【 HoloCure 】 This Can't be FREE!? (it's not, it costs your SOUL) | LIVE

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  • @RFalhar
    @RFalhar ปีที่แล้ว +241

    "Sake? Idols don't drink." Good thing they are not idols. They are comedians.

    • @ignacioperez5479
      @ignacioperez5479 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      hololive is a mix of a circus, a zoo and a comedy stage

    • @samsolitaryroll
      @samsolitaryroll ปีที่แล้ว +46

      ​​@@ignacioperez5479 and a dash of Idol. Just be real, at least when they're singing on stage, they're a real idol

    • @mrmxypltk
      @mrmxypltk ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And multiple of the talents actually have their own Sake/Wine! Even Award Winning ones!

    • @DarkarThanBlack
      @DarkarThanBlack ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Pekomedian

    • @sugarp1e174
      @sugarp1e174 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The dream is dead and there is no hope. XD

  • @timewizardphil
    @timewizardphil ปีที่แล้ว +146

    13:38 yeah. Not a good relationship is putting it mildly. The day before Genshin Impact launched, two Hololive members, Akai Haato and Kiryuu Coco, came under fire from the Chinese internet for displaying on stream (independently) their TH-cam analytics pages which listed Taiwan as a country. Likely under pressure from investors, Hololive did serve the two a month streaming ban for this, but when it became clear that nothing less than firing Coco (Haato weirdly seemed to ultimately kind of get a pass, even though she did the same thing) would sate the mob, Hololive instead made the decision to pull out of the Chinese market entirely. For context, at the times Hololive actually had a Chinese branch with six members who were all fired as a result, and many of their Japanese members had a significant presence on Bilibili. Coco was however Hololive’s top superchat earner at the time and was immensely popular with English speaking audiences and this happened literally two weeks after Hololive first launched their English branch which was immediately met with massive success beyond their expectations. Coco endured a targeted harassment campaign in the wake of all this, and as a result of both the toll it put on her and the restrictions that had to be put into effect as a result made the decision to graduate from Hololive less than a year later.
    As a more immediate result of the incident, many Chinese game companies retracted permission from Hololive to stream their games (Hololive members only play games they have been expressly permitted to play on stream), including the makers of Muse Dash and Arknignts (even though Hololive had successfully collabed with Arknignts in the past). In the case of Hoyo, Holo EN’s Takanashi Kiara had requested and secured Genshin permissions and I believe even scheduled a stream at or shortly after the game launched, but these permissions were also rescinded and Hololive and Coco’s name were blacklisted within the game.
    So yeah, as a result, Hololive fans-at least those of us who have been around long enough-may be some of the least enthusiastic people about Hoyo within the greater anime subculture

    • @graycap111b5
      @graycap111b5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Can't really blame Hoyo as they are still subservient to the CCP. I dunno if any mainland Chinese dev is brave enough to cut ties with the CCP (or if it's even possible without repercussions). Also, saying Cover fired the HoloCN girls is jumping the gun. Sure, some of them could have been fired for colluding with the hostile Chinese in the directed attacks to Haato and Coco, but not all of them were involved as far as we know. Officially, they were all allowed to leave (with their Hololive identities and assets) for their safety.

    • @TheMattVis
      @TheMattVis ปีที่แล้ว +43

      ​@@graycap111b5Yup, funnily enough, some biggest Genshin content creator also deep in rabbit hole.
      Some of them actually played hololive music in the background while playing Genshin.
      And I think Hoyo fine with it, if we want to be honest, most of them probably just got pressure from the government themselves.
      Sure there some CN that hated hololive after the incident, but not all of them, especially the aforementioned Taiwan.
      Taiwan even have some official collabs cafe with Hololive and met with positive review.
      Kinda ironic that Mainland CN want to ban HL cause "Taiwan incident", yet Taiwan that supposedly part of their country doing collab cafe, and mainland CN does not do anything about it.

    • @ShiningLight
      @ShiningLight ปีที่แล้ว +23

      as a Genshin lover and Hololive enjoyer I can say that doesn't bother me, tho I wished things were different so we could see some of them playing it, some still do. Sana streamed Genshin on her second account in the past for example, and some of the girls sometimes reference it, so it's just a politics thing interfering.

    • @timewizardphil
      @timewizardphil ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@graycap111b5 I mean, realistically, the branch was shut down. So while yes, they were allowed to have graduations and it wasn’t like a sudden termination like it was with Rushia, it couldn’t really be said they chose to leave the company; there pretty clearly wasn’t an option where they stayed. Also, no one was allowed to keep their assets or identities, though there was if I recall some confusion about that at first.

