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- My first step into the world of outlaw motorcycle clubs.
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As an old 1%er with 47 yrs in. I cannot stress enough to anyone the importance of spending a lot of time in the Hang Around phase! Eventually members will begin to “lean” on you to “step up” into Prospect. DO THIS AT YOUR OWN WILL AND PACE! Again, this is so so important. The Hang Around spot really has the best seat in the house in my opinion. You get to hang out, party, ride and generally be able to reap so many benefits without the grunt work of Prospect and the BS an actual member has to to put up with. As a Hang Around, you can come when you want and LEAVE when you want! Many times, if you are a long time Hang Around and prove n and trusted, your Prospect time is much easier. Just by de facto easier, since everybody already knows you and knows your capabilities. This of course, is not a given or automatic! But one of the best advices is take a lot of time in Hang Around and do not fall to pressure. The lure and temptation to get that patch is immense and can confuse you! You will wanna start to get the process underway. Don’t do it! Wait until YOU really really know it’s for you!
The best advice there is
Take this mans advice to heart, let it sink in and ferment.Well Spoken!
Goes for the hoods too ! Great advice ese !
Truth. A local mc to my old home had me as a supporter. Still felt like family. Didn't pursue more because I knew I was relocating. #sylGJ
Eagerness is weakness. Then, you’re screwed.
In the summer of 2004, I was camping at the KOA in Pomona. My family was at the fair, I was out riding. It was a hot August night in So Cal and as I came back to Pomona, there was a stranded biker near the fairgrounds, I pulled over to see if he needed help (I live in Montana, we don't leave anyone on the side of the road, Big Foot could eat them). His bike just quit, and I ended up towing him home, He lived in Pomona and it was the first time I've towed another motorcycle. And I've been riding since 1962, I was 12. Anyway, he saw I was wearing a Firefighters Club Cut and my plates are Montana. After I dropped him off, He gave me a green Vagos Courtesy Card, which I still have, and told me if I needed anything to call him. His name was J.R. we became friends and always invited me to ride with him when I was in California. The last time I saw J.R. was at the Roadhouse in Etiwanda. Several years ago, I ran into a Vago who said J.R. died, sorry to hear that, I'm glad I was able to help him out, Brian in Hungry Horse Montana
It’s wild the opportunities we have to connect with others when we do the right thing. Sorry to hear of his passing.
Your a good dude Brian. I live 5 minutes from pomona. I know alot of the sgv vagus. Good dudes if u show them the respect. U give what you get.
Great story,thank you brother
If you were his friend? Why are you asking someone else about your friend. You should already know.
Fellow punk rocker...drawn to the motorcycle scene, thanks for sharing man
Starting from 17:20: That's some GREAT advice. Looking back, I wish I had done more hanging around when I first got in touch with the motorcycle club world. ML&R from Germany.
You are guaranteed jail time just for wearing that vest over there 😂
Wow! Great content, you're good! Thank you for sharing your experiences...this format & tone makes it all the better too.
Thank you so much homie. I appreciate the support and kind words
This is THE BEST testimony I've ever heard if anyone ever wanted or was considering being a part of a club. What you go through. Commitment thoughts etc. I really enjoyed listening to you. Good luck and blessings on your life's journey
Thank you very much
When I prospected with the Vagos, I kept asking myself: Is this really it? Just riding from one bar to another? What's the point? A lot of that had to do with the chapter I was prospecting, which was a mistake. A lot also had to do with the fact we were in Las Vegas, which has two good riding areas and a whole lot of bars in between. A hang-around gets pretty much all the access without any of the hassle.
@@mikeheuer1276 yeah I get it bro. I put down my patch a long time ago. I enjoy riding on my own terms and schedules. The thing is I really don’t see the brotherhood like it’s proclaimed. Maybe I’m not seeing it
@@Impopeye I couldn't agree more. And like Mooch said in the video, they need to be people you would want to hang out with outside of the club. I met a lot of people I never would want to call "brother."
@@Impopeye No. You are 100 percent correct. It mostly is fiction.
Wise words, great presentation. Respect from the UK 🇬🇧
New subscriber from Canada, old, retired biker from back in the 80s. I am looking forward to hearing more on your story.
