don't understand all of the technical stuffs you mention, I can see that you judge the teams' performance in a very critical way, and I appreciate it a lot. When it comes to this episode, many VNese followers thought that it's not fair that Oops ranked 4th overall and that they should be in higher position because their performance was clearly better than other groups (some even used the word "outplayed"). On the other side, many thought that FED's performance was "safe" and even "bad". I understand these followers judge based on their own taste and set of values, but how could Oops's performance "outplay" others', and how could FED's performance be "bad"? It made me confused a lot. I'm just a normal viewer with no background in dancing but after I watched all the performances, I had the same feeling and opinion as you. And after I watched your reacts and analyses, I completely agree with all the comments you gave on the performances, and also the critical reactions to the judge's comment. Like what?? Of course, they have power to give scores, but their explanation on how they gave scores wasn't persuasive to me at all. Urggghhh. P/s: no hate to any group, I just don't agree with the judge and some viewers. The girl are all hard-working dancers and they definitely put their heart and soul into the performances. Love them all!
Once thank you for reacting to SWFVN and also saying out my thoughts as well. =)))) Even Vietnamese audience is furious at the judges decision. By the way for the private voting from audience, Madison only hosted one in Ho Chi Minh City and only picked randomly 300 people. I just feel sorry for Oops because their main fanbase is located in Hanoi (very far from HCM city). Just disappointed in why Madison only made this round private voting and only in Ho Chi Minh city.
SS Warriorz is the only group from the South, the rest are all from the North, but before joining the show, Oops and Hanoixgirl's recognition was better than So Fire and FED. Even if there were a vote in Hanoi, Oops's result would at most only reach 4th place in the audience vote.
Hey remember FED from North too. Most of their fan also from North. I think when you see the video on big screen like movie theater the vibe will be much different from on TV
Balienzz said "The first time my mother turned on the TV to watch me dance" was very touching. In Vietnam, there are still many people who think that dancing is just a hobby and not suitable for making a living or at best it is only a part-time job. There are very few families who support their children becoming dancers or art-related jobs.
@@nguyenngocphuonguyenqn12b97 I know it may be surprising but MANY families in america also feel this way. My parents were like that for the longest time …. Really resonated with her and I’m so happy they were able to bring the joy and art of dance to the masses!
I dont hate OOPS or anything like that but if the final line up is FED, SF and OOPS, then we can immediately call for investigation on cheating like they did with Mnet’s Produce series in Korea 🤣🤣🤣
Jess, if you have the means and times, pls come to Vietnam and dance, dancers there would heartfully welcome you and gladly dance with you, together and create art. Thank you so much for reacting and giving us many great feedbacks/knowledge in the world of professional/annual of street battle scenery in the US. As a Vietnamese I have known dancers in VN just need more chances to showcase more cause we love music and any arts that revolves around it, and of course the growth to this still considered a "niche" career. The dancing community has been lowkey but steadily bulding up an environment that is free and comfortable for anyone that wants to join, so if you can, pls come and experience it. And yeah as frustrated as how the show format is, they did bring attention to VN, so can't blame them too much. IRL HNxG and FED have real beef, but definitely they're still respectfull toward one another, not such childish portrait on a TV show.
I really enjoy to hear your opinion. Its definitely what I expect the audience of the show should know. Im glad to see you react Street dance Vietnam. Your voice represent for the streetdancer to the other. Hope you read my comment.
hey, i was in the audience at the studio and i really admit that the judges really didn’t have any criteria 🙂 1 group just finished performing then came their speech (the judges) then came the scoring, everything happened so fast and probably less than 5 minutes left which made me really think about whether there was any consideration when giving the scores.
Jess, those words were very nice, learning with you is truly a learning experience where there is not only respect and tolerance, but also love for the profession😊💯 By the way, could you make a video where the Megan Crew is better explained, where can you define what it is?🤔
@@lispena2913 means a lot that you are along for the ride with me! I have loved watching this show and I’m excited to continue watching and enjoying! I don’t know if I would be able to be as helpful with your question, but I don’t mind trying to figure it out!