    • @sya2711
      @sya2711 ปีที่แล้ว

      lets face it, it was just cancel culture trying to take down the big numbers doing talent. they didnt care much about haato, cause she wasnt doing nearly as big numbers as coco back then. sad it came to that. they should have pulled out of china right away and block every one of those accounts.

  • @casteanpreswyn7528
    @casteanpreswyn7528 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Fun fact, while Kronii's artist is an fgo artist, so is Ina's. And Ina and Sana both have art in fgo.

    • @MintJammer
      @MintJammer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Inas pretty much Lady Venera from their unfortunately awkward Zvedza Plot show mixed with Ui.
      Since they love deep sea life meets high society aesthetics.
      And kroniis just Nero but tall.

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @SenpaiSamaKun I mean, Ina is literally an amalgamation of Kuroboshi's first two characters from FGO, Abby, and Hokusai.
      Like, I wouldn't be surprised if Kuroboshi did do that shit on purpose.

    • @levisamom5069
      @levisamom5069 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kronii is basically blue Nero... which is ironic that Nero herself is sometimes called red saber

    • @BarlioneManobolge
      @BarlioneManobolge 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also if you know Ina's non hololive identity, she has drawn CE art for FGO

  • @justinyu5892
    @justinyu5892 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The title checks out, this game doesn't hurt or burdens your wallet but will take your soul and push it down a rabbit hole

  • @CSLucasEpic
    @CSLucasEpic ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Its funny about the Sake, because Lamy, a Hololive talent, not only has a brand of Sake that she helped design, but said sake won bronze award in an international competition.

  • @CainIgneous
    @CainIgneous ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One of the hololive members, yukihana lamy drinks so much sake its surprising she doesnt have alcohol poisoning at this point, the lass also drinks about 2 liters or so of water daily.

  • @GugureSux
    @GugureSux ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Lol at the guy calling HC "VS lite".
    It's soooo much bigger, and honestly way more fun at this point. Also totally free.

    • @TheNyanCave
      @TheNyanCave  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think both games are really cool! I definitely lean towards HoloCure myself but I could understand why someone might prefer VS

  • @nathanperquin9910
    @nathanperquin9910 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    just for the record, kronii's artist isn't an fgo artist but the artist for Fate/extra. and sicne those characters also appear in FGO. she is an fgo artist by extension

  • @ThePeteriarchy
    @ThePeteriarchy ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm glad to see y'all doing vtuber fan games now. I dunno how you folks are with fighting games, but I do hope you give Idol Showdown a shot as well. Fanmade 2D 1v1 fighter with a lotta variety in movesets, accessible controls, and it's also free, also on Steam, and has a pretty good roster of the different girls from Hololive JP. Voiced by 'em, too. Either snippets from streams or provided by the girls themselves when they heard they were in the game. These fan projects, man. They're wild.

  • @Abattoir23
    @Abattoir23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here for Holocure reaction, but genuinely enjoyed watching you play. Holocure is usually overwhelming for new players, even with chat's help. It was impressive how quickly you caught on to mechanics while still reading lore bits.

    • @TheNyanCave
      @TheNyanCave  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I've been itching to play it again soon, so hopefully we'll stream it in the near future!

  • @scruffyryan
    @scruffyryan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the weapons combine with other weapons.....and the combi weapons combine with SOME items.

  • @ryokophreak
    @ryokophreak ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This showed up on my timeline. Decided to sub. Looks like a fun place.
    Btw, your comment about FF14. Yes, the lead dev does indeed play FF14. He's a raider. lol. Admits the AOE's are inspired from it.