My cousin Doug Mackey was a long time member of the Vagos. He passed away several years ago and quite a few of his brothers from the Vagos showed up for the memorial service at a church. Even though I was completely an outsider I was very appreciative of the love they showed to my cousin. Changed my views of the club lifestyle . Much love to the Vagos
LVDV. Live Vago Die Vago. Respect for the 22
my brother is also vago mc mexico He also passed away I miss him so much
@@2324ariel I’m sorry to hear that as we all know it’s not easy to lose a loved one. Since the memorial service several years ago now whenever I see a Vago I say hello to them and shake their hand. I have never had a negative response or encounter. I’m 6 foot 2 in shape and have a high and tight haircut. Not once as any of the members given me an attitude because of the way I look actually just the opposite. The media portrays all of the MC Clubs in a negative light to control the narrative. I now call bullshit on them. Do a story on the day to day life of the guys in theses MC Clubs and you will come away with a different viewpoint for sure. Hey, God Bless you sir, be safe and healthy.
Sorry for your loss
I'm a veteran and worked with veterans for more than 20 years. It does not surprise me that so many MCs started by WWII veterans. The power of brotherhood is a very real thing men need.
great video, great story and great advice , one of my issues is time management and you touched on this validating my thoughts on time management (family, work, club) I sincerely appericate the time you spent on this clip .
Thank you homie
Solid content! Straight talk for a change on TH-cam. Former patch holder here. One Club the entire time, but there’s a lot in common with the impulse stuff. Subscribed. GT
Thank you for subscribing
All the best from Australia mate luved the info you shared
Once again, great Show Mooch!
Finally, we opened in Oregon.
man I got mad respect for you.
What’s up Mooch! Followed you on IG for a while and just recently found your YT channel so now I’m binge watching your episodes. I hope you keep putting out new content, you seem like a very natural interviewer, developing a good rapport with the guest quickly, asking interesting questions etc. Your interview with Peewee was great. I’d love to see some stuff about some of the lesser known clubs of the 60’s and 70’s in NY and San Fran.
Good stories bro, jus found u today, look forward to more episodes...ain't nothing like being patched, I'm ridin in Arizona....
Mad Dog
Thank you for your life story very interesting, I ride but don’t belong to any clubs I just love motorcycles and the culture,ride safe .
Always keepin it real..thanks for the advice bro.
Grew up in WA, got to meet a few guys in the GJMC, Outsiders, Brother Speed, and Free Souls in my travels throughout the PACNW - they were all pretty good people.
Great clubs. Very well respected
Great episode homie , thanks for keeping it real . Much L/R
Grew up around the Vagos in southern California and the Straight Satan's my order brother joining the Vagos Orange county CA. But I have a great respect for the Bikeing World and all the clubs
I moved to Portland in 2005 from the east coast and lived off Alberta street. I hung out at the know after work and drank 1 buck tall boys. I saved enough money to buy a used bike from Eastside Motorcycle, and started to meet people who were serious about riding. I started hanging out at a clubhouse in my neighborhood and was immediately accepted. I’m a veteran and I was not finding that connection in the punk and hardcore scene in Portland. But in the club scene all I had to do was shake a man’s hand and introduce myself. I met you at a big party one time, and we talked about tattoos and music. I live back on the east coast now, and I miss Portland when it was a different place. I still ride motorcycles and go to hardcore shows. I really enjoyed this video and I am happy that someone made the connection with punk/hardcore/Oi! and riding bikes.
Thank you so much for reaching out and for taking the time to check out the channel. Portland was a lot of fun back in the old days. Seems like it’s changed a lot since then. I left there just over 5 years ago
Respect always 💯 from across the pond in Dublin IRELAND 🇮🇪 ☘️🍀,new sub,
Much respect Mooch! Can’t wait till the book drops 💯
Thanks for providing this solid content and sharing your story. Great video can't wait for the next one!
Thank you very much
Are you still a white supremacy supporter?
@@samcabasa6609 still? Never have been.
@@samcabasa6609 You must have heard some misinformation or just be dumb, he even said in his videos he was with the punk scene.....that doesn't mean he a white supremacist, neither does being apart of a 1% motorcycle club. Please educate yourself and think before you speak.
Thank you for sharing this information bro. . Appreciate it. Very cool 😎....
💯💚💯💚💯💚💯💚💯💚💯
In the 80s my Ole man was a Vago when we in Yuma and Phoenix. I loved every one of them...