AND YESSSSSS, I ALSO THOUGHT OF the INTERFERENCE of the production house, probably they knew the results of fan's voting so they needed to have some influence in judges' score =)))
@@linhhavukhanh5559 😂 I bet he meant part of his feelings were because of the feature’s quality of movement as well as her time on stage, but he didn’t mention that side and I was already frustrated at the other judges comments 😂😂 bless it alllll
@@jess_holyfield yeah I thought so too 🤣 but i wasn’t aware of the thing you said about MANNEQUEEN megacrew LOL It was so hilarious that my stomach hurts =)))
I didn’t intend to share my thought but I felt so frustrated watching the 2 mega crew episodes that i have to say it out loud (so sorry for my babbles) 1. In short, i want to scream to the face of the show that - No criteria, judging on personal feeling - Everything is edited by producers - This is a show, definitely scripted - Judging dance groups should just be about factors that relate to dance * My rank: 1. FED (overall is good i just thing they should choose another song) 2. SSW (great vibe, they made me feel that they moved interestingly and i want to be able to move like them) 3. Other group are at equal position: OOPS (video shooting is beautiful and music is catchy) HNXG (great idea but transition is too quick and no time to breathe) SF (catchy music, nothing stay in my head)
2. These are things that feel ridiculous to me: - praised SSW for showing their color and when FED do what they do best = showing their color, FED receive complaints about playing safe 😒 - Said SSW adding dancing techniques is good but then said too many techniques = predictable :))) - Praised OOPS and SF for having many interesting formations but said that FED was too busy making formations and didnt say much about HNXG’s formation - OOPS receive many compliments about beautiful and effective filming angle and background etc,. Although all groups got to be in charge on set but they didn’t make the final video and didn’t even allowed to watch it before hand. (And to be honest, we only got to see what the producer wanted to show us so they can make bad video from NG sources) - The part HW talked about FED’s concept not clearly show, she said tht only bc she understands the VNese lyrics so she persume the concept is about women deciding their own fate. I think FED used the song just bc of its popularity, as a strategy popular song = more view more like. And for the message, female dance having strong dance moves = confident, powerful, fierce women. Is that too hard to understand? And what part in OOPS’s dance moves show Vietnam or is it bc of the music, what part in SF’s dance moves show firefighters or is it bc of the uniform? - Complaint FED about playing safe but said that other group is doing good showing their color :)))) I mean you want FED to break dancing or doing ballet or what to be consider not playing safe =)))))
Would greatly appreciate if anyone could kindly provide more context on the Vitden situation. I haven't been following SWF vietnam, but I enjoy these clips, so it was a bit hard to follow what was going on with mentions of madison media group(?) etc
Basically Vitden is the leader and founder of the original HanoiXgirl (the one taking part in the show is only a part of that crew), of which Chec and Co of FED used to be members. There has been lots of tension between these two crews since Chec and Co left HanoiXgirl and founded their own crew, FED. In the first episode, HNXG was said to be too dependent on Vitden and heavily influenced by his style. So in the practice scene for the Mega Crew mission, these was one moment when Vitden appeared in the studio, constantly commented and directly gave instructions for the dancers on behalf of Env, who is supposed to take the lead. Even one staff of the show had to come and reminded the girls to work on the performance by themselves instead of Vitden, just like the other 4 crews were trying. Because of that, they got lots of criticism from the audiences for depending too much on their leader, and many people sarcastically said that Vitden is a secret member of the team in the show who helped them a lot in previous challenges. That's what's happened. Personally I don't know the truth behind the scene as it was only a 2-minute scene in the episode.