  • @guillermogerrycabrera7625
    @guillermogerrycabrera7625 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad that non-hololive fan people are having fun playing holocure !! I guess this goes to the devs that made a great game!
    Very good runs! Thanks for this stream !👏
    8:21 ina stage1
    11:47 doing puns while playing as ina is very fitting lmao. Ina is often making puns/dad jokes and the term 'inaff' is from ina+enough saying enough with the puns lmao
    26:25 that one proc of headphone is lifesaver
    32:01 collab !
    47:26 2nd collab !
    58:41 gacha !
    1:00:50 kronii stage2
    1:04:43
    1:10:52
    1:17:30 the silver/golden head guy cant hurt you, drops coins when hit and silver drops stamps and golden drops holozon.
    1:40:40 almost! The golden anvil also appeared for the collab... Rip.
    1:41:18 holohouse
    1:47:16 mumei stage1 endless
    2:07:14 collab !
    2:15:26 2nd collab !
    2:25:04 halu lvl5 Activated
    2:26:01 super collab !!
    2:28:50 this is one of the stamps set for coinfarming! Very nice.
    2:33:31 collab !
    2:46:04 collab !
    2:53:42 rip... but lots of coins!
    2:58:03 Gacha time !!!
    Below some tips, feel free to ignore the below long comment (ive been watching other channels trying this game out, so ill just copy paste my comment)
    A good rule of thumb in playing a character is focusing first in their respective main weapons and their three unique skills and maxing them out.
    Its where they show their playstyle. Some focused on healing, some on critical, or being durable/dodging.
    Weapons/items/skills can sometimes have a blinking yellow '+' on the lower right of the box, press right directional key/button to scroll and see more. px means pixels. Some skills will have a visual indicator of its effects by a circle around your character.
    Collabs can be done by two weapons that are lvl7. Its from golden anvils.
    Golden anvils will appear if you possess two compatible weapons that are lvl7.
    Weapons can be leveled up in lvlups and normal anvils. Normal anvils can be left on the floor if want to be used later, they wont despawn.
    Leveling up weapons in anvils are free on 1-7.
    7 and higher cost holocoins and can fail.
    Weapons max out at 7. Some Items max at 3-5. Skills max at 3.
    Specials of each character are very different and can serve as being a panic button.
    You can get duplicates on gacha and it will increase the stats of the respective character by 1% and get 1 tear.
    The tears can be interpreted as some kind of pity system.
    Use up the tears to choose the character/character outfit you want and get it instantly.
    if Stamps & Weapon Enhancements Unlocked-
    The stamps can be used to add various upgrades your main weapon only. You can swap them out or just drop on floor, they wont despawn. Some unwanted stamps can be used for upgrading equipped stamps or sold for holocoins.
    Weapons will randomly have various enhancements in them and the weapon name will be colored Blue. If used on a collab, the resulting collab will inherit the enhancement of the used weapons(or none if the weapons dont have any enhancement.) Normal Anvils can be used to insert random enhancement into a weapon or change the existing enhancement.

  • @LckD008
    @LckD008 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imo the best main weapon is Baelz's dice. Her character skills really make it powerful.

  • @severussnape2917
    @severussnape2917 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just your soul! How cheap!

  • @That_Squatch
    @That_Squatch 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everytime i see someone play these games and every single time they never try to move away from an area when theres an opening to escape the encirclement if he had just kept going up at the end of endless he might have survived instead he walked back down into the encirclement and tried to run through the bottom instead of the clearing at the top

  • @lo_op
    @lo_op ปีที่แล้ว +11

    37:46 Gavis Bettel

  • @lowecypher8761
    @lowecypher8761 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dunno if the dev did it intentionally or not, but it was only now that I find the subtle uncanny resemblance the Takodachis had with pacman ghost.
    Ina's skill only serving to seal the deal even more. Cheeky Kaiyu, very subtle.

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Kay Yu did not design the Takodachis, though he did design the skill and how they look when under the effect of AO. Ina actually made the initial design.

    • @darwin0922
      @darwin0922 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Takodachi is Ina's design and it's based on a real type of octupus called Dumbo Octupus.

  • @Rikunda13
    @Rikunda13 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Miss Nyanny.

    • @The_name_of_me
      @The_name_of_me ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something happen?

    • @Sem-ifinalist
      @Sem-ifinalist ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@The_name_of_me nyanny is just gonna be less common in streams to work on clips and donation cards.

  • @NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache
    @NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you enjoyed HoloCure man!

  • @cathsaigh2197
    @cathsaigh2197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:10:45 The Special wasn't up yet, it came available right after you died.

    • @TheNyanCave
      @TheNyanCave  ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel a bit better now. Thank you!

  • @ignacioperez5479
    @ignacioperez5479 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    wrong. it will also cost your youtube feed

    • @jemm113
      @jemm113 ปีที่แล้ว

      …That’s a cost? 😂
      I thought that was just a free bonus I got for rolling 10 gachas!

  • @sya2711
    @sya2711 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    im confused how you know some of their names. is it prehaps cause you play or played azur lane?

    • @CyberSaiyan13
      @CyberSaiyan13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's a lot of Vtuber fans in live chats so he's aware from seeing chat mention them occasionally

    • @Abattoir23
      @Abattoir23 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CyberSaiyan13
      I was thinking maybe he'd played before. He caught on so fast and seemed to read into the potential of things right away.
      But I can see he's a sharp dude. Even using Kronii's ult to freeze the boss on magma pools. Very perceptive.

  • @Zurqoxn
    @Zurqoxn ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Is it strange that I watched 3 hours of this, but I still have no idea who any of these characters are? All I can figure out is that they represent Japanese TH-camrs. But what do they actually do? Are they singers? Actors? Models? Gamers? Social media "influencers"? And they all have agents who work for the same company. Why does that matter? Who gives a crap what agency represents a TH-camr?