This is my first video from you and the thing I like the best is, you don’t have a lot of “quiet time” in them, like you’re trying to figure out what to say next. I like that. Me…In the early 70s, I was in the dominant club in town for a couple of years and only dropped out because my engine blew up and I didn’t have the money to fix it, especially with our 30 day down period. No one in the club offered to help get my bike up, with the understanding I’d pay them back. There’s more to the story but I’ll stop here. Oh…I still ride today and I’ll be 74 this year but I’m just a bike rider now. Subscribed.
Thank you for the kind words and that’s awesome that you’re still riding.
Wish I could find something that felt right in North East WY. I will be looking for your book. Keep the shiny side up and rubber side down brother. 👊
Great post! Keep them coming
ill keep an eye out for your book homie, we only met a few times in Portland, but you were always a super cool dude. hope you're well homie.
Thank you very much and thank you for staying in touch
I agree about taking your time. I use to wanna rush everything. Now I KINDA do my own thing, I've partied with all kinda groups. I'm in no rush now. If I never find my perfect fit then I don't find it. I just found this channel and I hit the subscribe button.
You do realize that government could be reading these comments
@@Sksk27547 I'm sure they are. Doesn't matter all I said was take the time and I like to party
@@jonray3489 okay man. It's your time in jail, not mine.
@@Sksk27547 I'm just cautious what I said that has me going to jail
Congratulations brother
Another great watch!
Like the channel and the stories man!
Awesome video man keep up the good work
you have 17k views on this MWM alone. thats very impressive man. keep working hard its all paying off 💯
I sincerely appreciate all of the incredible people who view and support the channel. It’s been amazing
aloha mooch. thanks for the work you put in on your episodes. I like listening to you because I have a younger brother but I want to get into riding with me. so I like hearing stories about you and your brother. That's what it's all about. so thanks again. be safe. aloha
Hopefully one day I can get my brother on some episodes with me. Thank you for the kind words and supporting the channel
Intresting man, sounded like you were confident during the process so cudois
Man, good storytelling homie! 👏🏽
i didnt see the end of the story coming. Dope episode!
Awesome podcast great to meet you in Tennessee
signed up cant wait to hear more
New subscriber...enjoying so far. I grew up surrounded by Vagos..( my uncle Puro was the founder and original President of the Vagos MC in Berdoo. Best of luck with your channel. 💚✌🏽
That’s awesome history, that’s bad ass
Did the Vagos have any problems with the HA being that both clubs originated in Berdoo Richard?
@@alextijerina1284 I don't believe so originally....Vagos flew a So Cal bottom rocker at first....I think any problems started later as the clubs started to expand. The Vagos and the Hells Angels clubhouses were literally about 1 1/2 -2 Miles apart.
@@richierich4538 Thank you
I got my patch that day at puro funeral at the house. Ran down to the indoor swap meet to get it put on. Good old times
Great video, thanks for sharing 👍
We wish him well ❤️🩹
Nicotine replacement patch 😊
Hey Mooch ,Ron here down NZ , just a quick gday ,hope you and your friends n fam are all gd over there bro
Good story thanks for sharing IL be getting a copy of your book for sure signed if possible kepp up the good work great video
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Club-jumping really isn't rare. I have met a lot of people who have done it and kind of did it myself as a hang-around with a couple of clubs. It's really amazing how fast many of the clubs change membership. I can say I never saw a Mongols' prospect be disrespected by Mongols patchholders. That really goes a long way toward making someone want to stick around and be part of the club. My experience as a Vagos prospect was far from that, mostly due to the chapter I mistakenly prospected. I am pretty sure that chapter no longer exists, but I did learn a valuable lesson: It's not the club, it's the chapter. You might like the club, but individual chapters vary greatly. Some are much better than others. Most of the people I met that I liked were other hang-arounds and prospects, but virtually all of them walked away for pretty much the same reason I did. Odds are we know one or two of the same people from the Green Nation, although you would know them better than I do.
Very intriguing.
Cool video bro, I’m glad I came across your channel 🤙🏼
My uncle’s sister in law was married or just lived with a Vago in the early 70s and maybe even in the 60s. He lived in a very rural town near the edge of L.A. County back then later called Rowland Heights. Hells Angels shot him off his bike on Carbon Canyon Rd. in the early 70s. My uncle still remembers the chants Vagos said at the funeral. A very different era back then.