@@longsdiary Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that in detail. It definitely provides the context I was trying to understand
I can see that from your statement you did not really like HNXG they deliver.. they perform they devoured… tbh FED did not deliver at all didn’t deserve the 1st place … and trust me those waackings those afros those voguing aren’t simple techniques to Do a DIP perfectly you need to have a stable technique and to do afro flawlessly you need to work effortlessly too will support HNXG all the way… they’re the Jam Republic of Vietnam
@@IsaacLalremruata hey there! Thank you for taking the time to watch and provide feedback. Regarding my analysis, I come from a HHI background of judging where we measure all of the things you mentioned. I agree certain skills they provide have a difficulty based on the demand of authenticity within the culture, but when I say average or below average, I speak on the phrasing of the choreography where they don’t deviate from the basic fundamental within either musicality, dynamics, complexity, etc. I apologize if my feedback was deemed bias where that is not my intention but please remember that I am human and will continue to grow as such. I believe they should have scored in the upper percentile and I also would like to note that I didn’t technically rank any of the crews in any particular order due to the sheer subjectiveness of the show and how it was scored. If you haven’t already done so, I would love it if you took the time to watch my analysis of their actual mega crew set (I’m not sure if you have since this is the episode so I don’t know! ) and hear my feedback there. Looking forward to seeing them in the next episode!
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i honestly felt so bad for SS Warriorz. They only got to do one elimination dance battle. If they had 8 crews, SS Warriorz couldve done another elimination battle (if they placed low in an artist mission which they didnt include in SWF Vietnam). Also cause I remember Ballineez saying that she wanted to dance more after this megacrew mission which now they couldnt do. They were such a chill crew too. The odds just weren't really in their favour in this challenge.
TOTALLY AGREE!! and it’s Street Dance for crying out loud, all the crews deserve to have more chances to showcase what they’re specialized in. but i’m still proud because outside of this show they’re still insanely talented dancers as they have already won so many different competitions. i have so much love and respect for them 😭 and tysm for pointing this out!
I am happy to see that I am not the only that is stressed by these scoring/judging choices.
Soooo stressed 😂
i'm Vietnamese and honestly everyone does...
I love Ss Warriorz so much because they brought a sense of humanity to the show. They were always humble and respectful, Quan is very sweet and caring, I just love them!
(Obviously, this is a tv show and we are only shown certain things. I'm sure the other dancers were just as nice without the editing 😂)
Okay, so some background context as to why Oops rank drops from 1 to 4. C2 Low posted a story about his shock towards the final result shown in the episode; basically, the time that the audience in theatres got to see all 5 Mega Crews was also the time when the mission ranks (I don't remember what it's called) aired. Now remember, at that time, oops was getting a lot of hate and backlash for their skills, especially Do Linh, the leader. So that's why the audience score was not close to the judge's score.
P.s: Again, not blaming the audience, I just blame Madison for the way they established this kind of situation.
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Damn thats so cruel . Gp (general public) score them when oops, ssw, fanbase still so low and not much ppl notice them.
I still gonna side eye the audience. I'm sorry but if they ask which crew PERFORMANCE is my favorite, I cant disregard the performance and just solely voted for my favorite crew. I LOVE FED let be clear, i wanted them to win. but there is no way to disregard the amazing performance of OOPS. It is like the megacrew of SWF2, Jam Republic did AMAZING like FED, but 1M did slightly better and deserve that win for the mega crew challenge. Sorry for ranting, but I hate audience voting bc of biases.
"Now remember, at that time, oops was getting a lot of hate and backlash for their skills, especially Do Linh, the leader. So that's why the audience score was not close to the judge's score."
-> I'm sorry but it's your assumption (we never know the truth unless we make a legit survey to ask all offline voters why they voted like that), so can you give it as a personal opinion rather than a general fact?
I see many offline voters leave comments on FB explaining critically why they voted for other groups, and it's not because they hate oops at all. People have different tastes, you know. For example, my brother's rank as a normal viewer (he knows none of the dancers and ofc have no bias towards any) was FED> Sofire > HNXG > SSW > Oops.