    • @blockcolder
      @blockcolder ปีที่แล้ว +19

      They're streamers/entertainers. The character names that we see here (e.g. Gura, Mori, Ina, etc) are their public-facing names (like The Rock is to Dwayne Johnson). Just like IRL, entertainers can either be independent (unaffiliated with an agency, as our boys Clay and Nyanny are) or with a group/talent agency. Hololive is one of the bigger agencies that exist (other examples are Nijisanji and Vshojo) and as the sheer number of silhouettes on the title screen indicates, Hololive manage A LOT of personalities. Hope that answers your question.

    • @AwesomeSihv
      @AwesomeSihv ปีที่แล้ว +25

      All characters represented here are vTubers, essentially youtubers using digital models (some 2D, some 3D, all stylistically anime). They were originally meant to be Idols (a primarily Japanese concept of an actor/model/singer hybrid), but each subgroup carved out a unique niche that has broadened the scope significantly. At this point, they’ve done everything from handcam cooking to video game streaming to movie watchalongs to karaoke, so basically anything goes.
      As for why people care about the company? Hololive is a bit of a unique case. People started caring because the fact that all these talents being in the same company made collabs a lot easier and frequent compared to solo talents. Then Hololive got a rep for selecting really good talent in the sphere, with each new streamer being as or more successful than the last. Furthermore, Hololive releases animated comedy sketches involving their talents, increasing brand recognition. Think of the company as something akin to Marvel’s MCU.
      And then things started getting weird when non-streaming company employees started gaining fan followings. The blue haired lady in the shop is A-chan, a manager for the talents, who now has her own occasional solo streams. The weird face blobs you sometimes fight in holocure are based on Yagoo (a fan name for Hololive’s CEO) who’s chad personality has garnered a fan cult larger than some of his talents. Several of the back-end managers have cult followings and fan arts.
      And top all of this off with the company’s tendency to have really favorable community interactions. Fan animators get contracted to animate MVs. Game makers (like the Holocure dev) get publicly praised by Hololive. Clipper channels get retweeted by official accounts, etc.
      It all combines into its own weird little subculture, affectionately referred to as the rabbit-hole. There’s a lot of history and in jokes that are hard to explain in a single comment though, but that’s the basics.

    • @DanielKi199
      @DanielKi199 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      All the above. The main company/agency that manages the talent is Cover Corp and the group of talents is called Hololive. They employ around 80 Vtubers IIRC, and all of them have various skills, quirks, talents, etc and stream for an audience (most of them regularly hitting 5-10k concurrent viewers on average, even up to 150k concurrent viewers for big events).
      Since the official theme of the company is an “idol” one, the talents are expected to sing and dance during various concerts and festivals (there have been 4 in this year alone so far). Almost all of them release music videos and the such regularly. Currently, there are three branches: Japan (the main one), English, and Indonesia.
      They’re a fairly huge company, expected to have around 150 million USD in revenue this year alone. They also have one of the most advanced 3D Mocap studios in Japan, which is worth billions.

    • @Zurqoxn
      @Zurqoxn ปีที่แล้ว +8

      So it's kind of like Gorillaz, where the animated characters are their public personas, and nobody knows their real names or appearances?

    • @AwesomeSihv
      @AwesomeSihv ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Zurqoxn No one is supposed to know their real appearance/name, but some of them are known. Several had previous IDs and a few still streams under their old ones on occasion. How open about they are varies by talent.

  • @Virjunior01
    @Virjunior01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only played three of these, and this is my third.
    I'll never understand why or how people panic. Just _pay attention._
    Also, Korone is tank as hell, and Bae (Hakos Baelz) has crit that is absolutely insane. Real easy to use the latter to get orange, then red, then purple crits.

  • @sergiotarlit0371
    @sergiotarlit0371 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When's the mobile version? Or they're not making it?

    • @effortlessfury
      @effortlessfury ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No mobile version planned

    • @jetherarroz1118
      @jetherarroz1118 ปีที่แล้ว

      This game is already at 82 GB for pc with that kind of graphics imagine putting it on mobile hahahahha

    • @effortlessfury
      @effortlessfury ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@jetherarroz1118 uhhhhhh what. The game is no where near that size. HoloCure is less than 300 MB

    • @justawanderingoldman7699
      @justawanderingoldman7699 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@effortlessfury Umm... Yeah... Holocure is pretty small in size. So I don't know what this person talked about...

    • @OkamiAmaterasu.
      @OkamiAmaterasu. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jetherarroz1118Where did you get 82gb from lol. This isn’t Destiny.