Small world. When i was going to Whittier college I lived in Rowland Heights
Red eye is a great dude!! Solid!!!
Cool story. I used to live in Reno.
My first time watching u bro and about to subscribe! Much love from a Sin City Deciples MC supporter bro 💯
Thank you so much for following
I look forward to reading your book when it comes out. I'm sure you mentioned where you follow updates for it, like in the description or something. I'm going to double check to see i can find it before I ask lol .
*Update* I quickly found the sign up thing for the book in the description which had the link.
I was just about to reply with it lol but you found it quickly. Thank you so much for the support homie
@@MondaysWithMooch I hate when people don't look themselves lol.
In 2006 or so I was managing a bar in San Diego, when a group of Vagos dropped in and partied all night. There were also some guys from a Tijuana chapter as well. No trouble from the actual members, but a hanger on with a squeaky voice white dude talked crap the whole night and was trying to pick fights.
Would this happen to be in Lemon Grove?
Fantastic video!!!
Ty for the knowledge sir.
Put this here since it's most popular. I don't do social media. I have just ordered your book, delivery on Friday £12.52 I think over here. Looking forward to reading it. Scotland.
Great stuff man!!!
The truth be told and been told very well 🕶
I didn't realize the outsiders were that chill maybe I'll stop by their Clubhouse sometime
Solid guys
My pops used to have support vagos shirts,much luv from Ontario Ie woodsta
Great video man !
Awesome video for those looking to join
Looking forward to that book
Thank you
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Just got in a bar fight in Missoula, my. And had patched members backs from Idaho ! Never forget this night!
Tried to Subscribe to the channel, It’s kicking me off to Video quality site for San Francisco Oakland. Keep up the good work man enjoy hearing about the motorcycle life.
Make sure and sign up for the mailing list for my book when you get a chance. I’ll have a lot more stories with more detail than on here. Than you for the support. Not sure why it’s not letting you subscribe
Awesome video. ML&R FTW
Found the channel recently and have been going through the old episodes. Good times and great story's dude. Keep killin it.
Thank you so much
cool story sir...thanks..
What a great video I enjoyed this video and your honesty I ride with the bikers for Christ of course that means I'm a Christian but I'm always interested in all the different clubs 1 percenters included so thanks again and I probably will buy your book God bless and take care
Thank you. I actually have a lot of friends in your club. Great group
Have always loved both the mongols and Vagos. Just moved back to San Diego area, really having a hard time just trying to provide for my wife and son, but hoping to get a bike again sometime this year, and would love to start hanging around mongols here around San Diego if there is a chapter.
I was in the Mongols San Diego chapter in 2008 when I lived in Imperial Beach. They have a few chapters in that area. Not sure if the Vagos still do or not. They used to have one in Ocean Side
@@MondaysWithMooch okay thanks man! and I’d love to hook up with some of the mongols around here, if I could figure out the “spots” ya know? Lol I also come from the punk rock/metalcore music scene, used to play and tour back in my early 20’s, so I really feel like I could get some good advice about everything from you. I appreciate your channel and what you do. I’m def wanting to buy the book bro! 😎
Hit me up on Instagram if you have one and please sign up for the mailing list for my book
@@MondaysWithMooch gotcha! I’ll go do the Instagram thing now and sign up for the mailing list. Thanks man for replying 🙏
Bro you got a wife & son, that's the only club you need right there.
I once hit really hard into the side of a Honda Accord at about 65 mph, that broke left... as I was passing it on the left.
Cool channel!! remember you and your brother from reds I was like a 17yr old bus boy at the time lol.
Damn, that was a long time ago! Had a lot of fun out there
Magpie was a Vago? So weird how little we know about people we have known for a long time. :) Great pics!
He was the president of south valley chapter when I was in
@@MondaysWithMooch Funny, how I put together a story that was nothing at all like the real story about Magpie and where he came from. :) Cheers.
I think it is great you're doing this. I think it would be great to hear your old skinhead days stories too.
Love that Outcast Mentality hoodie!
Solid brand and solid homies for sure
@@MondaysWithMooch yo u know Rob & SOSF?
@@eatassonthefirstdate I know a few of them. They came a little after my time. Growing up I was more familiar with the Skinhead scene and then FSU
The one thing to remember is this....Until you are wearing your prospect tag, you won't be obligated to anything but once it goes on your vest.....You're IN.