Thanks for the additional info, I was so confused why OOPs scored so low from the audience vote... I thought they did the best :(
@@anhlam5681 first of all, let have a nice discussion instead of insinuating things. Idk what Facebook you were looking at but TH-cam proved why FED and OOPS are the fan favorites by the overwhelmingly amount of views. Yes, theirs were released early but the margin was big. OOPS currently sat at over 210K views, even with half of that, they still have more views and like than that if HXG and So Fire (at 60K). Even if you triple the amount of views that they have, it is still less than that of OOPS. Also, to add on, SSWarriors got released a week early too but theirs were at 96K views. As your brother ranking, we don’t know if it is true or not as he can be influenced by your bias. Just like your whole comment. Everything is a speculation, the original comment was correlating to why OOPS public score was lowered despite the judges and many others unanimously agree that OOPS was better than that of the other groups, even Jess said that OOPS and FED should be close in their scorings for example. You can respectfully disagree with the speculation to why, but you don’t have to be so defensive toward your views. Also, whether you like it or not, bias is common in audience voting. It have been a thing of why people get mad at MNet as audiences tends to vote for the more popular groups (why do you think Jam Republic picked to fight against Lady Bounce and not 1Million, and no, it is a speculation as they said in the show that it is bc ladybounce was not popular). Yes, everyone can vote how they want to, but it is also true that biases can play in the role of voting.
watching you cry because of ss makes me emotional again 🥺although the show is lacking a lot of things, i really want to say thank you so much for still supporting our dancers 🙏
Means a lot that I get to be a part in this way!!!
The judges have stressed me OUTT this season
@@markwatsonaraya4273 YOOOO LIKE FOR REAL
@@jess_holyfield I tried to warn ya XD. I feel like the judging definitely have been influenced by the directors of the show, especially Hari Won (love her, but her judging lead to many questions to their integrity as a judge).
My heart just dropped when I heard that ss warriorz to be ranked fifth 💔💔💔
They are my favourite! Every girl in the team has a very cool personality! And I just enjoyed watching them dancing the most in the show, they seem to really wholeheartedly love dancing! I was here for it every single moment!
Their speech 😭😭😭
DIED AND CRIED
So delighted to have gotten to know SSWARRIORZ ♥️♥️ this will not be the last we see of them I am sure!
I don't know if anyone explained to you before but the two Vietnamese judge also receive backlash from our country as well. To give you context, Hari is Vietnamese - Korean, now she lived in Vietnam and is a singer, she has no experience on dance whatsoever, most of us think that the only reason she being the judge is that she can translate for the Korean judge and that's it. So I wish you shouldn't stress over her opinions that much because they are pretty invalid.
DLA (the girl with the white ribbon) is actually a dancer and is one of the pioneer B-girl in Vietnam so she does have experience in dancing. However, the problem with her is that she stopped her dancing career for another career around the 2000s and only return to the dance scene recently. Therefore, some of her takes about dancing and judging maybe outdated and don't fit the modern criteria anymore.
All in all, I hope you don't value their opinions too much or simly ignore them as it really make the video feel pretty negative seeing you stressing over them. I think hearing more of your opinions about the dancer and the other judge would be better. (Sr for my broken English but I hope you can understand my point, I really like your analysis).
@@huannguyen2361 first of all, ur English is amazing! But yes, this is true! I understand why they chose Hari Won but I felt she could have been the MC or something, not a judge.
Actually, Hari used to be a Kpop trainee in Korea but then returned to Vietnam. It can also be said that she has been exposed to dancing but does not have enough ability and level to be a judge.
52:05 I think the translation is not really correct, she mean : "We bring the swaggiest hip-hop vibes to the show.". And I agree with you that SSWarriors is the most authentic
as a Viet and also a new learner in this dancing scene, thank you, Jess. you’ve been with me since my first day of dancing even though you are not technically my teacher. i’ve learnt so much from you as a dancer, and a human.
i’m so grateful to get the chance to approach dancing with such great mindset of yours 🙆🏻💖
This was such an encouragement to read. Thank YOU for allowing me the privilege of being someone you view as a helper alongside your dance journey. I don't take that lightly and it means a lot the amount of trust you have for what I say and do as an educator and an analyst. I am so thankful we were able to interact in this way and I'm looking forward to many more growths on both of our dance journeys in the near future!
OMG Jess, I'm crying again with you. I dont want anyone to get eliminated especially when its coming to an end 😢
CRYING OVER HERE 😭
Thank you for speaking for me when I saw their comments about the FED :'( When I heard that comment, I felt so sorry for FED that I stopped watching this episode and just waited for the other two crews' videos to come out. I didn't want to hear such subjective comments about other crews. I was also angry when they gave their scores.
btw, I love SS Warriorz' spirit and mindset so much
Jess I was waiting for you to react to this since I was so shocked at how they judged and had no one else to show lol
@@jaskiritkaur6076 IT’S HERE AND WE ARE GOING IN ON THIS EPISODE 😂👏🏻
@@jess_holyfieldthe way they scored FED so low was mind blowing cuz when I watched FED’s performance it was the one that got stuck in my mind the most! Maybe it’s the song choice but randomly through the day it would just pop up in my head and I would remember their choreo. So I would say it did its job as a mega crew? I am not a dancer at all though so it’s just my outside opinion
Yeahh. We all cried with this ep 🥲🥲
So glad I wasn't alone!
Well, it’s hard to say. Although season 1 is not over yet, it can be said that the program is not very polished, there are still many controversial things. I hope season 2 will be more complete to be like the Korean version of SWF 2. If possible, can Mai Thien Quan be a judge in the next season?
Thank you so much for making these! The judges are really... something this time around and after watching the episode I always wonder what your opinion on things are so thanks for being so consistent and for the amazing long reviews!
Means a lot to have you every week! I’ve loved watching this so much and I’m looking forward to hearing great discussions!!
I liked your take on the Vitden situation. I wish the show/judges would've talked about that more like you did!
I watch your reacts and analyses every week. It gives me interesting insight from a professional view and I've learnt about dancing more than ever before. Even though I don't understand all of the technical stuffs you mention, I can see that you judge the teams' performance in a very critical way, and I appreciate it a lot.
When it comes to this episode, many VNese followers thought that it's not fair that Oops ranked 4th overall and that they should be in higher position because their performance was clearly better than other groups (some even used the word "outplayed"). On the other side, many thought that FED's performance was "safe" and even "bad". I understand these followers judge based on their own taste and set of values, but how could Oops's performance "outplay" others', and how could FED's performance be "bad"? It made me confused a lot.
I'm just a normal viewer with no background in dancing but after I watched all the performances, I had the same feeling and opinion as you. And after I watched your reacts and analyses, I completely agree with all the comments you gave on the performances, and also the critical reactions to the judge's comment. Like what?? Of course, they have power to give scores, but their explanation on how they gave scores wasn't persuasive to me at all. Urggghhh.
P/s: no hate to any group, I just don't agree with the judge and some viewers. The girl are all hard-working dancers and they definitely put their heart and soul into the performances. Love them all!
Once thank you for reacting to SWFVN and also saying out my thoughts as well. =)))) Even Vietnamese audience is furious at the judges decision. By the way for the private voting from audience, Madison only hosted one in Ho Chi Minh City and only picked randomly 300 people. I just feel sorry for Oops because their main fanbase is located in Hanoi (very far from HCM city). Just disappointed in why Madison only made this round private voting and only in Ho Chi Minh city.
=)))) so funny to watch your facial expressions during judges feedback
SS Warriorz is the only group from the South, the rest are all from the North, but before joining the show, Oops and Hanoixgirl's recognition was better than So Fire and FED. Even if there were a vote in Hanoi, Oops's result would at most only reach 4th place in the audience vote.
@@kirawaston3544 yeah I do think so but Oops fanbase in Hanoi is still much larger than in the South :))
Hey remember FED from North too. Most of their fan also from North. I think when you see the video on big screen like movie theater the vibe will be much different from on TV
Balienzz said "The first time my mother turned on the TV to watch me dance" was very touching. In Vietnam, there are still many people who think that dancing is just a hobby and not suitable for making a living or at best it is only a part-time job. There are very few families who support their children becoming dancers or art-related jobs.
@@nguyenngocphuonguyenqn12b97 I know it may be surprising but MANY families in america also feel this way. My parents were like that for the longest time …. Really resonated with her and I’m so happy they were able to bring the joy and art of dance to the masses!