Mooch dawg 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Hey mooch I enjoy your content, you keep it real, you don't bs people, so much respect for that. My question is if you're a member of a 1%er club and leave on good standing with your brothers do you still have to worry about your enemies or do they leave you be when they find out you left your club?
I didn't realize your from Carson City your local president was my celli! Heard they beat the Rico! Good shit Much love and respect
I remember I seen a recent run flyer of theirs that said, “if you don’t belong, don’t stay long.” It’s comical because they can’t keep good people and the people that make up the club today will not be there in 5 years. They will have moved on to bigger and better things. Doesn’t matter if it’s family life, or another club that’s a better fit. Some of these clubs only care about the “party” and the only way that ends is with a GoFundMe page. You should surround yourself with people who hold you to a higher standard, not people who want to hold you back from reaching your full potential just because they don’t have any ambitions.
“Gofundme page” so sad but true.. Viva Los
So true 100%accurate 👍
Are you saying you think the Vagos are a ‘party’ club?
I think every club is a “party” club to an extent. The thing that separates those who can actually retain quality members and those you can’t, is the ability to notice when it’s time to chill for a bit. What I am saying is that a lot of people are selfish and put their own wants and needs above others and that’s not how it should me. Just because you want to party does not mean it’s healthy for your “brothers”. MANY, not all of them do not realize that you can sober up from paying attention. But they are too selfish having “fun” to see that they are losing their team and enabling a downward spiral that weakens everyone. That’s why that club has a revolving door and all the good guys move onto better things if they are lucky.
If it's not about the "party" then what is it supposed to be about? Not trying to be a smart azz..
Random that this video was suggested to me tonight. I actually met you and your brother a couple times about 11 or 12 years ago, I think. Something like that. My friend Kevin brought me down to a small hole in the wall place in Sellwood. Again, out at Jubitz, I believe. Both times you all were, as you mentioned in this, cordial and nice. At Jubitz you or your brother even remembered my name. Haha it was a good time.
Man we used to go to that spot a lot. It’s been a min since I thought of that place. Thanks for reaching out homie. Hope you’re doing well
@@MondaysWithMooch hope you're doing well, too. That is for doing these videos, it's really interesting and informative. Definitely will pick up the book when it comes out. I think something a lot of people should watch. I mean, meeting you guys changed my whole outlook on MCs, as it was obviously skewed by mainstream coverage.
Hearing about your punk rock/skinhead past now explains how Kevin knew you guys, hah. I was always curious.
it would be real cool if you can come up with reflective patches for night rideing.
Cool video well presented. Sincere
Thank you
Very cool salute to I homie all love from Philly
I’m from the Philly area too. Mooch is a good dude
South Philly, here...Just found this channel today. Im interested in Vagos stories bc they don't have presence here, its obviously Pagans-land
15th and tasker
I was at broad and Wharton for years. I moved just over the bridge in jersey a couple years back and became a Boozefighter. Have a great day 🤙🏻
Great video
Good dude glad I seen your post and I am hoping to check out your memoir
Great content!! What I find amazing is if you get 100 patch holders together in a bar without rags, and all from different clubs, ally and foe, as long as none of the 100 know who flys what I’d bet they would all get along and have a great time! To bad the politics and historical bad blood prevent that.
I couldn’t agree more
Politics ruins everything just look at our country atm
Dude, I remember you and your brother!!! You guys were cool as hell. I was getting in about the same time as you. I was with the Vegas Charter. Good to see you again.
Man we had a lot of fun in Vegas! Hope you’re doing well homie
Due to work and family life I don’t have time to read will there be an audiobook? Rooting for you mooch
That is the plan. Thank you for the support homie
Make time man. Many people have jobs and kids and read.
Really enjoyed the video, I have never even ridden a motorcycle but this was very interesting. Subscribed.
I've been seeing a few Vagos lately here in Georgia which the Outlaws MC are the dominate MC. I was driving each time and just able to ascertain their cuts in the rear view mirror. They were Vagos, but I couldn't make out the bottom rocker.
In 2006 the Vagos attempted to open a Georgia chapter but it was shut down by the dominate club there at the time
@@MondaysWithMooch This afternoon I passed another Vago on the highway in Atworth/Dallas Georgia.
I was wondering where you was at just the other day.
Thank you OG
Riding in Oregon to fkn cold bro,🤣🤣
16:06 sweet bike