My reaction to the 2 judges in this episode 😱😵
I mean you saw how I felt 😂😂
my best guess top 3 would be FED, SoFire and HxnG , based on how swf series loves drama so much.
Those are pretty good guesses!
I dont hate OOPS or anything like that but if the final line up is FED, SF and OOPS, then we can immediately call for investigation on cheating like they did with Mnet’s Produce series in Korea 🤣🤣🤣
jess is so ready to throw hand with the vietnamese judge
Jess, if you have the means and times, pls come to Vietnam and dance, dancers there would heartfully welcome you and gladly dance with you, together and create art.
Thank you so much for reacting and giving us many great feedbacks/knowledge in the world of professional/annual of street battle scenery in the US.
As a Vietnamese I have known dancers in VN just need more chances to showcase more cause we love music and any arts that revolves around it, and of course the growth to this still considered a "niche" career. The dancing community has been lowkey but steadily bulding up an environment that is free and comfortable for anyone that wants to join, so if you can, pls come and experience it. And yeah as frustrated as how the show format is, they did bring attention to VN, so can't blame them too much. IRL HNxG and FED have real beef, but definitely they're still respectfull toward one another, not such childish portrait on a TV show.
I really enjoy to hear your opinion. Its definitely what I expect the audience of the show should know. Im glad to see you react Street dance Vietnam. Your voice represent for the streetdancer to the other. Hope you read my comment.
@@dauhu178 Thank you for watching alongside me ♥️ means a lot!
I believe Knucks is dating a dance from Coco butter or cocoa butter?? something like that.
It's Rihey.
He is rihey long time bf .
I KNEW it was someone who’s name started with an R 😂😂 BLESS IT
1:01:43 I believe, the first season of Korean swf did have one-take shots for this mission!
Gotcha! Thank you!
hey, i was in the audience at the studio and i really admit that the judges really didn’t have any criteria 🙂 1 group just finished performing then came their speech (the judges) then came the scoring, everything happened so fast and probably less than 5 minutes left which made me really think about whether there was any consideration when giving the scores.
Thank you so much for bringing some clarity with it all. Means a lot! I hope you had a great time in the audience!
Jess, those words were very nice, learning with you is truly a learning experience where there is not only respect and tolerance, but also love for the profession😊💯
By the way, could you make a video where the Megan Crew is better explained, where can you define what it is?🤔
@@lispena2913 means a lot that you are along for the ride with me! I have loved watching this show and I’m excited to continue watching and enjoying! I don’t know if I would be able to be as helpful with your question, but I don’t mind trying to figure it out!
When two female judges starts giving justification for their scores or review, i am always like 🤨 🫤🙄😬🫨
@@sungrg8766 I wish I didn’t also feel that way but here we are 😂😂
AND YESSSSSS, I ALSO THOUGHT OF the INTERFERENCE of the production house, probably they knew the results of fan's voting so they needed to have some influence in judges' score =)))
Yes so fire was not hip hop it was tik tok trends n SS Warriors is Hip hop n i wish they could have stayed. Team F.E.D
54:36 i totally feel you :))))) 😂😂
8:04 this part of u saying is savage 🤣🤣🤣
@@linhhavukhanh5559 😂 I bet he meant part of his feelings were because of the feature’s quality of movement as well as her time on stage, but he didn’t mention that side and I was already frustrated at the other judges comments 😂😂 bless it alllll
@@jess_holyfield yeah I thought so too 🤣 but i wasn’t aware of the thing you said about MANNEQUEEN megacrew LOL
It was so hilarious that my stomach hurts =)))
I didn’t intend to share my thought but I felt so frustrated watching the 2 mega crew episodes that i have to say it out loud (so sorry for my babbles)
1. In short, i want to scream to the face of the show that
- No criteria, judging on personal feeling
- Everything is edited by producers
- This is a show, definitely scripted
- Judging dance groups should just be about factors that relate to dance
* My rank:
1. FED (overall is good i just thing they should choose another song)
2. SSW (great vibe, they made me feel that they moved interestingly and i want to be able to move like them)
3. Other group are at equal position:
OOPS (video shooting is beautiful and music is catchy)
HNXG (great idea but transition is too quick and no time to breathe)
SF (catchy music, nothing stay in my head)
2. These are things that feel ridiculous to me:
- praised SSW for showing their color and when FED do what they do best = showing their color, FED receive complaints about playing safe 😒
- Said SSW adding dancing techniques is good but then said too many techniques = predictable :)))
- Praised OOPS and SF for having many interesting formations but said that FED was too busy making formations and didnt say much about HNXG’s formation
- OOPS receive many compliments about beautiful and effective filming angle and background etc,. Although all groups got to be in charge on set but they didn’t make the final video and didn’t even allowed to watch it before hand. (And to be honest, we only got to see what the producer wanted to show us so they can make bad video from NG sources)
- The part HW talked about FED’s concept not clearly show, she said tht only bc she understands the VNese lyrics so she persume the concept is about women deciding their own fate. I think FED used the song just bc of its popularity, as a strategy popular song = more view more like. And for the message, female dance having strong dance moves = confident, powerful, fierce women. Is that too hard to understand? And what part in OOPS’s dance moves show Vietnam or is it bc of the music, what part in SF’s dance moves show firefighters or is it bc of the uniform?
- Complaint FED about playing safe but said that other group is doing good showing their color :)))) I mean you want FED to break dancing or doing ballet or what to be consider not playing safe =)))))
I think the result should have been:
FED & OOPS go to final
HNXG & SF battle for final position
Would greatly appreciate if anyone could kindly provide more context on the Vitden situation. I haven't been following SWF vietnam, but I enjoy these clips, so it was a bit hard to follow what was going on with mentions of madison media group(?) etc
Basically Vitden is the leader and founder of the original HanoiXgirl (the one taking part in the show is only a part of that crew), of which Chec and Co of FED used to be members. There has been lots of tension between these two crews since Chec and Co left HanoiXgirl and founded their own crew, FED. In the first episode, HNXG was said to be too dependent on Vitden and heavily influenced by his style. So in the practice scene for the Mega Crew mission, these was one moment when Vitden appeared in the studio, constantly commented and directly gave instructions for the dancers on behalf of Env, who is supposed to take the lead. Even one staff of the show had to come and reminded the girls to work on the performance by themselves instead of Vitden, just like the other 4 crews were trying. Because of that, they got lots of criticism from the audiences for depending too much on their leader, and many people sarcastically said that Vitden is a secret member of the team in the show who helped them a lot in previous challenges.
That's what's happened. Personally I don't know the truth behind the scene as it was only a 2-minute scene in the episode.
@@longsdiary Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that in detail. It definitely provides the context I was trying to understand
I can see that from your statement you did not really like HNXG they deliver.. they perform they devoured… tbh FED did not deliver at all didn’t deserve the 1st place … and trust me those waackings those afros those voguing aren’t simple techniques to Do a DIP perfectly you need to have a stable technique and to do afro flawlessly you need to work effortlessly too will support HNXG all the way… they’re the Jam Republic of Vietnam
@@IsaacLalremruata hey there! Thank you for taking the time to watch and provide feedback. Regarding my analysis, I come from a HHI background of judging where we measure all of the things you mentioned. I agree certain skills they provide have a difficulty based on the demand of authenticity within the culture, but when I say average or below average, I speak on the phrasing of the choreography where they don’t deviate from the basic fundamental within either musicality, dynamics, complexity, etc. I apologize if my feedback was deemed bias where that is not my intention but please remember that I am human and will continue to grow as such. I believe they should have scored in the upper percentile and I also would like to note that I didn’t technically rank any of the crews in any particular order due to the sheer subjectiveness of the show and how it was scored. If you haven’t already done so, I would love it if you took the time to watch my analysis of their actual mega crew set (I’m not sure if you have since this is the episode so I don’t know! ) and hear my feedback there. Looking forward to seeing them in the next episode!